Call to Public Debate- Any Brave Atheist or Atheists

Call to Public Debate- Any Brave Atheist or Atheists

Stefano Mtangoo said:
Running with style? Anyway am still waiting to see if anyone will volunteer to debate me, face-off on the public!
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Do you even understand what I wrote?

You have an unanswered question to answer, you have not answered it.

Who is running now?
 
KeyserSoze said:
How long did it take for penicillin to stop being as effective ? How many medicines are stop being used and rendered ineffective and why ?

Food for Thought..... for something which reproduce multiple generations within days still it takes years for them to evolve into resistant bacterias and you still want to see them evolve into different species..!!!!, remember in bacterias lifespan its less than milliseconds of your life
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Bacteria cannot be seen by the naked eye. Even their so called 'evolution' cannot be seen by the naked eye.

On the other hand, the so called 'evolution' of man from apes, however, at least it's results can be seen by the naked eye.

So using the so called 'evolution' of bacteria due to its resistance to antibiotics to explain or prove the 'evolution' of apes to man, I find it to be very unconvincing.
 
Ishmael said:
Do you have any observable evidence of evolution? The scientific evidence must be observable and repeatable. Your link doesn't have any observable evidence, in contrast, your link is supporting darwinic blind faith.
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If you thought evolution at the scale of transforming a unicellular organism to a rat or an ape to a human being can be observed in a lab then you are just as blind. To observe and even repeat evolution is not as simple as observing a sperm and ovum against all odds fuse into an embryo that grows into a complete man. If someone can teach me a way of speeding up time and be able to observe a million years pass by I will be more than happy to provide the evidence you need. Or, if there is someone out there who is old enough, say a few million years old, someone like "A man from Earth", he might be able to shed some light on the subject. But for now, there is only historical evidence and the rest is all theories - for some believable enough to be regarded as facts. Believing is a choice.
 
whizkid said:
If you thought evolution at the scale of transforming a unicellular organism to a rat or an ape to a human being can be observed in a lab then you are just as blind. To observe and even repeat evolution is not as simple as observing a sperm and ovum against all odds fuse into an embryo that grows into a complete man. If someone can teach me a way of speeding up time and be able to observe a million years pass by I will be more than happy to provide the evidence you need. Or, if there is someone out there who is old enough, say a few million years old, someone like "A man from Earth", he might be able to shed some light on the subject. But for now, there is only historical evidence and the rest is all theories - for some believable enough to be regarded as facts. Believing is a choice.
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I am not interested with "If's" and "but's". You know what I asked. It seems you are a believer and follower of a darwinic cult of blind faith.

Do you have any observable evidence of evolution? YES or NO?
 
Ishmael said:
I am not interested with "If's" and "but's". You know what I asked. It seems you are a believer and follower of a darwinic cult of blind faith.

Do you have any observable evidence of evolution? YES or NO?
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YES, I do have. I gave you a link. It seems you didn't read it through. And NO, I am not a believer of any such cult, sorry.
 
Without the word "if", you wouldn't be able to type or read anything here. A simple if-else logic goes a long way in science and has nothing to do with blind faith.
 
whizkid said:
If you thought evolution at the scale of transforming a unicellular organism to a rat or an ape to a human being can be observed in a lab then you are just as blind. To observe and even repeat evolution is not as simple as observing a sperm and ovum against all odds fuse into an embryo that grows into a complete man. If someone can teach me a way of speeding up time and be able to observe a million years pass by I will be more than happy to provide the evidence you need. Or, if there is someone out there who is old enough, say a few million years old, someone like "A man from Earth", he might be able to shed some light on the subject. But for now, there is only historical evidence and the rest is all theories - for some believable enough to be regarded as facts. Believing is a choice.
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Thats why evolution is a historical claim in the name of science..

Actually time does not make impossible things to become possiple things.
 
lost id said:
Thats why evolution is a historical claim in the name of science..

Actually time does not make impossible things to become possiple things.
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What might be perceived as impossible, with time can be made possible. For example, no matter how hard you try, compressing a few corpses and plants wont give you crude oil.

Time does make some impossible things possible, happens all the time.

Evolution is science, not just a historical claim. The study of genetics has helped us understand evolution much better. Mutants happen all the time, dont they?

So, claim or fact, today whites know we black men are their ancestors. The early humans didn't look or behave as we do today. Whether you like it or not my fellow Homo sapiens, you're a primate for a reason!
 
whizkid said:
Umenikumbusha watu walivyodhani sumaku ni uchawi karne zilizopita. Umeme nao wakaona uchawi. Unacho dhani kuwa hakipo, pengine umekosa tu njia ya kukiona.
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sasa mnaosema kipo inabidi mtuthibitishie sisi tusio na njia ya kuona!!
 
tindikalikali said:
sasa mnaosema kipo inabidi mtuthibitishie sisi tusio na njia ya kuona!!
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Five Proofs of Evolution

1. The universal genetic code.- All cells on Earth, from our white blood cells, to simple bacteria, to cells in the leaves of trees, are capable of reading any piece of DNA from any life form on Earth.- This is very strong evidence for a common ancestor from which all life descended.

2. The fossil record.- The fossil record shows that the simplest fossils will be found in the oldest rocks, and it can also show a smooth and gradual transition from one form of life to another.

3. Genetic commonalities.- Human beings have approximately 96% of genes in common with chimpanzees, about 90% of genes in common with cats, 80% with cows, 75% with mice, and so on.- This does not prove that we evolved from chimpanzees or cats, though, only that we shared a common ancestor in the past.- And the amount of difference between our genomes corresponds to how long ago our genetic lines diverged.

4. Common traits in embryos.- Humans, dogs, snakes, fish, monkeys, eels (and many more life forms) are all considered "chordates" because we belong to the phylum-Chordata.- One of the features of this phylum is that, as embryos, all these life forms have gill slits, tails, and specific anatomical structures involving the spine.- For humans (and other non-fish) the gill slits reform into the bones of the ear and jaw at a later stage in development.- But, initially, all chordate embryos strongly resemble each other.-

In fact, pig embryos are often dissected in biology classes because of how similar they look to human embryos.- These common characteristics could only be possible if all members of the phylum-Chordata-descended from a common ancestor.

5. Bacterial resistance to antibiotics.- Bacteria colonies can only build up a resistance to antibiotics through evolution.- It is important to note that in every colony of bacteria, there are a tiny few individuals which are naturally resistant to certain antibiotics.- This is because of the random nature of mutations.

When an antibiotic is applied, the initial innoculation will kill most bacteria, leaving behind only those few cells which happen to have the mutations necessary to resist the antibiotics.- In subsequent generations, the resistant bacteria reproduce, forming a new colony where every member is resistant to the antibiotic.- This is natural selection in action.- The antibiotic is "selecting" for organisms which are resistant, and killing any that are not.
 
Kiranga said:
Do you even understand what I wrote?

You have an unanswered question to answer, you have not answered it.

Who is running now?
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This thread ain't QnA thread. If you volunteer to debate me then come out else I have nothing to discuss here.
You may well increase your speed 🙂
 
whizkid said:
Five Proofs of Evolution

1. The universal genetic code.- All cells on Earth, from our white blood cells, to simple bacteria, to cells in the leaves of trees, are capable of reading any piece of DNA from any life form on Earth.- This is very strong evidence for a common ancestor from which all life descended.

2. The fossil record.- The fossil record shows that the simplest fossils will be found in the oldest rocks, and it can also show a smooth and gradual transition from one form of life to another.

3. Genetic commonalities.- Human beings have approximately 96% of genes in common with chimpanzees, about 90% of genes in common with cats, 80% with cows, 75% with mice, and so on.- This does not prove that we evolved from chimpanzees or cats, though, only that we shared a common ancestor in the past.- And the amount of difference between our genomes corresponds to how long ago our genetic lines diverged.

4. Common traits in embryos.- Humans, dogs, snakes, fish, monkeys, eels (and many more life forms) are all considered "chordates" because we belong to the phylum-Chordata.- One of the features of this phylum is that, as embryos, all these life forms have gill slits, tails, and specific anatomical structures involving the spine.- For humans (and other non-fish) the gill slits reform into the bones of the ear and jaw at a later stage in development.- But, initially, all chordate embryos strongly resemble each other.-

In fact, pig embryos are often dissected in biology classes because of how similar they look to human embryos.- These common characteristics could only be possible if all members of the phylum-Chordata-descended from a common ancestor.

5. Bacterial resistance to antibiotics.- Bacteria colonies can only build up a resistance to antibiotics through evolution.- It is important to note that in every colony of bacteria, there are a tiny few individuals which are naturally resistant to certain antibiotics.- This is because of the random nature of mutations.

When an antibiotic is applied, the initial innoculation will kill most bacteria, leaving behind only those few cells which happen to have the mutations necessary to resist the antibiotics.- In subsequent generations, the resistant bacteria reproduce, forming a new colony where every member is resistant to the antibiotic.- This is natural selection in action.- The antibiotic is "selecting" for organisms which are resistant, and killing any that are not.
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All these are death kneels of Evolution am amazed are used as proof. but since this isn't thread for that, I will reserve my words, while waiting for an atheist that will volunteer. If you open new thread, we will meet there 🙂
 
Stefano Mtangoo said:
All these are death kneels of Evolution am amazed are used as proof. but since this isn't thread for that, I will reserve my words, while waiting for an atheist that will volunteer. If you open new thread, we will meet there 🙂
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It is okay if you don't accept these as proof. We all have a different capacity of understanding science. And as I said earlier, I am not an atheist so you're right this thread is not for me.

For those of you who are still interested to learn more about evolution, here is another good read: http://anthro.palomar.edu/evolve/evolve_3.htm
 
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