Uhuru na Raila waanza majadiliano kimya ya jinsi ya kugawana

Uhuru na Raila waanza majadiliano kimya ya jinsi ya kugawana

pingli-nywee said:
Kumbe tulikulisha, tukakusomesha tena hadi na babako na ndugu zako hadi sasa hivi wanashiba kwa hisani yetu? Yaani ulivo sasa hivi ni kwasababu ya Kenya? Afu unakuja na matusi dhidi ya babako Kenya. Kweli roho mbaya mlibarikiwa nazo watz. Tumezoea wakenya, huwa hatungoji shukran kutoka kwa wakimbizi.
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Mnatudharau sana ndio maana siwezi kuwaheshimu..... Mie nmekaa huko mna maukabila sana yaani hadi msiba kwenye estate akifiwa mtu wanakuja watu wa kabila lake mpka pastor na nyimbo zinazoimbwa ni za kikabila tu toka hapo nliwadharau sana

Mnachonikera wakenya ni kujiona mko mbali sana na kuanza kudharau waTZ kana kwamba cjui nchi yenu inaelea angani wakati shida tupu nmefika huko turkana xjui marsabit.......shida tupu maukame alafu mkija hapa ooooh Tanzania hamtuwezi cjui Tanzania LDC!!! Kuweni na adabu ndio tutawaheshimu

Simpendi magufuli ila alivyowanyoosha kwenye ng'ombe na kuku nampa big up mpaka muache dharau nyie tribalists
 
mwaswast said:
Literary biting the finger that feeds him. Huyu ni kama yule fisi aliyeokolewa na mbuzi toka kwa shimo only kumgeuka na kutaka kumla.
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Wakenya mlinisaidia nni zaidi ya kuikejeli nchi yangu kwa hoja za kipumbavu cjui hatujui english!!!! Kuna likikuyu limoja sitalisahau tulienda kampala tumefika huko as a group wanaliuliza kuhusu Tz likaanza kuongelea negatives tu cjui oooh most iliterate country EA cjui watz hawajui english cjui waTZ are too local and uncivilized...... Mungu si athuman akateguka uti wa mgongo hao wagganda aliowapakiza maneno sio wakenya waliokuwepo (alikuepo mluo na mkamba ) hawakuja kumsaidia ila mmi aliyenidharau ndio nkawa namuuguza!!!! Hapo ndio alinyooka akaacha ukabila

Kwa ufupi kenya naipenda but kuna vijitu vichache kma wwe vinanifanya nijute kuzaliwa huko!!!
 
mwaswast said:
Mbona ufisadi na umaskini na slums na kuringa kwa wakenya kunakuwasha hivi mpaka povu linakutoka? Pilipili usioila yakuwashia nini? Wachana na umaskini wetu shughulika na utajiri wenu.
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Yes Tanzania is very rich tunakosa uongozi tu ila with time tutawapiku tu ukizingatia mpka 2020 cjui mtakuwa na nchi mbili ya peoples republic of kenya na republic of kenya😀😀 hapo bado coast region itatangaza kujitenga !!!

Anyway tunakuja kwa kasi kiuchumi na wwe unaona coz tumeanza reform mining sector nafkiri umeshuhudia

Gas imevumbuliwa na inaanza kutumika mwakani

Port inapanuliwa na nyingine kuongezwa bagamoyo

Miundombinu inajengwa kurahisisha usafiri eg SGR...

Sekta ya utalii inakuwa sio nyie na kimaasai mara chenu cha kiubabishaji

Nyie kalieni maukabila , maslums na ukame wenu mkishtuka tumewapiku na viburi vyenu hivo
 
zitto junior kumbe ulizaliwa Kenya??? Dah ndo maana unalialia hivo? Jombaa dunia si fair wakianza kukuita zitto senior ndo utaelewa. Usijali dogo maisha yako hivo acha sitilesi.
 
zitto junior said:
Yes Tanzania is very rich tunakosa uongozi tu ila with time tutawapiku tu ukizingatia mpka 2020 cjui mtakuwa na nchi mbili ya peoples republic of kenya na republic of kenya😀😀 hapo bado coast region itatangaza kujitenga !!!

Anyway tunakuja kwa kasi kiuchumi na wwe unaona coz tumeanza reform mining sector nafkiri umeshuhudia

Gas imevumbuliwa na inaanza kutumika mwakani

Port inapanuliwa na nyingine kuongezwa bagamoyo

Miundombinu inajengwa kurahisisha usafiri eg SGR...

Sekta ya utalii inakuwa sio nyie na kimaasai mara chenu cha kiubabishaji

Nyie kalieni maukabila , maslums na ukame wenu mkishtuka tumewapiku na viburi vyenu hivo
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Wakenya hawajawazuia kwa hali yeyote ile kujiendeleza kiuchumi.
 
pingli-nywee said:
Wewe mwenyewe huwajui wakikuyu vizuri. Kura za wakikuyu pekee haziwezi kufanikisha kumfikisha mkikuyu ikulu. Rudi kwa informer wako wa umbea vijiweni akuelimishe upya.
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binafsi huwa siamini kuwa maraisi wa vinchi masikini vya afrika(kenya ikiwemo) wanaenda ikulu kwa uwingi wa idadi ya kura.

mara nyingi chaguzi hutumika tu kama kiini macho...ila vyombo vya ulinzi na usalama vikisukumwa na itikadi mbalimbali za ukabila,dini,ukanda au chama cha kisiasa,huwa vinakuwa tayari vimeshateua mtu wao wa kushika ikulu kabla hata zoezi la kupiga kura kuanza.hii ndio afrika msee.
 
zitto junior said:
Wakenya mlinisaidia nni zaidi ya kuikejeli nchi yangu kwa hoja za kipumbavu cjui hatujui english!!!! Kuna likikuyu limoja sitalisahau tulienda kampala tumefika huko as a group wanaliuliza kuhusu Tz likaanza kuongelea negatives tu cjui oooh most iliterate country EA cjui watz hawajui english cjui waTZ are too local and uncivilized...... Mungu si athuman akateguka uti wa mgongo hao wagganda aliowapakiza maneno sio wakenya waliokuwepo (alikuepo mluo na mkamba ) hawakuja kumsaidia ila mmi aliyenidharau ndio nkawa namuuguza!!!! Hapo ndio alinyooka akaacha ukabila

Kwa ufupi kenya naipenda but kuna vijitu vichache kma wwe vinanifanya nijute kuzaliwa huko!!!
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Pole babaa usilie.
 
Angalau Uhuru amekubali kufanya hivyo ili kuleta mshikamano wa Wakenya na kuleta amani, siyo kama hapa kwetu kuna huyu dikteta uchwara anajiona yeye ndiye ndiye hataki kushauriwa kwa namna yoyote ile kwenye mambo mbali mbali yasiyo na maslahi kwa Watanzania na Tanzania. Imefikia hadi kutumia visu, mapanga, marungu na bunduki kupora ushindi wa uchaguzi wa Madiwani tu!!! Hawa wahuni wenyewe wanaita eti ushindi wa kisayansi!!!!

Nahofia huyu dikteta uchwara kwa nia yake ya kupora uchaguzi kwa gharama yoyote ile 2020 tunaweza kabisa kushuhudia umwagaji damu wa kutisha nchini ili tu kung’ang’ania kubaki madarakani.


MK254 said:
Dah... Siasa unafiki tu, halafu mijitu tunacharangana mapanga kwa ujinga, sasa jamaa waanza majadiliano ya kimya kimya jinsi ya kugawana nyadhifa nyingi za kiserikali zikiwemo mabalozi, mawaziri, wakuu wa mashirika upumbavu tu.

Nia ya kushindana kwenye uchaguzi ni nini haswa.

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President Uhuru Kenyatta is reaching out to opposition chief Raila Odinga for a political deal to save the country from deepening division.

Details emerged the day before Uhuru and DP William Ruto are to be inaugurated for their final five-year terms and Raila plans what could be a hugely overshadowing, distracting and embarrassing parallel event at the same time.

As Raila's event has been banned, confrontation with police is likely.

The olive branch actually several branches were extended in two meetings over the weekend by National Assembly Majority Leader Adan Duale to Raila's elder brother Oburu Odinga, sources close to the discussions have told the Star. There were a flurry of emissaries.

Oburu confirmed the two meetings to the Star and said Duale had sent a personal message to Raila. He declined to discuss it.

The peace offerings also come with conditions publicly recognise Uhuru as the legitimately elected President, tone down NASA's anti-government activities and call off the rally today.

NASA's prayer event is supposed to memorialise victims of police violence during opposition marches and protests.

“If Raila accepts the proposal, the President himself will get involved in the negotiations,” a source familiar with the intrigues told the Star.

There was no word on Raila's response but the rally was said to be on, though the proposals were said to be under consideration by the former Prime Minister and his lieutenants.

The Jubilee proposals:

1) Raila's lieutenants would receive at least two Cabinet posts and four slot for Principal Secretaries for the NASA leader;

2) NASA would be given influential parastatal jobs and diplomatic appointments;

3) Jubilee would use its majority in Parliament to unconditionally approve Oburu and Kalonzo Muyoka's son Kennedy as members of the East African Legislative Assembly;

4) Jubilee would donate one of its own six EALA slots to Musalia Mudavadi's ANC. The ANC and Ford Kenya are not entitled to any EALA seats because of their small representation in Parliament;

5) Uhuru himself will personally be involved in negotiations if Raila accepts.

By yesterday, there were signals the icy Jubilee-NASA relationship had begun to thaw.

Raila's full security detail of 12 officers were to be reinstated by close of business yesterday. Security for co-principals Kalonzo and Moses Wetang'ula was also to be restored.

The security details were withdrawn on September 27 as NASA began demonstrations to push out IEBC officials they blamed for bungling the August 8 polls.

In an interview with the Star yesterday, Oburu, the former Bondo lawmaker also said Duale had sent a message to Raila.

“And he [Duale] was also trying to see if there is anything that I can talk to my brother [Raila] about. But I told him, that it's better President Uhuru reaches out directly to Raila. Not through me,” Oburu said.

“You know political temperatures are high, so naturally, as a stalwart of Jubilee, from all angles, he would want the temperatures to cool," Oburu said.

The inauguration will be attended by 100,000 people, including heads of state and government or their representatives. It will start at 9am and Kenyatta will deliver a speech outlining his vision and how he plans to unite a divided country.

Over the weekend, there was a flurry of events by various emissaries, racing against time to get NASA and Jubilee to initiate some form of dialogue.

Sources close to the discussions tell the Star the first meeting was on Friday at Duale's office and the second was at the private Parklands Sports club.

Yesterday, Oburu, a prominent and respected member of the Jaramogi Oginga family, said in an interview,

“Duale is my friend. Even on Friday, I went to his office. I was campaigning for an EALA seat. You have to reach out to everybody, so I was looking for his support.

During the discussions, it's said Duale demanded NASA calls off today's rally and prayer gathering.

The NASA event has been banned by police, however, it is expected to take place somewhere, probably just a few kilometres from Uhuru's swearing in ceremony at Kasarani.

NASA has pledged to push anti-government activities, including civil disobedience, boycotts and People's Assemblies in the counties.

The opposition initially insisted it would swear in Raila as the People's President today. However, Raila rejected the idea on Saturday at Maanzoni, disappointing many hardliners and other supporters.

By late last evening, NASA insisted its planned and banned rally at Jacaranda grounds was still on.

It was not clear whether Raila had rejected the overtures or talks were still at an early stage.

The Jubilee government fears the NASA rally could overshadow the swearing-in ceremony.

At least 11 heads of state are expected to attend Uhuru's coronation as the state is determined to demonstrate global acceptance despite controversy that marred the August 8 General Election and the October 26 rerun.

On Sunday, the President publicly reached out to the opposition in an apparent call for dialogue.

Speaking at Redeemed Gospel Church in Huruma, Uhuru asked the opposition to save Kenyans from political confrontation, adding the country should now come together.

“Na hata naomba wale tulishindana na wao. Hakuna haja sasa ya kusumbua mwananchi. Mwananchi ametimiza yake. Sisi tuje sasa tukae na tupange yale ambayo twataka kutendea Kenya. (And I ask my competitors that there is no need to disturb citizens. The citizens did their part. We should now come together, sit and plan what we want to do for Kenya,” Uhuru said..

On August 11, in his acceptance speech after the botched August 8 poll, Uhuru appealed directly to Raila.

"To my brother Mr Odinga, I reach out to you. I reach out to all your supporters and all those who were elected on opposition benches, and say that we shall work together, partner and grow this country together," Uhuru said

"I extend a hand of friendship, cooperation, and a promise to partner to work together to succeed. And Kenyans want us to succeed."

Source: Oburu meets Uhuru team for unity deal with Raila
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kadoda11 said:
binafsi huwa siamini kuwa maraisi wa vinchi masikini vya afrika(kenya ikiwemo) wanaenda ikulu kwa uwingi wa idadi ya kura.

mara nyingi chaguzi hutumika tu kama kiini macho...ila vyombo vya ulinzi na usalama vikisukumwa na itikadi mbalimbali za ukabila,dini,ukanda au chama cha kisiasa,huwa vinakuwa tayari vimeshateua mtu wao wa kushika ikulu kabla hata zoezi la kupiga kura kuanza.hii ndio afrika msee.
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Naona comment yako imetoklezea ki NRM NRM hivi, come slowly ila nimekuelewa mkuu.
 
Karne ya 20 una zungumza ukabila...? una panda gari la makabila? una ongozwa na ukabila...? Hayati nyerere ktk ubora wake... mwenyezi mungu amrehemu... amina
 
zitto junior said:
Mnatudharau sana ndio maana siwezi kuwaheshimu..... Mie nmekaa huko mna maukabila sana yaani hadi msiba kwenye estate akifiwa mtu wanakuja watu wa kabila lake mpka pastor na nyimbo zinazoimbwa ni za kikabila tu toka hapo nliwadharau sana

Mnachonikera wakenya ni kujiona mko mbali sana na kuanza kudharau waTZ kana kwamba cjui nchi yenu inaelea angani wakati shida tupu nmefika huko turkana xjui marsabit.......shida tupu maukame alafu mkija hapa ooooh Tanzania hamtuwezi cjui Tanzania LDC!!! Kuweni na adabu ndio tutawaheshimu

Simpendi magufuli ila alivyowanyoosha kwenye ng'ombe na kuku nampa big up mpaka muache dharau nyie tribalists
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Wana dharau sana manyangau, ni busara Mkuu kuendelea kuwanyoosha hadi washike adabu..
 
Uhuru hawezi poteza muda wake kujadiliana na Hilo zezeta
 
MK254 said:
Dah... Siasa unafiki tu, halafu mijitu tunacharangana mapanga kwa ujinga, sasa jamaa waanza majadiliano ya kimya kimya jinsi ya kugawana nyadhifa nyingi za kiserikali zikiwemo mabalozi, mawaziri, wakuu wa mashirika upumbavu tu.

Nia ya kushindana kwenye uchaguzi ni nini haswa.

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President Uhuru Kenyatta is reaching out to opposition chief Raila Odinga for a political deal to save the country from deepening division.

Details emerged the day before Uhuru and DP William Ruto are to be inaugurated for their final five-year terms and Raila plans what could be a hugely overshadowing, distracting and embarrassing parallel event at the same time.

As Raila's event has been banned, confrontation with police is likely.

The olive branch actually several branches were extended in two meetings over the weekend by National Assembly Majority Leader Adan Duale to Raila's elder brother Oburu Odinga, sources close to the discussions have told the Star. There were a flurry of emissaries.

Oburu confirmed the two meetings to the Star and said Duale had sent a personal message to Raila. He declined to discuss it.

The peace offerings also come with conditions publicly recognise Uhuru as the legitimately elected President, tone down NASA's anti-government activities and call off the rally today.

NASA's prayer event is supposed to memorialise victims of police violence during opposition marches and protests.

“If Raila accepts the proposal, the President himself will get involved in the negotiations,” a source familiar with the intrigues told the Star.

There was no word on Raila's response but the rally was said to be on, though the proposals were said to be under consideration by the former Prime Minister and his lieutenants.

The Jubilee proposals:

1) Raila's lieutenants would receive at least two Cabinet posts and four slot for Principal Secretaries for the NASA leader;

2) NASA would be given influential parastatal jobs and diplomatic appointments;

3) Jubilee would use its majority in Parliament to unconditionally approve Oburu and Kalonzo Muyoka's son Kennedy as members of the East African Legislative Assembly;

4) Jubilee would donate one of its own six EALA slots to Musalia Mudavadi's ANC. The ANC and Ford Kenya are not entitled to any EALA seats because of their small representation in Parliament;

5) Uhuru himself will personally be involved in negotiations if Raila accepts.

By yesterday, there were signals the icy Jubilee-NASA relationship had begun to thaw.

Raila's full security detail of 12 officers were to be reinstated by close of business yesterday. Security for co-principals Kalonzo and Moses Wetang'ula was also to be restored.

The security details were withdrawn on September 27 as NASA began demonstrations to push out IEBC officials they blamed for bungling the August 8 polls.

In an interview with the Star yesterday, Oburu, the former Bondo lawmaker also said Duale had sent a message to Raila.

“And he [Duale] was also trying to see if there is anything that I can talk to my brother [Raila] about. But I told him, that it's better President Uhuru reaches out directly to Raila. Not through me,” Oburu said.

“You know political temperatures are high, so naturally, as a stalwart of Jubilee, from all angles, he would want the temperatures to cool," Oburu said.

The inauguration will be attended by 100,000 people, including heads of state and government or their representatives. It will start at 9am and Kenyatta will deliver a speech outlining his vision and how he plans to unite a divided country.

Over the weekend, there was a flurry of events by various emissaries, racing against time to get NASA and Jubilee to initiate some form of dialogue.

Sources close to the discussions tell the Star the first meeting was on Friday at Duale's office and the second was at the private Parklands Sports club.

Yesterday, Oburu, a prominent and respected member of the Jaramogi Oginga family, said in an interview,

“Duale is my friend. Even on Friday, I went to his office. I was campaigning for an EALA seat. You have to reach out to everybody, so I was looking for his support.

During the discussions, it's said Duale demanded NASA calls off today's rally and prayer gathering.

The NASA event has been banned by police, however, it is expected to take place somewhere, probably just a few kilometres from Uhuru's swearing in ceremony at Kasarani.

NASA has pledged to push anti-government activities, including civil disobedience, boycotts and People's Assemblies in the counties.

The opposition initially insisted it would swear in Raila as the People's President today. However, Raila rejected the idea on Saturday at Maanzoni, disappointing many hardliners and other supporters.

By late last evening, NASA insisted its planned and banned rally at Jacaranda grounds was still on.

It was not clear whether Raila had rejected the overtures or talks were still at an early stage.

The Jubilee government fears the NASA rally could overshadow the swearing-in ceremony.

At least 11 heads of state are expected to attend Uhuru's coronation as the state is determined to demonstrate global acceptance despite controversy that marred the August 8 General Election and the October 26 rerun.

On Sunday, the President publicly reached out to the opposition in an apparent call for dialogue.

Speaking at Redeemed Gospel Church in Huruma, Uhuru asked the opposition to save Kenyans from political confrontation, adding the country should now come together.

“Na hata naomba wale tulishindana na wao. Hakuna haja sasa ya kusumbua mwananchi. Mwananchi ametimiza yake. Sisi tuje sasa tukae na tupange yale ambayo twataka kutendea Kenya. (And I ask my competitors that there is no need to disturb citizens. The citizens did their part. We should now come together, sit and plan what we want to do for Kenya,” Uhuru said..

On August 11, in his acceptance speech after the botched August 8 poll, Uhuru appealed directly to Raila.

"To my brother Mr Odinga, I reach out to you. I reach out to all your supporters and all those who were elected on opposition benches, and say that we shall work together, partner and grow this country together," Uhuru said

"I extend a hand of friendship, cooperation, and a promise to partner to work together to succeed. And Kenyans want us to succeed."

Source: Oburu meets Uhuru team for unity deal with Raila
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Fvck Kenya!
 
kadoda11 said:
binafsi huwa siamini kuwa maraisi wa vinchi masikini vya afrika(kenya ikiwemo) wanaenda ikulu kwa uwingi wa idadi ya kura.

mara nyingi chaguzi hutumika tu kama kiini macho...ila vyombo vya ulinzi na usalama vikisukumwa na itikadi mbalimbali za ukabila,dini,ukanda au chama cha kisiasa,huwa vinakuwa tayari vimeshateua mtu wao wa kushika ikulu kabla hata zoezi la kupiga kura kuanza.hii ndio afrika msee.
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sio nchi maskini tu mkuu, nadhan dunia nzima iko hivyo!!!........

nchi zinaongozwa na vikundi vya watu na wao ndio huamua nan awe raisi, wasipotaka wao huwez hata ufanyeje!!......, ndio dunia yetu no way
 
mwaswast said:
Wakenya hawajawazuia kwa hali yeyote ile kujiendeleza kiuchumi.
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Acheni dharau nyie wakati hamna lolote ..... Watu wanakufa kwa ukame huko kaskazini kawapeni chakula sio mnakesha mitandaoni
 
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