Dini ni kwa ajili ya "Low minded people", Genius can't be trapped!

[hateeb10]

😓Unazunguka..good day sir..msalimie mudi ukifika akhera na nibakshie bikra 4 na mito ya pombe😂

Sawa,vipi kuhusu evidence? Ipo?


Kwa kuwa evidence huna,..wala kina Darwin pia hawana...Basi tukubaliane kwamba Evolution theory ni chai.💯

 

[SimbaMpole123]

Sawa,vipi kuhusu evidence? Ipo?


Kwa kuwa evidence huna,..wala kina Darwin pia hawana...Basi tukubaliane kwamba Evolution theory ni chai.💯

Ingia google such evidences of evolution. Hutaki niache

 

[Kisai]

1. Mungu yupo au hayupo? I don't know... I don't know coz Sina evidence kuprove uwepo wake.. same as Sina evidence kuprove hayupo. But Mungu wa religion who is all powerful all knowing and all loving hawezi kuwepo coz hivyo vitatu vina contradict each other na pia vina contradict na uhalisia wa ulimwengu

Onyesha contradiction ilipo, usiseme tu hawezi kuwepo.

Kisha utuambie misingi yako ni ipi unayo igemea ili kujua hayupo ?

2. Bac mi na Imani kuwa tumeumbwa na Optimus prime ambae yeye hajaumbwa... prove me wrong

Safi kabisa, huyo Optimus Prime ni nani ? Mimi simjui ndio namsikia kwako.

Nipie habari zake na utuambie alituumbaje sisi na wewe umejuaje kama yeye ndio ametuumba.

3. Hata wahindu na wagiriki miungu Yao inasemekana imeumba kila kitu na evidence Yao ni hivyo vitu vilivyoumbwa..mbona humuabudu Zeus, brahma etc?

Hili la Wahindu tukiache kwanza sababu nalo ni jepesi sana kulikosoa. Tuishi katika mtazamo wako na mtazamo wangu ambao nasema Allah ndie ametuumba.

4. There's no historical or scientific evidence to suggest that Jesus did miracles or/and resurrected.. the best evidence u have ni vitabu vinne out of more than 10 vilivyoandikwa about his life navyo vimechaguliwa tu na wahuni na bado vina contradictions na errors kibao...so bado it's nothing

Kwanini ushahidi wa Kihistoria au Ushahidi wa kisayansi ? Niambie ukamilifu wa Sayansi ni upi mpaka uwe kigezo cha ithibati.

 

[Chosen Rich]

Umeelewa ulichokiandika lakini

Nkuulize wewe umeelewa nlichoandika ?

 

[SimbaMpole123]

Onyesha contradiction ilipo, usiseme tu hawezi kuwepo.

Kisha utuambie misingi yako ni ipi unayo igemea ili kujua hayupo ?

Safi kabisa, huyo Optimus Prime ni nani ? Mimi simjui ndio namsikia kwako.

Nipie habari zake na utuambie alituumbaje sisi na wewe umejuaje kama yeye ndio ametuumba.

Hili la Wahindu tukiache kwanza sababu nalo ni jepesi sana kulikosoa. Tuishi katika mtazamo wako na mtazamo wangu ambao nasema Allah ndie ametuumba.

Kwanini ushahidi wa Kihistoria au Ushahidi wa kisayansi ? Niambie ukamilifu wa Sayansi ni upi mpaka uwe kigezo cha ithibati.

1. An all knowing all loving all powerful deity cannot allow evil to exist..
2. The same way Allah anasema kaumba ulimwengu the same way Optimus prime naamini kasema
3. Ushahidi ambao ni verifiable... Nikisema ninamiliki iphone 13 utataka nikuonyeshe...Nikisema unabidi tu uamini hivyo hivyo utanipuuzia na kuniona kichaa... that's how I see u

 

[Kiranga]

Yani mimi nitegemee kufundishwa na Kiranga jambo pana kama hili na nkamuelewa just simple tu ?

Mnalazimisha tuelewe tu ?? Kama wewe unaweza ukafundishwa na yeye ni sawa upo sahihi.

Mnatumia mazao ya fikra za watu wengine kuwa ndio fikra zenu ( Ninyi ni watumwa wa hizi elimu ) zimewafunga msifikiri nje ya elimu mlizozipata.

Mimi namuamini Mungu, Na nkupe tu siri imenifanya kuwa na uwezo binafsi wa kuchimba mambo mengine mengi zaidi, ambayo mengine napata majibu ya hiki mnachokiita science, kwa maana hiyo kwa kutumia ufikiri wangu binafsi napata majibu ya kuhusu mambo mbali mbali yanayoshahabiana na hao mnaowaamini nyinyi ( science/scientists )...Utofauti Mimi nipo huru kifikra, nyinyi hampo huru.

Kwa kuongezea, Mimi namuamini Mungu kwa namna yangu peke yangu.

Hujakanusha mantiki niliyoiandika.

Kumuamini Mungu unaruhusiwa, hiyo ni haki yako ya kikatiba.

Katiba ya Tanzania ina kipengele cha uhuru wa kuabudu ama kuchagua kutoabudu. Siwezi na sitaki kukuingilia kwenye uhuru huu kama mimi nisivyotaka uniingilie.

Katika Universal Declaration of Human Rights ya UN, una haki ya kuamini Mungu utakavyo. Hili limepitishwa na Umoja wa Mataifa tangu December 10 1948.

Hili hata mimi nisiyeamini Mungu, nitatetea haki yako ya kuamini Mungu utakavyo.

Kuamini Mungu si issue hapa, after all kuamini Mungu ni issue personal wala sielewi kwa nini ifanyiwe mjadala hapa JF.

Jambo linalojadilika JF ni kutafuta facts, ukweli, si imani tu, je, Mungu yupo kweli?

Ukweli ni zaidi ya imani, kwa sababu, kwenye imani, unaweza kuamini hata uongo. Ukweli upo tu, ukiuamini, usipouamini, upo tu.

Naomba tutenganishe habari za imani tu, na habari za facts.

Hizi habari za Mungu kuwapo ni fact Mungu yupo? ni ukweli Mungu yupo? Au ni imani tu?

Mpaka sasa, hakuna aliyethibitisha Mungu yupo.

Hakuna aliyeweza kuiweka habari ya uwepo wa Mungu kwa misingi ya facts, kwa kuiondoa kwenye imani tupu, kwa kutumia mantiki ya kutafuta ukweli.

Na zaidi, ukizichambua habari za kuwepo kwa huyo Mungu, unaona contradictions na inconsistencies zinazoonesha Mungu huyo hayupo, Mungu huyo ni wa hadithi za kiimani tu zilizotungwa na watu.

Ndiyo maana mpaka leo hakuna mtu aliyethibitisha Mungu huyo yupo.

Hayupo, hivyo huwezi kuthibitisha kwamba yupo.

Ukibisha, thibitisha Mungu yupo.

 

[Kisai]

1. An all knowing all loving all powerful deity cannot allow evil to exist..

Kwanini na umejuaje hili ?

. The same way Allah anasema kaumba ulimwengu the same way Optimus prime naamini kasema

Jibu swali nililo kuuliza, tukiwaambia hamna akili mnalia mnalia.

. Ushahidi ambao ni verifiable... Nikisema ninamiliki iphone 13 utataka nikuonyeshe...Nikisema unabidi tu uamini hivyo hivyo utanipuuzia na kuniona kichaa... that's how I see u

Bado hujajibu nilicho kuuliza.

 

[Kisai]

😓 Nionyeshe Australia bac kwenye Quran... Muhammad Alifika? Yesu Alifika?

Jibu maswali niliyo kuuliza.

 

[Kisai]

. We unasema Allah ni Mungu coz kaumba ulimwengu. Mhindi atasema brahma, kina classical Greeks watasema Zeus, kina Norse watasema Odin... na wao evidence Yao itakuwa hio hio sijui angalia jua cjui inaweza jitengeza yenyewe? No, hence "insert your god" is real . My question to u is... why u believe Allah is a real god na wengine ni false..nipe sababu outside the fact that umezaliwa location or/and familia ya kiislamu, au umeslim for personal gains such as ndoa, kazi au biashara.

Ndio tunasema hamna akili, yaani mna assume tu, nenda kawaulize hao Mahindu, Mabudha maswali hayo kama watakupa majibu kama nayo kupa Mimi.

Sababu Allah ni tofauti na hiyo miungu mingine unayo itaja, sababu Historia ya dini hizo machimbuko yake ni binadamu lakini Uislamu sio chimbuko la Mwanadamu.

 

[SimbaMpole123]

Kwanini na umejuaje hili ?

Jibu swali nililo kuuliza, tukiwaambia hamna akili mnalia mnalia.


Bado hujajibu nilicho kuuliza.

If he's all powerful he can prevent evil, if he's all knowing he knows how can prevent it if he's all loving he cares abt preventing it...hence bado evil ipo... if ukisema freewill cjui he can create a world with freewill n without evil..if not he's not all powerful if it is a test, he knows the results already otherwise he's not all knowing...😂so again...ur version of god n the existence of evil... contradict each other...both cannot exist at the same time

 

[SimbaMpole123]

Jibu maswali niliyo kuuliza.

😂Ushaanza kujizungusha..kwaheri

 

[SimbaMpole123]

Ndio tunasema hamna akili, yaani mna assume tu, nenda kawaulize hao Mahindu, Mabudha maswali hayo kama watakupa majibu kama nayo kupa Mimi.

Sababu Allah ni tofauti na hiyo miungu mingine unayo itaja, sababu Historia ya dini hizo machimbuko yake ni binadamu lakini Uislamu sio chimbuko la Mwanadamu.

😂So mudi alikuwa nzi au kangaroo?

 

[kibobori mahoro]

Anaepiga magoti mbele ya sanamu (ya kizungu) kwa maombi. Imekaaje?

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[Kisai]

If he's all powerful he can prevent evil, if he's all knowing he knows how can prevent it if he's all loving he cares abt preventing it...hence bado evil ipo... if ukisema freewill cjui he can create a world with freewill n without evil..if not he's not all powerful if it is a test, he knows the results already otherwise he's not all knowing...😂so again...ur version of god n the existence of evil... contradict each other...both cannot exist at the same time

Kijana jibu maswali niliyo kuulizia, mbona unaruka ruka ?

 

[Kisai]

😂Ushaanza kujizungusha..kwaheri

Kwahiyo kuambiwa ujibu maswali najizungusha ? Hii si ndio tabia yenu ya kukimbia maswali ? Ndio maana nashikilia hapa hapa, wewe ruka ruka.

Kwanini hujibu maswali niliyo kuuliza ?

 

[Kisai]

😂So mudi alikuwa nzi au kangaroo?

Jibu maswali niliyo kuulizia. Kama hujibu maswali hamna maana ya kujadiliana.

 

[DR Mambo Jambo]

u r moving the goalposts..😂again u being illogical...wamepata unasema unataka ancestor wake...wakimpata utataka kingine...😂we tunaomba evidence ya Adam na Eva in a garden with a talking snake,

Hakuna Any evidence inayosuggest kuwa kuna Nyoka aliyewahi kuwa intelligence (Mwerevu) kuliko viumbe vyote.....
By the way even Nerves channel zake zenyewe hazisupport what Dini Told us...
Ikiwa huwezi pata hicho huwez kupata evidence ya uwepo wa Adam and eve .
Evidence ya dunia hii ikipimwa ina miaka zaidi ya 100k lakini dunia ya Biblia na Quran ina miaka 6004 tu ...
Its sound Insult and silly

 

[DR Mambo Jambo]

Kiukweli ukiamini uwe na uthibitisho wa uyasemayo vinginevyo haunatofauti na walio na matatizo ya afya ya akili

 

[SimbaMpole123]

Kijana jibu maswali niliyo kuulizia, mbona unaruka ruka ?

Umeuliza Nini hujajibiwa mkuu

 

[SimbaMpole123]

Hakuna Any evidence inayosuggest kuwa kuna Nyoka aliyewahi kuwa intelligence (Mwerevu) kuliko viumbe vyote.....
By the way even Nerves channel zake zenyewe hazisupport what Dini Told us...
Ikiwa huwezi pata hicho huwez kupata evidence ya uwepo wa Adam and eve .
Evidence ya dunia hii ikipimwa ina miaka zaidi ya 100k lakini dunia ya Biblia na Quran ina miaka 6004 tu ...
Its sound Insult and silly

😂Mi Nikisema ninaambiwa usimchunguze Mungu