Wanasheria Njaa: Mnaaibisha Fani nzima ya Sheria

Wanasheria Njaa: Mnaaibisha Fani nzima ya Sheria

Sista said:
Hii kazi hatta yes.u aliilaani
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Please Sista, defend this with evidence! Where and what did Jesus actually say that cursed our legal profession?

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It's really hard for laymen to understand the undoubted importance of Legal profession, unless obviously, they need assistance when their contracts are breached, or when their rights are violated or when any crime is acted against them.
On my side, no matter what, this is one of the most noble carriers ever to develop. Let us keep doing what we studied and devoted to do for the society, my dear learned brothers and sisters.

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Nyani Ngabu and SheRRIF ARPIAO you are rightly trying to make members think beyond but I doubt whether it will help the good man (mleta hoja) as he know nothing of this proffession
 
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Lugano1 said:
It's really hard for laymen to understand the undoubted importance of Legal profession, unless obviously, they need assistance when their contracts are breached, or when their rights are violated or when any crime is acted against them.
On my side, no matter what, this is one of the most noble carriers ever to develop. Let us keep doing what we studied and devoted to do for the society, my dear learned brothers and sisters.

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Other professions are noble too. When you need security protection, you call on the police, you call on the military. Theirs too is noble, not ignoble.

When you get sick, you go to healthcare professionals. Don't tell me theirs is ignoble.

Is teaching ignoble? Hell no. What about farming? Well, they feed your ass.

Most professions are noble. So stop acting like the whole world revolves around lawyering. It doesn't.
 
Ushasema wewe sio mwanasheria hivyo haitakuwa busara kujibizana na wewe, zaidi unatakiwa utambue sheria ni proffessional tena ya kipekee ukitaka kuijua lazima usomee kwa kipindi fulani.
 
Kamili Gado said:
Kama kichwa chako kipo vizuri nenda kasome japo ka diploma ka sheria ukitoka hapo utakuwa umepata jibu la hoja yako. kwa hivyo ulivyo huwezi kuelewa hata ukielezwa namna gani coz you have already pre empted your mind.
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mmm kila mtu akisoma sheria patakalika kweli? wahandisi pia mkumbvu8kage sheria tunazisoma ilasio za kiivyo za kutetea unachokijuani kosa
 
nameless girl said:
Uki Disco masomo ya sheria mwaka wa mwisho (maana unakua umesoma mengi, sivo?) naweza kukuita mwanasheria?
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Kama hujahitimu huwezi kuwa mwanasheria. Lakini unaweza kuwa mwanasheria na usiwe wakili. Kwa hiyo, si kila mwanasheria ni wakili. Lakini kila aliyesomea sheria (na kuhitimu shahada au stashahada) ni mwanasheria.

Kwa sababu hata ukidisko sosholojia mwaka wa mwisho huwezi kuwa mwanasosholojia. Na vivyo hivyo kwa fani zingine.
 
Nyani Ngabu said:
Kama hujahitimu huwezi kuwa mwanasheria. Lakini unaweza kuwa mwanasheria na usiwe wakili. Kwa hiyo, si kila mwanasheria ni wakili. Lakini kila aliyesomea sheria (na kuhitimu shahada au stashahada) ni mwanasheria.

Kwa sababu hata ukidisko sosholojia mwaka wa mwisho huwezi kuwa mwanasosholojia. Na vivyo hivyo kwa fani zingine.
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l do understand that.
Ila asante sana kwa kunikumbusha.

Point yangu ya kuuliza hilo, ilimwelekea mtoa mada anaesema "...kila mtu akisomea sheria patakalika..."
Nilitaka tu kuprove for him kua si kila aliyesoma sheria basi ni mwanasheria, na si kila mtu anaweza kusomea sheria.
Si ajabu angeishia kula Disco lake akakimbia fani.
 
Lugano1 said:
Please Sista, defend this with evidence! Where and what did Jesus actually say that cursed our legal profession?

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Mhh naona umenijia juu kama moshi wa kifu, usijenikacha kunitetea kwenye kesi yangu nikija hukoo
 
Nyani Ngabu said:
Other professions are noble too. When you need security protection, you call on the police, you call on the military. Theirs too is noble, not ignoble.

When you get sick, you go to healthcare professionals. Don't tell me theirs is ignoble.

Is teaching ignoble? Hell no. What about farming? Well, they feed your ass.

Most professions are noble. So stop acting like the whole world revolves around lawyering. It doesn't.
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Hahahahaaaaaaa!! The matter I addressed Mr. Ngabu is on the matter of legal profession. I never said in my writings that any profession is not noble, well not mentioning in particular. But anyways, I understand your point, still however standing on my point that legal profession is among the noble professions in this world.

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SHERRIF ARPAIO said:
It's still legal. There are hundreds if not thousands of ambulance chasing lawyers in most big cities in the US.
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can you distinguish what does it mean by legal and illegal.from what you are saying is that in those big cities it is lawful to do suc acts.
If that the case,you are wrong,those who do that they violate their profession rules.
 
MKWELItu said:
mmm kila mtu akisoma sheria patakalika kweli? wahandisi pia mkumbvu8kage sheria tunazisoma ilasio za kiivyo za kutetea unachokijuani kosa
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my friend, ninyi wengine ambao sio wanasheria, sheria mnasoma kidogo sana na ndio maana hamuitwi wanasheria, ikimaanisha kuwa, kwa mtu kuitwa mwanasheria kuna kitu cha ziada anacho ambacho watu wengine hata wakisoma aina hata tano za sheria, awe na certificate au hata diploma ya sheria, hawezi kuitwa mwanasheria, mpaka asome awe na degree ya LLB. ukisoma degree hiyo na zingine za kuendelea kama LLM hadi Phd ya sheria, kuna sheria nyingi mno unazisoma, na kuna kitu cha ziada ambacho mtu asiye mwanasheria hawezi kuja kuwa nacho maisha yake yote.

so msije kujidanganya mfano watu wa biashara mnaposoma contract law na visheria vingine vichache vinavyohusiana na profession zenu, mkasema ninyi pia ni wanasheria kwasababu mmesoma sheria hizo chache, there's something beyond that. mwanasheria ni mtu aliyepikwa na kufunzwa kuwa mwanasheria sio wa aina moja au mbili au fulani tu ya sheria, bali hata sheria mpya ikitungwa leo, mwanasheria amepikwa kuitafisiri/to interpret it na kuielewa . nimeongea hivi ili kuweka demarcation kati ya waliosoma profession nyingine na waliosoma LLB. ili kusudi mtu asije kusoma kasatifiketi kake ka sheria, au kachanganyiwa tusheria tungapi tu kwenye profession yake akasema na yeye anajua sheria. unaweza kusoma sheria kwenye uinjinia au sheria iliyochanganywa kwenye masomo ya biashara lakini ukashindwa kuitafisiri ile sheria, na zaidi ya yote mambo ya sheria huwa yanaingiliana, yanaingiliana na sheria nyingine, case law etc. SHERIA KWA KISWAHILI
 
MAKINYA said:
can you distinguish what does it mean by legal and illegal.from what you are saying is that in those big cities it is lawful to do suc acts.
If that the case,you are wrong,those who do that they violate their profession rules.
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Conforming to the law
Not forbidden by law

Here are some of the ambulance chasing lawyers on duty......................
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IDUNDA said:
unaweza kusoma sheria kwenye uinjinia au sheria iliyochanganywa kwenye masomo ya biashara lakini ukashindwa kuitafisiri ile sheria, na zaidi ya yote mambo ya sheria huwa yanaingiliana, yanaingiliana na sheria nyingine, case law etc.
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Hivi mtu atashindwaje kuitafsiri sheria? Na mwanasheria yeye ana uwezo gani zaidi ambao watu wengine wasio wanasheria hawana, ambao unaomwezesha yeye kuweza kutafsiri sheria?

Na hapa unazungumzia tafsiri. Tafsiri mara nyingi huwa si objective bali huwa subjective. Kwa hiyo, je, inawezekana ukapata wanasheria tofauti na kila mmoja wao akawa na tafsiri yake?

Kama ni hivyo (kila mwanasheria akawa na tafsiri yake), iweje sasa kwa mtu asiye mwanasheria naye akawa na tafsiri yake lakini tafsiri yake hiyo ikaonekana kana kwamba si sahihi (kama kuna usahihi kwenye tafsiri) bali ile ya mwanasheria ndiyo sahihi ilhali tafsiri huwa ziko subjective?
 
Nyani Ngabu said:
Hivi mtu atashindwaje kuitafsiri sheria? Na mwanasheria yeye ana uwezo gani zaidi ambao watu wengine wasio wanasheria hawana, ambao unaomwezesha yeye kuweza kutafsiri sheria?

Na hapa unazungumzia tafsiri. Tafsiri mara nyingi huwa si objective bali huwa subjective. Kwa hiyo, je, inawezekana ukapata wanasheria tofauti na kila mmoja wao akawa na tafsiri yake?

Kama ni hivyo (kila mwanasheria akawa na tafsiri yake), iweje sasa kwa mtu asiye mwanasheria naye akawa na tafsiri yake lakini tafsiri yake hiyo ikaonekana kana kwamba si sahihi (kama kuna usahihi kwenye tafsiri) bali ile ya mwanasheria ndiyo sahihi ilhali tafsiri huwa ziko subjective?
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hapo kwenye red, ni vigumu sana kuelewa nilichoongea kama wewe sio mwanasheria, hapo ulipo unaweza kufikiri unao uwezo au unajua kitu kumbe haujui na hautakuja kujua ninachoongea hadi uwe mwanasheria.
 
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