This election is not about Lowassa, It is about us

[yero]

There is a certain type of fear that has been instilled in you, we call it Lowassaphobia...try thinking positive outside trepidation and believe in something of your own…..

I like that term. LOWASSAPHOBIA. To all those people suffering from Lowassaphobia, I want you to know that there is a cure discovered, eating lemons and drinking lemon juice is an effective treatment against Lowassaphobia.

 

[Kifyatu]

They forget that we have landed in a desert and now we have to choose whether we continue the journey using an old plane with a new pilot or a new plane with a new pilot. Until they are off the radar, that's when they'll know that they have boarded a wrong plane.

These are people like Kifyatu Paulo

I feel your love brother. You keep drawing me into this brawl. Thanks.

I am not partisan. I don't belong to any party. I am not loyal to any particular party (green, blue, purple, etc.). However, I vote my conscious.

Well, let me tell you my life story.

For a very long time I knew CCM was too big, too arrogant, too corrupt, and had become unresponsive to people's needs. (Incidentally, I started as a TANU member, then became a CCM member in 1976 or 1977 - whenever CCM started, and in early 80s I dropped out of CCM.) However, when multi-party politics started in early 90s I still tolerated CCM because I thought the opposition was too young to take power but they fulfilled the role of government watchdog in parliament - and it worked very well.

It was only during the 2010 elections that I saw true CDM potentials. They had very well articulated policies in their manifesto, were very aggressive in parliament in previous years, in other words - A REAL OPPOSITION WITH VISION. I wanted them to win and fulfill my long-time desire to scale down CCM and have true plural politics. I still was non-partisan. However, as you well remember numbers didn't add up and CCM won again. I wasn't disappointed because I knew it was just a matter of 5-years and they would be back in the game.

Lo-and-behold, the sky fell on us. Why?, How?

1. The idea of UKAWA as a political entity was not very well conceived. It was hastily put together for the sake of the Constitution and NOT for political aspirations. This unplanned union is now creating friction. The process of curving up the country and dishing-out constituencies to parties leaves a lot to be desired. You may say that these are UKAWA's internal matters BUT I am worried, if UKAWA is this divided now, what sort of government will they form if/when they win. Instead of leading us, the parties will spend the bulk of their time jockeying for positions. This is not the change I was hoping for. UKAWA is NOT ready for PRIME-TIME. They need to rethink this union and get their act together.
2. You already know my position about Lowasa. However, I had already resigned myself from these concerns, only if we had a strong UKAWA to lead. The problem is "Things are falling apart and the center cannot hold" - Chinua Achebe. This is a recipe for disaster.

Love CDM but I am not sure about this concoction called UKAWA. This, plus my doubts about Lowasa - NOT GOOD, NOT GOOD AT ALL.

cc. Jack Daniel's, kui

 

[yero]

I feel your love brother. You keep drawing me into this brawl. Thanks.
Lo-and-behold, the sky fell on us. Why?, How?

1. The idea of UKAWA as a political entity was not very well conceived. It was hastily put together for the sake of the Constitution and NOT for political aspirations. This unplanned union is now creating friction. The process of curving up the country and dishing-out constituencies to parties leaves a lot to be desired. You may say that these are UKAWA's internal matters BUT I am worried, if UKAWA is this divided now, what sort of government will they form if/when they win. Instead of leading us, the parties will spend the bulk of their time jockeying for positions. This is not the change I was hoping for. UKAWA is NOT ready for PRIME-TIME. They need to rethink this union and get their act together.
2. You already know my position about Lowasa. However, I had already resigned myself from these concerns, only if we had a strong UKAWA to lead. The problem is "Things are falling apart and the center cannot hold" - Chinua Achebe. This is a recipe for disaster.

Love CDM but I am not sure about this concoction called UKAWA. This, plus my doubts about Lowasa - NOT GOOD, NOT GOOD AT ALL.

cc. Jack Daniel's, kui

I knew you were Pole Pole type of guys just by reading your various comments. You see people like you are so hard to embrace change in reality, you always have thousands of reasons just paint a picture of a bad opposition and silently and in disguise you campaign for CCM. I know that if I ask you too many questions you'll quit the thread again.But let me ask this, when you say UKAWA is not ready, do you mean we should vote for CCM back in office?

They say everyone has a price, CDM former leaders were clearly bought by CCM in attempts to weaken UKAWA and show the people that Lowassa is the bad guy and that those leaders didn't agree with CDM's ultimate decisions. And you talk about a 'division' that was perpetrated by CCM!!!!!!

I have already said, and I'm being consistent, that the reasons you provided against Lowassa cannot be a 'complete game changer'!!!!.

UKAWA has passed through a lot of hurdles, this journey has not been easy for them and all for us who don't like CCM, we are not far away from the sea shore.

 

[Jack Daniel's]

Kifyatu

This is not a brawl, it is a discussion.

I am humbled by your political history and all that. However, if you don't mind, you have left me with a million questions:

(a)why did you ditch CCM in the early 80's?

(b)How do you compare CCM of the 80's and that of 2015. Which one is better? Does your reasons in (a) above still apply in CCM of today?

(c)With all those credits of CDM of 2010, why do you think numbers didn't add up? If for example you lost a game despite having extraordinary preparations, is it absurd to make necessary changes in order to win a rematch? Why do you think CDM is having a huge support this year than in 2010? [According to your policy of choice that shouldn't be the case]

(d)You described yourself of having long 'time desire to scale down CCM', I assume it may have started when you dropped out of CCM in the 80's, is that desire really genuine? Elaborate [This is a party you tolerated for 10 years]

(e) You stated that 'just a matter of 5 years and they would be back', Do you think five years is a short period of time for Tanzanians suffering from all kinds of problems created by CCM's under-performance, corruption and self interests?

(f) You say UKAWA is creating 'friction', As a man with 'long time desire' to degrade CCM, Don't you appreciate the job well done by UKAWA of finally planning and executing the idea of a union of political parties? Did you really expect such an unprecedented move to flow without friction? Have you ever seen any work, project or job without challenges?

(g) Despite challenges, UKAWA has stood strong fixing their eye on the horizon, isn't that something to be proud of? Isn't that equal to 'getting an act together? You say UKAWA is not ready for Prime time, why is CCM copying and pasting their strategies, tactics and slogans?

(h)If you didn't want political parties joining hands to finally oust CCM, what kind of change were you hoping for? With just a few days to go, why should UKAWA spend time rethinking about their union instead of campaigning?

(i)Why do you ignore the fact that CCM has played a huge role in spliting UKAWA? Have you critically analysed Slaa and Lipumba's controversial resignations? if the answer is YES, why didn't you include that analysis, if the answer NO, why No?

(j) Your say you've doubts about Lowassa, what do you think of thousands of people attending his political rallies? UKAWA's leaders have made several statements for those who doubt Lowassa, what is your opinion regarding their explanations?

We are engaging each other remember?

 

[Kubwajinga]

In-order for a country 2 move forward in development and economically we need Changes in democratic governance. Changes of leadership not just for fun but for appropriate challenges to create leadership with transparent system to avoid similar long term chaos of industrial scale corruptions and reducing a gap btwn rich n poor and help protecting welfare of most vulnerable people. It is time for Changes and it is time for CCM to Go or face major breakdown to make them understand what real people need

Not necessarily. Namibia are doing well with SWAPO. Botswana as well had the same party since independence. Likewise Singapore has never changed the ruling party and has been in power since the British rule ended, 55yrs ago.

What we need in Tanzania are two main qualities from the prez, the rest can fall in place gradually:

1. We need a leader who holds others accountable and
2. He/She has to be clean from grand corruption.

In a governing system like ours where the prez is too powerful almost monarchical, a good and clean leader can make many changes in the govt and in his party to reflect his vision, ethics etc.


It is under this conditions that make it necessary to elect a prez who can change others not one that needs to be changed.

Therefore, Edward Lowassa is too corrupt to be allowed to hold any govt position and off-course, we shouldn't expect him to change his ways. Moreover, at his age no one can change him once in power.

Magufuli, on the other hand, has never been accused of any grand corruption and has been holding accountable his subordinates, contractors etc. However, he doesn't seem to be too creative or visionary, but if he can stick just to the above two qualities which he definitely possesses, Tanzania and political parties, CCM, CHADEMA, NCCR etc., can all change for the better.

 

[a.k.a_Mimi]

Not necessarily. Namibia are doing well with SWAPO. Botswana as well had the same party since independence. Likewise Singapore has never changed the ruling party and has been in power since the British rule ended, 55yrs ago.

What we need in Tanzania are two main qualities from the prez, the rest can fall in place gradually:

1. We need a leader who holds others accountable and
2. He/She has to be clean from grand corruption.

In a governing system like ours where the prez is too powerful almost monarchical, a good and clean leader can make many changes in the govt and in his party to reflect his vision, ethics etc.


It is under this conditions that make it necessary to elect a prez who can change others not one that needs to be changed.

Therefore, Edward Lowassa is too corrupt to be allowed to hold any govt position and off-course, we shouldn't expect him to change his ways. Moreover, at his age no one can change him once in power.

Magufuli, on the other hand, has never been accused of any grand corruption and has been holding accountable his subordinates, contractors etc. However, he doesn't seem to be too creative or visionary, but if he can stick just to the above two qualities which he definitely possesses, Tanzania and political parties, CCM, CHADEMA, NCCR etc., can all change for the better.

I disagree completely, the truth Tanzania need Changes or ultimate pressure to CCM incase if they get re-elected. We can't go ahead with similar leadership or without major re-shuffle of our government for the scale of corruption we have seen, poor plans and fall of economy. Your references of Namibia or Botswana are not applicable to Tz system of Government remember those countries are just 2milion each in population, they can easy self sustain, even Singapore they are around 5milion even their leadership is different from us, Singapore the president comes from cabinet system, while Tz we are over 45milion in democratic system we need more challenges from two main 2 parties to form transparency government to progress.

 

[Kubwajinga]

Sir, these are great opinions, but they are partial.....

The broader question is how Magufuli can change CCM from within.... You don't change a corrupt system by 98% corrupt team…..Hold on a sec, can Magufuli's legal team institute criminal proceedings in his ‘new court' against Kikwete, Mkapa, Mwinyi, Chenge et al? When the answer is YES, He will be different indeed, When the answer is NO, It's the same old stuff, just a different day…..

Presidency in Tanzania is a very powerful position. Whoever takes the seat can change the country but no party can change the prez. Therefore a corrupt Lowassa might probably become Mabutu 2.0 and no one will be able to stop him.

On the other hand, Magufuli's govt, based on his past and his campaigns, will definitely be different from Kikwete's, just like how JK's govt was different for Mkapa's, Mwinyi's and Nyerere's. Magufuli is a true change from Kikwete.

​

Magufuli, Mwinyi and Mkapa all of them have corruption allegations….So, who set the standards?

There has never been grand corruption allegations vs Magufuli or Mwinyi.

There is a certain type of fear that has been instilled in you, we call it Lowassaphobia...try thinking positive outside trepidation and believe in something of your own…..

WE ALL NEED TO BE FEARFUL OF EDWARD LOWASSA, HE IS LIKE 'UKIMWI'. THE HIV VIRUS, LOWASSA'S STINKING RICHES, ARE OMNIPRESENT BUT HE DOES'T WANT TO EXPLAIN THE SOURCE OF HIS RICHES.
​

I respect your idealism and I share your concerns, but we don't have that time, that boat is long gone……Thousands of people from the silent majority are joining the vocal minority each day in the path of change…..just stand your ground….

WE STILL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME... NO VOTE HAS BEEN CAST YET!

It seems you took Magufuli's check without recourse…..

The problem with you guys in green is that you are trying to bury or keep a blind eye on the wrongs of Magufuli, for instance those divulged by CAG…….and you can even say he ‘stood for the country'!…..

MAGUFULI has never been personally accused of corruption. He also lives a normal life comparing to his income.

You are not supposed to be so blind in your proclivity that you can't see the reality, wrong is wrong no matter who does it…..It is worth examining both the front and rear sides of all the candidates……​

As a veteran in mageuzi who fought the Mwinyi govt to establish NCCR, with the likes of Mabere Marando, Dr. Ringo Tenga etc., before it was hijacked by Mrema, WE don't need to be lectured on the need for mageuzi in Tanzania, we initiated mageuzi.

BUT AS MUCH AS WE NEED MAGEUZI, WE SHOULDN'T LET A MOLESTER, Edward Lowassa, TO BE OUR BABY SITTER FOR OUR BEAUTIFUL BABY MAGEUZI.

 

[Kubwajinga]

i disagree completely, the truth tanzania need changes or ultimate pressure to ccm incase if they get re-elected. We can't go ahead with similar leadership or without major re-shuffle of our government for the scale of corruption we have seen, poor plans and fall of economy. Your references of namibia or botswana are not applicable to tz system of government remember those countries are just 2milion each in population, they can easy self sustain, even singapore they are around 5milion even their leadership is different from us, singapore the president comes from cabinet system, while tz we are over 45milion in democratic system we need more challenges from two main 2 parties to form transparency government to progress.

If you need a bigger country to compare with, then take China. Mageuzi have happened in China from within and the new leader, XI JINPING, CHINA'S MAGUFULI, is now in the process of "HANGING MAFISADI PAPA" the likes of EDWARD LOWASSA.

 

[Kifyatu]

I knew you were Pole Pole type of guys just by reading your various comments. You see people like you are so hard to embrace change in reality, you always have thousands of reasons just paint a picture of a bad opposition and silently and in disguise you campaign for CCM. I know that if I ask you too many questions you'll quit the thread again.But let me ask this, when you say UKAWA is not ready, do you mean we should vote for CCM back in office?

They say everyone has a price, CDM former leaders were clearly bought by CCM in attempts to weaken UKAWA and show the people that Lowassa is the bad guy and that those leaders didn't agree with CDM's ultimate decisions. And you talk about a 'division' that was perpetrated by CCM!!!!!!

I have already said, and I'm being consistent, that the reasons you provided against Lowassa cannot be a 'complete game changer'!!!!.

UKAWA has passed through a lot of hurdles, this journey has not been easy for them and all for us who don't like CCM, we are not far away from the sea shore.

Sorry for this long reply but I feel I need to explain myself.

yero man, at least be true to yourself. UKAWA, as a union, is in dire straights. For instance, do you know if they have already agreed on how they will share power between the parties after the election? NO, they haven't. They can't even agree on the division of the constituencies during these campaigns. So what do you think will happen soon after the elections, if they win? It will be total chaos.

A power struggle within UKAWA after elections will be very dangerous to our country. There will be the rupture of this peaceful country. Right now during these campaigns UKAWA parties are complaining that CDM is hoarding all the power and are doing all the decision making. They complain that all the other parties have been sidelined. This is evidenced by those accompanying Lowasa in his campaigns. What do think will happen after the elections. This is the reason why I said UKAWA is not ready. CDM is good alone but it is weakened inside UKAWA. They need at least another 5 years to consolidate this union and put it on solid grounds if they are serious. UKAWA in its current form cannot lead Tanzania peacefully. In case UKAWA is elected they will destroy this country instead of building it, as I had hopped.

I had already conceded that Lowasa can be president even though I don't trust him - only if we had a solid UKAWA. Obviously, this is not the case now.

I really find it deplorable that anyone in UKAWA/CDM who disagrees with the powers that be is said to have been bought by CCM. I wonder who bought Lowasa, Sumaye, Lembeli and others when they disagreed with CCM and joined UKAWA? This type of paranoia may make us feel good but will not solve the real problems.

If a person expresses concerns about aspects of UKAWA, instead of dismissing him or her outright as "bought", it is better to ask ourselves if there is any truth in what is being said and if yes - even if partially, to work on it and rectify the problem.

This is the reason why I refrain from debating these political issues because the moment you differ with someone you are labeled "Msaliti, Mbu.rura, kachukue buku zako saba Lumumba, umetumwa wewe, kako.joe ukalale, umenunuliwa wewe, mse.nge wewe, to mention just a few of the insults I have received here in JF."

You know, the advantage I have is that I am not emotionally invested in any party. I don't belong to any political party. So, I am an equal-opportunity-critic to all parties. If I see a party is fit to lead us, I will endorse it. If after 5 years that party messes up, I will endorse another party that I see fit. Even though I had been passionate with CDM, I don't have the same passion with UKAWA and indeed, I think it is outright dangerous to our country in its present form.

So, to answer your question (finally), yes I will endorse CCM and choose Magufuli. This should be a lesson to UKAWA, if they lose, to be more serious and put their house in order in 5-years time. If they win - hold on to your seats.

 

[a.k.a_Mimi]

if you need a bigger country to compare with, then take china. Mageuzi have happened in china from within and the new leader is now in the process of "hanging mafisadi papa" the likes of edward lowassa.

I admire Chinese tough rules. Remember China system is different from Tz they don't have multiparty system. The Leader of National Congress is a president their power in government is divided within legislative branches, our socialist system failed since Mwalimu days. I think you have to compare our system with who ruled us like Britain has two main parties either Labour or the Conservative and when power is unbalanced then you get coalition with smaller parties as it happened in there is UKAWA or like German you have either Social Democratic Party SPD or CDU. Or in USA You can see either Democratic or Republic when there's failure in one party at any circumstances, the challenges makes government more transparency

 

[BabuK]

Kifyatu

This is not a brawl, it is a discussion.

I am humbled by your political history and all that. However, if you don't mind, you have left me with a million questions:

(a)why did you ditch CCM in the early 80's?

(b)How do you compare CCM of the 80's and that of 2015. Which one is better? Does your reasons in (a) above still apply in CCM of today?

(c)With all those credits of CDM of 2010, why do you think numbers didn't add up? If for example you lost a game despite having extraordinary preparations, is it absurd to make necessary changes in order to win a rematch? Why do you think CDM is having a huge support this year than in 2010? [According to your policy of choice that shouldn't be the case]

(d)You described yourself of having long 'time desire to scale down CCM', I assume it may have started when you dropped out of CCM in the 80's, is that desire really genuine? Elaborate [This is a party you tolerated for 10 years]

(e) You stated that 'just a matter of 5 years and they would be back', Do you think five years is a short period of time for Tanzanians suffering from all kinds of problems created by CCM's under-performance, corruption and self interests?

(f) You say UKAWA is creating 'friction', As a man with 'long time desire' to degrade CCM, Don't you appreciate the job well done by UKAWA of finally planning and executing the idea of a union of political parties? Did you really expect such an unprecedented move to flow without friction? Have you ever seen any work, project or job without challenges?

(g) Despite challenges, UKAWA has stood strong fixing their eye on the horizon, isn't that something to be proud of? Isn't that equal to 'getting an act together? You say UKAWA is not ready for Prime time, why is CCM copying and pasting their strategies, tactics and slogans?

(h)If you didn't want political parties joining hands to finally oust CCM, what kind of change were you hoping for? With just a few days to go, why should UKAWA spend time rethinking about their union instead of campaigning?

(i)Why do you ignore the fact that CCM has played a huge role in spliting UKAWA? Have you critically analysed Slaa and Lipumba's controversial resignations? if the answer is YES, why didn't you include that analysis, if the answer NO, why No?

(j) Your say you've doubts about Lowassa, what do you think of thousands of people attending his political rallies? UKAWA's leaders have made several statements for those who doubt Lowassa, what is your opinion regarding their explanations?

We are engaging each other remember?

Politics is dynamic phenomenon that changes players,approaches and strategies. Its not right to compare the previous years politics to current situations. Dynamics, environment, policies, national and society needs and have changed, such comparison wont give us a balanced analysis. Development is paramount and nation's ethics and morals should have the bar raised too! I commend the NCCR leadership that pointed this in their resignation - That we need to uphold highest standard of ethics while implementing changes in our country. The down side of letting go of one or the other will be detrimental with whatever we want to achieve as it will haunt back the nation!

 

[Kubwajinga]

I admire Chinese tough rules. Remember China system is different from Tz they don't have multiparty system. The Leader of National Congress is a president their power in government is divided within legislative branches, our socialist system failed since Mwalimu days. I think you have to compare our system with who ruled us like Britain has two main parties either Labour or the Conservative and when power is unbalanced then you get coalition with smaller parties as it happened in there is UKAWA or like German you have either Social Democratic Party SPD or CDU. Or in USA You can see either Democratic or Republic when there's failure in one party at any circumstances, the challenges makes government more transparency

Changes are needed in Tanzania but they don't have to be dumb changes. They have to be changes from JK not to JK's corrupted person.

We can also have better changes within CCM than having FISADI PAPA LOWASSA under UKAWA. Lowassa is not a change but a LEOPARD IN SHEEP'S SKIN.

Malaysia are doing very well with the same party since independence in a multiparty system. It is who leads the country that matters not the parties. Zambia has changed parties and has never been better than under Kaunda.

LET'S VOTE ANYONE ELSE BUT FISADI PAPA EDWARD LOWASSA.

Change is not necessarily good especially if you change to FISADI PAPA like in Zaire who changed and got Mabutu

 

[Kifyatu]

Kifyatu

This is not a brawl, it is a discussion.

I am humbled by your political history and all that. However, if you don't mind, you have left me with a million questions:

(a)why did you ditch CCM in the early 80's?

(b)How do you compare CCM of the 80's and that of 2015. Which one is better? Does your reasons in (a) above still apply in CCM of today?

(c)With all those credits of CDM of 2010, why do you think numbers didn't add up? If for example you lost a game despite having extraordinary preparations, is it absurd to make necessary changes in order to win a rematch? Why do you think CDM is having a huge support this year than in 2010? [According to your policy of choice that shouldn't be the case]

(d)You described yourself of having long 'time desire to scale down CCM', I assume it may have started when you dropped out of CCM in the 80's, is that desire really genuine? Elaborate [This is a party you tolerated for 10 years]

(e) You stated that 'just a matter of 5 years and they would be back', Do you think five years is a short period of time for Tanzanians suffering from all kinds of problems created by CCM's under-performance, corruption and self interests?

(f) You say UKAWA is creating 'friction', As a man with 'long time desire' to degrade CCM, Don't you appreciate the job well done by UKAWA of finally planning and executing the idea of a union of political parties? Did you really expect such an unprecedented move to flow without friction? Have you ever seen any work, project or job without challenges?

(g) Despite challenges, UKAWA has stood strong fixing their eye on the horizon, isn't that something to be proud of? Isn't that equal to 'getting an act together? You say UKAWA is not ready for Prime time, why is CCM copying and pasting their strategies, tactics and slogans?

(h)If you didn't want political parties joining hands to finally oust CCM, what kind of change were you hoping for? With just a few days to go, why should UKAWA spend time rethinking about their union instead of campaigning?

(i)Why do you ignore the fact that CCM has played a huge role in spliting UKAWA? Have you critically analysed Slaa and Lipumba's controversial resignations? if the answer is YES, why didn't you include that analysis, if the answer NO, why No?

(j) Your say you've doubts about Lowassa, what do you think of thousands of people attending his political rallies? UKAWA's leaders have made several statements for those who doubt Lowassa, what is your opinion regarding their explanations?

We are engaging each other remember?

This is an excellent engagement and I can do this anytime.

I will try to answer your questions as fully as possible. However, If I miss anything please let me know.

Here are my answers to your questions


(a) I ditched CCM in the 80s because belonging to a political tribe (single party or multi-party) didn't excite me anymore. In other words, it was boring.


(b) CCM of 2015 is better than that of the 80s because of the opposition. The opposition brought some level of accountability in CCM. The reasons for ditching CCM in the 80s are still the same and they apply now to the opposition. I am indifferent to party politics. I evaluate each party by its merits and NOT by its name.


(c) I don't know why numbers didn't add up in 2010. It could be vote rigging. It could be that actually CCM won. But I really think the main reason for CDM loss is the division within the opposition. That is why I was exited this year when I heard that UKAWA was going to field one candidate.


(d) My desire to scale down CCM was wishful thinking until 2005 when I saw that we were building a strong opposition. You only scale down CCM if there is a true viable opposition to replace it. I saw that as a reality in the 2010 elections.


(e) CCM has been in power for more than 50 years. Even if CCM was doing everything right I would still have liked the opposition to take over in order for a fresh set of eyes to evaluate and possibly change our development strategies. If you look at a larger picture, 5 years in the life of our country is nothing. I was not disappointed that CDM lost in 2010 because I knew that this year they would come in, until they decided to experiment with UKAWA.


(f) I wanted UKAWA to work but I know it is not happening. The current UKAWA was put together hastily in the course of the Constitutional debate. UKAWA a political union came as an afterthought very very close to the elections. They didn't work out modalities of power sharing during elections and more seriously, after the elections. This, Sir, is extremely dangerous and that is why I said it is a recipe for disaster. If you don't know how a nation in rupture looks like, watch what will happen if UKAWA wins.


(g) I said UKAWA is not ready for prime time because of its current structure. Regarding CCM copying CDM slogans, they say that "imitation is the best form of flattery". CCM is copying CDM slogans and that says a lot about CDM. You will get no argument from me about the good organizational strategies of CDM – that is why I fell in love with it. UKAWA on the other hand – a sheer disaster.


(h) No, I wanted the opposition to join hands to beat CCM but they should have started these negotiations in November 2010 and not in 2014/15. UKAWA as a political entity was an afterthought and its internal organizational structure shows. That is why I think we will have a better UKAWA (maybe by another name then) in 2020.


(i) I don't know these facts you talk about, maybe you may want to inform me however, I don't think CCM was responsible for Slaa and Lipumba's departure. You are giving CCM too much credit. It doesn't take a genius to know that those two saw through the serious flaws within UKAWA and decided not to associate themselves with this union that is bound to fail, even if Lowasa wins. Sorry man, it is not healthy every time something wrong happens in UKAWA to blame CCM. Was UKAWA responsible for the defection of Lowasa, Sumaye, Lembeli, etc.?


(j) I still don't trust Lowasa. However, the truth remains that many people are tired of CCM and they want change, any change, just change. Did you hear them say "even if you put a rock as UKAWA presidential candidate, we will vote for it"? Remember that? It means UKAWA really didn't need Lowasa to win. They could have put Honorable Jack Daniel's there to run for presidency and they would have won. Currently, Lowasa is becoming a liability to UKAWA. People are disillusioned by his lack of charisma in public speeches. The CDM flagship super criticism about MAFISADI (which galvanized people around CDM) has now been hijacked by CCM (what a pity) against UKAWA and is gaining traction now among the people. This is so sad!


In conclusion, I would like to say that:
CDM messed up big time by wrapping itself into UKAWA and bringing in Lowasa. But you never know. People still want change and Lowasa may win. This election could have been a downhill rout (100% win) by CDM. What happened?

 

[Jack Daniel's]

Presidency in Tanzania is a very powerful position. Whoever takes the seat can change the country but no party can change the prez. Therefore a corrupt Lowassa might probably become Mabutu 2.0 and no one will be able to stop him.

On the other hand, Magufuli's govt, based on his past and his campaigns, will definitely be different from Kikwete's, just like how JK's govt was different for Mkapa's, Mwinyi's and Nyerere's. Magufuli is a true change from Kikwete.

In Tanzania's 1977 constitution we have provisions that control the President's actions....BTW why was this not a big deal in 2005 when Kikwete was seeking presidency while Lowassa was behind his strategies?...Nevertheless, I don't deal with fantasies, I deal with facts....your party promises A,B,C and D and fails to achieve B,C and D, you are out.... Changing individuals who uses the same team is not of fecund. PERIOD.

There has never been grand corruption allegations vs Magufuli or Mwinyi.MAGUFULI has never been personally accused of corruption. He also lives a normal life comparing to his income

CAG told us in his report that Tsh. 262 Billion shillings disappeared in paying ghost debts in Magufuli's Ministry, in the same Ministry the government owes at least Tsh.900 Billion in late payment penalties....These are not petty corruptions, they are grand....

Mwinyi and his wife were allegedly involved in ivory business, just like Kinana, selling Tanzanian's ivory to the Middle East...He must have something to say regarding a significant drop in the number of elephants in our National Parks and Game Reserves over the last two or three decades....That is corruption in itself.....

WE ALL NEED TO BE FEARFUL OF EDWARD LOWASSA, HE IS LIKE 'UKIMWI'. THE HIV VIRUS, LOWASSA'S STINKING RICHES, ARE OMNIPRESENT BUT HE DOES'T WANT TO EXPLAIN THE SOURCE OF HIS RICHES.

If that is true, why did CCM fail to hold him accountable for alleged unexplainable affluence since the first president? Why did CCM presidents appointed him to serve in their administrations?

As a veteran in mageuzi who fought the Mwinyi govt to establish NCCR, with the likes of Mabere Marando, Dr. Ringo Tenga etc., before it was hijacked by Mrema, WE don't need to be lectured on the need for mageuzi in Tanzania, we initiated mageuzi.

Well, now we have Slaa and Lipumba out of the picture because of failing to understand the power of the people...Those who we thought had political experiences are making colossal mistakes....perfection doesn't have any kind of relationship with time...

BUT AS MUCH AS WE NEED MAGEUZI, WE SHOULDN'T LET A MOLESTER, Edward Lowassa, TO BE OUR BABY SITTER FOR OUR BEAUTIFUL BABY MAGEUZI.

Do you even understand the absurdity of your fictitious thoughts?...

 

[Jack Daniel's]

This is an excellent engagement and I can do this anytime.

I'm happy to hear that..so, lets get to the bottom of your responses and I'll begin with (d) for obvious reasons.....

(d) My desire to scale down CCM was wishful thinking until 2005 when I saw that we were building a strong opposition. You only scale down CCM if there is a true viable opposition to replace it. I saw that as a reality in the 2010 elections.

According to your hypothesis of replacement with viable opposition, CCM should still continuously rule despite their failure to deliver on their preceding promises. That is conspicuously a non-objective opinion. CCM is marred by corruption and it’s rotten, CCM’s own leaders including your presidential candidate are conceding that in their public orations….The idea that an individual will continuously vote for it just because in his fantasies which clearly contrast imaginations of millions of people seeking change, the opposition is not viable, is completely naive….

(e) CCM has been in power for more than 50 years. Even if CCM was doing everything right I would still have liked the opposition to take over in order for a fresh set of eyes to evaluate and possibly change our development strategies. If you look at a larger picture, 5 years in the life of our country is nothing. I was not disappointed that CDM lost in 2010 because I knew that this year they would come in, until they decided to experiment with UKAWA.

When everything is right people don’t demand change….Lessons we learnt from the history of French Revolution 1789, Iranian (Islamic) Revolution of 1979 and others, tell us explicitly what happens when everything is not right…..Countries like China where everything is kind of right, many people are accepting the status quo……

5 years may be nothing to you, but it is not nothing for people who are at the brink of losing their loved ones because of lack of drugs in hospitals, 5 years is not nothing for students who can’t go school and varsities because they can’t afford it, 5 years is not nothing for Dar es Salaam residents who spend hours in traffic jams from morning to evening….5 years is not nothing for farmers and peasants whose economic activities have not been able to lift them out of poverty…

Can you look at these people in their eyes, and tell them that five years is nothing to be led by a corrupt system? Mind you, they know all about Escrow, Richmond, Meremeta, Mwananchi Gold, Import Commodity Support (CIS), EPA, ANBEN, Simba Trust, Kinana’s Ivory, Fake ferry boat, Kebby’s Hotel, Selling of government residential houses, Ridhiwani’s drug business,….they know and remember all these things…..

(f) I wanted UKAWA to work but I know it is not happening. The current UKAWA was put together hastily in the course of the Constitutional debate. UKAWA a political union came as an afterthought very very close to the elections. They didn't work out modalities of power sharing during elections and more seriously, after the elections. This, Sir, is extremely dangerous and that is why I said it is a recipe for disaster. If you don't know how a nation in rupture looks like, watch what will happen if UKAWA wins.

NARC was similarly formed with remarkable celerity in the aftermath of the Kenyan constitutional referendum, they ended up winning the election of 2002 and ousting and annihilating KANU...

People are afraid of what they have witnessed not some make-believe stories created by a few backroom boys…They are self-determined that they know about all these fear and peace tactics….I don’t think you expect them to buy these fictional CCM’s propagandas, if you do, that is too low…..

(g) I said UKAWA is not ready for prime time because of its current structure. Regarding CCM copying CDM slogans, they say that "imitation is the best form of flattery". CCM is copying CDM slogans and that says a lot about CDM. You will get no argument from me about the good organizational strategies of CDM – that is why I fell in love with it. UKAWA on the other hand – a sheer disaster.

There is nothing wrong with the structure. Assuming a wrong doesn’t create a wrong…..

Sheer disaster? They also said that for NARC (Kenya) in 2002, APC (Nigeria) in 2015, for DPP (Malawi) in 2014, but guess what, it turned out they were all wrong….you should tell your team to desist from using strategies intending to inculcate fear of change among the people……instead they should focus on explaining why 'Maisha bora kwa mtanzania' was a fake mantra....

(h) No, I wanted the opposition to join hands to beat CCM but they should have started these negotiations in November 2010 and not in 2014/15. UKAWA as a political entity was an afterthought and its internal organizational structure shows. That is why I think we will have a better UKAWA (maybe by another name then) in 2020.

Timing of the start of negotiation is irrelevantand unnecessary, it doesn’t add up to anything….we have a better UKAWA now and thisyear they genuinely have a chance to win the election….

UKAWA finished their negotiations months ago by 99% …that is unprecedented, that is more than excellent,that is A+….I think you should tell CCM to reorganize themselves in 2020 because the way they are lost in this game, it is more like a 60 year old nun’s first day in a driving school…..

(i) I don't know these facts you talk about, maybe you may want to inform me however, I don't think CCM was responsible for Slaa and Lipumba's departure. You are giving CCM too much credit. It doesn't take a genius to know that those two saw through the serious flaws within UKAWA and decided not to associate themselves with this union that is bound to fail, even if Lowasa wins. Sorry man, it is not healthy every time something wrong happens in UKAWA to blame CCM. Was UKAWA responsible for the defection of Lowasa, Sumaye, Lembeli, etc.?

You don’t know those facts because you don’t want to know them….sometimes it is better to be a quidnunc with regards to Tanzanian politics at this time of election….try making analysis with more recent information…a lot has been said about Slaa and Lipumba, they are gone like a shadow…

However, read this story of what transpired during the early days of APC in Nigeria…..You’ll understand that when the time for change is ripe, nothing can block it….You'll see the similarity with Slaa and Lipumba in UKAWA's case....

{The resolution to form APC (ruling party) in Nigeria was signed by Tom Ikimi, the who represented the ACN; Annie Okonkwo on behalf of the APGA; , Mallam Ibrahim Shekarau, the Chairman of ANPP's Merger Committee; and Garba Shehu, the Chairman of CPC's Merger Committee. Surprisingly, less than 2 years before the party's historic victory in the 2015 elections, TOP LEADERS Annie Okonkwo, Tom Ikimi and Ibrahim Shekarau resigned from the party and joined the PDP}

Does your theory of viable opposition hold in this case? That was a purported break up from the epicentre.....They won the election though.....

(j) I still don't trust Lowasa. However, the truth remains that many people are tired of CCM and they want change, any change, just change. Did you hear them say “even if you put a rock as UKAWA presidential candidate, we will vote for it”? Remember that? It means UKAWA really didn't need Lowasa to win. They could have put Honorable Jack Daniel's there to run for presidency and they would have won. Currently, Lowasa is becoming a liability to UKAWA. People are disillusioned by his lack of charisma in public speeches. The CDM flagship super criticism about MAFISADI (which galvanized people around CDM) has now been hijacked by CCM (what a pity) against UKAWA and is gaining traction now among the people. This is so sad!

Those statements were made in responding to CCM’s besmirching remarks against Lowassa..A similar statement which went viral stated “whether he’ll bring development or not, we’ll vote for Lowassa to show the world that Tanzania is not for CCM only”……So people say these things to send a message to CCM that they are tired with them and that they are not buying their gimmicks……

Since Lowassa's arrival to CDM, CDM supporters have increased and not decreased, if there would have been disillusionment, that wouldn't have been case....

Magufuli is a liability to CCM….he is out there in the field exposing the underperformance, unaccountability and irresponsibility of CCM, the party he represents….and he wants to be elected, that’s stupid….

Let me throw this question to you too, Magufuli is thinking about establishing a special corruption court…right?...Will his legal team conduct criminal proceedings against Kikwete, Kinana, Mkapa, Chenge et al? YES or NO…..If you answer is NO, then that hijacking is just like barking up the wrong tree….

In conclusion, I would like to say that:
CDM messed up big time by wrapping itself into UKAWA and bringing in Lowasa. But you never know. People still want change and Lowasa may win. This election could have been a downhill rout (100% win) by CDM. What happened?

UKAWA outsourced a research project to an independent company to understand the political environment and their chances of victory in this election…and the results were not even close to 100% if Slaa or Lipumba had stood for the candidacy….this follows an independent study that looked at chances of CDM standing on its own which were the reasons for UKAWA’s political development….No research no right to speak……

 

[Jack Daniel's]

My questions were more broader than how you've narrowed them...I don't think you touched on all elements....By the way, here is my thoughts:

Politics is dynamic phenomenon that changes players,approaches and strategies.

I think this is also true for CDM, they changed their strategies and all that, and we are seeing how that is paying up..there are challenges and hillocks here and there...however it all depends on the political environment....Nobody said politics is static.....

Its not right to compare the previous years politics to current situations. Dynamics, environment, policies, national and society needs and have changed, such comparison wont give us a balanced analysis.

What we are comparing here is not what happens but what makes things happen....the silent forces that yield results....

History teaches us a lot if you don't know....our national and society needs may be different, our environment may be different, our policies may be different, but those values upon which development depend on are still the same....issues like accountability, responsibility, honesty, treating people with equality, fairness, hardwork, patriotism, respect of freedom...unfortunately we are not seeing these values in CCM right now......

Development is paramount and nation's ethics and morals should have the bar raised too! I commend the NCCR leadership that pointed this in their resignation

Pointing about things is one thing, working on it is another thing...for example CCM is saying they will deal with corruption, okey? they also say Lowassa is corrupt, right? But they are in government right now, why have they not taken any action against him for ogdoad years? The president is corrupt but he has a legal protection....

That we need to uphold highest standard of ethics while implementing changes in our country. The down side of letting go of one or the other will be detrimental with whatever we want to achieve as it will haunt back the nation!

Again, it is easy to point fingers outwards than inwards..Its ten years of Kikwete right now, how far has this idea of yours hold up? Do you think voters should punish or reward a weak government....

 

[yero]

Sorry for this long reply but I feel I need to explain myself.

yero man, at least be true to yourself. UKAWA, as a union, is in dire straights. For instance, do you know if they have already agreed on how they will share power between the parties after the election? NO, they haven't. They can't even agree on the division of the constituencies during these campaigns. So what do you think will happen soon after the elections, if they win? It will be total chaos.

If your point is that UKAWA is in dire situation, I've heard those since it was formed, from Nape, Kinana and many others, that was many months ago. But what do we have? We have UKAWA moving steadily and surely. With regards to constituencies, they have agreed by 99%, I don't have any problem the remaining 1%, FYI there can't be chaos from 1%, that is outright lie.

A power struggle within UKAWA after elections will be very dangerous to our country. There will be the rupture of this peaceful country. Right now during these campaigns UKAWA parties are complaining that CDM is hoarding all the power and are doing all the decision making. They complain that all the other parties have been sidelined. This is evidenced by those accompanying Lowasa in his campaigns. What do think will happen after the elections. This is the reason why I said UKAWA is not ready. CDM is good alone but it is weakened inside UKAWA. They need at least another 5 years to consolidate this union and put it on solid grounds if they are serious. UKAWA in its current form cannot lead Tanzania peacefully. In case UKAWA is elected they will destroy this country instead of building it, as I had hopped.

Now you sound more like a prophet or a psychic,are you a prophet or a psychic? You have questions about change, UKAWA is the answer. There is nothing like five more years for CCM, if you like Magufuli go and drink tea with him. This is now what I call UKAWAPHOBIA, the cure for LOWASAPHOBIA can help treat UKAWAPHOBIA as well, it is lemon fruits and lemon juice.

I had already conceded that Lowasa can be president even though I don't trust him - only if we had a solid UKAWA. Obviously, this is not the case now.

You don't need to concede, you are not Magufuli,we haven't voted yet, you are just one voter, there are 24 million others waiting to vote on the 25[SUP]th[/SUP]. Just carry your kichinjio and vote for someone you trust, some of us have already made decisions that we are going to vote forUKAWA. We are just campaigning to get more undecided voters.

I really find it deplorable that anyone in UKAWA/CDM who disagrees with the powers that be is said to have been bought by CCM. I wonder who bought Lowasa, Sumaye, Lembeli and others when they disagreed with CCM and joined UKAWA? This type of paranoia may make us feel good but will not solve the real problems.

There are evidences with regards to those claims, if you don't agree with them, then provide us with alternative evidences.Slaa's meeting with Mwakyembe in order to nail Lowassa, Slaa and Lipumba being protected by National intelligence services under CCM. We have moved past those stories long time ago. I don't even want to know where those culprits are.

If a person expresses concerns about aspects of UKAWA, instead of dismissing him or her outright as "bought", it is better to ask ourselves if there is any truth in what is being said and if yes - even if partially, to work on it and rectify the problem.

There is no time when CCM have said anything positive about CDM, CCM hates CDM because they want to rule indefinitely, so why should I spend time listening for advices from guys whose government has tortured and killed our friends with impunity? Why shouldn't CCM guys spend that time to fix their own party, dealing with corruption, fulfilling their fake promises?

This is the reason why I refrain from debating these political issues because the moment you differ with someone you are labeled "Msaliti, Mbu.rura, kachukue buku zako saba Lumumba, umetumwa wewe, kako.joe ukalale, umenunuliwa wewe, mse.nge wewe, to mention just a few of the insults I have received here in JF."

If your habits and attitudes fits the definitions above, why shouldn't you be called by your new good name? If someone is supporting CCM like you we call him Gamba, because that name fits nicely than a JF name.

You know, the advantage I have is that I am not emotionally invested in any party. I don't belong to any political party. So, I am an equal-opportunity-critic to all parties. If I see a party is fit to lead us, I will endorse it. If after 5 years that party messes up, I will endorse another party that I see fit. Even though I had been passionate with CDM, I don't have the same passion with UKAWA and indeed, I think it is outright dangerous to our country in its present form.

This is not about emotional investment, it is about the people, and everybody knows how corrupt and selfish CCM is. I'm not like you, I stand by the people I don't stand by foolish CCM leaders. For someone who understand well, the problems and challenges facing Tanzanians, that person can't opt for CCM. If that person is a youth like me, shame on him or her, but if he/she is an old person no problem, because that group of people doesn't know alot.

So, to answer your question (finally), yes I will endorse CCM and choose Magufuli. This should be a lesson to UKAWA, if they lose, to be more serious and put their house in order in 5-years time. If they win - hold on to your seats.

It all comes down to this nasty decision. You are not providing any party or union with any lesson. Those lessons are for yourself and your fellow CCM guys. If there is a party that has to put its house in order, that party should be CCM. I'm a voter who punishes underperformance, and Kikwete has not delivered. So, for you Polepole hybrids and siblings, know that you are few, we are many. Majority always rules. FULL STOP.

 

[kui]

I like that term. LOWASSAPHOBIA. To all those people suffering from Lowassaphobia, I want you to know that there is a cure discovered, eating lemons and drinking lemon juice is an effective treatment against Lowassaphobia.

If your point is that UKAWA is in dire situation, I've heard those since it was formed, from Nape, Kinana and many others, that was many months ago. But what do we have? We have UKAWA moving steadily and surely. With regards to constituencies, they have agreed by 99%, I don't have any problem the remaining 1%, FYI there can't be chaos from 1%, that is outright lie.

Now you sound more like a prophet or a psychic,are you a prophet or a psychic? You have questions about change, UKAWA is the answer. There is nothing like five more years for CCM, if you like Magufuli go and drink tea with him. This is now what I call UKAWAPHOBIA, the cure for LOWASAPHOBIA can help treat UKAWAPHOBIA as well, it is lemon fruits and lemon juice.

You don't need to concede, you are not Magufuli,we haven't voted yet, you are just one voter, there are 24 million others waiting to vote on the 25[SUP]th[/SUP]. Just carry your kichinjio and vote for someone you trust, some of us have already made decisions that we are going to vote forUKAWA. We are just campaigning to get more undecided voters.

There are evidences with regards to those claims, if you don't agree with them, then provide us with alternative evidences.Slaa's meeting with Mwakyembe in order to nail Lowassa, Slaa and Lipumba being protected by National intelligence services under CCM. We have moved past those stories long time ago. I don't even want to know where those culprits are.

There is no time when CCM have said anything positive about CDM, CCM hates CDM because they want to rule indefinitely, so why should I spend time listening for advices from guys whose government has tortured and killed our friends with impunity? Why shouldn't CCM guys spend that time to fix their own party, dealing with corruption, fulfilling their fake promises?

If your habits and attitudes fits the definitions above, why shouldn't you be called by your new good name? If someone is supporting CCM like you we call him Gamba, because that name fits nicely than a JF name.

This is not about emotional investment, it is about the people, and everybody knows how corrupt and selfish CCM is. I'm not like you, I stand by the people I don't stand by foolish CCM leaders. For someone who understand well, the problems and challenges facing Tanzanians, that person can't opt for CCM. If that person is a youth like me, shame on him or her, but if he/she is an old person no problem, because that group of people doesn't know alot.

It all comes down to this nasty decision. You are not providing any party or union with any lesson. Those lessons are for yourself and your fellow CCM guys. If there is a party that has to put its house in order, that party should be CCM. I'm a voter who punishes underperformance, and Kikwete has not delivered. So, for you Polepole hybrids and siblings, know that you are few, we are many. Majority always rules. FULL STOP.

yero Your tough love is way too tough man!,...lol!, mind going a little soft on undecided voter like Kifyatu so we don't completely lose him?
Thank God Jack Daniel's is playing a nice police kind of a guy.

What astounds me is how some people still have faith in ccm after all that we've been through with it. And now they're playing the ufisadi card, if they think it's something they can use to take Lowassa down then they should throw the first stone by taking legal actions against him or, they should've done it waay before if they're saints they claim to be. They're pointing an accusing finger while three is pointing back at them.
It seems incongruous to vote ccm back to Ikulu, it will be handling the situation totally opposite of what's expected as far as CCM's job performance goes.

You can tell they're in a hot seat with all the copying, pasting, and that mentioning of 'Ribya' to create fear among wananchi, something that in any way, shape, or form shouldn't come from a presidential candidate, that's just inappropriate.

 

[Kifyatu]

According to your hypothesis of replacement with viable opposition, CCM should still continuously rule despite their failure to deliver on their preceding promises. That is conspicuously a non-objective opinion. CCM is marred by corruption and it's rotten, CCM's own leaders including your presidential candidate are conceding that in their public orations….The idea that an individual will continuously vote for it just because in his fantasies which clearly contrastimaginations of millions of people seeking change, the opposition is not viable, is completely naive….

Here you go again lumping me with CCM. I already told you that I am not emotionally attached to any political party. If a party messes up I criticize, if they do well I praise. Please let us not go there again. We have already discussed this. For you to rehash this argument (lumping me with CCM) here makes me question your attention span.

CCM may be marred in corruption but at least it is internally stable at the moment. CDM was stable. But CDM inside UKAWA is weakened and UKAWA is a powder vessel waiting to explode. I wanted to vote for CDM – remember? But not in its current form.

When everything is right people don't demand change….Lessons we learnt from the history of French Revolution 1789, Iranian (Islamic)Revolution of 1979 and others, tell us explicitly what happens when everything is not right…..Countries like China where everything iskind of right, many people are accepting the status quo……

5years may be nothing to you, but it is not nothing for people who are at the brink of losing their loved ones because of lack of drugs in hospitals, 5 years is not nothing for students who can't go school and varsities because they can't afford it, 5 years is not nothing for Dar es Salaam residents who spend hours in traffic jams from morning to evening….5 years is not nothing for farmers and peasants whose economic activities have not been able to lift them out of poverty…

Can you look at these people in their eyes, and tell them that five years is nothing to be led by a corrupt system? Mind you, they know all about Escrow, Richmond, Meremeta, Mwananchi Gold, Import Commodity Support (CIS), EPA, ANBEN, Simba Trust, Kinana's Ivory, Fake ferryboat, Kebby's Hotel, Selling of government residential houses, Ridhiwani's drug business,….they know and remember all these things…..

5 years is nothing if the alternative (UKAWA) will wreck this country from its core. You will not worry about traffic jams, drugs in hospitals,poverty, and any of these things if people are killing each other in the streets because the ruling elites in UKAWA are fighting in the ensuing power struggle that I predict will happen if UKAWA wins.

Don't lecture me about what is good for my people. Unlike others, the majority of my family members are very poor and are in dire need of an immediate relief. They are the ones in mind when I say I am scared of UKAWA . What I need in this country is change BUT change with stability. Honestly, I don't see stability with the current UKAWA.

NARC was similarly formed with remarkable celerity in the aftermath of the Kenyan constitutional referendum, they ended up winning the election of 2002 and ousting and annihilating KANU...

People are afraid of what they have witnessed not some make-believe stories created by a few backroom boys…They are self-determined that they know about all these fear and peace tactics….I don't think you expect them to buy these fictional CCM's propagandas, if you do,that is too low…..

Me, myself and I came up with these concerns. Are you now calling me a "backroom boy?" The Swahilis have a saying that goes like this: Akutukanaye hakuchagulii tusi. Really, Sir? Have we dragged ourselves to this dark alley now?

There is nothing wrong with the structure. Assuming a wrong doesn't create a wrong…..

Sheer disaster? They also said that for NARC (Kenya) in 2002, APC (Nigeria)in 2015, for DPP (Malawi) in 2014, but guess what, it turned out they were all wrong….you should tell your team to desist from using strategies intending to inculcate fear of change among the people……instead they should focus on explaining why 'Maisha borakwa mtanzania' was a fake mantra....

Ooooh! It looks like I have touched a raw nerve here. Now I know for sure you are an UKAWA insider. Good. Please tell me, if you wish:

• Have you discussed modalities for power sharing between parties after elections?
• Do you care to share this detailed power sharing plan with us mere mortals?

I am not mocking you sir but these are my real concerns with UKAWA. I had already relented to Lowasa but later UKAWA derailed me. You will be doing many undecided people a great favor if you could answer the two simple questions.

Timing of the start of negotiation is irrelevant and unnecessary, it doesn't add up to anything….we have a better UKAWA now and this year they genuinely have a chance to win the election….

UKAWA finished their negotiations months ago by 99% …that is unprecedented, that is more than excellent,that is A+….I think you should tell CCM to reorganize themselves in 2020 because the way they are lost in this game, it is more like a 60 year old nun's first day in a driving school…..

Please sir, if you wish to discuss ideas I will be here for you. These ad hominem (personal) attacks (...you should tell CCM...) against me are really beneath you.

Forming an alliance of multiple opposition parties and creating an entity that can act as a political unit takes more than a few months. If you are happy with the current UKAWA internal structure then so be it. Remember I told you here and now, if UKAWA wins this election then take a front row seat and observe the rupture of our dear nation called Tanzania.

You don't know those facts because you don't want to know them….sometimes it is better to be a quidnunc with regards to Tanzanian politics at this time of election….try making analysis with more recent information…a lot has been said about Slaa and Lipumba, they are gone like a shadow…

However,read this story of what transpired during the early days of APC in Nigeria…..You'll understand that when the time for change isripe, nothing can block it….You'll see the similarity with Slaa and Lipumba in UKAWA's case....

{The resolution to form APC (ruling party) in Nigeria was signed by TomIkimi, the who represented the ACN; Annie Okonkwo on behalf of the APGA; , Mallam Ibrahim Shekarau, the Chairman of ANPP's Merger Committee; and Garba Shehu, the Chairman of CPC's Merger Committee.Surprisingly, less than 2 years before the party's historic victory in the 2015 elections, TOP LEADERS Annie Okonkwo, Tom Ikimi and Ibrahim Shekarau resigned from the party and joined the PDP}

Does your theory of viable opposition hold in this case? That was a purported break up from the epicentre.....They won the election though.....

Whereas I am inquisitive, I am not a gossipy person as you suggest I should be (a quidnunc). I asked you a simple question. Tell me how was CCM responsible for Slaa and Lipumba's departure. Remember, and this the God's truth, I am not a CCM insider. I observe and decide.

Those statements were made in responding to CCM's besmirching remarks against Lowassa..A similar statement which went viral stated "whether he'll bring development or not, we'll vote for Lowassa to show the world that Tanzania is not for CCM only"……So people say these things to send a message to CCM that they are tired with them and that they are not buying their gimmicks……

Since Lowassa's arrival to CDM, CDM supporters have increased and not decreased, if there would have been disillusionment, that wouldn't have been case....

Magufuli is a liability to CCM….he is out there in the field exposing the underperformance, unaccountability and irresponsibility of CCM, the party he represents….and he wants to be elected, that's stupid….

Let me throw this question to you too, Magufuli is thinking about establishing a special corruption court…right?...Will his legal team conduct criminal proceedings against Kikwete, Kinana, Mkapa,Chenge et al? YES or NO…..If you answer is NO, then that hijacking is just like barking up the wrong tree….

Quite a mouthful here and thanks for the details.

I will respond to your last paragraph. Magufuli promising to establish a special corruption court is nonsense. The current courts and laws are adequate. It is just that the laws were not implemented. Now, the courts will not prosecute past presidents because of their immunity. They can prosecute anyone else BUT this will not happen under Magufuli's presidency. That is why I wanted CDM to take the helm – until you guys came and bungled the whole shtick (performance) with UKAWA.

UKAWA outsourced a research project to an independent company to understand the political environment and their chances of victory in this election…and the results were not even close to 100% if Slaa or Lipumba had stood for the candidacy….this follows an independent study that looked at chances of CDM standing on its own which were the reasons for UKAWA's political development….No research noright to speak……

Thanks, I am in the know.

However, know this: In political research (polling), opinions are transient (they change). They change with time, people's moods and information fed to them. That is why mass media advertisements play major role in campaigning up to the time of polling.

The independent company you outsourced this project to did their work and were paid – good for them. However currently, the results given to you are irrelevant, and maybe false. They didn't anticipate CCM's response.


Next time you guys hire this firm, or any other firm for that matter, ask them to use a "GAME THEORETIC APPROACH" in their analysis.

I teach two, whole semester each, courses in GAME THEORY. They are welcome to sit in.

 

[aaamuk]

It's high time now to go the other way.