Tetesi: Bernard Kamilius Membe Meets CHADEMA top officials, The 2020 election tops the agenda

Tetesi: Bernard Kamilius Membe Meets CHADEMA top officials, The 2020 election tops the agenda

YEHODAYA said:
Fear him for what I am not a presidential aspirant

My advice to Chadema to short list the just go to Chadema accounts office and ask how much this candidate has contributed financially to the party? And how much he had consumed financially from paty funds and Chadema members .

If financial consumption is greater than his financial contribution to the party that candidate is a liability to the party he should be kicked out .Lisu will be kicked our because he was even demanding money to defend party in cases where he represented!!! Hakuwa na uzalendo like kibatalas and company!!!
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Shortlist the just to go to....? Consume financially? Tumieni kiswahili jamani. Hamna aibu katika kutumia kiswahili na mtatufikia wengi na mtaepuka kuharibu lugha ya wenyewe.

Amandla...
 
Sitarajii cdm wafanye upumbavu na kurudia maamuzi ya kijinga yakumpitisha Edward Lowasa 2015.

Membe anaweza kuwa mwanachama lakin ni marufuku ugombea wa urais vinginevo asubirie 2025.
 
Ma lumumba yanapima upepo...endeleeni tu mtajua kua hamjui
 
Mystery said:
Ni kweli kabisa

Hiyo nafasi anastahili mpinzani mmoja tuu, naye si mwingine ni Shujaa Tundu Lissu, ili apambane na huyu Jiwe ambaye, utawala wake tumeshuhudia akitumia vyombo vya dola vibaya kwa kuuminya upinzani ili usifurukute
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Je ikitokea kwa sababu za "kiufundi" Tundu lisu akaenguliwa kwenye kinyang'anyiro nini itakuwa mstakabali wa CHADEMA kwenye suala la mgombea urais? maana kumbuka hakutakuwa na room ya kuweka mgombea mwingine.
 
Fundi Mchundo said:
Shortlist the just to go to....? Consume financially? Tumieni kiswahili jamani. Hamna aibu katika kutumia kiswahili na mtatufikia wengi na mtaepuka kuharibu lugha ya wenyewe.

Amandla...
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Nimeeleka sisahihishi
 
Eti.... Magufuli is admired by many in the world..''' 😂😂😂
 
Msulibasi said:
Hata mimi naamini hivyo lakini watanzania wengi hawaamini hivyo. Mrema alikosa kura kiasi kutokana na watu kuogopa visasi.

Pia Lisu hayupo fiti hasa kwenye kutembea hii inapunguza kitu kikubwa sana katika mitizamo ya mpiga kura.

Chadema waache ubinafsi. CCM wanajiharia kumsikia Membe na sio Lisu. Membe ni mwakilishi wa CCM ya zamani
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Urais sio nafasi ya watu wasio walemavu, bali urais ni kazi ya mtu mwenye akili timamu. Hapo nilipoona tu umesema eti hawezi kutembea vizuri, ndio nimejua ww ni mpuuzi fulani, ndio maana unamtetea Membe huyo mzee muhuni toka ccm.
 
Mimi sio mwanachama Wa chama chochote, ila alipo lissu nipo.Huyu ndo masia wengine tupa Kule, eti membe Leo anadai tume huru ya uchaguzi.Maajabu...
 
Apart from a sympathiser vote and barren political noise, unlike Membe, Tundu Lissu does not have political magnetic mighty required to pierce, penetrate and divide CCM into political debris. You need a presidential candidate who is potentially able to undercut and send mourning undercurrent gigs into CCM.
A credible party would seriously consider its post 2020 elections going concern stand hinging on
  1. the number of votes bagged,
  2. the number of seats won,
  3. the number of councils won,
  4. the amount of guaranteed subventions bagged.
Lissu presidential candidature implies sacrifice to Chadema's post 2020 going concern variables.
it is all about science rather than ideological feelings
 
emmanuel mruma said:
Sema kwa namna ambavo serikali ya awamu hii inavokandamiza upinzani ni wazi inahitajika nguvu Fulani hi I ambayo inaweza pia kuwa mwiba kwa ccm, walau upinzani waokoe majimbo na viti vya udiwani....Kuna mtu powerful anahitajika hata kama wasipompa agombee ila awepo kwene kipande Fulani
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Hiyo nguvu huyo Membe kaikosa akiwa huko ccm ndio anataka ailete upinzani? Kikao kilichomkata huko ccm hawafiki watu 10, na hajafanya lolote. Sasa huku upinzani atapata wapi nguvu, wakati wapinzani hawana mbeleko ya vyombo vya dola? Aende UDP akaonyeshe hizo nguvu zake.
 
Troll JF said:
Former Foreign Minister ,Top Diplomat and retired Senior Spy meets CHADEMA top officials at Dar es Salaam aimed #Election2020 discussion.

The event followed by former Membe (former CCM cadre) who recently returned his Membership Card of the very powerful and influential party in Africa as its roots originate from back to Freedom fighting era.

Sources close to both parties told that CDM want to deploy Bernard Membe due to his popularity as makeshift towards resurrection of the party due to recently internal crisis. The same strategy used 2015 Election to maximize the number of parliamentary seats has been backed by member of the floor, as they face a very stiff competition from President Magufuli who is admired by many in the world.

According to reports CHADEMA Senior figures have made clear that the odds of becoming presidential candidate are against Tundu Lissu and he is too predictable to use 2017 gunshot as @2020Election main strategy to seek public sympathy.

Until late night the members were yet to agree to line up Bernard Membe in 2020 Election due to large divided opinions as many feared not to repeat 2015 blunder Some told Mr. Membe to wait until 2025 but it has been seen so far Membe wont abide any delays.

The meeting Chaired by most influential man in the Party Mr. Freeman Mbowe who has been publicly criticized by outsourcing Former Prime Minister in 2015 Election.

Troll JF
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There's no doubt that this piece of article is prepared at Lumumba CCM office as part of their propaganda and plans to confuse the followers and members of the main opposition political parties...

One can easily discover this through stupid errors and mistakes in their writing style....

You can see in the first paragraph the main opposition party is written "CHADEMA". The next paragraph, the opposition name of the political party changes to " CDM"....

So, one can ask what is CHADEMA and what is CDM? And in the Political Party Registrar book, can we find any political party with the name "CDM"??. Defenetely, nothing....

So, this is simply a miscalculated propaganda....!!
 
Another great mistake, if we could not learn from 2015 election, we will never learn

Mbowe should never trust Membe in either ways
Troll JF said:
Former Foreign Minister ,Top Diplomat and retired Senior Spy meets CHADEMA top officials at Dar es Salaam aimed #Election2020 discussion.

The event followed by former Membe (former CCM cadre) who recently returned his Membership Card of the very powerful and influential party in Africa as its roots originate from back to Freedom fighting era.

Sources close to both parties told that CDM want to deploy Bernard Membe due to his popularity as makeshift towards resurrection of the party due to recently internal crisis. The same strategy used 2015 Election to maximize the number of parliamentary seats has been backed by member of the floor, as they face a very stiff competition from President Magufuli who is admired by many in the world.

According to reports CHADEMA Senior figures have made clear that the odds of becoming presidential candidate are against Tundu Lissu and he is too predictable to use 2017 gunshot as @2020Election main strategy to seek public sympathy.

Until late night the members were yet to agree to line up Bernard Membe in 2020 Election due to large divided opinions as many feared not to repeat 2015 blunder Some told Mr. Membe to wait until 2025 but it has been seen so far Membe wont abide any delays.

The meeting Chaired by most influential man in the Party Mr. Freeman Mbowe who has been publicly criticized by outsourcing Former Prime Minister in 2015 Election.

Troll JF
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Sophist said:
Apart from a sympathiser vote and barren political noise, unlike Membe, Tundu Lissu does not have political magnetic mighty required to pierce, penetrate and divide CCM into political debris. You need a presidential candidate who potentially able to undercut and send mourning undercurrent gigs into CCM.
A credible party would seriously consider its post 2020 elections going concern stand hinging on
  1. the number of votes bagged,
  2. the number of seats won,
  3. the number of councils won,
  4. the amount of guaranteed subventions bagged.
Lissu presidential candidature implies sacrifice to Chadema's post 2020 going concern variables.
it is all about science rather than ideological feelings
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I concur with you. Tundu Lisu is vulnarable easy to be spoiled. CCM and the system prepared to face Lisu. They know everything about him.

It is also easy to tell voters that Lisu is a puppet, agent of big powers.

On the other side Membe is much more respected by both Chadema and CCM members not forgetting non partisans.
 
YEHODAYA said:
Tundu is is not that much popular inside party inner circles!!!

He is only supported by internet keyboard warriors who are nobody's in Chadema politics and decision making!!

Anyway what you are trying to portray is you want to show that Tundu Lisu is a presidential material inside Chadema but you are wrong

If Lisu was a presidential material he could have got support from all Central committee members but they have decided to take presidential nomination form to challenge him openly!!

Mbowe , Nyalandu and Msigwa all are Central committee members who know what is what inside Chadema bedroom that is why they have come out to challenge Tundu Lisu.A thing that is an open signal that inside things are not as they are potrayed outside!!!

Tundu is trying to paint a faint fake picture in social networks that he is the Chadema choice!!! But the truth he is not

Tundu Lisu is operating in the airwaves where there are not decision makers while his fellows operate on the ground where there are decision makers and rub shoulders with them and drink coffee with them
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What are you trying to imply? That not being deemed a presidential material by a handful of CC members automatically makes you a redundant/incompetent.

I guess the primaries are the determinants of the popular view pertaining who fits better as a flag bearer come october.

Lissu's appointment as the Vice chair should alarm you that the party hierarchy view him as the future prospect for the party leadership alongside JJ Mnyika. Thus your claims are baseless

Mind you the article claims the house was divided concerning Membe's question. Implying a score of CC members, object the move. However, if lissu was not a perfect alternative I assume they would have garnered behind Membe's candidacy.
 
Muhimu ni kujenga chama kwa kupata mgombea atakaeweza kushindana na jiwe na kumpunguzia kura, pia kuingiza wabunge wengi bungeni.
Lisu syo rahisi hivyo kurudi maana sidhani kama wauaji walotaka kumtoa roho wanatamani wamuone.
Pia upinzani definately unataka kuungana ni fursa nzuri kwa membe,
Fundi Mchundo said:
Wakimteua kuwa mgombea wao watawavunja moyo wengi ambao wamekipigania chama chao kwa kila hali. Uamuzi kama huo utapokelewa vibaya kuliko ilivyokuwa kwa Mheshimiwa Lowassa. Chama makini hakiwezi kukubali kuwekewa masharti na mtu anayehitaji baraka zake ili aweze kugombea nafasi yeyote ya kisiasa katika jamii.

Amandla...
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