East African Federation (EAF) public Views

East African Federation (EAF) public Views

Mzalendo,
Sorry i forgot to mention, we have the most organised youth service in the continent, the service is indepenedent of the police/army although it is also military trained. much of the work however is civil with own budget.

In regards to Ukabila, it exists in politicians minds as a way of using ethnic backgrounds to acquire votes. Give Tz more time, when politics evolve politicians will introduce tribalism in your country,

Kenya will not go the western african way, we have had more challenges than Tz, UG or ivory coast et al. In your eyes we may appear to have differences but we are very much united.





Why would you spend billions of tshs to train jeshi la Mgambo only to employ them as Watchmen!!!.., train them to modern farming methods, Nurses, teachers, mechanics etc.. In Kenya some of the best technicians/engineers have been through the NYS Programme.

Remember the main issues are Illitracy, Poverty, Disease and ignorance, we all are patriots. " HATUWEZI KULA PATRIOTISM" you cant be a patriot on a hungry stomach...

In regards to Moi's appointment, he is the best person to handle the fragile southern Sudan issues as he may be the only person Bashir and Salva Kir can listen to and was also the very person who brought peace to that region. Though its too early to know how his appointment will help the people in the region.


Mkenya,
Nampenda Moi kwa kuwa alijenga Vyuo Vikuu vingi Kenya- na pia ni profesa wa Siasa!
Hata Tz pia shule sasa zinajengwa kwa wingi sana- and many Universities too! The problem is serious shortage of teachers from primary to University levels! They have doubled the intake at secondary schools and primary level national enrolment is 97%! May be we come to Kenya (Mtukufu!)- to get some teachers! Pia they will buuld new dispesaries in each ward from this financial year!
Unajua hapa Tz we had an excellent program of national service in Africa till mid 90s - and I attended it- so what I give you is my experience- it is a good thing- we produced a lot of food for ourselves and to feed the nation- it is not an expense really!
Vipi motomoto wa uraisi huko? Will Raila succeed Kibaki? I like Raila- he is a new blood! What is your analysis!
 
Mkenya

"Remember the main issues are Illitracy, Poverty, Disease and ignorance, we all are patriots. " HATUWEZI KULA PATRIOTISM" you cant be a patriot on a hungry stomach..."

BIG YES
but trying to show us as if Kenya is in right way my dear ur wrong.Tupe statistics nzuri ndugu ,kwanza Kenya haina High school ila ina secondary school na hii imepigiwa kelele kwenye hilo EAF.

Kuhusu hao wanaotaka kuandaa mgambo mimi naita ni ukosefu wa fikra na sera za kuwaondolea wananchi kero.sisi kelele yetu ni njaa sasa watu wanakuja na fikra mfu zilizopitwa na wakati kama jeshi hilo lilifanya vyema miaka hiyo si kigezo ,wenda sasa matunda yake yakawa Zero.
Wasomeshe watu tena ikibidi iwe free na wajadili mambo yanayolenga maendeleo PATRIOTISM kitu gani Hakuna mtu anyesahau kwao kama amepewa uhuru wa kutosha na kwao ni maisha Bora u patriotism utakuja wenyewe.
Tujifunzeni kwa wa Hindi wana uraia wa aina nyingi anachuma TZ ,anacuma Uganda ,anachuma Kenya ,anachuma England na kwingine kote duniani anaenda kujenga kwao INDIA,iangalieni inavyokuja kasi india,sisi tukiambiwa eti patritism.Kusomesha watu mpaka tuwape mkopo tena wamasharti balaa na ili uupate mpaka uuandamane.
Viogonzi baada ya kujenga sera za kumkomboa mwananchi wao eti EAF sasa itamtoaje mwananchi hiyo EAF ambaye hata kwa siku anabahatisha mlo???? Hizo fedha walizotumia kukusanya maoni badala ya kuongeza kule ili wajenge shule wao wanafunja kwa upuuzi wa kukusanya maoni na wanaenda kumdidimiza mwanachi anayesaka mlo mmoja kwa siku kwa kumchangisha fedha ya kujenga shule HII NI BUSARA KWELI?????????
 
Kenya sio mfano wa kuigwa bali kuogopwa. Huyo Moi kaiba pesa ya walipa kodi hadi anatapika mapesa. Hebu tuondoleeni huu uchuro!
 
Kenya sio mfano wa kuigwa bali kuogopwa. Huyo Moi kaiba pesa ya walipa kodi hadi anatapika mapesa. Hebu tuondoleeni huu uchuro!

Moi ana mapungufu yake- ile katk elimu ya juu tangu 78-02 alipoachia ngazi alijenga 4 big public Universities. JK ndo sasa nafikiri kujenga only one at Ddma.
Rushwa wapo wengi tu duniani! A coin has two sides!
 
Una uhakika Moi aliachia ngazi 78? JK hajajenga chuo kikuu hata kimoja hiki cha Dodoma hakijaanza na nafikiri amerithi tu kutoka kwa Ben. Nafikiri bado kwa mawazo yangu Moi ni mfano mbaya sana hadi alipotolewa madarakani. Angekuwa mfano mzuri tungeona mengi.
 
Una uhakika Moi aliachia ngazi 78? JK hajajenga chuo kikuu hata kimoja hiki cha Dodoma hakijaanza na nafikiri amerithi tu kutoka kwa Ben. Nafikiri bado kwa mawazo yangu Moi ni mfano mbaya sana hadi alipotolewa madarakani. Angekuwa mfano mzuri tungeona mengi.

I mean 78-02
Sorry!
 
Hawa ma viranja wa Afrika
Hakuna hata mmoja wa kuiga Moi ndio Balaa tupu ,Afrika tunahitaji ukombozi wa kweli na ningependa uanzie hapa TZ.

Mambo ya Mkenya kutupa mifano ya Kenya wakati kenya choka mbaya, ni kupotea.
saizi Afrika tupo chini ya ukoloni wa watu weusi
 
Kenyans 'Stole Sh1bn in U.S. Fraud Scheme'

The Nation (Nairobi)
NEWS
26 July 2007

By Mugumo Munene
Kansas City

Four Kenyans appeared in a US court chained hand and foot and dressed in the luminous orange American jail uniform to answer charges in a multi-million dollar tax swindling case. The alleged wire fraud scheme involved stealing the identities of hundreds of victims, primarily nursing home residents, which were used to obtain more than $13.1 million (about Sh970 million) in fraudulent tax refunds.

Kenya's ambassador to the US, Mr Peter Oginga Ogego, who attended the court session, said Kenya would co-operate in the investigations and ensure that any suspects in Kenya are arrested and charged.

Clanging of chains

A hush fell over the courtroom as the four suspects were escorted in, the silence only punctuated by the clanging of the chains that fettered their hands and feet. And 30-year-old Loretta Wavinya was identified in court as the mastermind of the racket which prosecutors say illegally harvested millions of dollars from the American taxpayer. "Wavinya was the leader of the scheme," special agent Elizabeth Ackely said in her testimony.

Already, the court heard, Ms Wavinya planned to sell her house and car in Kansas City, 1,500 kilometres west of Washington, DC, and move to New York City. In the courtroom sat Mr Ogego, the embassy's First Secretary, Mr Mohammed Seif, and a handful of other Kenyans, eagerly following the proceedings. The diplomats had first held a meeting with US advocates Brent Powell and Jeffrey Valenti at which they were briefed on the status of the cases facing 17 individuals, 12 of whom are believed to be Kenyans.

Mr Ogego told the Nation afterwards that the Government would offer support in hunting down at least five other suspects believed to be in Kenya. Authorities here are looking for three other Kenyans believed to be residing in the US and who they say are suspects in the case. "We have been assured that these will be treated as individual criminal cases and will not be used to taint the good name of hard-working Kenyans. They were very expressive about it. It's a reprieve for Kenyans over the anxiety they have had about this case," Mr Ogego said.

Yesterday, the four Kenyan suspects already in custody appeared before magistrate judge John T. Maughmer, who will decide whether to give them bond or retain them in jail pending the full hearing and determination of their cases.

Heard evidence

Before the court were Mr Aaron Mutavi, 28, Mr Moses Ndubai, 33, Ms Lilian Nzongi, 26, and Ms Wavinya. Along with them were Mr Vincent Niagwara Ogega, whose nationality was not immediately established and Ms Parker Willingham, an American. The court heard evidence from special agent Ackley of the Internal Revenue Service - the US equivalent of the Kenya Revenue Authority - relating to thousands of documents recovered from Ms Wavinya's house, car and her private store.

Along with the thousands of documents recovered were three laptops and one desktop computer, Ms Ackely said. The documents included lists of names of identities stolen from old people living in nursing homes, those used to execute the tax scam and those used to open and run numerous accounts in different banks across Kansas City.

In Ms Wavinya's custody were 11 driving licences which had been issued after claiming repeatedly that she had lost the last one, the court heard. It was the mountains of documents that revealed that Ms Wavinya had worked as a tax preparer, an X-Ray technician and a nurse. Ms Ackley told the court that she was in a team that raided Ms Wavinya's house last Wednesday where the suspect was found hiding in a space between the ceiling and the roof.

The witness said that her team had staked out outside Ms Wanyiva's for 10 minutes. "We knew there was someone when we knocked because we had seen the lights go out. But when we knocked, she did not open." When the agents broke in, they searched the house and found Ms Wavinya tucked in a corner in the ceiling above a closet. "You had to step in a closet to see her," Ms Ackley said.

The agent showed the court documents revealing how Ms Wavinya directed the filing of over 350 fraudulent tax refunds claims using identities stolen from unsuspecting residents of old people's homes. They are filed through the Internet, which the conspirators used as a window of opportunity to file for refunds using stolen identities. They then requested the Internal Revenue Service to pay the money into bank accounts they controlled.

As she directed the scheme, raking in millions of dollars in cash for the co-conspirators, investigators found that Ms Wavinya did not file her own tax returns since 2002, Ms Ackley said. The US Attorney for Missouri, Mr John Wood, has cautioned that the charges are still accusations and not evidence of guilt. Evidence supporting the charges will subsequently be presented to a federal trial jury, whose duty is to determine guilt or innocence. According to the charges, conspirators allegedly filed at least 365 fraudulent federal tax returns during the course of the conspiracy that began in February 2005. They also allegedly filed fraudulent tax returns seeking refunds in 27 different states.

Some of the money obtained through the fraudulent scheme was wired into Kenyan bank accounts and part of it withdrawn through ATMs.
 
Aristocrat has 'case to answer'

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Old Etonian Mr Cholmondeley could face the death penalty if convicted

A British aristocrat accused of murdering a man who had been poaching on his Kenyan estate has a case to answer, a court has ruled. Thomas Cholmondeley, 38, a descendant of white settler Lord Delamere, denies the murder of 37-year-old Robert Njoya. The court has heard from 38 prosecution witnesses since it opened in September. Under the Kenyan system judges can end the trial at that point if there is insufficient evidence, but in this case have ruled the defence should go ahead.

Defence lawyers for Mr Cholmondley, who faces the death penalty if convicted, are due to call seven witnesses. He has already said he shot the poacher in self-defence, telling police after his arrest the man had three companions and a pack of dogs and he suspected them of poaching a gazelle. He said he shot at the group after they set their dogs on him, hitting the man - who died later on the way to hospital - and killing two dogs.

Second murder case

It is the second murder charge divorced father-of-two Mr Cholmondeley has faced. In 2005 he admitted shooting another man - Maasai ranger Samson Ole Sisina - but said he acted in self-defence, mistaking the warden for an armed robber.
The case was dropped due to insufficient evidence and his release prompted national outrage and mass protests from Maasais.

Opening the latest trial last year Keriako Tobiko, Kenya's director of public prosecutions, dismissed claims Mr Cholmondeley feared for his safety when he killed Mr Njoya.
"The accused attacked the deceased and his companions as retaliation or revenge for trespassing and poaching," he told the court.

The trial later heard that the shooting took place after a spate of armed robberies on Mr Cholmondeley's estate.
Ranch manager Koigi Kahugia told the Nairobi trial that the farm's managing director was shot in a hold-up and two other managers were robbed at gunpoint.

Spear

Mr Cholmondeley had driven the dying man to hospital, the court also heard. Witness Karl Tundo said he had been walking through dense bush, a few metres behind the defendant, when he had heard voices and then three or four shots in quick succession.
Mr Tundo said: "Tom [Mr Cholmondeley] shouted at me to go and get the car because he had hit someone by mistake."
Another witness, Peter Gichuhi, said he was among poachers accompanying Mr Njoya.

At one point he admitted he had lied under oath to the court when he said he had not been carrying a spear. He said he and two other poachers had walked deep into the estate when suddenly shots rang out. Mr Gichuhi said he dropped a large blade and a Thomson's Gazelle that they had found trapped in a snare and fled on foot, but never saw Mr Njoya alive again.

soma hapa


Kutoka Wikipedia Aristocracy =
The term aristocracy refers to a form of government where power is held by a small number of individuals from an elite or from noble families. Only this elite is allowed to compete for power and to hold the most powerful positions in state. The transmission of power is often hereditary.
In aristocratic government, power is thus confined to an elite drawn from a single caste, or social class.
It is derived from two Ancient Greek words, "aristos" meaning the "best" and "kratein" "to rule" and so aristocracy originally meant "rule by the best". Aristocracies have most often been hereditary plutocracies (see below), with a belief in their own superiority. Aristocracies often include a monarch who although a member of the aristocracy rules over the aristocracy as well as the rest of society. Aristocracy can also refer to the highest class in society even if they do not rule directly.

Huyu ni muuaji kama wauaji wengine. Tutaona mengi hapa.
 
Aristocrat has 'case to answer'

Kutoka Wikipedia Aristocracy =
The term aristocracy refers to a form of government where power is held by a small number of individuals from an elite or from noble families. Only this elite is allowed to compete for power and to hold the most powerful positions in state. The transmission of power is often hereditary.
In aristocratic government, power is thus confined to an elite drawn from a single caste, or social class.

It is derived from two Ancient Greek words, "aristos" meaning the "best" and "kratein" "to rule" and so aristocracy originally meant "rule by the best". Aristocracies have most often been hereditary plutocracies (see below), with a belief in their own superiority. Aristocracies often include a monarch who although a member of the aristocracy rules over the aristocracy as well as the rest of society. Aristocracy can also refer to the highest class in society even if they do not rule directly.

Dua,

I dont know why you brought such irrelevant news from, You also have issues of the likes Ditopile in Tz. who is out..

Wacha fitina bwana, matope ya nini?.
 
Mkenya,
Nampenda Moi kwa kuwa alijenga Vyuo Vikuu vingi Kenya- na pia ni profesa wa Siasa!
Hata Tz pia shule sasa zinajengwa kwa wingi sana- and many Universities too! The problem is serious shortage of teachers from primary to University levels! They have doubled the intake at secondary schools and primary level national enrolment is 97%! May be we come to Kenya (Mtukufu!)- to get some teachers! Pia they will buuld new dispesaries in each ward from this financial year!
Unajua hapa Tz we had an excellent program of national service in Africa till mid 90s - and I attended it- so what I give you is my experience- it is a good thing- we produced a lot of food for ourselves and to feed the nation- it is not an expense really!
Vipi motomoto wa uraisi huko? Will Raila succeed Kibaki? I like Raila- he is a new blood! What is your analysis!

I am happy to hear that Tz are putting up many schools that is the right direction. In regards to Teachers, Kenya has a total of 325,000 employed teachers and about 100,000 unemployed, this we can export to Tanzania, but there is a general feeling that Kenyans are unwanted in Tanzania infact recently our trade minister joked that it is easier for a South African driver to get a work permit than a Kenyan Manager in Tanzania.

Most of tour teachers are ending up looking for jobs in Seycheles, UK, Uganda and south sudan.

Back to Kenyan elections, Kibaki looks like he will retain the seat for another 5 years. Raila represents the new generations but lacks proper platform to offer any serois challenge to Kibaki, his ODM Party is on its deathbed.
 
Mkenya on 17th July 2007

Tunajivunia kuwa East Africans..
See the medals table at the just concluded 5th IAAF World Youth Championships in Ostrava, Czech Republic



http://www.iaaf.org/WYC07/results/medals.html

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Mkenya today 30th July 2007

Aristocrat has 'case to answer'

Kutoka Wikipedia Aristocracy =
The term aristocracy refers to a form of government where power is held by a small number of individuals from an elite or from noble families. Only this elite is allowed to compete for power and to hold the most powerful positions in state. The transmission of power is often hereditary.
In aristocratic government, power is thus confined to an elite drawn from a single caste, or social class.
It is derived from two Ancient Greek words, "aristos" meaning the "best" and "kratein" "to rule" and so aristocracy originally meant "rule by the best". Aristocracies have most often been hereditary plutocracies (see below), with a belief in their own superiority. Aristocracies often include a monarch who although a member of the aristocracy rules over the aristocracy as well as the rest of society. Aristocracy can also refer to the highest class in society even if they do not rule directly.


I dont know why you brought such irrelevant news from, You also have issues of the likes Ditopile in Tz. who is out..

Wacha fitina bwana, matope ya nini?.

Sasa fitina ni ipi hapa au matope? Kwani mzungu akiua Mkenya asisemwe? ndiyo hiyo nimekuwekea hapo juu usome vizuri maana ya aristocracy. Hizi ngebe zenu ndio zinawaponza ukisemwa ukweli mwaja juu.

Hao walimu wenu waliojifuza kiingereza cha kuombea maji wapelekeni huko huko Seycheles, UK, Uganda and south sudan. Sisi tutawafundisha wakwetu hapa hapa Tanzania. Endeleeni na kasumba ya bwana. Hivi hujiulizi kwa nini waingereza wanawapenda sana nyinyi? Wanawaua kama ndege huyo nguchiro hii sio mara ya kwanza ni ya pili BADO HUJIULIZI TU. HIYO KASUMBA YENU YA KUWAKUMBATIA NDIO HATUTAKI MTUAMBUKIZE.
 
jamani, kwanza kabisa niwapongeze wote mlionitangulia ktk tovuti hii kwa kazi nzuri.
mimi nilikaa na kujiuliza kwamba ; kama lengo la kukimbiilia shirikisho ni kufuta mikataba bomu tuliyoiingia na kuwafungulia na kuwakamata wala rushwa wote pasipo kuangalia cheo, basi tulikimbilie. lakini kama tunaenda huko ili tuwafiche hawa waujumu uchumi, na kukaribisha uhujumu mkubwa zaidi, bora tulipinge kwa nguvuzetu zote ili tubaki na wahujumu hawa wachache tuliowazoea
ijawebonere.blogspot.com
 
Museveni in Push for Union


The Nation (Nairobi)
14 September 2007

By Patrick Nzioka And Charles Mwanguhya Mpagi
Nairobi

Kenya and Uganda should move ahead with plans for an East African political federation and leave out Tanzania until it is ready, President Yoweri Museveni says.

Reports in Ugandan media say Mr Museveni sent his envoy to Kenya immediately after the extra-ordinary Heads of State summit in Tanzania last month with the message that Kenya and Uganda can move on with the idea without Tanzanians who are reluctant to embrace the proposal.

During the Heads if State meeting, Tanzania made it clear that while it was interested in a political federation, it would prefer a phased approach where the three countries would first consolidate economic gains before moving on with the political federation. The meeting recommended the establishment of a common market and a monetary union by 2012.

Sources say that President Museveni was unhappy with this outcome and sent an emissary to President Kibaki immediately after the meeting. In his speech in Arusha, Mr Museveni said there was overwhelming support for such a federation in the three countries. However, Tanzania has been sceptical about Uganda's designs in its push for the political federation ahead of an economic one.

Yesterday, Mr John Koech, Kenya's minister in charge of East Africa Cooperation said it was not possible for Kenya and Uganda to work towards a political federation while leaving out other players like Tanzania, Rwanda and Burundi.

Important thing

The latter two, he said, had just joined the community and needed time to catch up. "The important thing is to strengthen economic integration as we work step by step towards a political federation. It is therefore crucial to encourage Tanzania to speed up economic integration as we give time to Rwanda and Burundi to catch up", Mr Koech said.

National consultations in the three countries on political federation indicate that Ugandans and Kenyans were keen on fast-tracking the process while Tanzanians were reluctant. Sources say Mr Museveni's envoy told President Kibaki that Kenya had everything to gain if it used Tanzania's reluctance to consolidate its Ugandan market.
Good for them. We said this from before.
 
Museveni ana lake jambo..the man was so obssessed with his dream of becoming the first EAF president that he could not stop to think about the effect of his stupid proposal...ni wazi kwamba Tz kutaka hilo suala lisubiri imekuwa kero kwake kwasababu by the time inakuja kukubaliwa anajua hatakuwa tena raisi wa Ug and so ambition yake haitatimia...the poor fellow is living in a world of his own
 
Hivi anfikiri atawaweza wakenya?

Tanzania yamshangaa Rais Yoweri Museveni

Faraja Mgwabati
HabariLeo; Sunday,September 16, 2007


  • Ni kuhusu Shirikisho la Afrika Mashariki
TANZANIA imeshtushwa na taarifa kwamba Rais Yoweri Museveni wa Uganda ana mpango wa kuendelea na uharakishwaji wa Shirikisho kati ya nchi yake na Kenya na kuiacha Tanzania kinyume cha makubaliano ya nchi hizo tatu mwezi uliopita.

Vyombo vya habari vya Afrika Mashariki viliripoti jana kuwa Rais Yoweri Museveni ameitaka Kenya na nchi yake ziendelee na mpango wa kuharakisha uanzishwaji wa Shirikisho na kuiacha Tanzania mpaka itakapokuwa tayari.

Naibu Waziri wa Mambo ya Nje na Ushirikiano wa Kimataifa, Balozi Seif Ali Iddi, aliliambia HabariLeo mwishoni mwa wiki kuwa ameshangazwa na habari hizo kwa kuwa wakuu wa nchi za Afrika Mashariki walishaamua kusimamisha uharakishwaji wa Shirikisho hilo.

Balozi Iddi alisema hajapata taarifa rasmi kuhusiana na madai hayo, lakini watamuuliza Rais Museveni kujua kama ni kweli.

“Tutamuuliza kupitia Balozi wetu kule Uganda. Kwa sasa hatuwezi kusema zaidi kwa sababu hatujathibitisha,” alisema Balozi Iddi. Naibu Waziri alisema ingawa kisheria inaruhusiwa nchi zilizokuwa tayari kuendelea na zisizokuwa tayari kusubiri Shirikisho, lakini alihoji kwa nini Rais huyo wa Uganda hakusema nia yake hiyo kwenye kikao cha wakuu wa nchi hizo. Alisema serikali itatoa maelezo baada ya kuzungumza na Museveni.

Inasemekana Rais Museveni hakufurahishwa na matokeo ya kikao cha wakuu wa nchi za Afrika Mashariki kilichofanyika Arusha mwezi uliopita ambacho kiliamua kusimamisha mpango wa uharakishwaji wa Shirikisho hilo na badala yake kuanzisha soko la pamoja na sarafu moja ifikapo 2012.

Habari zinasema baada ya uamuzi wa kikao hicho, Museveni alituma ujumbe wake kwenda Kenya kumshawishi Rais Mwai Kibaki kwamba Kenya na Uganda ziendelee na mpango wa
kuharakisha shirikisho na kwamba Kenya itafaidika na mpango huo mpya hata kama Tanzania haitakuwapo.

Katika kikao hicho cha Arusha, Tanzania iliweka wazi kuwa kutokana na maoni ya Watanzania wengi kukataa mpango wa kuharakisha Shirikisho, ingependa ijiimarishe kwanza kiuchumi ndipo baadaye Shirikisho lifuate. Wachambuzi wa mambo wamekuwa wakisema kuwa Museveni alikuwa na hamu ya kuwa Rais wa Shirikisho hilo na ndiyo maana anataka kuanzishwa kwake hata kama wajumbe watakuwa nchi mbili tu.

Kwa mujibu wa wachambuzi hao, kukwama kwa uharakishwaji wa Shirikisho kumemfanya atafute mbinu nyingine ikiwa pamoja na kuiomba Kenya waungane. Katika hotuba yake ya hivi karibuni mjini Arusha, Museveni alinukuliwa akiwataka Watanzania kutoogopa Shirikisho na
kwamba ardhi na ajira yao vitalindwa.

Hata hivyo ,Waziri wa Kenya anayeshughulikia Afrika Mashariki, John Koech alisema haiwezekani Kenya na Uganda kuendelea na Shirikisho la Kisiasa na kuziacha Tanzania, Rwanda na Burundi.

“Ni vizuri kujiimarisha katika ushirikiano wa kiuchumi kabla ya kuunda Shirikisho la Kisiasa,” alisema Koech. Tayari Rwanda na Burundi zilishaweka msimamo wazi kwamba kwa kuwa wamejiunga na Jumuiya ya Afrika Mashariki hivi karibuni wanahitaji muda zaidi wa kuwashirikisha wananchi wake.
 
imekuwa kawaida kwa serikali ya mseveni kulaumiwa kwa kuburuza watu wake wakiwemo wapinzani tangu achukue madaraka ya kijeshi. Uganda nzima uwa kimya kwa jambo lolote alifanyalo au alifikirialo rais huyo.

mambo hayo hayo anataka kutuletea hata sisi tanzania ambayo ingawa demokrasia sio nzuri sana ila angalau ina haueni. kitendo cha yeye kutokubaliana na maoni ya wananchi wa nchi hizi tatu ni dhahili anataka kutimiza uvumi ambao umekuwepo wa kuunda ushirikiano utakaojulikana na kuwa chini ya Hima Empire, mseven kama rais wa kwanza mhima.
 
Mushobozi

Thank you very much for bringing up the Hima Empire issue. I googled around and came up with some real nasty discovery.

The moment Mugabe told Museveni: 'Your intelligence is exaggerated'

TheNewZimbabwe.com: http://www.newzimbabwe.com/pages/powell13.11729.html

It is a cold November winter of 1998 in Paris and President Jacques Chirac of France is host of a large conference of African statesmen. The presidents are assembled to discuss continuing armed conflict on the continent and the ever-increasing economic crisis of the countries in the region.

The following were in attendance: Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe, Yoweri Museveni of Uganda, Laurent Kabila of the Democratic Republic of Congo, Pasteur Bizimungu of Rwanda and Benjamin Mkapa of Tanzania. There was also Yama Jame of Gambia, Abdu Diof of Senegal, Meles Zenawi of Ethiopia, Joachim Chisano of Mozambique, Sam Nujoma of Namibia and Frederick Chiluba of Zambia to mention only a few.

The presidents were assembled to discuss continuing armed conflict on the continent and the ever-increasing economic crisis of the countries in the region.

The conversation finally settles down of the DRC. Uganda and Rwanda which had helped Kabila have turned against their proxy and organised armed resistance against him after a failed coup. However, Kabila has called in Zimbabwe, Angola and Namibia to help bolster his fledging government and it has worked. Kabila accuses Museveni and Kagame of Rwanda of a hidden plot to build a Hima-Tutsi empire.

"That Bizumungu you see over there," Kabila spits the words with disdain "he is a Hutu and just a figure head. Real power lies with Paul Kagame, his vice president. So there is no reason for Bizimungu to even sit in this meeting with other heads of state when he is only a personal assistant to Kagame."

Museveni interjects saying the meeting should discuss more serious issues. But nobody is real listening; and as matter of fact he has too many contrary minds all over the place, does Museveni.

Mugabe is pissed at this talk of 'more serious issues' and says the threat of a Hima-Tutsi empire is a real and serious issue; in tones that suggest he is convinced it is even the only issue that should be discussed here today. "I have always heard that you are a very intelligent and popular man," Mugabe tells Museveni right into his face, "I now think your intelligence is quite exaggerated."

And with that, the old man walks out of the meeting in protest, wagging his finger at Museveni and vowing to "fight to the death" against the "creation of a Hima-Tutsi empire." Jameh of Gambia also interjects, telling Museveni that he thought the Ugandan president was a new hope for Africa, "not an ethnic chauvinist bent on re-creating obsolete pre-historic empires". In the cacophony of voices, one voice is quiet. Chirac is completely taken apart by surprise at this remarkable outplay by Africa's leading statesmen.

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So, the Hima Empire is there for real my friends.

And the old man M7 as he's populary know in Uganda wants to see happen during his lifetime. It is all about HIM! He was very happy with the fast-tracking, I wonder what he promised our Mkapa by then. Kenya does not seem perplexed, because they also have an agenda of their own. So Tanzania discovers this, and remembers it once been bitten.. guess we are not ready for another ride.. Not Now!

M7 has personal ambitions. He is not satisfied with the "life-presidency" he is according himself in Uganda. He wants to rule Africa, and especially now that he's got oil so he has the money.

I say, to hell with the East African Federation. Let Tanzania continue to battle her own scourges, surely we don't need more trouble with this doomed EAF.

Conditions like these existed in the then EAC, and we all know what happened. The same is recurring, and they think we are still the same 'ol fools?
 
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