Wambulu na Wadatooga ndio wakazi wa mwanzo wa Ngororongo. Kadhia ya Ngorongoro haihitaji hisia

Wambulu na Wadatooga ndio wakazi wa mwanzo wa Ngororongo. Kadhia ya Ngorongoro haihitaji hisia

Mkunazi Njiwa said:
Am I Muslim elite ?

No

Am I "mamas parasite"?!!

No

What I know is humanity should be respected and reserved by any means necessary....Israel as a nation has a core rights to exists ,similar to Palestine.

There is an exquisite book "HISTORY OF ZIONISM" by an author NAHUM SOKOLOW ,I advocate you to peruze it.

This book has been opposed by every person who has hatred against Jews....

Personally ,I have neither bigotry nor racist thoughts[emoji7]

Kwa Ngorongoro ni jambo jengine mzee kwani hakuna fikra ya "MASS CLEANSING..."

Upo?!!

#Tanzania Kwanza[emoji7]

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Even Slobadan Milosevic and his acolytes floated similar ideas when they forcibly deported thousands of Bosniak Muslims from their homes. It blew on their faces and only to end up with a genocide.

They waved placards and said similar words of patriotism, zeal and aggrandizement, Slava Serbia and Yugoslavia first. But a good thing about International crimes especially a crime of Genocide, THE INTENT is proven through actions on the ground and systematic policies carried by the government against a certain class of people.

Denial of basic services like water, food, health and electricity, forcible deportations, violent crackdown by the state apparatus etc are essential elements in proving genocidal intent, ethnic cleansing or even crimes against humanity.

This will blow up on her face, and she'll go down in history as the most disgraceful President we've ever had. They put the bait and her greed got the best of her.

And all these Shenanigans for what ? To appease RITZ-CARLTON.

If you think this has got anything to do with Patriotism then you really need to get some help (No offense).​
 
GWAMAKA USWEGE said:
Even Slobadan Milosevic and his acolytes floated the similar ideas when they forcibly deported thousands of Bosniak Muslims from their homes.It ended that they committed a genocide.

They waved placards and said similar words of patriotism and aggrandizement, Slava Serbia and Yugoslavia first. But a good thing about International crimes especially Genocide, is proven through actions and policies carried by the government against a certain class of people.

Denial of basic services like water, food, health and electricity, forcible deportations, violent crackdown by the state apparatus etc are essential elements in proving genocidal intent, ethnic cleansing or crimes against humanity.

This will blow up on her face, and she'll go down in history as the most disgraceful President we've ever had. They put the bait and her greed got the best of her.

And all these Shenanigans for what ? To appease RITZ-CARLTON. If you think this has got to do with Patriotism then you really need to get some help (No offense).​
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Her Excellency President Samia Suluhu Hassan doesn't hold any bad intent against her fellow countrymen.....

Why you have so devastated obsessive compulsive ideas ?!!! [emoji44][emoji44]

Ngorongoro issue has been extensively elaborated but yet few people with their illicit agenda trying to tarnish the awesome image of our leadership ,I don't know why....

The agenda is the conservation of Ngorongoro ecology....

#URT for ever[emoji7]

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Mkunazi Njiwa said:
Her Excellency President Samia Suluhu Hassan doesn't hold any bad intent against her fellow countrymen.....

Why you have so devastated obsessive compulsive ideas ?!!! [emoji44][emoji44]

Ngorongoro issue has been extensively elaborated but yet people with their illicit agenda trying to tarnish the awesome image of our leadership ,I don't know why....

The agenda is the conservation of Ngorongoro ecology....

#URT for ever[emoji7]

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Geez, listen to yourself!

So RITZ-CARLTON has turned into into an international ecological conservation behemoth! Okay.​
 
Mkunazi Njiwa said:
Wakazi wa kimaasai walilivamia hilo eneo la KRETA na kuwafukuza wakazi wake ambao ni WAMBULU na WADATOOGA.

Kadhia ya Ngorongoro haihitaji HISIA bali utulivu wa FIKRA TUNDUIZI...

Ndugu zetu wamaasai hawakuwa wa kwanza kuishi hapo katika ardhi tukufu ya nabii Adam(AS).

Makabila mengi yalipita hapo lakini kabila la mwisho kuishi Ngororongo linaitwa WATANZANIA...

Hapo ni kwa watanzania [emoji7]

#Tanzania kwanza[emoji7]

#JMT milele dumu[emoji7]

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Mbulu toka lini akakaa na wanyama, labda nguruwe lakini sio Simba au tembo
 
Mkunazi Njiwa said:
Wakazi wa kimaasai walilivamia hilo eneo la KRETA na kuwafukuza wakazi wake ambao ni WAMBULU na WADATOOGA.

Kadhia ya Ngorongoro haihitaji HISIA bali utulivu wa FIKRA TUNDUIZI...

Ndugu zetu wamaasai hawakuwa wa kwanza kuishi hapo katika ardhi tukufu ya nabii Adam(AS).

Makabila mengi yalipita hapo lakini kabila la mwisho kuishi Ngororongo linaitwa WATANZANIA...

Hapo ni kwa watanzania [emoji7]

#Tanzania kwanza[emoji7]

#JMT milele dumu[emoji7]

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Asili Tu ya neno ngorongoro ni hao hao wamasai, hivyo hadithi yako ni ya urongo.

Ngorongoro is believed to be an onomatopoeic word termed by the Maasai people of the region to describe the sound of the bell that hangs around the neck of the lead cow in a herd. The bell makes an echoing “ngor ngor” sound, which made the local pastoralists name the area Ngorongoro.
 
mrangi said:
Ngorongoro in English ni big hole

Ova
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Ngorongoro is believed to be an onomatopoeic word termed by the Maasai people of the region to describe the sound of the bell that hangs around the neck of the lead cow in a herd. The bell makes an echoing “ngor ngor” sound, which made the local pastoralists name the area Ngorongoro.
 
Mkunazi Njiwa said:
Wakazi wa kimaasai walilivamia hilo eneo la KRETA na kuwafukuza wakazi wake ambao ni WAMBULU na WADATOOGA.

Kadhia ya Ngorongoro haihitaji HISIA bali utulivu wa FIKRA TUNDUIZI...

Ndugu zetu wamaasai hawakuwa wa kwanza kuishi hapo katika ardhi tukufu ya nabii Adam(AS).

Makabila mengi yalipita hapo lakini kabila la mwisho kuishi Ngororongo linaitwa WATANZANIA...

Hapo ni kwa watanzania [emoji7]

#Tanzania kwanza[emoji7]

#JMT milele dumu[emoji7]

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Ulikuwepo?
 
Mkunazi Njiwa said:
Am I Muslim elite ?

No

Am I "mamas parasite"?!!

No

What I know is , humanity should be respected and reserved by any means necessary....Israel as a nation has a core rights to exist ,similar to Palestine.

There is an exquisite book "HISTORY OF ZIONISM" by an author NAHUM SOKOLOW ,I advocate you to peruze it.

This book has been opposed by every person who has hatred against Jews....

Personally ,I have neither bigotry nor racist thoughts against any human being[emoji7]

Kwa Ngorongoro ni jambo jengine mzee kwani hakuna fikra ya "MASS CLEANSING..."

Upo?!!

#Tanzania Kwanza[emoji7]

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Your comment is a bit like a child playing dressup in grownup clothes trying to sound informed and balancced, but ending up mismatched and ill-fitting. You toss around terms like "humanity" an "rights" as if you own the definitions, but your shallow understanding shows through like a threadbare suit. Quoting books doesn't make you wise, it just makes you look like you're trying too hard to prove something. Maybe next time, come with more substance and less posturing
 
Mkunazi Njiwa said:
Wakazi wa kimaasai walilivamia hilo eneo la KRETA na kuwafukuza wakazi wake ambao ni WAMBULU na WADATOOGA.

Kadhia ya Ngorongoro haihitaji HISIA bali utulivu wa FIKRA TUNDUIZI...

Ndugu zetu wamaasai hawakuwa wa kwanza kuishi hapo katika ardhi tukufu ya nabii Adam(AS).

Makabila mengi yalipita hapo lakini kabila la mwisho kuishi Ngororongo linaitwa WATANZANIA...

Hapo ni kwa watanzania [emoji7]

#Tanzania kwanza[emoji7]

#JMT milele dumu[emoji7]

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Mtu anayetumia TECNO haniambii kitu.
 
PakiJinja said:
Your comment is a bit like a child playing dressup in grownup clothes trying to sound informed and balancced, but ending up mismatched and ill-fitting. You toss around terms like "humanity" an "rights" as if you own the definitions, but your shallow understanding shows through like a threadbare suit. Quoting books doesn't make you wise, it just makes you look like you're trying too hard to prove something. Maybe next time, come with more substance and less posturing
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I like this comment.
 
Mkunazi Njiwa said:
Wakazi wa kimaasai walilivamia hilo eneo la KRETA na kuwafukuza wakazi wake ambao ni WAMBULU na WADATOOGA.

Kadhia ya Ngorongoro haihitaji HISIA bali utulivu wa FIKRA TUNDUIZI...

Ndugu zetu wamaasai hawakuwa wa kwanza kuishi hapo katika ardhi tukufu ya nabii Adam(AS).

Makabila mengi yalipita hapo lakini kabila la mwisho kuishi Ngororongo linaitwa WATANZANIA...

Hapo ni kwa watanzania [emoji7]

#Tanzania kwanza[emoji7]

#JMT milele dumu[emoji7]

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Hiyo ndiyo historia mnayofundishwa huko Kizimkazi...!?
 
Mkunazi Njiwa said:
Wakazi wa kimaasai walilivamia hilo eneo la KRETA na kuwafukuza wakazi wake ambao ni WAMBULU na WADATOOGA.

Kadhia ya Ngorongoro haihitaji HISIA bali utulivu wa FIKRA TUNDUIZI...

Ndugu zetu wamaasai hawakuwa wa kwanza kuishi hapo katika ardhi tukufu ya nabii Adam(AS).

Makabila mengi yalipita hapo lakini kabila la mwisho kuishi Ngororongo linaitwa WATANZANIA...

Hapo ni kwa watanzania [emoji7]

#Tanzania kwanza[emoji7]

#JMT milele dumu[emoji7]

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Kwanza Tanzania hakuna kabila linaloitwa wambulu... Rudi darasani na acha kututukana
 
Mkunazi Njiwa said:
Wakazi wa kimaasai walilivamia hilo eneo la KRETA na kuwafukuza wakazi wake ambao ni WAMBULU na WADATOOGA.

Ndugu zetu wamaasai hawakuwa wa kwanza kuishi hapo katika ardhi tukufu ya nabii Adam(AS).
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Rekebisha kidogo tuu, Wamasai hawakuvamia Ngorongoro bali mwaka 1959 walihamishwa kutoka Serengeti kwenda Ngorongoro na kuhifadhiwa humo, ikiwemo kula bure na huduma zote za jamii bure. Eneo hilo sio la Wambulu wala Wadatooga bali hao walikuwa wahamiaji tuu kama walivyo Wasukuma kule Ihefu au Wamasai wa Chalinze.

Wamasai walio Hampsthwaite kutoka Serengeti walikuwa ni elfu 8 tuu!, sasa wamezaliana na wengine kuvamia vya bure!, wako malaki kiasi cha kutishia ecological situation ya Ngorongoro, lazima wahamishwe kwa hiari, ikishindikana then ni kwa lazima!.
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Chaliifrancisco said:
Kondoa hapo kuna Wasandawe ambao asili yao na ndugu zao wapo South Africa wanaitwa Khoisans(Xhosa).
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Mkuu Chaliifrancisco , thanks for this kumbe Wasandawe ni Khoisans, Wanganui ni Zulu waliletwa Tanzania na Zongendamba baada ya kukimbia vita vya Mfecene. Tanzania pia tuna Nilotic na Semi Nilotic from North Africa. Hata Wachagga ni Wakamba wa Kenya waliovamia Tanzania. Wajaluo ni Waluo wa Kenya waliovamia Tanzania, Wamasai ni Semi Nilotic waliovamia Tanzania. Wahaya ni watu wa Bunyoro Kingdom waliovamia Tanzania wakiongozwa na Mkama Rumanyika. Wamakonde na Chingaz ni wavamizi kutoka Msumbiji. Wale Wanyasa ni wavamizi kutoka Malawi.

Makabila asili wa Tanzania ni Bantustans ambao ni Wagogo, Wasukuma, Wahehe na makabila machache sana.

Wakoloni nao wakapiga mipaka na kukata baadhi ya makabila kuwa nchi mbili tofauti.

Thanks tu uhuru, kila aliyekuwepo kwenye ardhi ya Tanganyika ile saa 5:59 usiku wa tarehe 8 Desemba 1961, alipata Utanganyika bure.
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Pascal Mayalla said:
Rekebisha kidogo tuu, Wamasai hawakuvamia Ngorongoro bali mwaka 1959 walihamishwa kutoka Serengeti kwenda Ngorongoro na kuhifadhiwa humo, ikiwemo kula bure na huduma zote za jamii bure. Eneo hilo sio la Wambulu wala Wadatooga bali hao walikuwa wahamiaji tuu kama walivyo Wasukuma kule Ihefu au Wamasai wa Chalinze.

Wamasai walio Hampsthwaite kutoka Serengeti walikuwa ni elfu 8 tuu!, sasa wamezaliana na wengine kuvamia vya bure!, wako malaki kiasi cha kutishia ecological situation ya Ngorongoro, lazima wahamishwe kwa hiari, ikishindikana then ni kwa lazima!.
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Unachosema wewe ndiyo nliambiwaga huko na mzee mmoja wa kimasai maarufu huko anaitwa clemence,anaijuwa historia nZuri sana ya ngorongoro

Utakuta limits humu lina Google tu hata ngorongoro yenyewe hajawahi fika

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Mkunazi Njiwa said:
Wakazi wa kimaasai walilivamia hilo eneo la KRETA na kuwafukuza wakazi wake ambao ni WAMBULU na WADATOOGA.

Kadhia ya Ngorongoro haihitaji HISIA bali utulivu wa FIKRA TUNDUIZI...

Ndugu zetu wamaasai hawakuwa wa kwanza kuishi hapo katika ardhi tukufu ya nabii Adam(AS).

Makabila mengi yalipita hapo lakini kabila la mwisho kuishi Ngororongo linaitwa WATANZANIA...

Hapo ni kwa watanzania [emoji7]

#Tanzania kwanza[emoji7]

#JMT milele dumu[emoji7]

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Naunga mkono hoja;
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Kabla ya karne ya 17 walikuwa huko Sudan wana migrate. Walipofika Serngeti wakawakuta Watatoga ndiyo wakawa displace na kuishi wao.

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Wamasai walikuwa wanaishi Serengeti kabla ya Mkoloni hajawahamisha ili ku establish Serengeti National Park kwa sheria ya mwaka 1951
 
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