Uhuru na Raila waanza majadiliano kimya ya jinsi ya kugawana

Uhuru na Raila waanza majadiliano kimya ya jinsi ya kugawana

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Dah... Siasa unafiki tu, halafu mijitu tunacharangana mapanga kwa ujinga, sasa jamaa waanza majadiliano ya kimya kimya jinsi ya kugawana nyadhifa nyingi za kiserikali zikiwemo mabalozi, mawaziri, wakuu wa mashirika upumbavu tu.

Nia ya kushindana kwenye uchaguzi ni nini haswa.

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President Uhuru Kenyatta is reaching out to opposition chief Raila Odinga for a political deal to save the country from deepening division.

Details emerged the day before Uhuru and DP William Ruto are to be inaugurated for their final five-year terms and Raila plans what could be a hugely overshadowing, distracting and embarrassing parallel event at the same time.

As Raila's event has been banned, confrontation with police is likely.

The olive branch actually several branches were extended in two meetings over the weekend by National Assembly Majority Leader Adan Duale to Raila's elder brother Oburu Odinga, sources close to the discussions have told the Star. There were a flurry of emissaries.

Oburu confirmed the two meetings to the Star and said Duale had sent a personal message to Raila. He declined to discuss it.

The peace offerings also come with conditions publicly recognise Uhuru as the legitimately elected President, tone down NASA's anti-government activities and call off the rally today.

NASA's prayer event is supposed to memorialise victims of police violence during opposition marches and protests.

“If Raila accepts the proposal, the President himself will get involved in the negotiations,” a source familiar with the intrigues told the Star.

There was no word on Raila's response but the rally was said to be on, though the proposals were said to be under consideration by the former Prime Minister and his lieutenants.

The Jubilee proposals:

1) Raila's lieutenants would receive at least two Cabinet posts and four slot for Principal Secretaries for the NASA leader;

2) NASA would be given influential parastatal jobs and diplomatic appointments;

3) Jubilee would use its majority in Parliament to unconditionally approve Oburu and Kalonzo Muyoka's son Kennedy as members of the East African Legislative Assembly;

4) Jubilee would donate one of its own six EALA slots to Musalia Mudavadi's ANC. The ANC and Ford Kenya are not entitled to any EALA seats because of their small representation in Parliament;

5) Uhuru himself will personally be involved in negotiations if Raila accepts.

By yesterday, there were signals the icy Jubilee-NASA relationship had begun to thaw.

Raila's full security detail of 12 officers were to be reinstated by close of business yesterday. Security for co-principals Kalonzo and Moses Wetang'ula was also to be restored.

The security details were withdrawn on September 27 as NASA began demonstrations to push out IEBC officials they blamed for bungling the August 8 polls.

In an interview with the Star yesterday, Oburu, the former Bondo lawmaker also said Duale had sent a message to Raila.

“And he [Duale] was also trying to see if there is anything that I can talk to my brother [Raila] about. But I told him, that it's better President Uhuru reaches out directly to Raila. Not through me,” Oburu said.

“You know political temperatures are high, so naturally, as a stalwart of Jubilee, from all angles, he would want the temperatures to cool," Oburu said.

The inauguration will be attended by 100,000 people, including heads of state and government or their representatives. It will start at 9am and Kenyatta will deliver a speech outlining his vision and how he plans to unite a divided country.

Over the weekend, there was a flurry of events by various emissaries, racing against time to get NASA and Jubilee to initiate some form of dialogue.

Sources close to the discussions tell the Star the first meeting was on Friday at Duale's office and the second was at the private Parklands Sports club.

Yesterday, Oburu, a prominent and respected member of the Jaramogi Oginga family, said in an interview,

“Duale is my friend. Even on Friday, I went to his office. I was campaigning for an EALA seat. You have to reach out to everybody, so I was looking for his support.

During the discussions, it's said Duale demanded NASA calls off today's rally and prayer gathering.

The NASA event has been banned by police, however, it is expected to take place somewhere, probably just a few kilometres from Uhuru's swearing in ceremony at Kasarani.

NASA has pledged to push anti-government activities, including civil disobedience, boycotts and People's Assemblies in the counties.

The opposition initially insisted it would swear in Raila as the People's President today. However, Raila rejected the idea on Saturday at Maanzoni, disappointing many hardliners and other supporters.

By late last evening, NASA insisted its planned and banned rally at Jacaranda grounds was still on.

It was not clear whether Raila had rejected the overtures or talks were still at an early stage.

The Jubilee government fears the NASA rally could overshadow the swearing-in ceremony.

At least 11 heads of state are expected to attend Uhuru's coronation as the state is determined to demonstrate global acceptance despite controversy that marred the August 8 General Election and the October 26 rerun.

On Sunday, the President publicly reached out to the opposition in an apparent call for dialogue.

Speaking at Redeemed Gospel Church in Huruma, Uhuru asked the opposition to save Kenyans from political confrontation, adding the country should now come together.

“Na hata naomba wale tulishindana na wao. Hakuna haja sasa ya kusumbua mwananchi. Mwananchi ametimiza yake. Sisi tuje sasa tukae na tupange yale ambayo twataka kutendea Kenya. (And I ask my competitors that there is no need to disturb citizens. The citizens did their part. We should now come together, sit and plan what we want to do for Kenya,” Uhuru said..

On August 11, in his acceptance speech after the botched August 8 poll, Uhuru appealed directly to Raila.

"To my brother Mr Odinga, I reach out to you. I reach out to all your supporters and all those who were elected on opposition benches, and say that we shall work together, partner and grow this country together," Uhuru said

"I extend a hand of friendship, cooperation, and a promise to partner to work together to succeed. And Kenyans want us to succeed."

Source: Oburu meets Uhuru team for unity deal with Raila
 
Wagawane kwenye Urais kila mmoja atawale miaka miwili na nusu hapo haki itakuwa imetendeka.
 
Dah... Siasa unafiki tu, halafu mijitu tunacharangana mapanga kwa ujinga, sasa jamaa waanza majadiliano ya kimya kimya jinsi ya kugawana nyadhifa nyingi za kiserikali zikiwemo mabalozi, mawaziri, wakuu wa mashirika....upumbavu tu.

Nia ya kushindana kwenye uchaguzi ni nini haswa....
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President Uhuru Kenyatta is reaching out to opposition chief Raila Odinga for a political deal to save the country from deepening division.

Details emerged the day before Uhuru and DP William Ruto are to be inaugurated for their final five-year terms and Raila plans what could be a hugely overshadowing, distracting and embarrassing parallel event at the same time.

Related: Security tight hours to Uhuru's swearing-in, 60,000 expected

As Raila's event has been banned, confrontation with police is likely.

The olive branch actually several branches were extended in two meetings over the weekend by National Assembly Majority Leader Adan Duale to Raila's elder brother Oburu Odinga, sources close to the discussions have told the Star. There were a flurry of emissaries.

Oburu confirmed the two meetings to the Star and said Duale had sent a personal message to Raila. He declined to discuss it.

The peace offerings also come with conditions publicly recognise Uhuru as the legitimately elected President, tone down NASA's anti-government activities and call off the rally today.

NASA's prayer event is supposed to memorialise victims of police violence during opposition marches and protests.

“If Raila accepts the proposal, the President himself will get involved in the negotiations,” a source familiar with the intrigues told the Star.

There was no word on Raila's response but the rally was said to be on, though the proposals were said to be under consideration by the former Prime Minister and his lieutenants.

The Jubilee proposals:

1) Raila's lieutenants would receive at least two Cabinet posts and four slot for Principal Secretaries for the NASA leader;

2) NASA would be given influential parastatal jobs and diplomatic appointments;

3) Jubilee would use its majority in Parliament to unconditionally approve Oburu and Kalonzo Muyoka's son Kennedy as members of the East African Legislative Assembly;

4) Jubilee would donate one of its own six EALA slots to Musalia Mudavadi's ANC. The ANC and Ford Kenya are not entitled to any EALA seats because of their small representation in Parliament;

5) Uhuru himself will personally be involved in negotiations if Raila accepts.

By yesterday, there were signals the icy Jubilee-NASA relationship had begun to thaw.

Raila's full security detail of 12 officers were to be reinstated by close of business yesterday. Security for co-principals Kalonzo and Moses Wetang'ula was also to be restored.

The security details were withdrawn on September 27 as NASA began demonstrations to push out IEBC officials they blamed for bungling the August 8 polls.

In an interview with the Star yesterday, Oburu, the former Bondo lawmaker also said Duale had sent a message to Raila.

“And he [Duale] was also trying to see if there is anything that I can talk to my brother [Raila] about. But I told him, that it's better President Uhuru reaches out directly to Raila. Not through me,” Oburu said.

“You know political temperatures are high, so naturally, as a stalwart of Jubilee, from all angles, he would want the temperatures to cool," Oburu said.

The inauguration will be attended by 100,000 people, including heads of state and government or their representatives. It will start at 9am and Kenyatta will deliver a speech outlining his vision and how he plans to unite a divided country.

Over the weekend, there was a flurry of events by various emissaries, racing against time to get NASA and Jubilee to initiate some form of dialogue.

Sources close to the discussions tell the Star the first meeting was on Friday at Duale's office and the second was at the private Parklands Sports club.

Yesterday, Oburu, a prominent and respected member of the Jaramogi Oginga family, said in an interview,

“Duale is my friend. Even on Friday, I went to his office. I was campaigning for an EALA seat. You have to reach out to everybody, so I was looking for his support.

During the discussions, it's said Duale demanded NASA calls off today's rally and prayer gathering.

The NASA event has been banned by police, however, it is expected to take place somewhere, probably just a few kilometres from Uhuru's swearing in ceremony at Kasarani.

NASA has pledged to push anti-government activities, including civil disobedience, boycotts and People's Assemblies in the counties.

The opposition initially insisted it would swear in Raila as the People's President today. However, Raila rejected the idea on Saturday at Maanzoni, disappointing many hardliners and other supporters.

By late last evening, NASA insisted its planned and banned rally at Jacaranda grounds was still on.

It was not clear whether Raila had rejected the overtures or talks were still at an early stage.

The Jubilee government fears the NASA rally could overshadow the swearing-in ceremony.

At least 11 heads of state are expected to attend Uhuru's coronation as the state is determined to demonstrate global acceptance despite controversy that marred the August 8 General Election and the October 26 rerun.

On Sunday, the President publicly reached out to the opposition in an apparent call for dialogue.

Speaking at Redeemed Gospel Church in Huruma, Uhuru asked the opposition to save Kenyans from political confrontation, adding the country should now come together.

“Na hata naomba wale tulishindana na wao. Hakuna haja sasa ya kusumbua mwananchi. Mwananchi ametimiza yake. Sisi tuje sasa tukae na tupange yale ambayo twataka kutendea Kenya. (And I ask my competitors that there is no need to disturb citizens. The citizens did their part. We should now come together, sit and plan what we want to do for Kenya,” Uhuru said..

On August 11, in his acceptance speech after the botched August 8 poll, Uhuru appealed directly to Raila.

"To my brother Mr Odinga, I reach out to you. I reach out to all your supporters and all those who were elected on opposition benches, and say that we shall work together, partner and grow this country together," Uhuru said

"I extend a hand of friendship, cooperation, and a promise to partner to work together to succeed. And Kenyans want us to succeed."
Oburu meets Uhuru team for unity deal with Raila
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Wakikuyu hawa hawataki kabisa kumuachia mjaluo kushika nchi...... Na huyo Ruto acha atumike tu 2022 ataipata Fresh naona bado hajajua wakikuyu vizuri
Wewe mwenyewe huwajui wakikuyu vizuri. Kura za wakikuyu pekee haziwezi kufanikisha kumfikisha mkikuyu ikulu. Rudi kwa informer wako wa umbea vijiweni akuelimishe upya.
 
Wewe mwenyewe huwajui wakikuyu vizuri. Kura za wakikuyu pekee haziwezi kufanikisha kumfikisha mkikuyu ikulu. Rudi kwa informer wako wa umbea vijiweni akuelimishe upya.
Haaahaaaa najua sana si ndio maana wanamtumia Ruto kupata kura za rift valley kma wamgekuwa wanatosha wasingeweza kuungana na mtu aliyewachinja Wakikuyu kma kuku

Kwa ufupi wako radhi washirikiane na wakalenjin wa gideon Moi kuliko huyo ruto kibaraka wenu
 
Wakikuyu hawa hawataki kabisa kumuachia mjaluo kushika nchi...... Na huyo Ruto acha atumike tu 2022 ataipata Fresh naona bado hajajua wakikuyu vizuri

Ruto hawezi tumika unavyofikiria, fahamu hajafika hapo alipo kwa kupewa tu, ni mjanja wa kisiasa. Unafaa ujifunze mambo ya kisiasa ili uwache kukurupuka, siasa ni maslahi na jinsi unacheza karata zako ili uwe indispensable, maana usipokua makini utatumiwa na kutupwa mbali.

Ruto ni mwanasiasa muhimu na mjanja, Raila huwa anajutia sana kumtumia na kumtupa maana ni huyo Ruto ambaye amekamata pembe za Raila leo hii. Isingekua Ruto, Raila angepata kura za Wakalenjin maelfu na maelfu na kama Uhuru angethubutu kuiba, basi hapangekalika maana Raila akipata fursa ya kutumia vijana wa Kikalenjin tunaisha.

Leo hii Ruto amecheza michezo ya kuhakikisha viongozi wanaoendana naye ndio wamechaguliwa maeneo mengi hata kule Ukikuyuni, hivyo narejelea, ni mwanasiasa anayejua jinsi ya kuchakarika na kutumia mikakati.

Siasa ni maslahi, nakumbuka Chadema akina Mbowe walikua wanamtukana sana Lowassa wakati akiwa CCM, na alipoingia kwao, wakabadilisha wimbo, nao CCM wakabadilisha na kuanza kumtukana huyo Lowassa. Hebu ona CCM wanavyomtukana Nyalandu baada ya kuwahama juzi na pia Chadema wanavyomsifia huyo Nyalandu leo hii. Siasa usipokua makini nazo, zitakupa presha bure.

Nape Nnauye alikua na kiherehere sana ndani ya CCM, alitumika kuwatukana wapinzani kila siku, juzi tumeona akitolewa nje kwa bastola.

Rais Uhuru hana budi ila kumkumbatia Ruto maana jamaa anajua jinsi ya kupenyeza, kwanza Ruto ameanza mikakati mikali ya kuusaka urais wa 2022, tayari keshaanza kuongea na magavana wa Raila, sasa hivi ana kila uwezo wa kufanya maandalizi ndani ya miaka mitano, na binafsi ninayo uhakika ataongoza hii nchi, hamna njia rahisi ya kumzuia.
 
Ruto hawezi tumika unavyofikiria, fahamu hajafika hapo alipo kwa kupewa tu, ni mjanja wa kisiasa. Unafaa ujifunze mambo ya kisiasa ili uwache kukurupuka, siasa ni maslahi na jinsi unacheza karata zako ili uwe indispensable, maana usipokua makini utatumiwa na kutupwa mbali.

Ruto ni mwanasiasa muhimu na mjanja, Raila huwa anajutia sana kumtumia na kumtupa maana ni huyo Ruto ambaye amekamata pembe za Raila leo hii. Isingekua Ruto, Raila angepata kura za Wakalenjin maelfu na maelfu na kama Uhuru angethubutu kuiba, basi hapangekalika maana Raila akipata fursa ya kutumia vijana wa Kikalenjin tunaisha.

Leo hii Ruto amecheza michezo ya kuhakikisha viongozi wanaoendana naye ndio wamechaguliwa maeneo mengi hata kule Ukikuyuni, hivyo narejelea, ni mwanasiasa anayejua jinsi ya kuchakarika na kutumia mikakati.

Siasa ni maslahi, nakumbuka Chadema akina Mbowe walikua wanamtukana sana Lowassa wakati akiwa CCM, na alipoingia kwao, wakabadilisha wimbo, nao CCM wakabadilisha na kuanza kumtukana huyo Lowassa. Hebu ona CCM wanavyomtukana Nyalandu baada ya kuwahama juzi na pia Chadema wanavyomsifia huyo Nyalandu leo hii. Siasa usipokua makini nazo, zitakupa presha bure.

Nape Nnauye alikua na kiherehere sana ndani ya CCM, alitumika kuwatukana wapinzani kila siku, juzi tumeona akitolewa nje kwa bastola.

Rais Uhuru hana budi ila kumkumbatia Ruto maana jamaa anajua jinsi ya kupenyeza, kwanza Ruto ameanza mikakati mikali ya kuusaka urais wa 2022, tayari keshaanza kuongea na magavana wa Raila, sasa hivi ana kila uwezo wa kufanya maandalizi ndani ya miaka mitano, na binafsi ninayo uhakika ataongoza hii nchi, hamna njia rahisi ya kumzuia.
Wakikuyu wakubali kumpisha??? Ur joking Nmekaaa na wakikuyu wachache wameapa hawatakubali kuongozwa na mtu aliyewachinja 2007 ndio nakwambia Kenyatta kamtumia tu kupata kura ila ruto hatokaa awe Rais wa Kenya time will Tell
 
Wakikuyu wakubali kumpisha??? Ur joking Nmekaaa na wakikuyu wachache wameapa hawatakubali kuongozwa na mtu aliyewachinja 2007 ndio nakwambia Kenyatta kamtumia tu kupata kura ila ruto hatokaa awe Rais wa Kenya time will Tell

Wakikuyu pekee yao hawana uwezo wa kumfanya mtu awe rais, lazima upate uungwaji mikono na Wakenya kutoka makabila mengine mengi, kumbuka Moi aliongoza nchi kwa miaka 24 bila kura za Wakikuyu. Ndio maana nikakwambia uwache kutegemea siasa za kuambiwa ambiwa na watu wachache, kama unataka kujihusisha kwenye siasa za nje ya kwenu Tanzania, basi soma soma historia.

Kuwa rais Kenya sio jambo rahisi, inabidi upambane sana ambapo ni tofauti na hapo kwenu kwamba wakikutangaza Dodoma ugombee kwa niaba ya CCM basi, kuanzia hapo inakua igizo tu kama vile kuanza pushups na maigizo mengine hadi siku ya kuapishwa.
 
Wakiungana kwenye Uongozi na kwa yote ni faida kwa raia, na itakuwa bora, lazima yaishe nchi isonge mbele..Wanaoumia hapa ni Wakenya tu, Raila na Uhuru wanakula Caviar na Champagne kama kawa tu..
 
Wakikuyu pekee yao hawana uwezo wa kumfanya mtu awe rais, lazima upate uungwaji mikono na Wakenya kutoka makabila mengine mengi, kumbuka Moi aliongoza nchi kwa miaka 24 bila kura za Wakikuyu. Ndio maana nikakwambia uwache kutegemea siasa za kuambiwa ambiwa na watu wachache, kama unataka kujihusisha kwenye siasa za nje ya kwenu Tanzania, basi soma soma historia.

Kuwa rais Kenya sio jambo rahisi, inabidi upambane sana ambapo ni tofauti na hapo kwenu kwamba wakikutangaza Dodoma ugombee kwa niaba ya CCM basi, kuanzia hapo inakua igizo tu kama vile kuanza pushups na maigizo mengine hadi siku ya kuapishwa.
Hawana uwezo tunajua ndio maana Raila alikuja na 40 vs 1 alijua hii siri ila nachokwambia wako tayari kumpa mkalenjin mwingine sio ruto hilo ndio ulijue hilo leo mie nmesoma kenya na nmeishi kenya so najua nachosema

Hao wakikuyu wataweka mkikuyu mwingine kuwa rais kma kura za wakalenjin watamtumia hta gideon Moi utakuja niambia Ila Narudia tena RUTO hatokaa kuwa Rais wa Kenya
 
Hawana uwezo tunajua ndio maana Raila alikuja na 40 vs 1 alijua hii siri ila nachokwambia wako tayari kumpa mkalenjin mwingine sio ruto hilo ndio ulijue hilo leo mie nmesoma kenya na nmeishi kenya so najua nachosema

Hao wakikuyu wataweka mkikuyu mwingine kuwa rais kma kura za wakalenjin watamtumia hta gideon Moi utakuja niambia Ila Narudia tena RUTO hatokaa kuwa Rais wa Kenya

Nimekuambia uwache kufuata uwezo wa kuwa rais wa Kenya kwa kuangalia Wakikuyu tu, maana hata wajitokeze hadi wa mwisho, hawana uwezo huo na Moi alitawala miaka 24 bila kutegemea kura zao.

Ruto amefikia hapo na kunyanyua biblia na kuapishwa kama naibu wa rais kwa ujanja wake na sio jitihada za Wakikuyu. Kumbuka hata Moi alijaribu sana kumkwamisha. Kenya lazima tujiandae kwa urais wake.
 
Nimekuambia uwache kufuata uwezo wa kuwa rais wa Kenya kwa kuangalia Wakikuyu tu, maana hata wajitokeze hadi wa mwisho, hawana uwezo huo na Moi alitawala miaka 24 bila kutegemea kura zao.

Ruto amefikia hapo na kunyanyua biblia na kuapishwa kama naibu wa rais kwa ujanja wake na sio jitihada za Wakikuyu. Kumbuka hata Moi alijaribu sana kumkwamisha. Kenya lazima tujiandae kwa urais wake.
Ujanja gani wakati yule mfanyabiashara mkikuyu alimshauri kenyatta amchukue rutto sababu y'a rift valley ssa ujanja gani ??

Anyway tusibishane sana tuombeane uhai tu by 2020 tutakuwa n'a majibu yote
 
Sasa hivi Ruto amekataa kulindwa na Recce squad anatumia Prison police. Reason being mistrust towards Kikuyu dominated Recce unit.
 
Ujanja gani wakati yule mfanyabiashara mkikuyu alimshauri kenyatta amchukue rutto sababu y'a rift valley ssa ujanja gani ??

Anyway tusibishane sana tuombeane uhai tu by 2020 tutakuwa n'a majibu yote

Kenyatta amefanya juhudi zote za kumtunza Ruto maana angefanya ujinga aliofanya Raila, wa kumtumia na kumtupa, asingepata fursa ya kurudi iikulu.
Leo hii Raila anabwatuka huko nje kwa kosa hilo.
Siasa ni ujanja, ukijilegeza unatupwa nje.
 
Kenyatta amefanya juhudi zote za kumtunza Ruto maana angefanya ujinga aliofanya Raila, wa kumtumia na kumtupa, asingepata fursa ya kurudi iikulu.
Leo hii Raila anabwatuka huko nje kwa kosa hilo.
Siasa ni ujanja, ukijilegeza unatupwa nje.
Ssa 2020 wakikuyu watakubali kuongozwa na mkalenjin?? Hvi unawajua wakikuyu unawasikia ...... Moi aliongoza sababu ya order ya mzee jomo ila kma jomo angekufa kabla hajamkaimisha mzee moi angeusikia urais kwenye redio tu

Narudia Tena kma wakikuyu wako radhi waongozwe na mkalenjin basi atakuwa mwingine lets say gideon moi kuliko huyo Ruto bado hawajasahau alivyowachinja makanisani so urais atausikia kwenye bomba ....... Najua nachokisema tukumbushane 2020
 
Ruto hama hamu tokea Kikuyu walipomvamia nyumbani kwake only missing him by whisker. Wakikuyu hawakupenda jinsi Ruto na wakalenjini walivyo fanya janja-janja kuhakikisha Jubilee inashinda uchaguzi lakini action yao ingewa-cost waKikuyu ngome yao kutokana na matokeo kufutwa.
 
Ssa 2020 wakikuyu watakubali kuongozwa na mkalenjin?? Hvi unawajua wakikuyu unawasikia ...... Moi aliongoza sababu ya order ya mzee jomo ila kma jomo angekufa kabla hajamkaimisha mzee moi angeusikia urais kwenye redio tu

Narudia Tena kma wakikuyu wako radhi waongozwe na mkalenjin basi atakuwa mwingine lets say gideon moi kuliko huyo Ruto bado hawajasahau alivyowachinja makanisani so urais atausikia kwenye bomba ....... Najua nachokisema tukumbushane 2020

Umerudia rudia hiyo kauli potofu, jameni sio Wakikuyu pekee wenye maamuzi ya nani atawale nchi.
 
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