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Who created God? Who made him? Where did he come from?
Who created God? Who made him? Where did he come from?
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Duh, hazifiti hizi maisha ya sasa? Labda utuambie zako zinazofiti. Nimeanzia amri ya 4 kwa sababu amri ya 1 mpk ya 3 zinahusu binadamu na Mungu na amri ya 4 mpk ya 10 ni kati ya binadamu na mwenzake.
4. Waheshimu wazazi wako upate heri duniani
5. Usiue
6. Usizini
7. Usiibe
8. Usishuhudie uongo
9. Usitamani mke/mume asie wako
10. Usitamani mali ya mtu mwingine
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Rudi katika jibu langu kuhusu ten commandments usome uelewe naona hujaelewa vizur.maana,sikuhitaji zitajwe.
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1. You claimed the quran states "all living things contain water." As you have proven, the quran says all living things are made of water! There is a big difference between "contain water" and "made of water."
2. Cells are not mentioned in the quran!
3. 66%-80% is not mentioned in the quran.
Please stop lying.
That is not logic, it is what I referred to as "retrofitting the verses" in order to make them relevant today. None of those bold claims you made are mentioned in the quran and you have to explain everything away to make it fit your narrative.
I will remind you that the quran borrows heavily from the bible, the torah and the thousands of scholars that came before it. In simple terms, the authors of the quran copied and pasted all the predominant errors that existed at that time.
Human beings are not made of blood, water and least of all clay. This is a simplistic, bronze age understanding of human life. The basic unit of life is a cell.
Again, Evidence please!
Aristotle was not infallible, I am pretty sure he was wrong on many issues, but that does not take away from the the fact that he one, among thousands of scholars before him who wrongly believed that humans were made of waterthousands of years before the authors of the quran repeated the same statement.
These are complete books that delve into our anatomy! Ignoring the fact that I have already listed this information will not make them disappear.
By Mekatilili
The following books were written between 2000 and 4000 years before muhammad
Ayurvedic
1. Charaka Samhita
2. Shushruta Samhita
3. Bower Manuscript
Hippocrates
1. Corpus Hippocraticum: These collection was written over 1500 years before muhammad and the advance the idea of humors
Aristotle, Galen and Dioscorides: All wrote books over 900 years before muhammad advancing the idea that the human was made of water.
Again, the quran is not a scientific text.
The quran states that salt water and fresh water do not mix. I urge everyone reading to collect some sea water or some salt water and mix with fresh water. Very scientific?
Islam was founded in the year 610 CE. A majority of the old testament stories, from Adam to Jesus were all copied from the early bibles and the torahs, revised, and pasted into the quran. Copy, edit, paste.
You do not get this, living things are not made from water! Show me any scientist or scientific text that makes this claim. You are scientifically wrong! This is primary school science!
If your logic was to be followed then is a cup of water is alive?
Water itself is made of Hydrogen and Oxygen. Please do not claim that the quran states that human beings are made of hydrogen and oxygen. These ancient people did not even know that water was made up of two elements.
Living things are made of cells. This is basic science!
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Kwa mimi naamini Mungu ni roho ni wa milele hana mwanzo wala mwisho and he's a creator of everything including time itself so he exists outside time so hatuezi kusema mwanzo wake.
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differentiate a human and GOD
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According to your reasoning
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answer my questions failure to that your feedback is invalid
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to my response i concur once again you know nothing rather than defending scientists ,if not answer my questions failure to that what you are defending is invalid.
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Ndiyo.
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That is a logical fallacy. The onus is one you to prove that he exists. You are the one making the extraordinary claim.
This is like me saying that I have a flying cow and telling you to prove that my flying cow doesn't exist.
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Express yourself in complete and coherent sentences and your question will be answered.
Your writing is incomprehensible. That is what I am trying to tell you but it appears you are consumed by an insatiable urge to argue with me.
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Mankind had already figured these things out. For millennia, before the creation of the Abrahamic god, man by enlarge knew these things. We are social animals after all
Not a single one of the commandments was revolutionary, they instead underscore the fact that god is a human construct with petty human emotions like jealousy, anger...
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its not the matter of expressing or arguing its the matter of you answering my questions failure to that whatever the feedback apart from answers to my questions is invalid
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GOD is not a subject of creation. Creation does not mark his beginning neither ending. Creation comes from HIM. So must be thinking HE is beyond creation. From when your brain can think of the word "creation" GOD was there. This act of creation in the fact came after the presence of GOD and GOD created the "creation" In the same philosophical analysis GOD can not be created. HE is the MASTER of CREATION - HE is ALPHA and OMEGA meaning HE does not have BEGINNING neither END. It is for example if (Say name 1701) can bake a cake and afterwards someone asks which cake baked 1701. It can not be possible for cake baked to bake human. That is the most precise answer to your simple question. Creation can not be in any way used to create GOD. Same like a cake to be able to bake human.
If you will comprehend this explanation above, you will therefore that be able to only see GOD as the Master of Creation; seen and unseen and you will not find any need to ask about HIS creation as it is now revealed irrelevant for HIM. HE deserved more than this - Almighty GOD.
Since HE does not have BEGINNING neither END we can not think of HIS BEGINNING neither END for they both do not exist.
This will clear your doubts and many questions you might have been thinking bout the Almighty GOD.
If you will comprehend this explanation above, you will therefore that be able to only see GOD as the Master of Creation; seen and unseen and you will not find any need to ask about HIS creation as it is now revealed irrelevant for HIM. HE deserved more than this - Almighty GOD.
Since HE does not have BEGINNING neither END we can not think of HIS BEGINNING neither END for they both do not exist.
This will clear your doubts and many questions you might have been thinking bout the Almighty GOD.
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The universe is the way it is ,
whether we like
it or not. The existence or nonexistence of
a creator is independent
of our desires . A world without God or
purpose may seem harsh
or pointless, but that alone doesn ' t
require God to actually exist.
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#A Universe from Nothing#
The amazing thing is that every
atom in your body came from a star that
exploded. And, the atoms in your left
hand probably came from a different star
than your right hand. It really is the most
poetic thing I know about physics: You
are all stardust. You couldnt be here if
stars hadnt exploded, because the
elements - the carbon, nitrogen, oxygen,
iron, all the things that matter for
evolution - werent created at the
beginning of time. They were created in
the nuclear furnaces of stars, and the
only way they could get into your body is
if those stars were kind enough to
explode. So, forget Jesus. The stars died
so that you could be here today.
The amazing thing is that every
atom in your body came from a star that
exploded. And, the atoms in your left
hand probably came from a different star
than your right hand. It really is the most
poetic thing I know about physics: You
are all stardust. You couldnt be here if
stars hadnt exploded, because the
elements - the carbon, nitrogen, oxygen,
iron, all the things that matter for
evolution - werent created at the
beginning of time. They were created in
the nuclear furnaces of stars, and the
only way they could get into your body is
if those stars were kind enough to
explode. So, forget Jesus. The stars died
so that you could be here today.
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the universe is big and old and, as
a result, rare events happen all the time.
Go out some night into the woods or
desert where you can see stars and hold
up your hand to the sky, making a tiny
circle between your thumb and forefinger
about the size of a dime. Hold it up to a
dark patch of the sky where there are no
visible stars. In that dark patch, with a
large enough telescope of the type we
now have in service today, you could
discern perhaps 100,000 galaxies, each
containing billions of stars. Since
supernovae explode once per hundred
years per, with 100,000 galaxies in view,
you should expect to see, on average,
about three stars explode on a given
night.
a result, rare events happen all the time.
Go out some night into the woods or
desert where you can see stars and hold
up your hand to the sky, making a tiny
circle between your thumb and forefinger
about the size of a dime. Hold it up to a
dark patch of the sky where there are no
visible stars. In that dark patch, with a
large enough telescope of the type we
now have in service today, you could
discern perhaps 100,000 galaxies, each
containing billions of stars. Since
supernovae explode once per hundred
years per, with 100,000 galaxies in view,
you should expect to see, on average,
about three stars explode on a given
night.
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#Natural Selection#
The total amount of suffering per
year in the natural world is beyond all
decent contemplation. During the minute
that it takes me to compose this
sentence, thousands of animals are being
eaten alive, many others are running for
their lives, whimpering with fear, others
are slowly being devoured from within by
rasping parasites, thousands of all kinds
are dying of starvation, thirst, and
disease. It must be so. If there ever is a
time of plenty, this very fact will
automatically lead to an increase in the
population until the natural state of
starvation and misery is restored. In a
universe of electrons and selfish genes,
blind physical forces and genetic
replication, some people are going to get
hurt, other people are going to get lucky,
and you won't find any rhyme or reason
in it, nor any justice. The universe that
we observe has precisely the properties
we should expect if there is, at bottom,
no design, no purpose, no evil, no good,
nothing but pitiless indifference .
The total amount of suffering per
year in the natural world is beyond all
decent contemplation. During the minute
that it takes me to compose this
sentence, thousands of animals are being
eaten alive, many others are running for
their lives, whimpering with fear, others
are slowly being devoured from within by
rasping parasites, thousands of all kinds
are dying of starvation, thirst, and
disease. It must be so. If there ever is a
time of plenty, this very fact will
automatically lead to an increase in the
population until the natural state of
starvation and misery is restored. In a
universe of electrons and selfish genes,
blind physical forces and genetic
replication, some people are going to get
hurt, other people are going to get lucky,
and you won't find any rhyme or reason
in it, nor any justice. The universe that
we observe has precisely the properties
we should expect if there is, at bottom,
no design, no purpose, no evil, no good,
nothing but pitiless indifference .