Mohamed Said
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Hapa Mzee Mohamedi unachotuambia ni kuwa sensa ya mwaka 1967 ilifanyika kwa umakini zaidi na ndiyo iliyokuwa sahihi. Kama unapinga hilo tuletee methodology zilizotumika kwenye sensa hizo mbili tuzifanyie critique hapa.
Mshushe K Malima katika kitimoto hapa,dhulmat mwingine huyo akiutumia uislam kama ngao
THE BIG SHOW,JokaKuu
SI vema kuongea uongo,hakuna sehemu ambapo mimi na wewe tumekubaliana ya kwamba waarabu hawaakufanya biashara ya utumwa,waarabu wameshafanya sana biashara ya utumwa,tena haikua tuh kwa waafrika pekee,bali biashara hiyo walishaifanya miongoni mwa wenyewe kwa wenyewe bi maana wale waarabu ambao walikua mafukara walikuwa wanatumwa na wale wenye nazo enzi hizo hata kabla biashara hiyo kuhamia pwani ya afrika mashariki.
Hoja yangu niliyosimamia ni kwamba Waarabu ambao ni waislam hawakufanya hiyo biashara,kwani uislam tokea aya za quran zinashuka zilishapiga marufuku biashara hiyo wazi wazi..
usipende kuangukia hoja kwa dezo dezo kama wale paka wapenda vya bwerere wanaopenda kushinda shinda kwenye kumbi za BAR huku wakiwaangalia wateja wanaokula nyama choma kwa kutia huruma ili wapewe makombo ya mifupa,acha hizo..
Hebu jifunze kujisimamia wewe mwenyewe..
Setuba,
Sipingi kitu.
Nimeeleza yasemwayo.
Wenzangu sijui nawarudisha nyuma au vipi. Ila nimekutana na article nzuri sana ya mzungu mmoja aliyeshiriki kikaribu sana katika harakati za uhuru wetu. Ameshiriki kwa karibu sana na kina Nyerere, Kawa, Kambona, Sykes, Jamal na wengineo. Article hii utaikuta:Shortly after independence, Tanganyika and Zanzibar merged to form the nation of Tanzania in 1964. Nimenakili ukurasa wa mwanzo;
Nyerere's appointment as history master of St Francis' College, Pugu, near Dar-es-salaam, was officially made on October 9, 1952. The decision had actually been taken when Father Walsh told him in England that the three top classes of St Mary's College, Tabora, Were being transferred to Pugu, Where the catholic Hierarchy was setting up its first territorial secondary school in Tanganyika. Nyerere was now offered a salary of 300 pounds; after a lot of argument between Father Walsh and the Government, this was raised to 450 pounds, plus a thirty-five per cent living allowance.
Naturally Nyerere made haste to see his nationalist friends in Dar-es-salaam. He had read, while in Edinburgh, accounts of their performance before the constitutional committee; now he heard details, which lost nothing in the telling. Yet these excited tales invariably ended in sadness, with an account of the Meru case. After the wedding, when taking his bride from Musoma to the capital, Nyerere stopped in Mwanza for a discussion with Hamza Mwapachu and Abdullah Fundikira, old friends from Makerere days. They agreed to write essays on various subjects: Fundikira on agriculture, Mwapachu on social development, and Nyerere on political theory. All of them were quietly preparing for the day when would embark on political action.
In February, 1953, Julius and Maria started life in Pugu in a new house built for them, with a reasonable salary and the prospect of three of three peaceful, studious years. Soon Nyerere began to meet new people, some as intelligent and stimulating as those he had left behind in Edinburgh.
One of them was, Amir Jamal, a young Asian business man with a first class brain. Born in Tanganyika in 1920, he went to school there and then to India by train as a doctor. Despite his high marks, he could not get into the overcrowded Medical Faculty of Bombay University and therefore studied politics and economics. Back in Dar-es-salaam in 1942, he entered the family business. Financial success, however, did not satisfy him. He was looking for something more important, more creative than lucrative transactions. In the autumn of 1953, at a British council sundowner, he met Julius Nyerere. They only exchanged a few words, but Jamal had the feeling that this was a man well worth knowing. He wrote to but received no reply. Later on Majorie Nicholson, Secretary of the Fabian Colonial Bureau (now the Fabian Common wealthy Bureau), told him to get in touch with Nyerere. To his second letter, mentioning her name, he had an apologetic answer and a meeting followed. This was the beginning of a relationship which was to develop into a close friendship.
Another man Nyerere met at this time was Fraser Murray, a barrister and an idealist who, during the war, had served with the K.A.R and lost an arm in Burma. His wife, Moira, because secretary of the Tanganyika Council of Women, founded by Lady Twining in 1953. The purpose of the T.C.W. was to bring about co-operation between Europe, Asian and African women.
European and Asia women got on well, but the gap between the European and Africa women was enormous. Mrs. Murray's office was at the Arnautoglu Community Center, run by Denis Phombeah, a Nyasa, at that time in the thick of African affairs. His closest friends were Oscar kambona and Zuberi Mtemwu, who in 1962 was to oppose Nyerere in the presidential election. All of them were much influenced by Jimmy MacGairl's, a remarkable Scot who did more for Africans in urban areas than any other European. A Community Development Officer, he started his activities in the Arnautoglu Community Center in Dar-es-salaam, on a brother-to-brother basis. News of this got around quickly and young Africans flocked to him. One of them was Rashid kawawa, who obtained his first social service job on McGairl's recommendation. Murray was much concerned about these young men, and the thoughts awakening in them. To give them an opportunity to clarify their minds, he invented them to his house. Julius Nyerere, whom he had met through his wife, was among his guests.
We had a little group which we called the oracle (Murray has told the author). Our idea was to run it on the lines of an Oxford discussion group. A nucleus of eight people formed the oracle, its mainstay being two Asians, Amir Jamal and Eddy Copper, my two oldest friends in Tanganyika. Copper, a builder, was also the oracle's secretary. It was a non-racial group, including a few broadminded Europeans, such as Basil Thompson, Who had a genuine approach to people, regardless of their colour. Every Friday we used to meet in each other's houses without refreshments, as these might have embarrassed the Africans who could not have afforded to return the courtesy. The host's duty was to get some one to lead off the discussion.
On Friday the meeting was held at Amir Jamal's house, and he introduced Julius, saying that he would talk on conscription. This was at the time of the Mau Mau emergency in Kenya, when security and military preparations were in everyone's mind. I cannot remember all Julius said, but I remember that all of it was sensible. Fraser Murray told his friends about Nyerere, predicting that he would become Prime Minister of Tanganyika one day. Randal Sadleir, then Assistant Secretary for Legal Affairs, asked to meet him. This was arranged to take place at the Cosy Café in Dar-es-salaam, where the three argued until 2 am. Over brandy for which Murray paid. Sadleir was greatly impressed by Nyerere. It was a common myth that I was the power behind Julius and Tanu (Murray has said) I never gave advice. Julius knew that I supported him politically, but it was much more important for me that I was his friend. Later I did legal work for Tanu. The first big case was that of Ali Migeya, in Bukoba. He was an early ‘again the Government' chap, basically bolshy, but not a political figure. At that time Tanu was just a dirty word; it was almost seditious to talk about Tanu. I brought Migeya before a D.C who was a friend of mine. This was the first time that Tanu defended one of its own members. Julius attached such importance to this that he met me at the airport when I returned from Bukoba. Later I tried many big Tanu cases, and defended Julius himself in 1958.
Hapo mzee wangu nimekuelewa. Ya kusemwa yapo ya ukweli, mengine ya uongo, mengine ya kudhaniwa tu. Hadi sasa hatujui hayo uliyoeleza yanasimama upande gani. Nimekuelewa vizuri mzee wangu, sasa tuendelee na mazungumzo. Ninachosema nimi ni kuwa hayo yasemwayo yanastahili kupimwa ukweli wake. Kwa kipimo changu mimi nimeona bado kuna shaka sana, nasita kuyaamini.
Haya ndio maneno yanayoandikwa na msomi wa madrasa aliyebobea, ukimwita mpuuzi atakuja na makalele ati katukanwa!Haki ya nani mapigo yao ya moyo yashaanza kuwaenda kasi wanapoipata habari hiyo..
Na wakishaanza kumwaga machozi mimi nimeleta contena la leso za kufuta machozi yao kutoka dubai..
Mwaga nyuki wawashe moto hapa..
Mzee Said ni kuwa, huyu Mzungu, ana MTAZAMO USIO WA KIDINI KWENYE HARAKATI HIZI. Mimi niko naye 100%. Sina tatizo na wewe unavyokiangalia kila kitu katika uislamu. Kwa hiyo, huenda mimi napomuona Ali Migeyo huko Bukoba akitetewa na lawyer mzungu mwenye uzalendo wa Kitanganyika, wewe huenda ukaona maskini Mwislamu ana anatetewa na kafiri Mkiristo. Nadhani tukubali kuishi na tofauti hizi ili tusome pages zinazokuja. Page ya pili utaona Huyo Nyerere Mkatoliki uliyemdharau ugeni wake Dar, anavyombwaga nduguyo Sykes (Mwislamu, alwatan wa Dar) kwenye uchaguzi wa TAA ambapo nahisi (sina hakika) wapiga kura wengi pia walikuwa ni waislamu. fanya subira. Nitasoma materials zako pia. Tuma zote kwenye wickama@gmail.com
Mohamed hakuna darsa hapo! unarudi nyuma. Hii ina matundu mengi sana, imejaa ulaghai. Ngoja tuitafutie muda tuweke wazi kila kitu.Wickama,
Baada ya kumsoma Mzungu huyo kuhusu Nyerere hebu nisome na mimi unisikie nasemaje kuhusu Nyerere.
Kamueleza Ali Migeyo (ingawa kamkosea jina) na mimi nikimaliza darsa la Nyerere nitakuja na darsa la Migeyo:
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[TD]The Story of Julius Nyerere, 1952
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[TD="width: 752, bgcolor: transparent"]Mwapachu and Nyerere had shared the same dormitory while students at Makerere College while Kasella Bantu and Nyerere had taught together at St. Marys School in Tabora. Kasella Bantu, a very radical TAA activist with an unshakable anti-colonial view point, resigned from teaching and came to Dar es Salaam to join the Tanganyika Broadcasting Corporation (TBC). In an emotional farewell speech which Nyerere delivered on 5 th November, 1985, to Dar es Salaam Elders, an exclusive group of Muslim townsmen who had supported him since the founding of TANU, Nyerere told his audience that it was Kasella Bantu who had introduced him to Abdul Sykes. This was one of the very rare occasions at which Nyerere talked publicly about his beginnings and it was the first time he had mentioned Abdulwahids name in public associating him with his own history and that of the party. [1]In 1952 Julius Kambarage Nyerere came to Dar es Salaam to teach at St. Francis College, Pugu. Nyerere had been with Mwapachu at Tabora in 1945, and at Makerere College and later in Britain pursuing further studies. It is possible that Nyerere, who closely followed TAA activities, heard about Abdulwahid through Mwapachu while he was still in Britain.
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[TD="width: 752, bgcolor: transparent"]Nyerere was a complete stranger to Dar es Salaam and as was the tradition, Kasella Bantu took him to Abdulwahids house to complete his orientation and to meet the notables of the town. Apart from Dossa Aziz who had met Nyerere briefly at TAAs general conference in April, 1946, Kasella Bantu himself and Denis Phombeah, nobody at the TAA headquarters had ever heard of Nyerere. After the introduction Abdulwahid, Nyerere, Ally, Dossa Aziz, Mhando, Rupia, Dunstan Omari and others used to meet every Sunday for a baraza (palaver) either at Dossas home at Congo Street or at Abdulwahids house at Stanley Street. These were two venues where the nationalists met to discuss the future of Tanganyika.
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[TD="width: 752, bgcolor: transparent"]Political debates among the young nationalists now shifted from topics of internal discontent to leftist international issues concerning government and self-determination for the African people. In Abdulwahid, Mwalimu Nyerere found a person of high intellect, selflessness and a likeable character. In Julius Nyerere, Abdulwahid found a highly educated person with admirable debating skills. Nyerere was exposed to the world and sharpened by the politics of the Fabian Society during his student days in Britain. Very constructive debates evolved in the Sunday discussions when Abdulwahids intellect and political experience were pitted against Nyereres legendary debating skills. Nyerere did not have any political experience worth mentioning at that time to compare with Abdulwahid. When the African Association in Tabora took part in the 1947 General Strike Nyerere did not involve himself with this working-class movement, although he was the Associations secretary.
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[TD="width: 752, bgcolor: transparent"]Mutual respect ensued between Abdulwahid and Nyerere. Each Sunday Nyerere would travel from Pugu to Dar es Salaam to attend the informal meetings. After the meetings either Dossa Aziz or Dunstan Omari would drive Nyerere back to Pugu. This is how Nyerere came to be integrated into TAAs inner circle at the headquarters and how he was subsequently proposed to stand for the Associations topmost leadership post in April, 1953. TAAs leadership proposed Julius Nyerere in order to strengthen the organisation with highly educated Africans. It was left to Nyerere to accept or decline the offer. It was one thing to discuss politics and quite a different matter to lead a political movement aiming to capture state power. This was a war against the colonial state and one had to be prepared for any eventuality.
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[TD="width: 752, bgcolor: transparent"]Nyerere was a Roman Catholic trained teacher who had been through a system which moulded its followers to be obedient and loyal to both the church and the state. He was also under the influence of Father Richard Walsh who had arranged for his scholarship to study in Scotland. It is said Father Walsh had considerable influence on Nyereres life and thought. [2] He had groomed Nyerere and had him enrolled at Edinburgh University. He was not therefore expected to oppose the government. The Church expected Nyerere to settle down to a teaching career at one of the mission schools in Tanganyika. When he returned from studies in Britain the previous year and was about to settle down in life, the young townsmen he found in politics in Dar es Salaam such as Abdulwahid, his young brother Ally, and Dossa Aziz were people of means who lived in their own environment. As a Christian, Nyerere knew that he could never hope to build a political base in the Dar es Salaam environment of the 1950s where politics assumed strong Muslim characteristics. At first Nyerere was reluctant to accept the offer.
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[TD="width: 752, bgcolor: transparent"]The TAA leadership was clever enough to realise the value of Nyereres education and its potential to the future leadership of the association and the country. Abdulwahid confided with the TAA executive that having the most educated African in the land as the president of the Association would strengthen its leadership and portray a good image before the eyes of the colonial government and the United Nations Visiting Missions. Nyerere is quoted as having said that it had been his intention to teach for a while then enter politics. [3] Eventually Nyerere was made to accept the leadership TAA extended to him.
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[TD="width: 752, bgcolor: transparent"]The contest between the incumbent president, Abdulwahid, and an unknown schoolteacher, Julius Nyerere, took place at the Arnatouglo Hall on 17 April, 1953. Outside the circle of the TAA leadership which had proposed him to stand, Nyerere was a complete stranger to the electorate he was facing to ask for their votes. Nyereres political career began from that day. There he was, a stranger with no history of leading a peoples struggle against the colonial government. On the other other side was the Sykes family which was associated with Dar es Salaam politics for almost a quarter of a century; founding and leading both the African Association and Al Jamiatul Islamiyya. Abdulwahid was a member of a family which had discussed political issues of the day publicly and written about them, at times exchanging correspondence with the colonial authority.[4]
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[TD="width: 752, bgcolor: transparent"]The election was by a show of hands. Phombeah who was in charge of the Arnatouglo Hall was the returning officer. Phombeah asked both Abdulwahid and Nyerere to go out of the hall for voting to begin. The whole week before voting Phombeah was making rounds campaigning for Nyerere. But there was no need of doing that; the TAA inner circle of Abdulwahid, Ally, Dossa Aziz and Rupia had already decided to make Nyerere president of the Association and the election was a mere formality. After Abdulwahid and Nyerere had gone out, voting began. Abdulwahid lost the election-the first loss in his whole political career-and Nyerere won by a very small margin.[5] This was the beginning of the end of the influence of the Sykes family in the TAA and the beginning of Nyereres political career. From that day the political history of Tanganyika was never to be the same again.
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[TD="width: 752, bgcolor: transparent"]It is strange that this milestone in Nyereres life has neither been documented nor accorded importance. In his whole political career Nyerere was never again to face a more formidable opponent than Abdulwahid. This contest between Abdulwahid and Nyerere has become a legend. Some reports have it that Abdulwahid won the election, others say Nyerere won by a single vote; yet others say that TAA members had to vote thrice to get the winner since the votes were tying. Dossa Aziz reports that Abdulwahid did not lose that election, and went on to say that:
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[TD="width: 752, bgcolor: transparent"]There was no way Nyerere could defeat Abdulwahid in Dar es Salaam of 1950s. Abdulwahid was not defeated in that election. We all wanted it to be that way. We wanted Nyerere to assume TAA leadership.[6]
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[TD="width: 752, bgcolor: transparent"]Nyerere himself has never talked about this election or how he came to lead the Party in Dar es Salaam. The nearest he got to reflect on Abdulwahid was in the farewell speech to Elders of Dar es Salaam, and unfortunately his memory failed him as he could not recall what post Abdulwahid was occupying when he (Nyerere) joined TAA in 1952.
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[TD="width: 752, bgcolor: transparent"]In order to understand the dilemma facing Abdulwahid, Nyerere and the TAA leadership, particularly the inner circle, one has to keep in mind that Muslims were a majority in Dar es Salaam and were in control of local politics. Very few Muslims had confidence in mission-educated Christians. They were perceived as being too close to the colonial state to take a leading role in the struggle for independence, and many people used the election to show their objection to Nyerere. They saw him as an outsider withdrew their support from the association. Nyerere was new to the town. He had no political base of his own and was for the most of the week teaching at Pugu, outside Dar es Salaam. Abdulwahid was flamboyant and as president of TAA he had put colour into the office. He used to invite TAA activists to his house for lunches and dinners and this added to his popularity. At that time many thought Nyerere would not fit into Abdulwahids shoes.
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[TD="width: 752, bgcolor: transparent"]Tewa Said recollects that the day before the election at Arnatouglo Hall, Abdulwahid went to his house in the evening. At that time Tewa lived in Pemba street not very far from Abdulwahids house. Abdulwahid had this to say to Tewa about the leadership change in TAA that they had decided to effect:
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[TD="width: 752, bgcolor: transparent"]Tewa, tomorrow we are going to give this man, Nyerere, power to run this country. From there on, once we elect him to lead us there is no way we can take that power away from him. We do not know him very well but I hope everything is going to turn all right.
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[1] In hisfarewell speech Nyerere paid tribute to Muslim elders who supported him duringthe struggle in spite of his religion,
but he played down the role ofAbdulwahid and TAA as a political organisation.
[2] WilliamRedman Duggan and John R. Civille, Tanzania and Nyerere, New York, 1976, p. 45.
[3] Nyerere hasbeen quoted on this in his many speeches.
[4] Some ofthis correspondence is in the custody of the Sykes family but a good number ofthem dating from 1930-1955 are
preserved at the Tanzania National Archives(TNA) and Party Archives in Dodoma.
[5] SeeListowel, op. cit. p 221 also Iliffe, AModern History... op. cit. p 510.
[6] Dossa Aziz,interviewed in 1987.
Mohamed hujajibu swali. Sensa ilikuwepo mwaka 1957 na ilifanywa na taasisi ipi, simple! Hatuhitaji hadithi za kukwepa swali.Nguruvi,
Habu soma hapo chini bold:
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[TD]About two-thirds of East African Muslims reside in Tanzania[1] which is the most populous of the East African countries, i.e. Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania. This includes Zanzibar-a predominantly Muslim country with a 99% Muslim population and once the centre of Islamic
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[TD="width: 752, bgcolor: transparent"]learning in East and Central Africa. According to the 1957 population census, Muslims outnumbered Christians at a ratio of three to two. This, at that time, meant that Tanzania was a leading Muslim nation South of the Sahara. But in the first post-independence census of 1967 the total figures for Tanzania Mainland were 32% Christian, 30% Muslim and 37% local belief. These figures show Pagans as a leading majority in Tanzania. The 1967 census has not been able to show the reasons for the sudden decrease of Muslim population nor the growth of animists amidst believers in the span of the last ten years.
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[TD="width: 752, bgcolor: transparent"]This was the last population census showing religious distribution. It is widely believed that the figures for the 1967 census were doctored for political reasons to show that Muslims were trailing behind Christians in numerical strength. There is evidence that the government in 1970, having realised that Muslims were a majority in Tanzania, directed the Statistical Department to destroy all the 1967 census results. [2]
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[TD="width: 752, bgcolor: transparent"]Unfortunately power sharing in the political system in Tanzania is very much skewed against Muslims, although it is known that the stability of any nation depends on proper balancing of these facts. Different sources provide different Muslim-Christian religious distribution figures. These conflicting figures are as a result of sensitivity of the issue. Among African countries with sizable population of Muslims and Christians, like Tanzania and Nigeria,[3] the inquiry as to which faith commands a leading majority, is a source of potential conflict and controversy. Tanzania is of no exception. D.B. Barret[4] gives figures which show Muslims as a minority in Tanzania. The Muslim population is purported to be 26%, Christian 45%, local belief 28%. Tanzania National Demographic Survey figures for 1973 put Muslims in Tanzania slightly above Christians at 40%, Christians 38.9% and local belief 21.1%. But according to Africa South of The Sahara, [5] Muslims in Tanzania are a leading majority at 60%. This figure has remained constant in all its publications since 1982. Since research by Tanzanian Muslims on Islam is scant or almost non-existent, the issue of Muslim population has yet to be tackled from an Islamic point of view. [6]
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[TD="width: 752, bgcolor: transparent"]Distribution of authority and power sharing is a factor which should not have been a cause of conflict in independent African countries. Ironically this has become a point of controversy only under indigenous governments. It is a sensitive issue because ethnicity, religious identity and clanship is an important factor in independent African states. Power distribution and numerical strength has also to be reflected in the sharing of political power along those lines. During colonial rule, distribution of power under ethnicity and religious bias in Africa by colonising powers were not perceived as so serious a breach of trust by subjects as to warrant civil upheavals. Fortunately tribalism is not pronounced in Tanzania, but religion has been a factor of discrimination since colonial days.
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Muslims and Islam in Tanzania', in Al Haq International (Karachi) September/October 1992.
Jokakuu, watumwa waliokuwa wanakusanywa Zanzibar walipelekwa wapi?THE BIG SHOW,
..una kazi kubwa sana kuwatenganisha hao Waomani na Uislamu.
..kwamba Kuran imekataza utumwa hilo sina ubishi nalo.
..hata kwenye Biblia imeandikwa kwamba MUNGU aliwatoa utumwani wana wa Israeli.
..pamoja na ushahidi huo ktk maandiko matakatifu, bado Wazungu/Wakristo na Waarabu/Waislamu walishiriki biashara ya utumwa. ukweli ndiyo huo.
cc: Ritz, Jasusi, Nguruvi3
Kadogoo! mbona hujibu maswali unayoulizwa? umeulizwa hivi, maelezo ya ziara yako huko Misri ni sehemu ya historia ya Tanganyika? au unataka kututambia kama ilivyo kawaida yako wewe na hilo zee lako?