Agriculture,Fisheries and livestock in Tanzania - East Africa

[Iconoclastes]

Mm, kwahiyo umekaa hapo unajiaminisha kwamba, ni mkenya mweusi ndio ana promote bidhaa za Kenya nje. Na wale settlers wenye mashamba makubwa kenya wanafanya nini? Au waliokuwa Zimbabwe waliokuwa wanafanaya nini? Kama sio kushikilia ardhi na kuzalisha bidhaa kwajili ya masoko ya ndugu zao ulaya, hata ukienda Arusha or Moshi ni hao hao wazungu waliokimbilia kuchukuwa ardhi na ndio wanajuwa ndugu zao wanataka kununua nini. Kama weusi wange kuwa na access ya market ya ulaya, nchi zote za Africa wangelima mazao mengi na wakauza ulaya au hata sehemu nyingine. Lakini the bigger export countries za Africa, ni zile zenye settlers wengi wazungu na zenye ardhi inayofa kulima. South Africa, Zimbabwe, Kenya, Ivory Coast.

Mimi sijui ya Zimbabwe na SA, hapa tunazungumzia Kenya, where well over 70% of the black population depend on agriculture for their livelihoods. Do not tell me about Zimbabwe or wherever where the circumstances are so differnt.
In your right mind, do u really think that the European consumers of the African Coffee, Tea or flowers are unaware that the continent is inhabitted by the the black people, and do they really have the time to find out who really was behind the production of the beautiful flowers they are about to buy? Really? They wouldnt buy the beautiful carnations bcos.....of all the reasons.....it was produced by a black person?
How fantastic!

Now find out, who are these people...Export Promotion Council
Find out who are its executives.
What is the role of the Ministry of Trade, Industry and Cooperatives? Is it also headed by white people?

1) Kenya gets nod to export farm fish to European market

2) Kenyan Avocados: Connecting to High-value Export Markets



I swear to u, much of what u have stated above is complete rubbish. A person of your calibre, who claims to have been well educated and travelled shouldnt be talking thus. Why wouldnt the europeans buy commodities from Africa if it is not produced by a white person? That is complete nonsense.
Much of the tea and coffee produced here in Kenya is produced by Africans, the small scale farmers. Well over 70% of it. The fruits.....are mostly produced by the African farmers. And the tea buyers in Europe are pretty aware of the fact.
It is a huge fact u cannot shield from the the european consumers. I have never heard that Kenyan tea and coffee being boycotted in Europe or America bcos it is produced by the black farmers. In any case, they should know that Africa is inhabitted by black pipo.

The Starbucks, even has the pictures of the Kenyan Massai on its Coffee products imported from Kenya printed on the packages, and they shamelessly declare that it is "authentically Kenyan". And it sells really well. Kenyan coffee is regarded one of the best in the world, and it fetches high prices.

 

[Emc2]

Najua huko kenya asilimia kubwa watu hawajawahi kubeua tangu wazaliwe. Sasa nawaletea zao jingine zuri kutoka Tanzania. Nawaletea maboga safi toka TZ.
Huko kenya vitu hivi ni vigumu sana kupatikana. Hii ni kwa sababu hamkujaliwa kuwa na ardhi zuri.
Maboga hupatikana mikoa yote ya Tanzania.

 

[Iconoclastes]

Ndugu yangu mbona maneno mengi sana. Tulia wenzako wenyeshida watakuja.

Nimekuuliza, unao uhakika hizi bidhaa hazipo Kenya?

 

[Emc2]

Nimekuuliza, unao uhakika hizi bidhaa hazipo Kenya?

Unaniuliza swali hilo ili iweje?

 

[Iconoclastes]

Unaniuliza swali hilo ili iweje?

Tena hautaki pesa? Nilidhani unafanya marketing hapa. Kwanini usiwahakakishie hao wakulima wa Tanzania ya kwamba kweli kunao soko kubwa Kenya, kwasababu hizi bidhaa kwa kweli hazipo.

Je, huyo mkulima wa kitanzania akikuuliza swali hili, "je unao uhakika hizi bidhaa hazipo Kenya?" utamjibuje wewe kama marketer.

 

[Emc2]

Hayahaya tena wenye wivi wajinyonge.
Nawaletea bidhaa nzhuri ya viazu vitamu toka tanzania.
Mikoa mingi ya Tanzania hulima viazi vitamu. Wakenya kazi yao ni kujisifu tu. Lakini tunawataka waje hapa TZ tufanye biashara waache wizi wao.

 

[Emc2]

Tena hautaki pesa? Nilidhani unafanya marketing hapa. Kwanini usiwahakakishie hao wakulima wa Tanzania ya kwamba kweli kunao soko kubwa Kenya, kwasababu hizi bidhaa kwa kweli hazipo.

Je, huyo mkulima wa kitanzania akikuuliza swali hili, "je unao uhakika hizi bidhaa hazipo Kenya?" utamjibuje wewe kama marketer.

Ninajua soko kubwa lipo kenya kwa sababu watu wanakufa na njaa.

 

[Iconoclastes]

Ninajua soko kubwa lipo kenya kwa sababu watu wanakufa na njaa.

Basi kam wanakufaa njaa, ina maana hawana hata pesa ya kununua chakula. Hivyo basi hizi juhudi zako ni kazi bure! Basi ni kheri ukawambie hawa wakulima watume hizo bidhaa zao kama aid kwa nchi ya Kenya. Hawataweza kufanya mauzo mazuri kwa nchi iliyo maskini kiasi cha watu kufa njaa.

Lakini la muhimu zaidi, nyinyi ndio mnafaa kujisaidia zaidi kutokana na tatizo hili....'

Tanzania: Nutrition Profile

 

[Iconoclastes]

Annael, na hawa hata wanasema nyinyi ni wa tatu katika bara hili kutokana na tatizo la stunted growth

UNICEF - Nutrition - Overview

 

[Emc2]

Annael, na hawa hata wanasema nyinyi ni wa tatu katika bara hili kutokana na tatizo la stunted growth

UNICEF - Nutrition - Overview

Sema kimoja wewe ni mteja au sio mteja?

 

[Emc2]

Nawaletea ufuta safi kutoka Tanzania. Ufuta unapatikana karibia mikoa yote ya bongo. Tatizo wenzetu kenya eneo kubwa ni jangwa ndio maana hapa wanakuja kwa hasira. Tunajaribu kuwasaidia lakini baadhi wao hawaelewi. Ngoja tutawasaidia tu.

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[Mwanzi1]

Mimi sijui ya Zimbabwe na SA, hapa tunazungumzia Kenya, where well over 70% of the black population depend on agriculture for their livelihoods. Do not tell me about Zimbabwe or wherever where the circumstances are so differnt.
In your right mind, do u really think that the European consumers of the African Coffee, Tea or flowers are unaware that the continent is inhabitted by the the black people, and do they really have the time to find out who really was behind the production of the beautiful flowers they are about to buy? Really? They wouldnt buy the beautiful carnations bcos.....of all the reasons.....it was produced by a black person?
How fantastic!

Now find out, who are these people...Export Promotion Council
Find out who are its executives.
What is the role of the Ministry of Trade, Industry and Cooperatives? Is it also headed by white people?

1) Kenya gets nod to export farm fish to European market

2) Kenyan Avocados: Connecting to High-value Export Markets



I swear to u, much of what u have stated above is complete rubbish. A person of your calibre, who claims to have been well educated and travelled shouldnt be talking thus. Why wouldnt the europeans buy commodities from Africa if it is not produced by a white person? That is complete nonsense.
Much of the tea and coffee produced here in Kenya (well over 70%) is produced by Africans, the small scale farmers. The fruits.....are mostly produced by the African farmers.
It is a huge fact u cannot shield from the the european consumers. I have never heard that Kenyan tea and coffee being boycotted in Europe or America bcos it is produced by the black farmers. In any case, they should know that Africa is inhabitted by black pipo.

The Starbucks, even has the pictures of the Kenyan Massai on its Coffee products imported from Kenya printed on the packages, and they shamelessly declare that it is "authentically Kenyan". And it sells really well. Kenyan coffee is regarded one of the best in the world, and it fetches high prices.

You made me laugh, we're talking apples and oranges here. Before you jump into any conclusion, you better revisit what I said before. European they will buy from another European because they're the one they know what European market wants. I didn't say European customers question who actually plants the seeds on the ground or who harvest the flowers in the end of the season. Of course they need blacks to do the duty work, of course 70% of Kenya black work in the farms who else will do that job, elephants? If you dismiss the South Africa and Zimbabwe story then your denying yourself knowledge of why Kenya has archive export economy. If Kenya decided to go South Africa or Zimbabwe way of land redistribution, you'll see how fast the export numbers crumble to the ground. The consumers In Europe and America they love to see the product they buy is actually come from Africa, they love the idea of African culture or the wildlife. And the companies which sale those product to them, they play a good PR by sticking a photo of an African farmer with a short story on their products. But that farmer has no direct connection with company sales product to the end user, the local producer sale their product to a local agent (might be a while man) and end up with fraction of what the end user pay. Thats why the organisation know as fair trade was introduced to make sure the person at zero mile receives a decent income.

What is Fairtrade? | Fairtrade Foundation

What is Fair Trade?

 

[Iconoclastes]

Sema kimoja wewe ni mteja au sio mteja?

Mimi ni mteja anayetegemea bidhaa za Kenya.

 

[Emc2]

Mimi ni mteja anayetegemea bidhaa za Kenya.

Sasa tatizo lako ni nini?

 

[Iconoclastes]

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Hii ni product ya Kenya Annael......u are lying again.

 

[Iconoclastes]

Sasa tatizo lako ni nini?

Nimekuuliza, ni kweli hizo bidhaa hazipo Kenya? Waelezee hawa wakulima wa Kitanzania wasije Kenya wakakuta soko limefurika furi furi na hizo hizo bidhaa wanaotaka kuuza huku.
Wasije wakakulaumu na kukulaani kwa kuwapotosha.

 

[Emc2]

Hii ni product ya Kenya Annael......u are lying again.

Kwikwi umeitoa wapi hiyo?

 

[Emc2]

Nimekuuliza, ni kweli hizo bidhaa hazipo Kenya? Waelezee hawa wakulima wa Kitanzania wasije Kenya wakakuta soko limefurika furi furi na hizo hizo bidhaa wanaotaka kuuza huku.
Wasije wakakulaumu na kukulaani kwa kuwapotosha.

Kwani tatizo lako ni nini hasa nikusaidie? Halafu nashukuru maana kila comment yangu unafuatilia. Ujumbe unaupata.

 

[Mwanzi1]

Nimekuuliza, ni kweli hizo bidhaa hazipo Kenya? Waelezee hawa wakulima wa Kitanzania wasije Kenya wakakuta soko limefurika furi furi na hizo hizo bidhaa wanaotaka kuuza huku.
Wasije wakakulaumu na kukulaani kwa kuwapotosha.

Hata kama zipo au hazipo, who producer cheaply hili ndio lingekuwa swali.

 

[Iconoclastes]

You made me laugh, we're talking apples and oranges here. Before you jump into any conclusion, you better revisit what I said before. European they will buy from another European because they're the one they know what European market wants. I didn't say European customers question who actually plants the seeds on the ground or who harvest the flowers in the end of the season. Of course they need blacks to do the duty work, of course 70% of Kenya black work in the farms who else will do that job, elephants? If you dismiss the South Africa and Zimbabwe story then your denying yourself knowledge of why Kenya has archive export economy. If Kenya decided to go South Africa orway of land redistribution, you'll see how fast the export numbers crumble to the ground. The consumers In Europe and America they love to see the product they buy is actually come from Africa, they love the idea of African culture or the wildlife. And the companies which sale those product to them, they play a good PR by sticking a photo of an African farmer with a short story on their products. But that farmer has no direct connection with company sales product to the end user, the local producer sale their product to a local agent (might be a while man) and end up with fraction of what the end user pay. Thats why the organisation know as fair trade was introduced to make sure the person at zero mile receives a decent income.

What is Fairtrade? | Fairtrade Foundation

I said well over 70% of the both the substinence and commercial are produced by the Kenyan, African farmers, and if u do not believe it Visit the site. I wasnt referring to the farm hands.
From coffee, tea, fruits, vegetables, meat, dairy farming etc. Black people have been deeply involved in the production of these goods. The sector is dominated by Africans. And I hereby do not deny the existence of the europeans in the sector, but their contribution in the sector is only minor. And in marketing their products, they have to use the same avenue as used by the other Kenyan producers.

And I still do not understand why u have provided me those links, cos they are not telling me anything.