the guestion is,what do you have to say about CONTRADICTION IN THE BIBLE.
Is gospel in the bible a story based on hearsay or the word of god.
Nimekuulizeni swali doogo sana! Lkn juu ya kujifanya mna elimu mmeshindwa kulijibu!
Narudia tena,
Haonuliowataja hapo juu, ili tukubaliane na maneno yao. Kuna kanuni ndooogo YA MUHIMU SAANA KTK ULIMWENGU,
nayo ni KILA MWANDISHI WA DOCUMENTS YOYOTE LAZIMA TENA LAZIMA AWE NA MAJINA (kwa uchache) MAWILI, Yaani la kwake na la BABA YAKE! AU LA UKOO WAKE!!
HII NI KANUNI!
SASA NAOMBA NYIE WAKRISTO WOOTE MNIPE MAJINA YA PILI YA HAWA WAANDISHI WA BIBLIA!.
1.MATTHEW....?
2.JOHN.......?
3.MARK ........?
4.PETER......?
na pia huyu LUKA ......who?
wewe ukipewa cheque ya jina moja utapokea?
Passport yako ikiwa na jina moja ni halali?
Driving licence ikiwa na jina moja itakubalika??
Certificate yyt ya elimu ikiwa na jina moja nani ataikubali??
Umeshawahi kuona Hata KITABU CHA HADITHI ZA WATOTO MWANDISHI ANA JINA MOJA TU!?
NITAJIE LEGALL DOCUMENT YOYOTE DUNIANI AMBAYO MWANDISHI KAWEKA JINA MOJA TU,!!
HAKUNA!!
HUWEZI KUPATA! ISPOKUWA BIBLIA PEKE YAKE!
ISN'T THAT SOMETHING YOU SHOULD ASK YOURSELF BEFORE SAID ANYTHING??
CAN ANY OF YOU EXPLAIN THAT??!!
cc Eiyer MaxShimba Nicholas @yerko nyerere na mgalatia yyt!
Nyie mnaiamini Torah Je niambie Musa ana majina mangapi
oooh,ok ok,zilikua ni barua ama nyaraka in other words SIO MANENO YA MUNGU.ni watu tu wanaandikiana nyaraka,kama ni hivyo ntakubaliana nawe.unajua nilitaka kushangaa,nikawa najiuliza hivi kweli kama haya maneno mungu ndo amesimamia uandikwaji wake inakuaje yanakua na mapungufu mengi kiasi hicho.kwasababu najua mungu ni mkamilifu sasa anaweza vipi kujicontradict?KUMBE ZILIKUA NYARAKA WATU WANAANDIKIANA.mwenye kuongeza chumvi sawa,mwenye kupitwa na baadhi ya matukio sawa.There are no contradictions it's the word of God, sio hadith kama mnafahamiana mnavyoita hadith za mtume or mazimulizi ya mtume fulani. We do believe it is the inspired word of God. These deciples have made it clear in every book: that they bear account of the things they saw.
All these books were of course written as letters or nyaraka kwa makanisa au hata kwa watu maalum waliohitaji kujua mambo yalivyotokea wakati wa Yesu but we maintain they are indeed inspired and not false reports as you say because many if not all of those very apostles like Peter, Paul, John all died witnessing the gospel it makes no sense why would they lie about it. Here is an excerpt from Luke 1:1
1 Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us,
2 Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word;
3 It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus,
4 That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed.
And all the books always start with introduction as to whom those words were sent. eg The book of
Timothy to Timothy ( who is believed to have been a bishop at the time) .
--the book of Romans to the church of Rome etc.
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Luke anaonesha wazi kwamba Anaandika alioyaona na kusikia kwa Yesu.
Also here:
Peter endorses Paul and warns Christians of people who pervert scriptures like you want to.
2 Peter 3:14-16
King James Version (KJV)
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14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
oooh,ok ok,zilikua ni barua ama nyaraka in other words SIO MANENO YA MUNGU.ni watu tu wanaandikiana nyaraka,kama ni hivyo ntakubaliana nawe.unajua nilitaka kushangaa,nikawa najiuliza hivi kweli kama haya maneno mungu ndo amesimamia uandikwaji wake inakuaje yanakua na mapungufu mengi kiasi hicho.kwasababu najua mungu ni mkamilifu sasa anaweza vipi kujicontradict?KUMBE ZILIKUA NYARAKA WATU WANAANDIKIANA.mwenye kuongeza chumvi sawa,mwenye kupitwa na baadhi ya matukio sawa.
Sasa kwanini unafuata kitabu chenye mkusanyiko wa barua za watu ?
Nimekuulizeni swali doogo sana! Lkn juu ya kujifanya mna elimu mmeshindwa kulijibu!
Narudia tena,
Haonuliowataja hapo juu, ili tukubaliane na maneno yao. Kuna kanuni ndooogo YA MUHIMU SAANA KTK ULIMWENGU,
nayo ni KILA MWANDISHI WA DOCUMENTS YOYOTE LAZIMA TENA LAZIMA AWE NA MAJINA (kwa uchache) MAWILI, Yaani la kwake na la BABA YAKE! AU LA UKOO WAKE!!
HII NI KANUNI!
SASA NAOMBA NYIE WAKRISTO WOOTE MNIPE MAJINA YA PILI YA HAWA WAANDISHI WA BIBLIA!.
1.MATTHEW....?
2.JOHN.......?
3.MARK ........?
4.PETER......?
na pia huyu LUKA ......who?
wewe ukipewa cheque ya jina moja utapokea?
Passport yako ikiwa na jina moja ni halali?
Driving licence ikiwa na jina moja itakubalika??
Certificate yyt ya elimu ikiwa na jina moja nani ataikubali??
Umeshawahi kuona Hata KITABU CHA HADITHI ZA WATOTO MWANDISHI ANA JINA MOJA TU!?
NITAJIE LEGALL DOCUMENT YOYOTE DUNIANI AMBAYO MWANDISHI KAWEKA JINA MOJA TU,!!
HAKUNA!!
HUWEZI KUPATA! ISPOKUWA BIBLIA PEKE YAKE!
ISN'T THAT SOMETHING YOU SHOULD ASK YOURSELF BEFORE SAID ANYTHING??
CAN ANY OF YOU EXPLAIN THAT??!!
cc Eiyer MaxShimba Nicholas @yerikco nyerere na mgalatia yyt!
Also here:
Peter endorses Paul and warns Christians of people who pervert scriptures like you want to.
2 Peter 3:14-16
King James Version (KJV)
--------------
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
oooh,ok ok,zilikua ni barua ama nyaraka in other words SIO MANENO YA MUNGU.ni watu tu wanaandikiana nyaraka,kama ni hivyo ntakubaliana nawe.unajua nilitaka kushangaa,nikawa najiuliza hivi kweli kama haya maneno mungu ndo amesimamia uandikwaji wake inakuaje yanakua na mapungufu mengi kiasi hicho.kwasababu najua mungu ni mkamilifu sasa anaweza vipi kujicontradict?KUMBE ZILIKUA NYARAKA WATU WANAANDIKIANA.mwenye kuongeza chumvi sawa,mwenye kupitwa na baadhi ya matukio sawa.
Sasa kwanini unafuata kitabu chenye mkusanyiko wa barua za watu ?
Wewe unamatatizo sana,unadhani hapa umesema point ya maana sana
Hizo kanuni unazosema zimewekwa na nani?
Zinahusu nini?
Kwa kifupi madai yako hayana maana
Hapa nitakupa ubin wa baadhi tu ya hao hapo juu:
Petro[Peter] ubini wake ni Yona,soma hapo chini
17 Yesu akajibu, akamwambia, Heri wewe Simoni Bar-yona; kwa kuwa mwili na damu havikukufunulia hili, bali Baba yangu aliye mbinguni.
Yohana[John] ubin wake ni zebedayo soma hapo chini
19 Akaendelea mbele kidogo, akamwona Yakobo wa Zebedayo, na Yohana nduguye, nao pia walikuwa chomboni, wakizitengeneza nyavu zao.
Mathayo[Mathew] ubini wake ni Lawi
mathayo 10:3
Mathayo mtoza ushuru
Kwa ufafanuzi wa hii soma hapa Luka 5:27
27 Baada ya hayo akatoka, akaona mtoza ushuru, jina lake Lawi, ameketi forodhani, akamwambia, Nifuate
Kwa kifupi hoja zako hazina msingi wowote japokuwa nimekuthibitishia kuwa ubin wa hao hapo juu upo hadi majina ya babu zao
Tatizo lenu nyie maamuma mmekaririshwa tu na hamjui kitu chochote!!!!!!!!!!
Maandiko hayo mnayoyaamini yaliandikwa na malaika au watu? Uzuri wa Ukristo ni uwazi biblia iko wazi ndio maana kila mtu anaweza kuisoma na haifichi kitu. Kuna sababu kwanini biblia iko ilivyo na kwanini vitabu vyenu mnakaririshwa kwa fimbo. Pia kuna sababu kwanini Mungu na ukuu wake anatumia watu tu waliokua kama mimi na wewe kuongea na watu anaweza kutumia malaika ila tangu awali Noah, Moses, David na wengine wengiiii ambao hata mtume wenu anakiri kuwa ni mitume walikuwa wanadamu na walishushiwa maandiko.
Nitakuuliza swali lingine maana la Musa umekwepa. David (mnayemwita Dawood) alichoandika sio neno la Mungu? Halipo ktk 'Quran takatifu'?
Mnachofuarahisha ni kwamba huwa mna stori nyingi sana ambazo hazifanani na ukweli..shida mna mistari miwili miwili...si imeandikwa na co-authurs.
-allah naandika mmoja na mwandisho mwenzie anaongezea mwingine...ndio maana majukwaani mnasema ni mbaya kuua,mwingine unasema lazima kuua.Mwingine unapinga ushoga,mwingine unasema pepo yenu itakuwa na wanaume warembo..
Mnadhani mtaaminika?Angalia mombasa, zenj, pwani yenu yote wana mzizima..mnanuka matambiko+ushoga na ubasha..ndio fahari yenu..ndio sunnah.
Taarabu si ndio injil yenu ya ushoga na kuporana wake..taarabu ni chafu kuliko choo cha bar......
ni matokeo ya BSV.
Tofauti yetu kati yetu ni ndogo.....lakini pana....
hio ndio tofauti yetu...kwa ufupi mnafata dini mpya na sio alokuja nayo yesu....na huku afrika ililetwa wakati wa kinyanganyiro cha afrika na wazungu wakoloni waliona njia nzuri ni kuwabatiza waafrika kama njia ya kuwatawala ...
- ukristo haukuwepo wakati yesu alipokua hai....hakuufundisha yeye alipokuwepo duniani...ukristo huu mnaofuata sasa ni dini iliyokuja baada ya mkutano wa Nicaea .bali ni dini mpya ambayo haina uhusiano na mitume walopita, yaani ukristo ni tofauti na dini ya Ibrahim, Mussa,Nuh na wengineo...ni dini mpya kabisa ndio maana hio dini haina mizizi pale walipo toka mitume ...rejea historia yenu ya mkutano wa kwanza wa christians huko Nicaea. huu ndio ulokuja na hii dini mpya ...ukitaka usitake huu ndio ukweli na haya makubaliano yalikuja baada ya vurugu na mauaji ya wazungu wenyewew kwa wenyewe na ushenzi mwingi huko nyuma , hivo walikaa pamoja ku create dini ambayo itawaunganisha....hivyo paulo akafit katika hili..na ndio mwanzo wa dini hii.
- uislam kama ulivo ni original toka day one Quaran imebaki moja na imeendelea kuwa hivo hadi leo. pia uislam ni dini kongwe ile ilokua ikifatwa na Mussa, Yessu , Ibrahim , Nuh nk dini ya kuwa Mungu ni mmoja na hana mshirika.....na amekuwa akichagua miongoni mwa wanadamu zaidi wana Israel kuwa Mitume wake.
Wewe unamatatizo sana,unadhani hapa umesema point ya maana sana
Hizo kanuni unazosema zimewekwa na nani?
Zinahusu nini?
Kwa kifupi madai yako hayana maana
Hapa nitakupa ubin wa baadhi tu ya hao hapo juu:
Petro[Peter] ubini wake ni Yona,soma hapo chini
17 Yesu akajibu, akamwambia, Heri wewe Simoni Bar-yona; kwa kuwa mwili na damu havikukufunulia hili, bali Baba yangu aliye mbinguni.
Yohana[John] ubin wake ni zebedayo soma hapo chini
19 Akaendelea mbele kidogo, akamwona Yakobo wa Zebedayo, na Yohana nduguye, nao pia walikuwa chomboni, wakizitengeneza nyavu zao.
Mathayo[Mathew] ubini wake ni Lawi
mathayo 10:3
Mathayo mtoza ushuru
Kwa ufafanuzi wa hii soma hapa Luka 5:27
27 Baada ya hayo akatoka, akaona mtoza ushuru, jina lake Lawi, ameketi forodhani, akamwambia, Nifuate
Kwa kifupi hoja zako hazina msingi wowote japokuwa nimekuthibitishia kuwa ubin wa hao hapo juu upo hadi majina ya babu zao
Tatizo lenu nyie maamuma mmekaririshwa tu na hamjui kitu chochote!!!!!!!!!!
Tuseme wewe huna mchango wowote maana nakuona unachombeza tuu ,wewe haya mambo unayaelewajeelewaje?Duu mkuu naona umeanza kupiga zile za chembe,
Hapo juu nimeona wengine wameshaaza kutafuta basha na wengine damu inawatoka mpini umewageuka.
Kwanini mnahgangaika kuhubiri kwakukosoa dini za wengine badala ya kuhubiri kwa kueneza dini zenu?
kwasababu tumegundua mnapotea ndo maana,huezi muona jamaa yako anaenda kuanguka bondeni usimsitue,hasahasa kama ni mlemavu wa macho.Kwanini mnahgangaika kuhubiri kwakukosoa dini za wengine badala ya kuhubiri kwa kueneza dini zenu?
Kwanini mnahgangaika kuhubiri kwakukosoa dini za wengine badala ya kuhubiri kwa kueneza dini zenu?
Muongo usie na haya wee! Unadanganya watu one more again!
Hayo maandiko yote uliyotoa hakuna moja lililosema majina ya baba zao!
We huyo anaekulipa kusema uongo na kutuletea maandiko yasio husika! Akiona huu utumbo atakufukuza kazi!
We unadhani unaongea na watu wasiolijua andiko?
hivi kuna injili ya daud?Maandiko hayo mnayoyaamini yaliandikwa na malaika au watu? Uzuri wa Ukristo ni uwazi biblia iko wazi ndio maana kila mtu anaweza kuisoma na haifichi kitu. Kuna sababu kwanini biblia iko ilivyo na kwanini vitabu vyenu mnakaririshwa kwa fimbo. Pia kuna sababu kwanini Mungu na ukuu wake anatumia watu tu waliokua kama mimi na wewe kuongea na watu anaweza kutumia malaika ila tangu awali Noah, Moses, David na wengine wengiiii ambao hata mtume wenu anakiri kuwa ni mitume walikuwa wanadamu na walishushiwa maandiko.
Nitakuuliza swali lingine maana la Musa umekwepa. David (mnayemwita Dawood) alichoandika sio neno la Mungu? Halipo ktk 'Quran takatifu'?