average real Madrid ? carried them to what??? when Barcelona beat them 5-0? Or 4-0 at their own stadium? to how many league titles? 2 or 3 in 8 years? is that what he carried them to? you make me laugh, and I'm guessing the Manchester team with scholes, giggs, Ferdinand, vidic, Rooney etc etc that he was in wasn't that great either he just carried them too hahah, pathetic, Messi is the greatest player of all time, swap Messi over with Ronaldo right now and Ronaldo won't be able to do nothing with Barcelona just like no other player can. They're a broken team they need to complete renovate their team, nothing to do with