Uchochezi wa Mohamed Said na dhihaka kwa Wapigania Uhuru wa Tanganyika na Zanzibar

[THE BIG SHOW]

Mi ndo nashindwa kuelewa au? Itakuwaje mfumo kristo wakati katika serikali kuna waislamu tena wengi tu wanao usimamia huo mfumo?

Uite jina lolote lile lingine lakini aingii akilini kuuita mfumokristo wakati waislamu ndo viongozi wakuu wa existing mfumo.

Na kama ni dhulma basi tuiite waislamu wamadhulumiwa na wakristo na waislaamu wenzao.

Justification ya kunena hayo unaipata wakati huu wa awamu ya nne??

 

[Mohamed Said]

Huyu Sheikh Kassim Bin Jumaa ndie aliyekutwa na mtoto wa kiume amejichimbia guest house arusha???? tabloid press zikawa na field day????

Son...
Ikiwa utaniahidi uko serious katika kisa cha Sheikh Kassim Juma
nitatoa darsa ambalo nina hakika wana jamvi watafaidika.

Nilitoa pp kuhusu Sheikh Kassim Kenyatta University 2006.

Nimekuwekea sharti hili kwa kuwa shutuma zilizotolewa na magazeti
na wewe umezirudia hapa ni nzito na watu hawakuelezwa upande wa
pili wa taarifa.

 

[Son of Alaska]

Son...
Ikiwa utaniahidi uko serious katika kisa cha Sheikh Kassim Juma
nitatoa darsa ambalo nina hakika wana jamvi watafaidika.

Nilitoa pp kuhusu Sheikh Kassim Kenyatta University 2006.

Nimekuwekea sharti hili kwa kuwa shutuma zilizotolewa na magazeti
na wewe umezirudia hapa ni nzito na watu hawakuelezwa upande wa
pili wa taarifa.

Tunaomba huo upande wa pili,but lest you forget,kabla hata ya arusha,dar es salaam grapevine ilikuwa inamzungumzia sana huyu mtu kwa ta

 

[Son of Alaska]

Tunaomba huo upande wa pili,but lest you forget,kabla hata ya arusha,dar es salaam grapevine ilikuwa inamzungumzia sana huyu mtu kwa tabia zake

 

[Geeky]

Mi ndo nashindwa kuelewa au? Itakuwaje mfumo kristo wakati katika serikali kuna waislamu tena wengi tu wanao usimamia huo mfumo?

Uite jina lolote lile lingine lakini aingii akilini kuuita mfumokristo wakati waislamu ndo viongozi wakuu wa existing mfumo.

Na kama ni dhulma basi tuiite waislamu wamadhulumiwa na wakristo na waislaamu wenzao.

I think the issue here is not wether or not the christians hold a predominant position it should should be clear by now that they actually do. That christians are much more organised in dealing with the challenges that they face in education and health in particular is also true. The issue should be the legality of those means, which we know is not disputed as it is sanctioned.
Mwanakijiji once addressed this issue fairly in a similar thread that was about christians dominance at government posts in various ministries- huwezi kubali wakristo wamesoma wengi alafu wakati huohuo unategemea wakawa na uwakilishi mdogo katika posts mbalimbali that is just impossible.

This is much like whats happening in America now where you have muslims complaining against the jewish lobby shapping America's foreign policy but when you ask them what they actually do to counter lobby America (noting there are more muslims in America than there are jews) you will find out that muslims actually bomb America and its embassies. Then go around and complain about jewish lobbyists when these guys actually go through proper channels to do what they do.
At least do the descent thing before you lash out against your rivals.

 

[Mzee Mwanakijiji]

Mwanakijiji,

Angalia hapa unavyo kosoa cdm kiujanja ujanja ili hali unatamani wakusikize ili usidondoshe machozi kwa nafasi inayopotezwa!

Matatizo mengine CHADEMA mnajitakia | Gazeti la MwanaHalisi

Halafu hapa tena utatuambia wewe sio CDM?

https://www.jamiiforums.com/jukwaa-...ishe-maandamano-dhidi-ya-jeshi-la-polisi.html

Tafuta na makala nyingine nilizotoa ushauri kwa vyama vingine vya siasa...

 

[Mohamed Said]

Tunaomba huo upande wa pili,but lest you forget,kabla hata ya arusha,dar es salaam grapevine ilikuwa inamzungumzia sana huyu mtu kwa tabia zake

Son...

Unanipa mtihani.
Grapevine ina mengi na ni hulka ya binadamu kupenda kusikia yale yanayosisimua.

Ndiyo maana leo unaona magazeti ya udaku yanashamiri.

Sheikh Kassim alikuwa sheikh kijana sana na alivunja zile taratibu za usheikh kama
zilivyozoeleka za kuwa ''conservative'' nk.

Ilikuwa jambo la kawaida sana kumkuta Sheikh Kassim kakaa kona ya Mkunguni na
Lumumba anatia stori na vijana wenzake wa umri wake.

Jambo ambalo masheikh kama walivyozoeleka wasingeweza kuthubutu kulifanya.

Au unaweza kumkuta Sheikh Kassim kavaa kanzu tupu bila kofia wala juba anatembea
mjini nk.

Lakini kubwa juu ya hayo Sheikh Kassim alikuwa na maadui wa siri katika jamii ya Kiislam.
Haya utayaona katika ''excerpts'' kutoka pp yangu Insha Allah.

Baada ya kusema haya nitakuomba usinirejeshe katika ''grapevine'' bali soma kile ambacho
naamini hukuwa unakijua.

 

[Mohamed Said]

Tunaomba huo upande wa pili,but lest you forget,kabla hata ya arusha,dar es salaam grapevine ilikuwa inamzungumzia sana huyu mtu kwa tabia zake

Son...

Huyu hapa Sheikh Kassim.
Mimi nikimjua toka utoto wangu hadi anafariki:

In order to understand the mobilising force behind the Muslim agitationagainst the government particularly in the years when the first Muslimpresident was in office one needs to trace the life of Sheikh Kassim bin Jumabin Khamis the brilliant sheikh of Tanzanian mainland pulpit politics. SheikhKassim bin Juma will go in history as the only sheikh in Tanzania who servedtwo presidents diligently. He protected Nyerere from Muslims by helping him toban the EAMWS and establish BAKWATA and later helped President Mwinyi tocontain and overcome Christian machinations against his leadership. SheikhKassim originating from Bagamoyo as a young man rose to prominence in early1960s soon after returning from studies in Pakistan. As a young boy SheikhKassim ran away from home took a dhow and came to Dar es Salaam. That was inearly 1950s.This daring attitude came to manifest in him in his adult life andcan be seen in the way Sheikh Kassim came to make utterly and equallyunpredictable decisions in his life which not only changed the politics of thetownship but also created problems and misery to many people and the Muslimcommunity as a whole. But yet in this enigma Muslims in the last years of hislife came to benefit from all that was Sheikh Kassim's strange personality. Sheikh Kassim was very approachable yet for those who did not know himhe looked bigger than life. He rubbed shoulders with the mighty of theTanzanian politics and yet the same man was at his at his baraza in Kariakoochatting and exchanging jokes and tit bits with the low of the lowest. Hispersonality whenever he was radiated each and everyone in the crowd. SheikhKassim had a fiery temper yet he was very forgiving easy to forget a quarreland patch up with whomever he had quarrelled with within a very short period oftime talking and laughing with him as if nothing had taken place between them.Sheikh Kassim was a brilliant orator. That was his greatest gift. JuliusNyerere came to know Sheikh Kassim's real personality very late in his life andby then it was very late for both of them to retract. Kassim felt betrayed bythe system he had supported throughout his life and Nyerere regretting why hehad built up a monster, a Frankstein which came to devour him happily. InshaAllah we will come to read about these two interesting characters in the historyof Muslims in Tanzania in the course of events. Reflecting on Sheikh Kassimafter his death, Mzee Kissinger who had known Kassim since his childhood said,"You have not seen anyone like Kassim, he was in a class of his own." In those days the dhows anchored at Msasani a fishing village outsideDar es Salaam. From Msasani young Kassim came to Kariakoo Market which was thehub of commercial activities in the municipality. Dressed in a kanzu andholding small bundle in his hand which contained his belongings he had no place to go and wasamazed by all those people and cars and buses coming into Kariakoo anddeparting because Karikaoo was the main bus stand for town buses as well asthose coming from upcountry. Kassim had never been to Dar es Salaambefore. Someone noticed the young boywho seemed to be stranded. He questioned him and Kassim told him he had come toDar es Salaam to enrol in amadras. Kassim was taken to the zawiyya of SheikhUwesu one of the khalifa's of Tariqa Quadiriyya and Sheikh Uwesu enrolled himin his madras. His father Mzee Khamis came to Dar es Salaam to look for theboy. A story is told that when he entered the zawiyya at Gogo Street SheikhUwesu was teaching and Kassim was with the other boys listening to SheikhUwesu. Raising his head Sheikh Uwesu noticed a stranger walking into the zawiyyaand his face resembled young Kassim. He knew that was the father of the boy hehad recently enrolled. Sheikh Uwesu told Kassim's father that he should nottake the boy back to Bagamoyo but to let him stay at the zawiyya and study.Kassim's father obliged. Sheikh Kassim assumed a new name at the zawiyya andcame to be known as Daruweshi and for many years during his youth this namestuck to Sheikh Kassim.[1] Kassimwas not to leave Dar es Salaam and he came to be one of the very prominentpersonalities and an influential sheikh. Sheikh Kassim's tariqa leanings in hislife can be traced from this period at the Zawiyya of Sheikh Uwesu. While a student in Pakistan, Sheikh Kassim came into contact with therenowned Muslim scholar, Abu Ala Maudud and the Jamaat Islami. Sheikh Kassim ascendancy coincided with thepolitical phase in Tanzania when Nyerere was conducting a silent purge againstMuslims in TANU. He had already disposed Mufti Sheikh Hassan bin Amir, TewaSaid Tewa, Sharrif Ahmed Badawiy and others. Muslims were at that time tryingto assert their authority having equal status with Christians and to haveinfluence in the political system. Nyerere realising that Muslim sentimentsagainst his government could be articulated through Muslim organisations suchas the EAMWS whose patron was the Aga Khan, and Al Jamiatul Islamiyya fi Tanganyika and others Nyerere relied uponSheikh Kassim to dismantle these organisations and form a national Muslimorganisation with indigenous leadership of Muslims supportive to his rule. Thecrisis ensued as a result of this threw Muslims in a disarray unprecedented inthe history of Tanzania. The crisis culminated in the formation of NationalMuslim Council of Tanzania known by its Swahili acronym as BAKWATA. The rise ofSheikh Kassim and his attachment to the government and President Nyereretherefore went parallel with detention of very respectable Muslim scholars.This period was marked by mass arrests of Muslims who Nyerere thought wereagainst his government. The arrests and detentions were necessary to enableNyerere intimidate the Muslim leadership and in the same vein forge alliancewith new leadership of his own choice. The purge created a vacuum in the Muslimleadership.

---

[1] Information fromMzee Kissinger who knew Sheikh Kassim Juma since his youth.

 

[Mohamed Said]

Tunaomba huo upande wa pili,but lest you forget,kabla hata ya arusha,dar es salaam grapevine ilikuwa inamzungumzia sana huyu mtu kwa tabia zake

Son...

Huyu hapa Sheikh Kassim.
Mimi nikimjua toka utoto wangu hadi anafariki:

In order to understand the mobilising force behind the Muslim agitationagainst the government particularly in the years when the first Muslimpresident was in office one needs to trace the life of Sheikh Kassim bin Jumabin Khamis the brilliant sheikh of Tanzanian mainland pulpit politics.

SheikhKassim bin Juma will go in history as the only sheikh in Tanzania who servedtwo presidents diligently. He protected Nyerere from Muslims by helping him to ban the EAMWS and establish BAKWATA and later helped President Mwinyi to contain and overcome Christian machinations against his leadership.

SheikhKassim originating from Bagamoyo as a young man rose to prominence in early1960s soon after returning from studies in Pakistan.

As a young boy Kassim ran away from home took a dhow and came to Dar es Salaam.

That was nearly 1950s.

This daring attitude came to manifest in him in his adult life andcan be seen in the way Sheikh Kassim came to make utterly and equally unpredictable decisions in his life which not only changed the politics of the township but also created problems and misery to many people and the Muslim community as a whole.

But yet in this enigma Muslims in the last years of his life came to benefit from all that was Sheikh Kassim's strange personality. Sheikh Kassim was very approachable yet for those who did not know himhe looked bigger than life. He rubbed shoulders with the mighty of theTanzanian politics and yet the same man was at his at his baraza in Kariakoo chatting with fellow age mates and exchanging jokes and tit bits with the low of the lowest.

His personality whenever he was radiated each and everyone in the crowd. SheikhKassim had a fiery temper yet he was very forgiving easy to forget a quarreland patch up with whomever he had quarrelled with within a very short period of time talking and laughing with him as if nothing had taken place between them.

Sheikh Kassim was a brilliant orator. That was his greatest gift.

JuliusNyerere came to know Sheikh Kassim's real personality very late in his life and by then it was very late for both of them to retract.

Kassim felt betrayed bythe system he had supported throughout his life and Nyerere regretting why he had built up a monster, a Frankstein which came to devour him happily.

Insha Allah we will come to read about these two interesting characters in the historyof Muslims in Tanzania in the course of events.

Reflecting on Sheikh Kassimafter his death, Mzee Kissinger who had known Kassim since his childhood said,"You have not seen anyone like Kassim, he was in a class of his own."

In those days the dhows anchored at Msasani a fishing village outsideDar es Salaam. From Msasani young Kassim came to Kariakoo Market which was thehub of commercial activities in the municipality.

Dressed in a kanzu andh olding small bundle in his hand which contained his belongings he had no place to go and wasamazed by all those people and cars and buses coming into Kariakoo anddeparting because Karikaoo was the main bus stand for town buses as well as those coming from upcountry.

Kassim had never been to Dar es Salaambefore. Someone noticed the young boy who seemed to be stranded. He questioned him and Kassim told him he had come toDar es Salaam to enrol in amadras.

Kassim was taken to the zawiyya of SheikhUwesu one of the khalifa's of Tariqa Quadiriyya and Sheikh Uwesu enrolled himin his madras.

His father, Mzee Khamis came to Dar es Salaam to look for the boy.

A story is told that when he entered the zawiyya at Gogo Street SheikhUwesu was teaching and Kassim was with the other boys listening to SheikhUwesu. Raising his head Sheikh Uwesu noticed a stranger walking into the zawiyyaand his face resembled young Kassim.

He knew that was the father of the boy hehad recently enrolled. Sheikh Uwesu told Kassim's father that he should nottake the boy back to Bagamoyo but to let him stay at the zawiyya and study.Kassim's father obliged.

Sheikh Kassim assumed a new name at the zawiyya andcame to be known as ''Daruweshi'' and for many years during his youth the name stuck to Sheikh Kassim.[1] Kassimwas not to leave Dar es Salaam and he came to be one of the very prominent personalities and an influential sheikh.

Sheikh Kassim's tariqa leanings in his life can be traced from this period at the Zawiyya of Sheikh Uwesu.

While a student in Pakistan, Sheikh Kassim came into contact with therenowned Muslim scholar, Abu Ala Maudud and the Jamaat Islami.

Sheikh Kassim ascendancy coincided with thepolitical phase in Tanzania when Nyerere was conducting a silent purge againstMuslims in TANU. He had already disposed Mufti Sheikh Hassan bin Amir, Tewa Said Tewa, Sharrif Ahmed Badawiy and others. Muslims were at that time tryingto assert their authority having equal status with Christians and to have influence in the political system.

Nyerere realising that Muslim sentiments against his government could be articulated through Muslim organisations suchas the EAMWS whose patron was the Aga Khan, and Al Jamiatul Islamiyya fi Tanganyika and others Nyerere relied upon Sheikh Kassim to dismantle these organisations and form a national Muslim organisation with indigenous leadership of Muslims supportive to his rule.

The crisis ensued as a result of this threw Muslims in a disarray unprecedented in the history of Tanzania.

The crisis culminated in the formation of NationalMuslim Council of Tanzania known by its Swahili acronym as BAKWATA. The rise of Sheikh Kassim and his attachment to the government and President Nyerere therefore went parallel with detention of very respectable Muslim scholars.

This period was marked by mass arrests of Muslims who Nyerere thought were against his government.

The arrests and detentions were necessary to enableNyerere intimidate the Muslim leadership and in the same vein forge alliancewith new leadership of his own choice.

The purge created a vacuum in the Muslim leadership.

Young Sheikh Kassim and others were led into the hollow space to feel the vacuum and Nyerere put the neceesary intruments of power at their disposal.

And Sheikh Kassim ably rose to the occassion and in Kassim Nyerere had a dependable ally.

(to be continued....)

 

[THE BIG SHOW]

Son...

Huyu hapa Sheikh Kassim.
Mimi nikimjua toka utoto wangu hadi anafariki:

In order to understand the mobilising force behind the Muslim agitationagainst the government particularly in the years when the first Muslimpresident was in office one needs to trace the life of Sheikh Kassim bin Jumabin Khamis the brilliant sheikh of Tanzanian mainland pulpit politics. SheikhKassim bin Juma will go in history as the only sheikh in Tanzania who servedtwo presidents diligently. He protected Nyerere from Muslims by helping him toban the EAMWS and establish BAKWATA and later helped President Mwinyi tocontain and overcome Christian machinations against his leadership. SheikhKassim originating from Bagamoyo as a young man rose to prominence in early1960s soon after returning from studies in Pakistan. As a young boy SheikhKassim ran away from home took a dhow and came to Dar es Salaam. That was inearly 1950s.This daring attitude came to manifest in him in his adult life andcan be seen in the way Sheikh Kassim came to make utterly and equallyunpredictable decisions in his life which not only changed the politics of thetownship but also created problems and misery to many people and the Muslimcommunity as a whole. But yet in this enigma Muslims in the last years of hislife came to benefit from all that was Sheikh Kassim's strange personality. Sheikh Kassim was very approachable yet for those who did not know himhe looked bigger than life. He rubbed shoulders with the mighty of theTanzanian politics and yet the same man was at his at his baraza in Kariakoochatting and exchanging jokes and tit bits with the low of the lowest. Hispersonality whenever he was radiated each and everyone in the crowd. SheikhKassim had a fiery temper yet he was very forgiving easy to forget a quarreland patch up with whomever he had quarrelled with within a very short period oftime talking and laughing with him as if nothing had taken place between them.Sheikh Kassim was a brilliant orator. That was his greatest gift. JuliusNyerere came to know Sheikh Kassim's real personality very late in his life andby then it was very late for both of them to retract. Kassim felt betrayed bythe system he had supported throughout his life and Nyerere regretting why hehad built up a monster, a Frankstein which came to devour him happily. InshaAllah we will come to read about these two interesting characters in the historyof Muslims in Tanzania in the course of events. Reflecting on Sheikh Kassimafter his death, Mzee Kissinger who had known Kassim since his childhood said,"You have not seen anyone like Kassim, he was in a class of his own."In those days the dhows anchored at Msasani a fishing village outsideDar es Salaam. From Msasani young Kassim came to Kariakoo Market which was thehub of commercial activities in the municipality. Dressed in a kanzu andholding small bundle in his hand which contained his belongings he had no place to go and wasamazed by all those people and cars and buses coming into Kariakoo anddeparting because Karikaoo was the main bus stand for town buses as well asthose coming from upcountry. Kassim had never been to Dar es Salaambefore. Someone noticed the young boywho seemed to be stranded. He questioned him and Kassim told him he had come toDar es Salaam to enrol in amadras. Kassim was taken to the zawiyya of SheikhUwesu one of the khalifa's of Tariqa Quadiriyya and Sheikh Uwesu enrolled himin his madras. His father Mzee Khamis came to Dar es Salaam to look for theboy. A story is told that when he entered the zawiyya at Gogo Street SheikhUwesu was teaching and Kassim was with the other boys listening to SheikhUwesu. Raising his head Sheikh Uwesu noticed a stranger walking into the zawiyyaand his face resembled young Kassim. He knew that was the father of the boy hehad recently enrolled. Sheikh Uwesu told Kassim's father that he should nottake the boy back to Bagamoyo but to let him stay at the zawiyya and study.Kassim's father obliged. Sheikh Kassim assumed a new name at the zawiyya andcame to be known as Daruweshi and for many years during his youth this namestuck to Sheikh Kassim.[1] Kassimwas not to leave Dar es Salaam and he came to be one of the very prominentpersonalities and an influential sheikh. Sheikh Kassim's tariqa leanings in hislife can be traced from this period at the Zawiyya of Sheikh Uwesu. While a student in Pakistan, Sheikh Kassim came into contact with therenowned Muslim scholar, Abu Ala Maudud and the Jamaat Islami. Sheikh Kassim ascendancy coincided with thepolitical phase in Tanzania when Nyerere was conducting a silent purge againstMuslims in TANU. He had already disposed Mufti Sheikh Hassan bin Amir, TewaSaid Tewa, Sharrif Ahmed Badawiy and others. Muslims were at that time tryingto assert their authority having equal status with Christians and to haveinfluence in the political system. Nyerere realising that Muslim sentimentsagainst his government could be articulated through Muslim organisations suchas the EAMWS whose patron was the Aga Khan, and Al Jamiatul Islamiyya fi Tanganyika and others Nyerere relied uponSheikh Kassim to dismantle these organisations and form a national Muslimorganisation with indigenous leadership of Muslims supportive to his rule. Thecrisis ensued as a result of this threw Muslims in a disarray unprecedented inthe history of Tanzania. The crisis culminated in the formation of NationalMuslim Council of Tanzania known by its Swahili acronym as BAKWATA. The rise ofSheikh Kassim and his attachment to the government and President Nyereretherefore went parallel with detention of very respectable Muslim scholars.This period was marked by mass arrests of Muslims who Nyerere thought wereagainst his government. The arrests and detentions were necessary to enableNyerere intimidate the Muslim leadership and in the same vein forge alliancewith new leadership of his own choice. The purge created a vacuum in the Muslimleadership.

---

[1]Information fromMzee Kissinger who knew Sheikh Kassim Juma since his youth.

Ahsante sana Moh Said..

Wao wangeyajulia wapi haya??

 

[Mkuu wa chuo]

Ritz,

Huchoki kunichokoza.
Nakuwekea hapa kumbukumbu zangu za miaka ya mwanzo ya 1960.

Tukiishi Lindi Street karibu na International Hotel:

Ally Kleist Sykes and Peter Horace Colmore, Nairobi 1940s

Even in those days Ally Sykes was fluent in English, speaking with a very pleasant accent. Peter Colmore was an English aristocrat his father Major Horace Colmore was also in the army but died in 1937, before the war began in Europe.

Peter Colmore was at that time a Lieutenant and Aide De Camp to General Sir William Platt Commander in Chief of the East African Forces.

Ally Sykes was a Lance Corporal.

That meeting in that record shop was a good omen because later after the war their relationship would evolve around music and the business enterprise they we would build would have music as its basic foundation.

I remember as a young boy visiting Ally Sykes' office at Lindi Street with my father and seeing for the first time huge reel to reel tape deck playing very soothing music behind Ally Sykes' desk.

There were also stacks and stacks of records lying around. The room was air conditioned.

It was also the first time I saw an air condition.

It was one of the nicest rooms I have ever been to and to a young boy of about 10 years it was really something to wonder about.
After the war and general demobilization from the army Ally Sykes disembarked in Mombasa from the ship which was bringing ex service men back home.

It was a “jump ship” of sorts as he was supposed to go to Dar es Salaam.

Ally took a train from Mombasa station to Nairobi to seek for employment.

Ally did not want to go back home.

He had enough experience in Burma fighting the Japanese, he thought he was old enough to look after himself.

Peace had created new opportunities to those who wanted to settle in Kenya including Africans. Ally went to look for Peter Colmore...

(Yako mengi lakini tosheka na haya tushushe hamaki).

duh! Mzee Said ana stori, akipiga na zile za Muhammad Ali hapo lazima umkubali ndio maana kina Spike Lee wanakuja wanasoma na kuondoka...

 

[Webabu]

Generalization aliyosema Mwanakijiji. Maandamano ya kwanza kwenda wapi? Usisahau hapo chini umeweka mabucha ya nguruwe! ukimaanisha maandamano ya kwenda kuvunja mabucha ya nguruwe.

Mimi nasema hapana hayo kama yalikuwepo ni ya pili ya kwanza ni yale ya kwenda kuvunja mabucha yakitokea Kichangani Magomeni, kupitia Morogoro rd, usalama, mwembechai hadi eneo la tukio.

Ninyi mnasema hakukuwa na kitu hicho, tena Mohamed katika kitabu chako umeeeleza jinsi ''youths.... swiftly moved like trained commando''. Nasema si kweli walipita bara barani kuelekea kwenye mabucha.

Hawakugusa jengo lingine isipokuwa kule walikokusudia wao.Ni ukweli mnaufaham lakini basi tu !
Hili lifike mwisho maana tutarudi katika kitabu na kufukua jinsi lilivyokuzwa na kuwekewa nakshi na kupotoshwa.

Nguruvi,
Hivi unaona shida gani kusoma kwa utulivu?

Hiyo nukuu siyo kutoka katika kitabu.

Nguruvi achana na uzushi na ukaidi wa kijinga.

 

[Webabu]

Ha ha ha! Mohamed, tulia wala usiwe na jazba au ghadhabu. Maneno hayo ni uchungu unaokumbana nao.Kaa chini pata funda tatu za maji ujikusanye tena

Nimethibitisha upotoshaji wako 100 times. Recently nimekuonyesha takwimu zako (aibu sana) ambazo mtu mwenye degree aliyezungukwa na wasomi asingethubutu kuziweka hadharani. Umeshindwa kusimama kwa wingi wa jasho.

Nime prove kuhusu hoja za Africa Events na sasa Maandamano achilia mbali huko nyuma uliposepa hoja lukuki.
Nafahamu unaniona kama spoiler wa mission yako. Unajua nasoma between the lines na natumia akili.
Sitegemei neno zuri toka kwako. Mimi siyo gogo vivu! hewala bwana, tawire n.k! siyo lugha ninayoijua.

Ninakuhakikishia kuwa nipo hapa ukienda nje ya mstari nakupeleka katika kona, 100K wanabaki wakisema Ali Bumayeee, Ali Bumayeee! ni jab ukinyanyua kichwa upper cut. ha ha ha

By the way, Kadinali Pengo kesharudi kutoka Rome, nasikia ataitisha Alumni wote wa St Joseph Catholic school wahudhurie semina. Umesha reply kwa ajili ya seat! Nitapinga na kulaani mfumokristo kama hawatakuweka high table.

Miaka 15 ya upotoshaji sasa basi, ni makosa kukaa kimya kizazi kikiendelea kunajisiwa.
That will never happen on my watch.

Hapa unajipa sifa ya jambo ambalo hujafanya!.
Mpaka mwisho kuhusu Afica events hatukuona ulipoproove lolote na kuhusu maandamano ndio kabisa umejichanganya.

 

[Webabu]

Hivo?...Je kitu gani kiliwashinda wazee wako kutwaa madaraka baada juhudi zao kufanikiwa na uhuru kupatikana? Huyo aliyekuja kuwatilia mchanga kwenye kitumbua alitokea wapi tena!

Kitabu chako hakina hadhi wala uhalali wa kuwa shahidi, je ulikuwapo? FYI kitabu chako is just a figment of your own imagination kilichojaa hisia zilizotawaliwa na chuki za kidini.

You can not get any lower than this...umechanganyikiwa. Ulianza kwa kudai ni wazee wako ndio walipigania uhuru wa nchi hii, sasa hili la wazee wetu linatokea wapi?

Hiyo sentensi hapo juu ni ya kijinga na kipimo cha wivu wako.
Mangapi ambayo umeyasoma na kuyaamini.Umekuwa na maswali kama ya Mwanakijiji.
Pamoja na hivyo kama ni kuamua kumsikiliza mzungumzaji basi anayepaswa ni Mohammed na si wewe.

 

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Mohamed,
Asante kwa taarifa hii. Kumbe umeanzia Lutheran Primary School, ukaenda St. Joseph Middle/ Secondary School. Sasa mbona huwaambii akina Ritz humu jukwaani kwamba wewe ni product ya Christian schools? Kwa nini huzungumzii manufaa ya Nyerere kutaifisha shule za misheni ili watu kama wewe nao wanufaike na elimu: matunda ya uhuru wetu? Jana nimeweka humu bandiko makusudi jinsi wakristo wa Ethiopia walivyowafadhili Waislamu waliokuwa wananyanyaswa na wapagani wa Saudi Arabia. Pia kulikuwa na hotuba aliyoitoa Muislamu mbele ya kadamnasi wa Wakatoliki. Lengo langu lilikuwa ni kutaka kujenga kile ambacho unahangaika kukibomoa. Hakuna popote pale kwenye kitabu cha Sivalon aliposema kuwa Uislamu ni uadui wa Wakatoliki. Nimekisoma tena hii wiki iliyopita sikuona madai yao hayo. Historia imeonyesha moyo wa ushirikiano kati ya Wakristo na waislamu. Jinsi mfalme Negus alivyowakaribisha waislamu na kuwahifadhi ndivyo hivyuo hivyo wazee wetu akiwemo Abdulwahid, walivyomkaribisha Julius Nyerere mjini Dar-es-salaam kushiriki katika harakati za kutafuta uhuru wa Tanzania. Ni ushirikiano huo ambao tunapaswa kuujenga na kurithisha watoto wetu na wajukuu wetu. Lakini huko unakoelekea wewe unataka kubomoa halafu sijui kitakachojengwa katika maporomoko hayo kitakuwa ni kitu gani. Nimeona nifunguke kidogo hapa.

Ikiwa shule za waislamu zimenyimwa mafao na kufungiwa kinamna ulitaka asome wapi?.Hiki ni kipimo cha jinsi wazee wa Mohammed walivyothamini elimu.Bila shaka hakupenda asome shule hizo,angependa akasome kule kule walikoanzia wazee wake.
Kuhusu kubomoa na kujenga waulize watu wa mfumo walioshikilia kuvunja kila mafanikio ya waislamu na kuzui kupiga hatua kwa kisingizio cha uchochezi.
Wamepania kufanyia uadui hata historia ya waislamu.

 

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Katika mada hii mimi nimesimama kama mtanzania yeyote anaekereka na upotoshwaji wa Mohamed Said juu ya historia ya nchi yetu, hivyo sijasimama kutetea undugu damu wala maslahi binafsi.

Nimelieleza kwakifupi tu pale juu kuwa pamoja na juhudi kubwa za Idd Faiz Mafongo mweka hazina ea TANU za kukusanya michango ya wanachama kwaajili ya safari hiyo, lakini walioratibu safari hiyo kwakukata tiketi ya ndege yakwenda na kurudi ni kanisa katoliki kupitia shirika la maryknoll sisters la USA chini ya padre Art Wille ambae ni kama vile alimlea Mwalimu.

Yericko,

Hiyo ni safari ya pili 1956 ndiyo kanisa lilitoa tiketi.

Kwa safari ya kwanza 1955 TANU ilikuwa kama mtoto yatima
ilikuwa bado haijakubalika.

Tatizo la hawa wanaoitwa watetezi wa ukweli kuhusu Nyerere wanasema uongo mwingi na wenyewe hawaonani wala kuona haya hata wakisahihishwa.

 

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NYERERE, KARUME WATAJWA KESI YA WAFUASI WA PONDA

Baba wa Taifa, Hayati Mwalimu Julius Nyerere
Shahidi wa utetezi na Mwanzilishi wa Baraza la Misikiti Tanganyika, Bilali Waikela (87), amedai mahakamani katika kesi inayomkabili Sheikh Issa Ponda na wenzake 49, kwamba Baba wa Taifa, Hayati Mwalimu Julius Nyerere na Rais wa kwanza wa Zanzibar, Shekhe Abeid Karume, walivunja Umoja wa Waislamu wa Af...rika Mashiriki.

Waikela alidai kuwa umoja huo ulianzishwa kwa lengo la kuwatetea na kuwasaidia Waislamu na kwamba Tanzania ilipata kiwanja cha Chang’ombe Marcas kutoka kwa aliyekuwa Rais wa Misri.

Waikela ambaye ni shahidi wa 48 wa upande wa utetezi katika kesi hiyo alidai kuwa, umoja huo ulifutwa baada ya Karume kudanganywa kuwa wana mpango wa kufanya mapinduzi na kuwarudisha Waarabu Zanzibar.

“Mwalimu Nyerere ndiye aliyemtuma Karume afanye hivyo na mwaka 1964 nilifungwa baada ya kukataa kupokea Shilingi 40,000 ili nikubali kuvunja umoja huo, na Kassim bin Juma, Adam Simba na Salehe Masasi waliotumiwa kuhamasisha watu kuvunja umoja huo,” alidai.

Alidai kuwa ofisi za umoja huo zilifungwa hadi mwaka 1968 lilipoundwa Baraza la Waislamu Tanzania (Bakwata) na kukabidhiwa ofisi pamoja na mali zote kikiwamo kiwanja cha Chang’ombe markazi kilichokuwa kimejengwa shule ya Waislamu.

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Hii nimeipenda sana.Historia iliyoandikwa imethibitishwa na wahusika walio hai.
Itabaki maswali ya Mwanakijiji Nani alimsikia Waikela?.Jibu sote tumemsikia.
Vijana wanaamini tu hii historia ya Mohammed Said. Jibu hata wazee tumefumbuka na dhulma za Nyerere.

 

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HISTORIA anatoa,tunapata faida surprising enough anaipindapinda ili kukidhi agenda yake ya siri-matokeo yake fanatical blind followers yaani yes man amewapata sana

Wasi wasi wenu tu.
Sisi tumekuwa jeshi lisilo na silaha linalowatisha.Hatujajikusanya kwa wito wa Mohammed pekee bali kwa dhulma mnazotufanyia mmoja mmoja.Tunapata nguvu tukisoma kwa Mohammed kumbe hayakuanza leo wala kwetu pekee.

 

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Hii nimeipenda sana.Historia iliyoandikwa imethibitishwa na wahusika walio hai.
Itabaki maswali ya Mwanakijiji Nani alimsikia Waikela?.Jibu sote tumemsikia.
Vijana wanaamini tu hii historia ya Mohammed Said. Jibu hata wazee tumefumbuka na dhulma za Nyerere.

Ami,

Mie nimesoma vitabu vya Mohamed Said, Dr Ghassany, Dr Issa Ziddy, Proffessor Gary Thomas Burgess na wengineo wengi. Na anachokizungumza Mohamed Said na magwiji hawa historia ni sawa sawa hutakuta tofauti. Worse enough hata events ni sawa sawa. Vile vile sio tu kumsoma Mohamed Said nimekaa na wazee walioishi na historia ya Tanzania mfano mzee wetu Al-marhum Sheikh Nurdin Al-Shadhily (R.A), Mzee wetu Al-Marhum Sayyid Hassan Sheikh (R.A), Mzee wetu Al-Marhum Sayyid Ali Comorian (R.A), Mzee wetu Sayyid Ahmad Badawiy (Nanga iliyobakia). Hawa walikuwa wakiyazungumza na sisi tuliokuwa tunakaa nao tunawasikia (Najua nitamkumbusha mbali Mohamed). Ziada ya Mohamed Said ambayo mmungu atamlipa kwa hilo na zaidi ni kuyachukua na kuyaandika katika kitabu. Na vile vile kuja humu jamvini ndio maana ANATEMBEA HUMU KWA TAMBO NA KUJIDAI KWANI ANAYOYASEMA SISI WASWAHILI WA KARIAKOO TUNAYAJUA SIKU NYINGI NA NI UKWELI MTUPU NA PENYE UKWELI HAKUNA WASIWASI. Sheikh Bilal Rehan Waikela amewasha moto mahakamani . Hii kesi ya Ponda inaweza kuleta mengi mazito

 

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Ami,

Mie nimesoma vitabu vya Mohamed Said, Dr Ghassany, Dr Issa Ziddy, Proffessor Gary Thomas Burgess na wengineo wengi. Na anachokizungumza Mohamed Said na magwiji hawa historia ni sawa sawa hutakuta tofauti. Worse enough hata events ni sawa sawa. Vile vile sio tu kumsoma Mohamed Said nimekaa na wazee walioishi na historia ya Tanzania mfano mzee wetu Al-marhum Sheikh Nurdin Al-Shadhily (R.A), Mzee wetu Al-Marhum Sayyid Hassan Sheikh (R.A), Mzee wetu Al-Marhum Sayyid Ali Comorian (R.A), Mzee wetu Sayyid Ahmad Badawiy (Nanga iliyobakia). Hawa walikuwa wakiyazungumza na sisi tuliokuwa tunakaa nao tunawasikia (Najua nitamkumbusha mbali Mohamed). Ziada ya Mohamed Said ambayo mmungu atamlipa kwa hilo na zaidi ni kuyachukua na kuyaandika katika kitabu. Na vile vile kuja humu jamvini ndio maana ANATEMBEA HUMU KWA TAMBO NA KUJIDAI KWANI ANAYOYASEMA SISI WASWAHILI WA KARIAKOO TUNAYAJUA SIKU NYINGI NA NI UKWELI MTUPU NA PENYE UKWELI HAKUNA WASIWASI. Sheikh Bilal Rehan Waikela amewasha moto mahakamani . Hii kesi ya Ponda inaweza kuleta mengi mazito

Mdondoaji,
Nimefurahi kusikia kuwa wewe ni mtu wa Kariakoo.

Kwa ajili hii uzoefu wetu lazima utashabihiana.
Hawa ndugu zetu wana maradhi.

Bongo zao zimejazwa na propaganda kuwa sisi Waswahili
si lolote.

Ndiyo maana kila lililojepesi kwetu likifika kwao linawashtua.

Nimewaambia Abdu Sykes katengeneza Political Subcomittee 1950
na ndiyo iliyoibua TANU 1954 wameshtuka wanasema Nyerere,
Nyerere, Nyerere...

Nawaambia ile hotuba ya Nyerere 1955 UNO utaipata katika mapendekezo
ya katiba yaliyoandikwa na Political Subcommittee 1950 hapo ndipo wazimu
unawapanda.

Mie nikiona haya mambo mepesi tu wazee wetu wamefanya na alipokuja Nyerere
kayakuta.

Wao hawataki wanataka yote hayo tuyafute kama vile hayakuwapo.

Umenikumbusha mbali sana kunitajia watu wangu.

Hivi karibuni Sayyid Hussein Badawiy kaja mtaani kwetu kwenye Maulid
ya Abshy.

Ilikuwa raha juu ya raha.
Kweli yeye ni nanga.

Nina picha nyingi nimempiga Sharifu Hussein Lamu kwenye maulid.
Ahsante sana.