Ushauri: Ukweli umeshaanza kujulikana, ni vizuri tupunguze malumbano

Ushauri: Ukweli umeshaanza kujulikana, ni vizuri tupunguze malumbano

The best 007 said:
Mjinga sana uyo jamaa cku zote huwa anajifariji kwa data za uongo, hapo juu anakwambia mombasa port inachukuwa mzigo twice ports zote za Tz akiambiwa alete credible source analeta zile za kutengeneza huu ndo ufilauni wenyewe unaozungumziwa kwenye vitabu.
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Do you have anything to add idle witch?
 
Teargass said:
Just to remind you all that Mombasa port handles twice the number cargo handled by all Tanzanian airports.

The first image is of all ports in Tanzania, total tonnage is 17,294,000 tonnes.
The second image is of Mombasa port and the total tonnage handled were 34,440,000 tonnes.
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Hii taarifa inatumia units mbili tofauti huwezi kulinganisha, Tanzania (DWT), Mombasa (MT), rekebisha vipimo kwanza
 
joto la jiwe said:
Hii taarifa inatumia units mbili tofauti huwezi kulinganisha, Tanzania (DWT), Mombasa (MT), rekebisha vipimo kwanza
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What you have to know is that DWT is just a general term used in logistics. It is a term with three branches;
Long tone = 1,016kg
Metric to = 1,000kg
Short ton = 907 kg
Any port authority can decide to use any of the three but because Tanzanian authorities used an ambiguous word which is DWT, I decided to go neutral and not to pick any of the two ( long or short). This is because if I was to pick I could pick either the short ton which 907 kg or the long ton which is 1,016kg. Remember both tons will still be twice less than what Mombasa has.
 
Teargass said:
What you have to know is that DWT is just a general term used in logistics. It is a term with three branches;
Long tone = 1,016kg
Metric to = 1,000kg
Short ton = 907 kg
Any port authority can decide to use any of the three but because Tanzanian authorities used an ambiguous word which is DWT, I decided to go neutral and not to pick any of the two ( long or short). This is because if I was to pick I could pick either the short ton which 907 kg or the long ton which is 1,016kg. Remember both tons will still be twice less than what Mombasa has.
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Please, can you bring data which uses the same unit, I have tried my level best to understand these terminology for a long time but till today am not comfortable with them, DWT, TEU.

Please if you use DWT, use for both, if TEU, use for both, never mix them.
 
Teargass said:
So according to you everybody in Kenya is a youth? Why are you bringing youth unemployment yet we are talking about overall? These kinds of reasoning are manifestations of Low IQ.
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Unajua maana ya working population?
 
joto la jiwe said:
Please, can you bring data which uses the same unit, I have tried my level best to understand these terminology for a long time but till today am not comfortable with them, DWT, TEU.

Please if you use DWT, use for both, if TEU, use for both, never mix them.
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TPA used DWT when presenting their figures, meaning they did not differentiate which type of tonnage they are using. while KPA used MT which can`t confuse anybody. Again as I was going through the internet I came to realize that both DWT and MT are valued as the same thing the international logistic market. You can go through this link to get more information.


Deadweight tonnage (also known as deadweight; abbreviated to DWT, D.W.T., d.w.t., or dwt) or tons deadweight (DWT) is a measure of how much weight a ship can carry, not its weight, empty or in any degree of load. DWT is the sum of the weights of cargo, fuel, fresh water, ballast water, provisions, passengers, and crew.

DWT is often used to specify a ship's maximum permissible deadweight (i.e. when she is fully loaded so that her Plimsoll line is at water level), although it may also denote the actual DWT of a ship not loaded to capacity.

DWT DEADWEIGHT TONNAGE TONNES METRIC VERSUS DISPLACEMENT INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING
Deadweight tonnage is a measure of a vessel's weight carrying capacity, not including the empty weight of the ship. It is distinct from the displacement (weight of water displaced), which includes the ship's own weight, or other volume or capacity measures such as gross tonnage or net tonnage (or their more archaic forms gross register tonnage or net register tonnage).

Deadweight tonnage was historically expressed in long tons but is now usually given internationally in tonnes (metric tons). In modern international shipping conventions such as the International Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea and the International Convention for the Prevention of Pollution From Ships, deadweight is explicitly defined as the difference in tonnes between the displacement of a ship in water of a specific gravity of 1.025 (corresponding to average density of sea water) at the draft corresponding to the assigned summer freeboard and the light displacement (lightweight) of the ship.
 
Teargass said:
So according to you everybody in Kenya is a youth? Why are you bringing youth unemployment yet we are talking about overall? These kinds of reasoning are manifestations of Low IQ.
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Hahahaha, wacha ubishi wa kitoto, lete source yoyote ya kuaminika inayosema unemployment rate Kenya ni chini ya 30%, lete data za IMF, WB au ILO tuone
 
joto la jiwe said:
Hahahaha, wacha ubishi wa kitoto, lete source yoyote ya kuaminika inayosema unemployment rate Kenya ni chini ya 30%, lete data za IMF, WB au ILO tuone
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If I may ask where do WB and IMF get their figures if not from KNBS? And then the latest update from WB I think is 2015 if I`m not wrong.
 
Teargass said:
TPA used DWT when presenting their figures, meaning they did not differentiate which type of tonnage they are using. while KPA used MT which can`t confuse anybody. Again as I was going through the internet I came to realize that both DWT and MT are valued as the same thing the international logistic market. You can go through this link to get more information.


Deadweight tonnage (also known as deadweight; abbreviated to DWT, D.W.T., d.w.t., or dwt) or tons deadweight (DWT) is a measure of how much weight a ship can carry, not its weight, empty or in any degree of load. DWT is the sum of the weights of cargo, fuel, fresh water, ballast water, provisions, passengers, and crew.

DWT is often used to specify a ship's maximum permissible deadweight (i.e. when she is fully loaded so that her Plimsoll line is at water level), although it may also denote the actual DWT of a ship not loaded to capacity.

DWT DEADWEIGHT TONNAGE TONNES METRIC VERSUS DISPLACEMENT INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING
Deadweight tonnage is a measure of a vessel's weight carrying capacity, not including the empty weight of the ship. It is distinct from the displacement (weight of water displaced), which includes the ship's own weight, or other volume or capacity measures such as gross tonnage or net tonnage (or their more archaic forms gross register tonnage or net register tonnage).

Deadweight tonnage was historically expressed in long tons but is now usually given internationally in tonnes (metric tons). In modern international shipping conventions such as the International Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea and the International Convention for the Prevention of Pollution From Ships, deadweight is explicitly defined as the difference in tonnes between the displacement of a ship in water of a specific gravity of 1.025 (corresponding to average density of sea water) at the draft corresponding to the assigned summer freeboard and the light displacement (lightweight) of the ship.
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Kwanini unapenda ubishi wa kitoto?, hata Tanzania pia wanatumia MT, tafuta data za Tanzania za MT, Kama umeshindwa kuzipata huna uhalali wa kulinganisha urefu kwa kutumia Kilometers vs Inches, you have to convert them. Wacha ubishi wa kitoto lazima units zilingane otherwise huna uhalali wa kulinganisha
 
joto la jiwe said:
Hahahaha, wacha ubishi wa kitoto, lete source yoyote ya kuaminika inayosema unemployment rate Kenya ni chini ya 30%, lete data za IMF, WB au ILO tuone
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Actually, according to World Bank, the latest figure is 21st June 2020. The unemployment rate according to the World Bank is 7.2 %.
 
Teargass said:
If I may ask where do WB and IMF get their figures if not from KNBS? And then the latest update from WB I think is 2015 if I`m not wrong.
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Yes wanapata figures kutoka GoK ila wao wanafanya verification, hii maana yake ni kwamba, Data ya WB, IMF, na ILO imekubalika na serikali pia, ila ya serikali pekee bado haijafanyiwa verification na International bodies.
 
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