Why should Magufuli reject Sylvia Mulinge as Vodacom CEO

[MTK]

So tell me one success story of a Kenyan in managing director position in Tanzania. Sorry, I don't know any so far! And I have researched the subject.

Wacha ulevi wa matamko! Uzalendo usio na tija hauna maana, tupate watu wenye uwezo, weledi na maono sahihi, watalivusha taifa letu, mlundukano wa wajinga wengi wanaoshangilia na kupiga makofi tu; kila wanalolishwa sawa kazi yao kugonga meza, haitusaidii kama taifa kwa sababu hakuna mwenye HAKI MILIKI YA NJI YETU!

 

[eliakeem]

Tanzanians working in Kenya = 0
Kenyans working in Tanzania = Thousands

That's a discredit. If people leave their country to seek jobs in other countries that is a weakness. Seem the country of original has a severe unemployment problem.

 

[Geza Ulole]

Wacha ulevi wa matamko! Uzalendo usio na tija hauna maana, tupate watu wenye uwezo, weledi na maono sahihi, watalivusha taifa letu, mlundukano wa wajinga wengi wanaoshangilia na kupiga makofi tu; kila wanalolishwa sawa kazi yao kugonga meza, haitusaidii kama taifa kwa sababu hakuna mwenye HAKI MILIKI YA NJI YETU!

I asked for one success story of Kenyan involvement in the running of Tanzanian companies! One plse.

 

[GeniSys101]

Am allergic to poor english sorry!

Hongera Mwingereza

 

[Oii]

When I saw her portfolio, that was the first thing that came to my mind.
Apart frm that, people like her need to be given like 10 bright Kenyan university graduates every 2 years to mentor as future CEO's, not wasting there efforts serving ungratfull ppl

The payment my guy, the greener pastures.

 

[kadoda11]

You could have done better if you pointed out anything false in the analysis (the thread in question). The guy has done his homework, he has given waterproof examples if not evidences. I have a reason to believe that you are one of the beneficiaries of the sabotage he has pointed out. Kilangila.

i have been having this strange feeling for a long time that this guy who calls himself MTK is a malawian.

i will comeback to explain in details about his nationality.

 

[LadyRed]

those shareholders include me as I bought shares. My government should protect me.

Hongera sana...but level of influence ya shares zako inategemea na chance ulonayo kufanya maamuzi...sa unamiliki asilimia ngapi ya voda mkuu.?
And a shareholder assess risks and invest wisely

 

[LadyRed]

yes he has he can institute laws share exchange should only occur at DSE! And since the public has 25% is the second largest shareholder, then should be given a first priority.

Twende taratibu ...merger ya Safaricom ya Kenya na Voda SA iwe listed DSE au?.hii ni independent event btn Kenya na SA share exchange to only happen in DSE on what grounds?.are u assuming Magu can unlimitedly order other jurisdictions?.well we all know that isnt the case

Listing ya Voda DSE ni VTL-Voda Tanzania Ltd sio group
Ss msimix habari jamani ohoooo

 

[Kamukhm]

Kivipi serikali iingilie masuala ya Uongozi ya sekta binafsi? Au Magufuli naye ni shareholder wa Vodacom Mwenye controlling interest?

Milambo Holdings na Vodacom S.A wametulia, Magufuli anaingiaje hapa?

Kaka kuna economic intelligence.. Kwann USA wabail out private financial institutions.. Kwann Qatar wafanye same thing?!

Once kampuni inapokuwa kubwa sana.. Hata kama ni yako inaanza kubeba public interest.. Inalipa kodi kubwa, inaajiri watu wengi nk. Yote haya ni muhimu na yanabidi yalindwe na taifa.

Mchezo wanaoufanya wakenya ni mchezo common.. Kama anavyozungumza Geza Ulole.. Wanaletwa katika makumpuni ya kitanzania kwa lengo moja kama sio mawili..

Mosi kuua ushindani wa kibiashara ..kwa mfano Safaricom vs Vodacom.. Na pili kuhamishia ajira Kenya. Unapoua makampuni yetu kwa kuweka uongozi mbaya au ule unaodhamiria kuua..unasababisha watanzania kukosa ajira ..kisha unapunguza uzalishaji hivyo kuongeza imports of (service/goods).. Either way ni hasara kwa Tanzania na faida kwa Kenya..

Kama rais anapaswa kuingilia kama anahisi public interest zinakuwa matatani.

 

[Geza Ulole]

Hongera sana...but level of influence ya shares zako inategemea na chance ulonayo kufanya maamuzi...sa unamiliki asilimia ngapi ya voda mkuu.?
And a shareholder assess risks and invest wisely

I know but at least I have expressed my reservation.

 

[LadyRed]

That's a discredit. If people leave their country to seek jobs in other countries that is a weakness. Seem the country of original has a severe unemployment problem.

*country of origin

 

[LadyRed]

Kaka kuna economic intelligence.. Kwann USA wabail out private financial institutions.. Kwann Qatar wafanye same thing?!

Once kampuni inapokuwa kubwa sana.. Hata kama ni yako inaanza kubeba public interest.. Inalipa kodi kubwa, inaajiri watu wengi nk. Yote haya ni muhimu na yanabidi yalindwe na taifa.

Mchezo wanaoufanya wakenya ni mchezo common.. Kama anavyozungumza Geza Ulole.. Wanaletwa katika makumpuni ya kitanzania kwa lengo moja kama sio mawili..

Mosi kuua ushindani wa kibiashara ..kwa mfano Safaricom vs Vodacom.. Na pili kuhamishia ajira Kenya. Unapoua makampuni yetu kwa kuweka uongozi mbaya au ule unaodhamiria kuua..unasababisha watanzania kukosa ajira ..kisha unapunguza uzalishaji hivyo kuongeza imports of (service/goods).. Either way ni hasara kwa Tanzania na faida kwa Kenya..

Kama rais anapaswa kuingilia kama anahisi public interest zinakuwa matatani.

Rais anaingiliaje..kukataa wageni?.japokua wanafata sheria
Kuwachagulia Group who to employ?.
Hii ishu ni ya kidiplomasia rather lobbying haihitaji nguvu ya tamko jukwaani km ilivozoeleka mana hio nguvu kwny Kampuni binafsi hana...

 

[Geza Ulole]

Kaka kuna economic intelligence.. Kwann USA wabail out private financial institutions.. Kwann Qatar wafanye same thing?!

Once kampuni inapokuwa kubwa sana.. Hata kama ni yako inaanza kubeba public interest.. Inalipa kodi kubwa, inaajiri watu wengi nk. Yote haya ni muhimu na yanabidi yalindwe na taifa.

Mchezo wanaoufanya wakenya ni mchezo common.. Kama anavyozungumza Geza Ulole.. Wanaletwa katika makumpuni ya kitanzania kwa lengo moja kama sio mawili..

Mosi kuua ushindani wa kibiashara ..kwa mfano Safaricom vs Vodacom.. Na pili kuhamishia ajira Kenya. Unapoua makampuni yetu kwa kuweka uongozi mbaya au ule unaodhamiria kuua..unasababisha watanzania kukosa ajira ..kisha unapunguza uzalishaji hivyo kuongeza imports of (service/goods).. Either way ni hasara kwa Tanzania na faida kwa Kenya..

Kama rais anapaswa kuingilia kama anahisi public interest zinakuwa matatani.

I believe PW would be flying across Africa by now if not internal interference from Nrb. That partnership was meant to take PW to a certain level n not beyond that. See now after feeding KQ passengers at JKIA for years, Jambojet a budget airline is to be plying the same routes PW is operating n yet KQ representatives sit in PW board meeting. If u guys can't learn that then Magufuli can. Enough is enough.

 

[LadyRed]

I know but at least I have expressed my reservation.

Okay but i hope u understand Magu doesnt have the power to reject the lady...i think he can point a concern rather and push for the appointment of a Tanzanian national

 

[Kamukhm]

Rais anaingiliaje..kukataa wageni?.japokua wanafata sheria
Kuwachagulia Group who to employ?.
Hii ishu ni ya kidiplomasia rather lobbying haihitaji nguvu ya tamko jukwaani km ilivozoeleka mana hio nguvu kwny Kampuni binafsi hana...

Kaka kuna wakati tuache yaende. Haji kwa nia njema na kwa Taasis ya Urais lazima ijue hilo.. Ukiona hivyo mkubwa anasema basi ujue huenda mizizi ni mikubwa na minene mno..

Huenda facilitators wapo hapa nchini na wapo katika sehemu nyeti ambazo zingeweza kuondoa shaka ya vitu kama hivi.

Hii partly ni kazi ya usalama wa Taifa. Kama imetokea Mara zote huenda hakuna wataalam wabobezi au waliopo ni mamluki na sio wazalendo.. Hatuwezi kuacha na vodacom ife kidiplomasia.

 

[Geza Ulole]

Okay but i hope u understand Magu doesnt have the power to reject the lady...i think he can point a concern rather and push for the appointment of a Tanzanian national

He has on protecting We the public that has 25% plus Rostam's 17%. Just like Uhuru intervened with KQ's debt saga n swapped with a stake for ur local banks to avoid receivership or just like Uhuruto instigated NMG to fire Gado, the same can happen here! Uthamaki thing! BTW I really loved the Magufuli's dadeline to Vodacom to migrate to our national data center. Huu ujinga wa Mpesa Tanzania kutumia server za Kenya haukai sawa kabisa!

 

[salari]

I bet u wish me to tell u what I do! FYI I am in a good place and not even in Tanzania and I assure u giving a Kenyan a chance to run Vodacom Plc at this time is a purely monkey business! Get to know first why Safaricom was acquired by Vodacom SA first! I don't like this quasi Safaricom+Vodacom partnership as will limit Vodacom prospects.

I have mentioned several old scenarios on that acquisition part aside incompetence of Kenyans. Magufuli should not let that continue to happen. He should keep Kenyans at bay in the next 8 years n believe me this economy will prosper.

Duh kwa hiyo mkuu wakenya ndo chanzo cha uchumi wa Tz kuwa na hali uliyo nayo sasa? hatareeeee!!

 

[mwaswast]

Huku JPM anazindua ukuta.

 

[LadyRed]

Kaka kuna wakati tuache yaende. Haji kwa nia njema na kwa Taasis ya Urais lazima ijue hilo.. Ukiona hivyo mkubwa anasema basi ujue huenda mizizi ni mikubwa na minene mno..

Huenda facilitators wapo hapa nchini na wapo katika sehemu nyeti ambazo zingeweza kuondoa shaka ya vitu kama hivi.

Hii partly ni kazi ya usalama wa Taifa. Kama imetokea Mara zote huenda hakuna wataalam wabobezi au waliopo ni mamluki na sio wazalendo.. Hatuwezi kuacha na vodacom ife kidiplomasia.

I think u guys are overrating Kenyans mnooo...hao ma MD wakenya ni wangapi em tutajieni...
Naowajua mimi wako at Managerial/Director levels
As if telecom industry imekua taken na Kenyans na as if serikali imeweka mtaji mkubwa hapo...
I agree perhaps they need to keep an eye but on Vodacom the govt has only a regulatory role they cant reject her..tustick kwenye mada

 

[LadyRed]

Duh kwa hiyo mkuu wakenya ndo chanzo cha uchumi wa Tz kuwa na hali uliyo nayo sasa? hatareeeee!!

Hatari sanaa...i wonderrr