Uzi maalum kwa wale wanaopinga uwepo wa Mungu

Ndo mana nasema nyie atheist hamna uwezo wa kufikiria na kujenga hoja zaidi ya kukariri filosofa za watu,
Sasa eti unanilazimisha nikuprovie hakuna tembo wa brown meanwhile mimi nasema yupo.
Nataka unioneshe logically how did you reach to that conclusion kama mungu hayupo! Unless there was no logic involved wakati unafanya maamuzi yako (Which I presume to be true) hapo tena sitoendelea kuargue manake ni maamuzi binafsi
 
Scars said:
Kivipi assertion iwe tena ni conclusion at the same time?

Hiyo ni logic ya wapi?

Haya tufanye mjadala ambao ni rational

Nipe uthibitisho wa uwepo wa Mungu
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Are we arguing about the validity of the assertion I made?
An assertion should be a condition that remains true throughout our logical experiment, it could be derived from the conclusions drawn from previous logically accepted argument
Kuhusu kuthibitisha kama Mungu yupo nilishalizungumza nyuma, tena na wewe mwenyewe so sioni haja ya kurudia
 
Hii hoja ni pointless, this example clearly doesn't work in this context
 
Huwezi ku prove negative kwasababu fact katika logic ni kuwa negative haiwezi kuwa proved au huwezi ku prove negative kwasababu wewe binafsi huwezi ila inawezekana?

Kuna mambo mawili tofauti hapo.

Inawezakuwa ikawa huwezi ku prove kwasababu tu hujaamua au hutaki ila ukawa unazijua procedures.

Sasa mimi nachokitaka ni hizo procedures za kuzifuata ili kuthibisha kisichokuwepo hakipo

Nasema hivyo kwasababu lazima nawewe utakuwa ulikuwa na sababu ya msingi kunisisitizia kuwa nikupe uthibitisho wa kisichopo.

Pengine msisitizo wako ulikuwa na sababu, labda unajua mbinu niambie ni zipi?
 
Ndo mana nakwambia wewe umekariri philosophy,
Ndo unakuja hapa na falsafa zako eti huwezi kuprove negative claim huo ni upuuzi.
Hii ndiyo point iliyokufanya wewe useme huwezi kuprove kama mungu hayupo (sijuwi umetoa kwenye falsafa za wapi but clearly inaonesga uko na poor reasoning and you know nothing about logics)
I can conclude, maamuzi yako yametokana na falsafa na sio logic kwasababu hukuweka logical reasoning ya kufikia maamuzi ya Mungu hayupo
 
Assertion katika logical argument sio madai tupu ambayo yamebeba hitimisho.

Assertion ni premise inayojaribu kufafanua kitu kingine kwa kukionesha kuwa ndio chanzo.

Nyuma wapi? Maana huko ndio tulipotoka na tumefika hapa tulipo kwasababu hilo swali halijajibiwa.
 
Nimekupa uwanja uoneshe ni kwa namna gani unaweza ku prove negative lakini wewe mwenyewe pasipo kulazimishwa na mtu, ukiwa na akili zako timamu (sina hakika sana) umesema huwezi.

Sasa mimi nikisema haiwezekani kuthibitisha negative unaiona mpuuzi.

Hivi yupi mpuuzi hapo?
 
Ujinga ni nini ? Ujinga ni kutokufahamu/kujua jambo

Je wewe kiranga ni mjinga ? Nakujibia hili swali, Ndio ni mjinga kwasababu hujui na haufahamu chochote kuhusu imani pamoja na uwepo wa Mungu.


Hitimisho: Huyo unayemuona mjinga nadhani hata yeye anakuona wewe ni mjinga kwakua haufahamu wala kujua anachokijua.
 
Thibitisha Mungu mjuzi wa yote, mwenye uwezo wote na upendo wote yupo kweli, na kwamba habari za kuwepo kwake si uongo na ujinga tu.
 
Wameprove wanasayansi, usibishe kaka... Fanya research. Dark matter ipo
 
Mungu hayupo, hizo ni nadharia tu
 
Ko Imhotep unaamini Mungu, ambae hujawah hta kumuona?
 
Hujanipa uwanja wa ku-prove Negative, umenipa argument ambayo kimsingi conclusions zangu ziko positive na mada alafu wewe unataka kunilazimisha ni prove negative, mzee kichwa chako ni kizima ??? That's not how things works
Ndo mana nawaambieni mmekunywa falsafa za kipuuzi
 
Ndo mana nawaambieni nyie ni watu wa kukariri falsafa
 
BRAIN BOX said:
Wameprove wanasayansi, usibishe kaka... Fanya research. Dark matter ipo
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Hakuna mwana sayansi aliyeprove uwepo wa dark matter, kafanye research zako vizuri uelewe then come again
Sio unakuja kuleta mtu ambaye hata hujuwi alifanya nn unasema aliprove dark matter
 
We ndo uliekunywa falsafa za uongo za Mtume Muhammad
 
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