Uchochezi wa Mohamed Said na dhihaka kwa Wapigania Uhuru wa Tanganyika na Zanzibar
Uchochezi wa Mohamed Said na dhihaka kwa Wapigania Uhuru wa Tanganyika na Zanzibar
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Nicholas
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Kwani itasaidia nini kumwokoa MS ktk njozi zake...alishajiona ni mwandisi wa habari za kihistoria na tafiti.
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Mwalimu nyerere mwenyewe amesikika akisema kwamba katika kugombania uhuru wa tanganyika, wakiristo walikuwa wawili tu, yeye Nyerere na Paul Rupia kama sikosei
Pili padri Munishi anasema serikali ya tanzania inauwa waislamu, nasema huyo ni padri anayesema hivo sio sheikh
tazama video hiyo
TANZANIA SERIKALI INAUA WAISLAMU - YouTube
Pili padri Munishi anasema serikali ya tanzania inauwa waislamu, nasema huyo ni padri anayesema hivo sio sheikh
tazama video hiyo
TANZANIA SERIKALI INAUA WAISLAMU - YouTube
Nicholas
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NIlikuambia logic yako hata ukimpa fisi n appetite yake kubwa bado anaweza kosa makombo ya kula nyikani...
-Unaanza kwa kusema mwingine hajui, halafu una assume wewe ndio unajua halafu una conclude kitu kingine.
KM NI MWEKA HAZINA KUNA HAJA GANI YA HISTORIA YA TANU WAKATI ALITOA HELA YA OFFICE KWA AJILI YA KAZI ZA OFFICE.
sifa gani mlikuwa mnataka apewe sasa km si wenda wazimu?Km boss wa office anakwenda safari ya muhimu kwa office na inayokubalika na office nani angemzuia kuchukua fungu?Au jamaa angekwenda muuliza nani tena wakati.Chama kilisharidhia safari?
Tayari na hizo mmeona ni zake?Ndio maana mnamwabudu JK kwa miradi inayogharamiwa kwa Kodi na rasilimali za nchi.Mnamtaja JK kuliko Mwenyezi Mungu,achilia mbali watendaji na raia watoka jasho ktk kila mradi wa serikali.Mmesishia walaumu watendani JK anaposhindwa,ila mnamsifia pakifanyika jema.Bila kujua ni hao hao watendaji..
Kwanini na hapo msimpe Nyerere Sifa zake ktk hiyo safari ya Kihistoria hata km mnavyompa JK kwa miradi ambayo yeye huletewa tuu taarifa.
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ha haa ha, Mohamed Said, wala haitaji kuokolewa na mtu yoyote kitabu chake ndiyo kinaongea.
Mohamed Said, ni "GOAT" Greatest of all time, ha haa ha leo hii yupo JF mwezi wa 6 anasomesha kitabu chake.
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Nicholas
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Kwa standards za madrassat hujakosea ni Goat....km anatunza midevu pia si mbaya mkamwita goat.
Mohamed Said
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Nicholas,
Profile yangu ni hii:
BOOKS
2. Torch on Kilimanjaro, Oxford University Press, Nairobi 2006
3. Contributing author African Anthology, The Mermaid of Msambweni, Oxford University Press, 2008 Nairobi
4. Uamuzi wa Busara, Abantu Publications, Dar es Salaam, 2009
PART OF RESEARCH PAPERS/ARTICLES
1. In Praise of Ancestors (1987) Africa Events (London).
2. Abdulwahid Sykes: Founder of Political Movement (1988) Africa Events (London).
3. Islam and Politics in Tanzania (1989) Al Haq International (Karachi)
4. The Plight of Tanzanian Muslim (1993) Change (Dar es Salaam).
5. Tanzania - The "Secular" Unsecular State (1995) Change (Dar es Salaam).
6. The Question of Muslim Stagnation in Education in Tanzania - A Muslim Riddle (Paper presented at the Conference of the Global World of the Swahili Intercultural Dialogue on the Indian Ocean Zanzibar, February 20 - 23, 2003).
7. Islamic Education and Intellectualism in Eastern Africa ‘Themes from the Pulpit in Tanganyika (Tanzania Mainland) 1800 – 2000' (Paper presented at International Symposium on Islamic Civilisation in Eastern Africa Kampala, Uganda organised by the Islamic Conference Research Centre for Islamic History, Art and Culture (IRCICA), Istanbul and the Islamic University in Uganda, Mbale December 15[SUP]th[/SUP] – 17[SUP]th[/SUP] 2003).
8. Sheikh Hassan bin Ameir - The Moving Spirit of Muslim Emancipation in Tanganyika (1950 – 1968) (Paper presented at Youth Camp Organised by Zanzibar University, World Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY) and Tanzania Muslim Students Association (TAMSA) 27[SUP]th[/SUP] February – 4[SUP]th[/SUP] March 2004).
9. Islamic Movement and the Christian Lobby in Tanzania - the Experience of the late Prof. Kighoma Ali Malima (1938 – 1995) (Paper Presented to Tanzania Muslim Students Association (TAMSA) Sokoine University of Agriculture (SUA) Morogoro 11[SUP]th[/SUP] April 2004).
10. Terrorism in East Africa the Tanzanian Experience (Paper Presented at the Conference on Islam, Terrorism and African Development University of Ibadan, Nigeria 8[SUP]th[/SUP] - 10th February 2006).
11. The Legacy of Sheikh Ahmed Deedat (Paper Presented at International Symposium on Islamic Civilisation in Southern Africa, University of Johannesburg 1 - 3 September, 2006 (the paper was again presented to Islamic Propagation Centre International, Durban).
12.Visiting Scholar, University of Iowa, Iowa City and Northwestern University, Chicago, Illinois, USA, Presented paper ''Islam and Politics in Tanzania,'' April 2011
13. Visiting Researcher Zentrum Moderner Orient (ZMO), Berlin Germany, Presented Paper Christian Hegemony and the Rise of Muslim Militancy in Tanzania, July 2011.
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Ni bahati mbaya iliyoje,
Wanajamvi wengi hapa hawajavisoma vitabu husika vinavyojadiliwa hapa, wewe ukiwemo!
Nicholas
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vipi kambona, Kyaruzi,na wengine.....km wamisionary waliokuwa nyuma yake kwa kiasi cha kuwafanya waisngereza wasifanye majaribio ya kumdhuru?Pia ujue Nyerere mwenyewe alifanya kikubwa zaidi ya wote kwa pamoja.Sasa sijui idadi itakusaidia nini?
Mohamed Said
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Gombesugu,
Mwenyezi Mungu ni mkubwa.
Hata siku moja sikutegemea kuwa nitakuja kupata uwanja mpana kama huu.
Mimi nitoe darsa kwa watu 200,000+ wakae wakinisikiliza nawaeleza mambo
ambayo wao hata siku moja hawakujaaliwa kuyasikia.
Kitu ambacho sikukitegemea nilipoanza kusomesha ni kuwa kuna watu wengi
wataghadhibika.
Hili sikulitarajia hata kidogo.
Yericko Nyerere
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Ndugu acha uongo!
Unawasomesha watu 200000+?? Hao wamekuambia kuwa wapo hapa kwa dhamana ya wewe tu?
Unajichanganya sana na hujui usimamie wapi!
Jana tu hapa umemwambia Nguruvi3 kuwa upo hapa kujifunza mapya mengi tu,
Lakini leo unaendeleza mchezo wako wa eti unawafundisha watu wote wanaosoma uzi huu??????
Nikuulize,
1)Ulijua ushiriki wa kanisa katika harakati za ukombozi ikiwemo kupitia Maryknoll Sister?
2)Ulijua ushirikiano imara wa Wakristu na Waislamu enzi za kupigania uhuru chini ya Kasisi Maranta na Shehe Issa Bin Amir?
Je hayo ni maya kwako au uliyajua kabla?
Mohamed Said
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Son of Alaska,
Pale soko la Kariakoo upande ule wa Mkunguni na Swahili zamani sana
katika 1950/60 sie wadogo kulibandikwa mabango mawili yenye picha
za mtu na baiskeli.
Moja ilikuwa mtu kapanda Raleigh anakimbizwa na simba na simba huyo
kaachwa kwa mbali na mpanda baiskeli amegeuza shingo anamtazama
kamnyooshea kidole.
Hili lilikuwa tangazo la Raleigh.
Nadhani jibu umelipata.
Swala na aina nyingine zilichelewa kuingia Tanganyika.
Tangazo la pili lilikuwa linaonyesha mwizi kaiba baiskeli anakimbia.
Basi sie tulimpa jina yule mwizi tukamuita Fulani jina la mwizi bingwa
wa baiskeli siku hizo.
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Yericko,
Welcome to the show...
Ladies and Gentlemen a big hand for Yericko Nyerere.
Nicholas
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Kabla ya mengine hembu iwekee maelezo haijisemi kwanini ipo hapa.....kwani tukiichambua utapat aibu.
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Kabla ya mengine hembu iwekee maelezo haijisemi kwanini ipo hapa.....sipendi ichambua kwani yenyewe si mada..
Yericko,
Nisingependa asilan kukurubisha malumbano nawe. Kila siku ikipita hapa jamvini nagundua vingi mno kuhusu wewe binafsi!
Masuali mengi mno kuhusu hiyo "Historia yako" mpaka sasa hutaki/umegoma kuyajibu!?
Takriban nusu mwaka uko hapa jamvini unatoa mahubiri kama vile Kasisi, lakini unapoulizwa sources/vigezo vyako...pia hamna kitu!?...na wanatokea viwavi fulani ati kukutetea na kukukingia kifua!ahaha!!
Kitabu chako cha khadithi za ugaidi, kwa kifupi ni uozo na utumbo mwingine wa kutia aibu hili Taifa letu! Si unadai wa-Amerika ndo wafadhili na walistaajabishwa na ule utumbo wako na khasa pale walipokuona...kwenye ule "mkutano wenu wa Mbutu",sasa ulishawahi kujiuliza au kuwauliza hao wa-Amerika kwanini walipatwa na staajaba kubwa mno!?ahaha!!
Hapa umeshakuja jamvini,kututangazia yakuwa una party ya ku-smoke weed ati wewe dini yako ni Rastafari...unajidanganya kila kukicha sisi soote tunajua yakuwa wewe na group yako mpo hapa kwa ile Crusade yenu takatifu.
Leo asubuhi unadai hata wale "wavumbuzi wenu" wazungu yakuwa woote ati ni Majini na wamelaanika...huku ukinukuu kitabu kitakatifu cha Bible!?
Umeshawahi kuleta story ya Tanu na yule Mzee wako wa bandia wa kizaramo na wakti huo huo ukimgeuza mvuvi huku akiwa na miaka takribani 90!...akafa khalafu ukamfufua tena na kuonekana kwenye mikutano ya Tanu!?
Kwa kifupi wewe mtoto wa Kihehe ni janga kubwa la Taifa na Chadema.
Nataka nikipata fursa nimwandikie rasmi Padri Daktari Slaa,akufukuze kabisa kwenye chama chake.
Na kule Mbutu unakoishi tutaongea na yule Diwani pale Mzee ali Simba ili ufukuzwe na kile kibanda kinachokustiri tutamwomba Mzee Sabodo Mfadhili wa Chadema na kada wa CCM,aje akinunue na wewe upate senti kiduchu za kwenda kuanzia maisha na kufungua genge pale kwenu Makambako!!!
Maisha ya mjini yameshakushinda,na sisi wanamji/wana Mzizima tumeshakuchoka. Kama kuna watakaokuonea huruma basi wakuchukue wao huko mikoani kwao. Lakini tafadhali usijaribu wala kuthubutu asilan kugusa Tanga, Pare au Arusha!
Jana umefanza khitimisho kubwa mno...yaani umeleta mambo ya ndani na Wifey wako na kuja nayo kumuumbua hapa jamvini...nafikiri maskini ikamlazim mpaka The Big Show aingilie kati na kukunasihi!?
Yericko,wakti najiunga hapa jamvini/Jf nilkua nakustahi mno ndugu yangu lakini umeniangusha mno. Kama hutojali nakusihi jirekebishe japo kiduchu.
Narudia tena Yericko wewe ni janga kwa Taifa!
Ahsanta.
Cc;Ritz,The Big Show
Mohamed Said
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Yericko,
Huenda hii hapa chini ikakumbusha jambo.
Hii mada nimeitoa Zentrum Moderner Orient (ZMO) Berlin, 2011 kwa mwaliko makhsus.
Nakunyambulia mukadima ''opening'' yangu.
History in Revision
But what usually thrills Muslims and utterly significant showing that times have changed is when in the rallies and in normal discussion Muslims refer to Nyerere hitherto known respectfully as "Baba wa Taifa" as "Baba wa Kanisa," meaning "Church Elder."[1] The move by the Catholic Church to make him a saint has not helped matters. More so it proves all the allegations levelled against Nyerere that he never was a nationalist but a Catholic zealot.
Respect and love which Muslims once had for Nyerere has been completely wiped out. The new generation of Muslims no longer believe in the official history of TANU and the propaganda that it was Nyerere who single handed defeated the British. Muslims instead are honouring the forgotten heroes of independence movement and in so doing invoking emotions particularly in the new generation to stand up against oppression as their forefathers had done against Germans and the British.
Muslim heroes of the Maji Maji War like Suleiman Mamba, Ali Songea Mbano,[2] and Muslim nationalists like Abdulwahid [3] and Ally Sykes,[4] Dossa Aziz, Sheikh Hassan bin Amir,[5] Sheikh Suleiman Takadir, Sheikh Yusuf Badi, Bibi Titi Mohamed,[6] Bibi Tatu bint Mzee, Bilali Rehani Waikela,[7] Ali Migeyo[8] and others are now part of nationalist history which was suppressed for many years.[9] Muslims are demanding the restoration of their history and honour as true liberators of Tanganyika. This is unprecedented. One can only speculate and wonder where this would lead to.
Can we identify this phenomenon as corrective and revision of history or is it a lesson of anarchy in recording history?[10] The result of all this is that the Church has been made to stand naked. That the Church did not play any role during Maji Maji[11] or during the struggle against the British or that it has worked hand in hand with the government to sabotage Islam and Muslims is now common knowledge.
[1]The late Prof. Haroub Othman after reading Sheikh Ali Muhsin's book Conflict and Harmony in Zanzibar and the writer's book The Life and Times of Abdulwahid Sykes 1924 -1968 The Untold Story of the Muslim Struggle Against British Colonialism in Tanganyika, Minerva Press, London 1998 and having come across hitherto unknown information on Nyerere was devastated because he was a great admirer of Nyerere as a patriot and a nationalist. The two books had painted him differently. Prof. Haroub confronted Nyerere and told him that the allegations in those two works have tarnished his image and he advised him to respond to them. Nyerere never did. Christian lecturers at Dar es Salaam University are discouraging students from making references to those two books. Dr. Harith Ghassany's book Kwaheri Ukoloni Kwaheri Uhuru, has also come up with more information on Nyerere hitherto unknown in the Zanzibar Revolution and the bloodbath which followed.
[2]In all historical references to Maji Maji War hero and Chief of Wangoni Ali Songea Mbano, his Muslim name "Ali" would be omitted and he would be referred to as Songea Mbano.
[3] Mohamed Said, The Life and Times of Abdulwahid Sykes (1924 –1968), The Untold Story of the Muslim Struggle Against British Colonialism in Tanganyika Minerva Publishers, London, 1998.
[4]Mohamed Said, Broken Dreams, The Life of Ally Kleist Sykes, Phoenix Publishers, Nairobi 2011 (Forthcoming).
[5]Issa Ziddy, Sheikh Hassan bin Ameir (1880-1979). Also See Mohamed Said, "Sheikh Hassan bin Ameir - The Moving Spirit of Muslim Emancipation in Tanganyika (1950 – 1968)" (Paper presented at Youth Camp Organised by Zanzibar University, World Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY) and Tanzania Muslim Students Association (TAMSA) 27[SUP]th[/SUP] February – 4[SUP]th[/SUP] March 2004.
[6]Bibi Titi was recruited into TANU by Schneider Abdillah Plantan and began to mobilize people particularly women to join the party even before he came to know Nyerere.
[7]Bilali Rehani Waikela one of the TANU founder members in Western Province in 1955 and Regional Secretary of the East African Muslim Welfare Society (EAMWS) was detained by Nyerere in 1964 for "mixing religion and politics." His personal papers were of great help in understanding the EAMWS crisis of 1968 and the reasons why Nyerere detained prominent sheikhs banned and the society in 1968. A documentary of his political life has been made and although not officially recognized as a patriot Muslims now consider him as one of the heroes of the independence movement. For more information see Mohamed Said, "In Praise of Ancestors," Africa Events (London) March/April 1977.
[8] G. Mutahaba, Portrait of a Nationalist: The Life of Ali Migeyo, East African Publishing House, 1969.
[9] Maji Maji Museum in Songea which has been greatly desecrated removing all signs of Muslim symbols during the Maji Maji War with Germans. The Maji Maji Museum at Peramiho under the Catholic Church has closed its doors to young Muslims for fear of criticism for distorting history. All Muslim symbols in Maji Maji War against Germans have been obliterated in the Maji Maji Museum.
[10] A children's book authored by the current writer, Torch on Kilimanjaro, Oxford University Press, Nairobi, 2007 has been blacklisted and cannot be included as a reader in schools because it contravenes the official history.
[11]Yusuf Halimoja, Historia ya Masasi, East African Literature Bureau, Nairobi, 1977 pp 163 175 gives a narration how Christians fought alongside Gerrmans during Maji Maji. Also see P. Gerold Rupper, OSB, Pugu Hadi Peramiho: Miaka 100 wa Wamishionari Wabenediktini Katika Tanzania, Benedictine Publications, Ndanda Peramiho, 1980, pp 31- 42.
Nicholas
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Hii ndio shida ya kuwapa mtandao ambao hawajatoka ktk kupeana taarifa kwa midomo ktk vibaraza vya gahawa.NImekuambia ."Km viwango ni vya madrassa lazima umuone ni GOAT" pia kama anaendekeza midevu km mbuzi si mbaya akaitwa hivyo.Sasa wewe unaleta habari za eneo ktk picture.
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Nicholas,
Hutokeaa mtu ukasoma kwa haraka na ''gist'' ikakupita.
Haya humtokea kila mtu wala si jambo geni.
Hebu jitulize soma tena kipande hiki:
''Halikadhalika najua itakuwa tabu kwako kuamini kuwa Rashid Ali Meli bila ya
kumshauri yoyote alichukua fedha kwenye safe ya ofisi yake Dar es Salaam
Municipal Council akampelekea Iddi Faizi Mafongo ili atunishe mfuko wa safari
ya kwanza ya Nyerere UNO 1954.''