Another big blow to CoW (Kenya): Uganda prefers route through Tanzania for her oil exports

Another big blow to CoW (Kenya): Uganda prefers route through Tanzania for her oil exports

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Oil companies in Uganda are in discussions with Tanzania for an alternative pipeline route through Tanga despite a recent agreement between Presidents Yoweri Museveni and Uhuru Kenyatta.

Whereas President Museveni of Uganda and his Kenyan counterpart President Kenyatta sealed a deal that if implemented with see Ugandan oil exported through Kenyan port of Lamu, oil companies believe the Tanga route is cost effective.

The EastAfrican has learnt that besides security concerns, the companies are also uncomfortable with the cost of the Lamu route, arguing that the southern route through Tanzania would be cheaper and offer better commercial terms to the users.

"We are evaluating all viable options and the Tanzania route is one of them," Total's corporate affairs manager Ahlem Friga-Noy told The EastAfrican.

Total's senior vice president for Eastern Africa, Javier Rielo on August 22 met with Tanzania's President Jakaya Kikwete and discussed the possibility of building a crude oil pipeline from Hoima to Tanga.

President Kikwete supported the proposal as it fits within Tanzania's ongoing preparatory works to upgrade Tanga port's capacity to off load petroleum products.

Total E&P, Tullow Oil and China National Offshore Oil Company are equal partners in Uganda's upstream sector, where 6.5 billion barrels of oil, 1.4 billion of them recoverable, have so far been confirmed.

Sources in the Ugandan government revealed that the Tanga route is also being considered even though the state has no hand in the ongoing discussions led by the oil companies.

A senior Ugandan official said while the country had in principle agreed to the Lamu route as reflected in the MoU that Kenya and Uganda signed during President Kenyatta's recent visit to the country, the concerns Uganda raised such as the cost and security, mean that the Tanga route could still be explored.

The official added that Uganda would soon commission a feasibility study for the Tanga route, but this would be strictly for benchmarking purposes against alternative routes to the north and determining comparative costs for them.

In the MoU that the two presidents signed affirming the Hoima-Lokichar-Lamu route, it was conditional that Uganda get a low tariff pipeline. Other conditions included Kenya guaranteeing security on its side of the pipeline, quick implementation of the project and mobilisation of the finances, which would be a joint effort.

Although one Ugandan official describes President Museveni's conditions as just being "precautionary," the security provision is being seen by the oil companies as likely to push the tariff beyond what alternative routes would offer.

However, Earnest Rubondo, director at Uganda's Petroleum Exploration and Production Department (PEPD), said all the three possible routes - Lamu, Mombasa and Tanga - are still on the table until conclusive studies are completed.

Last month, the Japanese company Toyota Tsusho, handed to the government a study showing that the Hoima-Lokichar-Lamu routing for the pipeline was more feasible than the alternative - Hoima-Nairobi-Mombasa route.


Source: The East African
 
Like I always say, NO COUNTRY ACTS IN THE INTEREST OF ANY OTHER. I am sure even if Kenya was put in the same position, it would have done the same, but only time will tell, am pretty sure they'll opt for the Kenyan route.. No love lost.
 
we see all these proposals and discussions and theory news every week. i only take projects that are happening seriously. i can list at least 100 projects in east africa that have been under 'serious dicussion' over the last 20 years, lakini kwenye ground there is zero activity.
 
Like I always say, NO COUNTRY ACTS IN THE INTEREST OF ANY OTHER. I am sure even if Kenya was put in the same position, it would have done the same, but only time will tell, am pretty sure they'll opt for the Kenyan route.. No love lost.

I hope CCM is voted out so Tanzania no longer wears the sluggard of EA tag. Hii ni fursa nzuri I hope tutaichangamkia ipasavyo! Cc JokaKuu
 
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I hope CCM is voted out so Tanzania no longer wears the sluggard of EA tag. Hii ni fursa nzuri I hope tutaichangamkia ipasavyo! Cc JokaKuu

Word. Hope this time round you'll manage to wrestle power from them, change is as good as a rest. Njooni tupigane na maisha ya EAC, kila mtu avute kwake nchi zetu zipae. Wish y'all a peaceful and fair election, but its about time the old guards left.
 
..time is not on Tz side.

..pia we have a lot on our plate.

..waliahidi bandari na reli ujenzi ungeanza july this year. Sasa wamerukia kwenye bomba la mafuta.

Cc MK254, msemakweli, Kimweri
 
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Reli ya kwenda wapi.hapa ndio kisiwa cha uvumilivu bongo
 
..time is not on Tz side.

..pia we have a lot on our plate.

..waliahidi bandari na reli ujenzi ungeanza july this year. Sasa wamerukia kwenye bomba la mafuta.

Cc MK254, msemakweli, Kimweri
Alot on our plate? You can't be serious! All we have on our plate is just bread crumbs!
When it comes to projects that have huge economic significance, there is no such thing as a full plate. If there is no room, we should make some.
This recent move by oil companies in Uganda should provide more impetus for the development of Tanzania's northern transport corridor that terminates at Tanga port.The billions that were to be channeled into building the (useless) Bagamoyo port should be routed towards building Tanga's Mwambani port and the port of Mtwara, to serve SAGCOT and the upcoming petrochemical industry.
Dar es salaam could keep serving the Central Corridor.
Why they never consult me in this things i will never understand! LOL!
 
U Tzs seem to be pretty egg-cited with this matter!
there's this and this and now this one here! Oh boy...

Guys, it isnt as though the suggestions by those Ugandan oil dealers is in itself an absolute decision, and therefore a foregone conclusion that the idea will really materialize.
What is exactly wrong with the Kenyan route? Arent there solutions to the glitches pointed out by those oil dealers in our route? Arent there really some significant benefits they would enjoy when they choose Kenya? Is the Tanzanian route absolutely devoid of any demerits?

Who remembers this thread here?

:llama:
 
U Tzs seem to be pretty egg-cited with this matter!
there's this and this and now this one here! Oh boy...

Guys, it isnt as though the suggestions by those Ugandan oil dealers is in itself an absolute decision, and therefore a foregone conclusion that the idea will really materialize.
What is exactly wrong with the Kenyan route? Arent there solutions to the glitches pointed out by those oil dealers in our route? Arent there really some significant benefits they would enjoy when they choose Kenya? Is the Tanzanian route absolutely devoid of any demerits?

Who remembers this thread here?

:llama:
Lamu is a....what was the phrase?.....hotbed of TERROR!
Seriously though, isn't that where all the extremists are located?
Besides, the Tanga route is shorter.
 
Lamu is a....what was the phrase?.....hotbed of TERROR!
Seriously though, isn't that where all the extremists are located?
Besides, the Tanga route is shorter.

Be wise in your comments bro.
I havent seen anywhere where they have cited ''terror in Lamu'' as one of their reasons for turning to Tanga. Surely, this is a challenge that has enveloped this entire region and beyond.
Who is really expecting the nuisance to last forever? Not if all govts worldwide decide to unleash all their might to tackle the menace.
 
Be wise in your comments bro.
I havent seen anywhere where they have cited ''terror in Lamu'' as one of their reasons for turning to Tanga. Surely, this is a challenge that has enveloped this entire region and beyond.
Who is really expecting the nuisance to last forever? Not if all govts worldwide decide to unleash all their might to tackle the menace.
They have cited security concerns. Read the full article. Sources say UK personally assured M7 that he will guard the pipeline with his life, if it ever comes to that! But M7 (that sly fox) wasn't taking any chances. You see, like you Kenyans like to say, its nothing personal!
The who's who of TOTAL are having talks with JK as we speak. They will build the pipeline themselves. The state of UG has little or no say as to the nitty gritties of the petrol business. As long as they get their cut, they steer clear and let the goons do their work! I wonder how UK didnt know this!
 
na tukiwaambia TZ ndio key ingredient ya EAC wanabisha!

msemakweli Nyie naona hata nani awe rais wenu, bado hampo tayari kwa masuala ya biashara, mnapenda kuwa personal sana na kubeba visasi na majungu wakati ulimwengu wa sasa hauna muda na hayo. Hii ifahamike wanachofanya Waganda ni sahihi, put all options on the table, nothing personal, biashara haina undugu wala udada.

Ni jambo bora kwa wao kutathmini ni route ipi nzuri kwao, hivyo ni jukumu la Tanzania na Kenya kila mmoja kujinadi kama ndiye sahihi. Sisi hatubebi mambo kama haya kimajungu majungu kama nyie, hatuwezi lalamika kama jinsi mngefanya nyie, tunarudi kwenye drawing board na kuangalia jinsi gani ya kujaribu kuwashawishi Waganda upya. Na ikishindikana, basi kila mtu ana riziki yake kutoka kwa Mola.
 
msemakweli Nyie naona hata nani awe rais wenu, bado hampo tayari kwa masuala ya biashara, mnapenda kuwa personal sana na kubeba visasi na majungu wakati ulimwengu wa sasa hauna muda na hayo. Hii ifahamike wanachofanya Waganda ni sahihi, put all options on the table, nothing personal, biashara haina undugu wala udada.

Ni jambo bora kwa wao kutathmini ni route ipi nzuri kwao, hivyo ni jukumu la Tanzania na Kenya kila mmoja kujinadi kama ndiye sahihi. Sisi hatubebi mambo kama haya kimajungu majungu kama nyie, hatuwezi lalamika kama jinsi mngefanya nyie, tunarudi kwenye drawing board na kuangalia jinsi gani ya kujaribu kuwashawishi Waganda upya. Na ikishindikana, basi kila mtu ana riziki yake kutoka kwa Mola.
I wouldn't be surprised were i to learn that JK's mind still hasn't lit up with the idea of building an SGR to Uganda from Tanga port!
 
They have cited security concerns. Read the full article.Sources say UK personally assured M7 that he will guard the pipeline with his life,if it ever comes to that! But M7 (that sly fox) wasn't taking any chances. You see,like you Kenyans like to say, its nothing personal!
The who's who of TOTAL are having talks with JK as we speak. They will build the pipeline themselves. The state of UG has little or no say as to the nitty gritties of the petrol business. As long as they get their cut, they steer clear and let the goons do their work! I wonder how UK didnt know this!
So, when they say 'security concerns', to u they are only intimating at terror concerns in Kenya? Not vandalism to the pipeline by pipo seeking to siphon its content?

Why would any right thinking oil investor consider having such an expensive infrastructure run through that largely desolate country that is Tanzania where the risk of pipe perforation might be higher and harder and costlier to keep in check?
 
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