China vs USA: Infrastructure, Technology and Development

[Mto Songwe]

Demographics kati ya hizo nchi mbili ni tofauti sana hivyo kipimo cha idadi ya miundombinu hakiko sahihi. Kila nchi hapo inajenga miundombinu kwa kuzingatia masuala mbalimbali ikiwemo idadi ya watu.

Hoja zangu zimejikita katika suala la usanifu (architecture). Architecture ndiyo msingi wa miundombinu zilizopo.

Demographics kati ya hizo nchi mbili ni tofauti sana hivyo kipimo cha idadi ya miundombinu hakiko sahihi. Kila nchi hapo inajenga miundombinu kwa kuzingatia masuala mbalimbali ikiwemo idadi ya watu.

Hoja zangu zimejikita katika suala la usanifu (architecture). Architecture ndiyo msingi wa miundombinu zilizopo.

Hizo habari za kusema majengo fulani na fulani ya China yamebuniwa na raia wa US ameleta nani hapa kama sio wewe na zina uhusiano gani na nchi gani imemzidi mwenzie kimiundombinu ?

 

[FRANC THE GREAT]

Also mchina amejenga Great Wall zaidi ya miaka 2000 iliyopita. Leo uje useme USA.

Soma geopolitics na Historia ya dunia mzee.

Nani aliyesema Great Wall of China imejengwa na USA?

 

[FRANC THE GREAT]

Hizo habari za kusema majengo fulani na fulani ya China yamebuniwa na raia wa US ameleta nani hapa kama sio wewe na zina uhusiano gani na nchi gani imemzidi mwenzie kimiundombinu ?

Nisome tena unielewe, mdau!

Nimekataa hicho kipimo cha idadi ya miundombinu. Kipimo hicho hakizingatii utofauti uliopo kati ya hizo nchi mbili. Isitoshe, ulinganisho unakosa nguvu kwa sababu mmoja wapo hapo (USA) ni mhusika katika usanifu wa miundombinu kadhaa mashuhuri za pande zote mbili.

 

[Dreadnought]

Mnaijuwa Panama canal na maajabu yake ya kiuhandishi (iliyojengwa na wamarekani zaidi ya miaka 100 iliyopita) na impact yake kiuchumi? Pound locks zinazotumika kwenye Panama canal ili kuipitisha meli usawa wa juu au chini, in invention ya wachina, zaidi ya miaka 1000 iliyopita lakini hata huwezi sikia ikitajwa.

I'm not pro anything but this notion of burying contibutions of other civilizations makes me sick. You guys mentioned about the Golden gate bridge but forgetting (not knowing) that the chinese were the first to come up the the idea of suspension bridge, during the Han Dynasty.

Marekani imejengwa kwa steel industry (reli, madaraja na skyscraper structures), hawa wakina Andrew Carnegie walitajirika sana na biashara hiyo. Msichokijuwa ni kwamba uwezo wa kutengeneza steel kwa wingi ulitokana na teknolojia ya blast furnace ambayo kwa mara ya kwanza ilitumika China.

Ukiangalia juu juu unaweza kuona wachina wanakopi kila kitu ila kiundani utaona wao ndiyo waliokuwa wa kwanza kugundua mambo mengi kama karatasi, uchapishaji wa vitabu, navigation, baruti, utengenezaji wa nguo, na hata mbinu za kivita n.k. Huwezi kuwa na population kubwa vile kwa bahati mbaya, hapo inaonesha kulikuwa na mifumo mzuri wa chakula, madawa, afya na ulinzi.

May you please come with supportive evidence mkuu,

Kuhusu panama canal, steel industry, na suspension bridge technology.

 

[Chamoto]

May you please come with supportive evidence mkuu,

Kuhusu panama canal, steel industry, na suspension bridge technology.

10 Inventions From China's Han Dynasty That Changed the World | HISTORY

The 400-year rule of the Han Dynasty generated a slew of innovations in everything from agriculture to metallurgy to seismology.

www.history.com

Made In China: Chinese Inventions That Changed the World

China is an ancient and fascinating civilization, but they have also developed some of the world's most important inventions. These 11 are only a few.

interestingengineering.com

The Development of Canal Locks | Encyclopedia.com

The Development of Canal LocksOverviewCanals have been used since ancient times to carry water where it is needed or allow transportation where natural waterways do not go. The canal lock was developed in China, and first used in Europe during the Middle Ages. Source for information on The...

www.encyclopedia.com

 

[Venus Star]

Nani ameichukulia China kama Malawi? Hoja zako ziko kishabiki zaidi kuliko kisomi!

Wewe unazungumzia construction wakati mimi nazungumzia architecture. Hapo ndipo tatizo lilipo. Hakuna construction bila architecture.

Mzee acha hizo. Hebu leta hizo facts hapa na references zake.

 

[Venus Star]

Nani aliyesema Great Wall of China imejengwa na USA?

Mzee umesema USA ipo na architects bora eti ndio wanao design majengo ya china!!!! Hahahaha!!! Nimekuuliza sasa hiyo Great Wall iliyojengwa 2000 years ago nani ali design?

 

[DA HUSTLA]

Nembo Zina signify uthabiti wa Taifa, Eagle vs Dragon. Sijui kwanini sisi tulichagua Twiga

Twiga anakula majani kutokana na urefu wa shingo, ndio sisi tunakula kutokana na urefu wa kamba..na raia namba moja kalibariki hili.

 

[Mzee wa kupambania]

Nisome tena unielewe, mdau!

Nimekataa hicho kipimo cha idadi ya miundombinu. Kipimo hicho hakizingatii utofauti uliopo kati ya hizo nchi mbili. Isitoshe, ulinganisho unakosa nguvu kwa sababu mmoja wapo hapo (USA) ni mhusika katika usanifu wa miundombinu kadhaa mashuhuri za pande zote mbili.

Hata ukienda Marekani kuna majengo mengi tu yamesanifiwa na makampuni ya nje ya Marekani

 

[FRANC THE GREAT]

Mzee acha hizo. Hebu leta hizo facts hapa na references zake.

Construction na architecture ni vitu viwili tofauti.

Anayefanya construction ya majengo ya kisasa anatumia nyenzo (tools/equipments) zilizopo tayari pamoja na design/blueprint kutoka kwa aliyefanya architecture.

Anayefanya architecture anatumia ubunifu na ujuzi wa kiufundi (creative and technical skills) ili kuunda majengo (design/blueprint) kabla hata ya mchakato wa construction kuanza.

Kazi ya architecture katika karne hii inahitaji qualifications na ujuzi zaidi kuliko construction.

Mfano: Kwa nchi kama Marekani, wala hauhitaji university degree ili kuwa licensed contractor wa majengo, wakati ili uwe licensed architect ni lazima uwe na kisomo cha juu zaidi kuanzia degree. Nafikiri hata kwa Tanzania ni vivyo hivyo.

Soma zaidi tofauti zao hapo chini (zingatia sana hizo sehemu nilizopigia mstari mwekundu):

Links:

Construction vs Architecture: Which One Is The Correct One?

When it comes to building design and construction, the terms "construction" and "architecture" are often used interchangeably. However, they are not the same

thecontentauthority.com

The Difference Between a General Contractor and an Architect

The difference between an architect and a contractor is that architects produce designs for larger-scale projects while the contractors keep and implement them.

www.accessdoorsandpanels.com

 

[Mzee wa kupambania]

Construction na architecture ni vitu viwili tofauti.

Anayefanya construction ya majengo ya kisasa anatumia nyenzo (tools/equipments) zilizopo tayari pamoja na design/blueprint kutoka kwa aliyefanya architecture.

Anayefanya architecture anatumia ubunifu na ujuzi wa kiufundi (creative and technical skills) ili kuunda majengo (design/blueprint) kabla hata ya mchakato wa construction kuanza.

Kazi ya architecture katika karne hii inahitaji qualifications na ujuzi zaidi kuliko construction.

Mfano: Kwa nchi kama Marekani, wala hauhitaji university degree ili kuwa licensed contractor wa majengo, wakati ili uwe licensed architect ni lazima uwe na kisomo cha juu zaidi kuanzia degree. Nafikiri hata kwa Tanzania ni vivyo hivyo.

Soma zaidi tofauti zao hapo chini (zingatia sana hizo sehemu nilizopigia mstari mwekundu):

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Links:

Construction vs Architecture: Which One Is The Correct One?

When it comes to building design and construction, the terms "construction" and "architecture" are often used interchangeably. However, they are not the same

thecontentauthority.com

The Difference Between a General Contractor and an Architect

The difference between an architect and a contractor is that architects produce designs for larger-scale projects while the contractors keep and implement them.

www.accessdoorsandpanels.com

Kwa hiyo unamaanisha nini mkuu?

 

[FRANC THE GREAT]

Mzee umesema USA ipo na architects bora eti ndio wanao design majengo ya china!!!! Hahahaha!!! Nimekuuliza sasa hiyo Great Wall iliyojengwa 2000 years ago nani ali design?

Great Wall of China uliochukua miaka zaidi ya 2000 kuujenga ukakamilika has nothing to do with 21st century architectural needs and technology!

Kama tunazungumzia nyanja ambazo zinagusa wananchi wa pande zote moja kwa moja (kwa mujibu wa maneno yako mwenyewe), tunapaswa kuzingatia wakati uliopo sasa na mahitaji ya sasa ya watu wa hizo nchi mbili.

Great Wall of China imebaki kama sehemu ya utalii tu. Dhumuni la ujenzi wa huo ukuta lililokuwepo miaka hiyo halipo tena hivi sasa, ndio maana nimesema it has nothing to do with 21st century architectural needs and technology.

Again, unatumia mzani usio sahihi kulinganisha hizo nchi mbili. Kwamba USA nayo ilipaswa kuwa na Great Wall of USA miaka 2000 iliyopita ili kuonesha uwezo wake wa kimiundombinu wa sasa hivi? Wrong!

Uwezo wa USA katika miundombinu za kisasa unajionesha katika baadhi ya miradi mikubwa iliyopo China na duniani kote hivi sasa. Nimesema na nimeleta facts hapa za kutosha.

Katika majengo 10 marefu zaidi duniani, Marekani imehusika kwenye usanifu wa majengo takribani 6. Majengo yote ya China yaliyopo kwenye hiyo list yanaihusisha Marekani katika architectural design.

List hii hapa; architects wa hayo majengo wametajwa humo:

Top 10 tallest skyscrapers around the world - PA

Buildings designed in the present day are; Taller, smarter, and sustainable. Here are the top 10 tallest skyscrapers in the world.

parametric-architecture.com

 

[FRANC THE GREAT]

Hata ukienda Marekani kuna majengo mengi tu yamesanifiwa na makampuni ya nje ya Marekani

Mjadala ni kati ya Marekani na China. Marekani imehusika zaidi kwenye uundwaji wa miundombinu za kisasa za China kuliko ambavyo China imehusika kwenye miundombinu za Marekani.

 

[Mzee wa kupambania]

Mjadala ni kati ya Marekani na China. Marekani imehusika zaidi kwenye uundwaji wa miundombinu za kisasa za China kuliko ambavyo China imehusika kwenye miundombinu za Marekani.

Miundombinu kama ipi mkuu?

 

[Bufa]

Swali moja tu kwako Venus Star kati ya China na makao makuu ya dunia, USA, unaenda wapi?

 

[Afta]

Wakuu hivi picha ya mnyama inayowakilisha nchi Huwa inaakisi nchi ilivyo? Kama tai,nyoka ,twiga nk

 

[FRANC THE GREAT]

Kwa hiyo unamaanisha nini mkuu?

Namaanisha kuwa construction na architecture ni vitu viwili tofauti.

 

[FRANC THE GREAT]

Miundombinu kama ipi mkuu?

Mipango miji.

Pitia hii website ya kampuni niliyoitaja awali (Kohn Pedersen Fox). Wameorodhesha projects zote walizohusika nchini China:

Search | KPF

www.kpf.com

 

[Afta]

Nembo Zina signify uthabiti wa Taifa, Eagle vs Dragon. Sijui kwanini sisi tulichagua Twiga

Dah! Kumbe ndo hivyo mkuu

 

[Mzee wa kupambania]

Mipango miji.

Pitia hii website ya kampuni niliyoitaja awali (Kohn Pedersen Fox). Wameorodhesha projects zote walizohusika nchini China:

Search | KPF

www.kpf.com

Hiyo kampuni inadeal na architecture wala sio mipango miji.

China iko katika boom ya ujenzi kukuta kampuni za kigeni za usanifu majengo zikifanya kazi ni kawaida

Kama ni hivyo mbona kuna kampuni za China zinafanya ujenzi Marekani.

Kwa mfano kuna inayoitwa China Construction America inajenga majengo marefu, hotel, barabara, na madaraja n.k huko USA

Na hata headquarters yake iko Washington. Soma hiyo link hapo uone na projects wanazofanya na walizofanya Marekani

150 Charles Street – China Construction America

www.chinaconstruction.us