COINCIDENCE: Moja ya ushahidi wa uwepo wa Mungu

COINCIDENCE: Moja ya ushahidi wa uwepo wa Mungu

Kiranga said:
Watajichanganya sana tu.
Click to expand...

Utajichanganya wewe unayekariri mambo ili tu useme hakuna mungu.

Umeshindwa kutofautisha kujipinga na uongo halafu unakuja kusema mungu kajipinga.

Bado nahitaji kujua tofauti ya ushahidi na uthibitisho. Maana bado ile hoja yako ya kusema kisichokuwepo hakithibitishiki hatujamalizana.
 
UHURU JR said:
Utajichanganya wewe unayekariri mambo ili tu useme hakuna mungu.

Umeshindwa kutofautisha kujipinga na uongo halafu unakuja kusema mungu kajipinga.

Bado nahitaji kujua tofauti ya ushahidi na uthibitisho. Maana bado ile hoja yako ya kusema kisichokuwepo hakithibitishiki hatujamalizana.
Click to expand...

Kujipinga na uongo nimekueleza mpaka mfano nimekutolea. Isitoshe, kama mungubwenu kajipinga au muongo, kipi ni sifa nzuri hapo?

Tofauti ya ushahidi na uthibitisho utataka vipi kuielewa na wewe hutaki kuelewa set theory?

Kimsingi umeshasema hutaki kuelewa tofauti ya ushahidi na uthibitisho, halafu hapo hapo unaandika unahitaji kujua tofauti ya uthibitisho na ushahidi.

Unaelewa unachotaka?
 
Kiranga said:
Unajuaje nimesahau?
Click to expand...

Kwa sababu ungekuwa unakumbuka usingekuja kusema sijafafanua,mi nilijua utasema nimejibu tofauti na ndiyo maana mwishoni nikasema sijui kama umenielewa. Ila wewe umeshindwa kunielewa kabisa tofauti na nilivyofikiri,kwa sababu haukuwa unakumbuka.
 
UHURU JR said:
Kwa sababu ungekuwa unakumbuka usingekuja kusema sijafafanua,mi nilijua utasema nimejibu tofauti na ndiyo maana mwishoni nikasema sijui kama umenielewa. Ila wewe umeshindwa kunielewa kabisa tofauti na nilivyofikiri,kwa sababu haukuwa unakumbuka.
Click to expand...

Ulichofafanua kipi?

Wewe unaweza kuona umefafanua kumbe umeanguka kama mgonjwa wa kifafa.

So far naona unazuga tu.

Hujathibitisha kwamba mungu yupo. Hiki hujafanya. Bisha.

Hujaeleza imekuwaje mungu mwenye uwezo wote, ujuzi wote na upendo wote ameumba ulimwengu unaowezekana kuwa na mabaya, wakati alikuwa na uwezo wote wa kuumba ulimwengu ambao mabaya hayawezekani.

Hujajibu maswali haya.
 
Kiranga said:
Kujipinga na uongo nimekueleza mpaka mfano nimekutolea. Isitoshe, kama mungubwenu kajipinga au muongo, kipi ni sifa nzuri hapo?

Tofauti ya ushahidi na uthibitisho utataka vipi kuielewa na wewe hutaki kuelewa set theory?

Kimsingi umeshasema hutaki kuelewa tofauti ya ushahidi na uthibitisho, halafu hapo hapo unaandika unahitaji kujua tofauti ya uthibitisho na ushahidi.

Unaelewa unachotaka?
Click to expand...

Mwanasiasa aliyetoa ahadi lakini hakuzitekeleza,ni muongo au kajipinga?haujajibu swali hili.

Na kuhusu mungu pamoja na theory yako bado huwezi kusema kajipinga kilichofanyika ni kulazimisha mambo yawe hivyo tu.

Inamaana na wewe unatakiwa ukasome ukristo au uislamu ili kumjua mungu ndiyo uje tujadiliane hapa kama yupo au hayupo?(sijui kama unanielewa?)
 
Kiranga said:
Ulichofafanua kipi?

Wewe unaweza kuona umefafanua kumbe umeanguka kama mgonjwa wa kifafa.

So far naona unazuga tu.

Hujathibitisha kwamba mungu yupo. Hiki hujafanya. Bisha.

Hujaeleza imekuwaje mungu mwenye uwezo wote, ujuzi wote na upendo wote ameumba ulimwengu unaowezekana kuwa na mabaya, wakati alikuwa na uwezo wote wa kuumba ulimwengu ambao mabaya hayawezekani.

Hujajibu maswali haya.
Click to expand...

Umeshindwa kuelewa swali na hadi sasa unashindwa kuelewa ninachokueleza.

Mimi naishia hapa.
 
where does the authority of the higher logical reasoning come from Kiranga
 
Last edited by a moderator:
REALITY said:
where does the authority of the higher logical reasoning come from Kiranga
Click to expand...

It's ability to subject itself to scrutiny and still remain valid.

Where does the authority of your god come from?

Hujathibitisha mungu yupo.

Hujaeleza unawezaje kuuliza awali bila logic.

Hujaeleza imekuwaje mungu mwenye uwezo wote na upendo wote kaumba ulimwengu ambao unawezekana kuwa na mabaya wakati aliweza kuumba ulimwengu ambao mabaya hayawezekani?

Huyu mungu mbona katubania wakati angeweza kutupetesha kirahisi tu? Anatupenda kweli?

Yupo kweli?

Au ni hadithi zisizo na uhalisi tu?
 
Last edited by a moderator:
where did its ability came from ,and saying itself ,itself what? Kiranga
 
Last edited by a moderator:
ambaye anaumba ufanye tu mazuri na ambaye anaumba ufanye mabaya na mazuri kwa maana ya uhuru wote yupi anauwezo wote na upendo wote? Kiranga Eiyer
 
Last edited by a moderator:
ka ukijua huwezi mjua Mungu mpaka umjue shetani vizuri maana pia anaharibu constitency
 
REALITY said:
where did its ability came from ,and saying itself ,itself what? Kiranga
Click to expand...

What ability? Logic is a description of the world, not an ability.

It's reliability comes from verification and reverification.

I am answering your questions.You are not answering my questions.

Where does your god get his authority from?

Where dows he get his ability?
 
Last edited by a moderator:
REALITY said:
ambaye anaumba ufanye tu mazuri na ambaye anaumba ufanye mabaya na mazuri kwa maana ya uhuru wote yupi anauwezo wote na upendo wote? Kiranga Eiyer
Click to expand...

Kwanza kabisa ni uongo kusema kwamba tumeumbwa kwa uhuru wote.

Hata hatukuulizwa kama tunataka kuzaliwa au hatutaki, hatukuwa na uchaguzi. Uhuru gani huo?

Pili, leo nikitaka nisafiri nirudi mwaka jana na kutengeneza mabaya niliyofanya ili yawe tofauti siwezi kufanya hivyo, muda unaenda mbele tu, siwezi kuurudisha nyuma. Uhuru gani huo?

Tatu, mungu alishindwa kuumba ulimwengu ambao hauna mabaya lakini una uhuru? Si tunaambiwa mungu hashindwi kitu, alishindwa hilo?
 
Last edited by a moderator:
AlP0L0 said:
Mwite Kafiri! Mtu asie amini uwepo wa Mungu huitwa Kafiri na Ukafiri wake.
Click to expand...

Kafiri pekee aloyebaki katika ulimwengu wa leo wa elimu ni yule anayeita wengine makafiri bila hata simile.
 
Kiranga said:
Swali linatumia logic kuundwa, wewe usiyejali logic utajuaje kuuliza swali?
Click to expand...

Mwanasiasa anayetoa ahadi halafu hazitekelezi je,ni kujipinga au ni uongo?mbona hujibu hili swali.
 
UHURU JR said:
Mwanasiasa anayetoa ahadi halafu hazitekelezi je,ni kujipinga au ni uongo?mbona hujibu hili swali.
Click to expand...

Kabla ya kujibu swali, nijikite kwenye tuhuma kwamba sijajibu hili swali.

Kutonibu maswali kiko katika himaya yako. Hii si tabia yangu. Ni tabia yako.

Hujajibu swali la kuthibitisha uwepo wa mungu. Hujajibu swali la kqa nini mungu mwenye uwezo wote na ujuzi wite kaumba ulimwengu ambao unaruhusu mabaya kuwepo wakati aloweza kuumba ulimwengu ambao mabaya hayawezi kuwepo?

Umeuliza wapi hili swali lako la mwanasiasa nikashindwa kulijibu, naomba utoe link hapa.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Our Community

Regional Communities

Back
Top Bottom
Menu
Forums
New posts
Log in
Register