Historia ya Uhuru isimuliwavyo na Mohammed Said yakosolewa

[Nguruvi3]

Ritz,

Sadly to say wote hapa hawana intellectual authority to write a book or academic paper to challenge what Mohamed said has presented in front of them. Wengineo humu jamvini wanachokijua ni kutafuta mahali pa kukosoa wakikosa wanabadilisha maneno ili mjadala uonekane hauna maana.
Mohamed Said watu wengine tumemsoma kabla hata Jambo Forums haijaanzisha wala kufikiriwa kuanzishwa. Tunajua wapi tuliona utafiti wake. Na nyie andikeni tuwasome

Nimesoma kuanzia akiwa na Warsha halafu magazetini kisha kitabu miaka 20 iliyopita, pale ambapo sikuelewa sijawahi kupewa jibu. Kukosolewa kwa Mohamed ni kwasababu hataki kujadiliana anataka kusikilizwa kama alivyozoea. Kwa bahati mbaya hapa hatuwezi kukaa kimya tunasikiliza tu na wakati mwingine akichochea chuki, akipandikiza vurugu na akisema uongo. Ni uongo uliotutuka kusema kuwa mabucha ya nguruwe yana uhusiano na umasikini wa Tabora au Mtwara. Kwa wajinga huu ni utafiti kwa wenye akili zao huu ni unafiki. Nasema hivi kwa uhakika kwasababu ameshindwa kuthibitisha au kunausha hayo. Nasema hivi kwasababu Watanzani ni mashahidi kuwa hili linapandikizwa tu kutoka kichwani kwa mtu na kufanywa mada, halina mahusiano hata kwa bahati mbaya.
Uongo dhahiri shahiri tunausoma mubashir, na kama unadhani namuonea nipe jibuMdondoaji;2843841]

Ritz,Sadly to say wote hapa hawana intellectual authority to write a book or academic paper to challenge what Mohamed said has presented in front of them

He does not have intellectual capacity to defend his own theisis. Do you mean grandiosity and pomp is part of intellect!

Mohamed Said: Barubaru,Ahsante sana.Nguruvi aloweza kufanya kwangu ni kunitukana kunambia "nifunge mdomo."Kapandwa na hamaki

Nilidhani utalichukulia hili positive! Nakuonyesha kwanini nimesema kauli hiyo, na ukiniuliza nitairudia bila kufikiri. Mohamed kasema Tewa S Tewa alikuwa kiongozi wa EAMWS, na Nyerere alipoona ushawaishi wake akafanya njama za kumpeleka ubalozi China. Tewa akakubali nakwenda huko. Siku za mwisho za uhai wake akakukabidhi shajara na makabrasha yake. Sasa hivi unamuona shujaa wa EAMWS bila kujua kuwa alichokifanya kilikuwa usaliti wa kuweka tumbo mbele na si usilam wake. Sasa hapa ukiambiwa ufunge mdomo umetukanawa? Huoni kuwa ushujaa wake unaonekana kwako kwa shajara kwa wenye fikra huyu ni Msaliti mkubwa.

 

[Mohamed Said]

Nimesoma kuanzia akiwa na Warsha halafu magazetini kisha kitabu miaka 20 iliyopita, pale ambapo sikuelewa sijawahi kupewa jibu. Kukosolewa kwa Mohamed ni kwasababu hataki kujadiliana anataka kusikilizwa kama alivyozoea. Kwa bahati mbaya hapa hatuwezi kukaa kimya tunasikiliza tu na wakati mwingine akichochea chuki, akipandikiza vurugu na akisema uongo. Ni uongo uliotutuka kusema kuwa mabucha ya nguruwe yana uhusiano na umasikini wa Tabora au Mtwara. Kwa wajinga huu ni utafiti kwa wenye akili zao huu ni unafiki. Nasema hivi kwa uhakika kwasababu ameshindwa kuthibitisha au kunausha hayo. Nasema hivi kwasababu Watanzani ni mashahidi kuwa hili linapandikizwa tu kutoka kichwani kwa mtu na kufanywa mada, halina mahusiano hata kwa bahati mbaya.
Uongo dhahiri shahiri tunausoma mubashir, na kama unadhani namuonea nipe jibuMdondoaji;2843841]He does not have intellectual capacity to defend his own theisis. Do you mean grandiosity and pomp is part of intellect!
Nilidhani utalichukulia hili positive! Nakuonyesha kwanini nimesema kauli hiyo, na ukiniuliza nitairudia bila kufikiri. Mohamed kasema Tewa S Tewa alikuwa kiongozi wa EAMWS, na Nyerere alipoona ushawaishi wake akafanya njama za kumpeleka ubalozi China. Tewa akakubali nakwenda huko. Siku za mwisho za uhai wake akakukabidhi shajara na makabrasha yake. Sasa hivi unamuona shujaa wa EAMWS bila kujua kuwa alichokifanya kilikuwa usaliti wa kuweka tumbo mbele na si usilam wake. Sasa hapa ukiambiwa ufunge mdomo umetukanawa? Huoni kuwa ushujaa wake unaonekana kwako kwa shajara kwa wenye fikra huyu ni Msaliti mkubwa.

Nguruvi3,

Hapa nitakujibu moja tu "kufunga mdomo."
Labda hujui kutokana na makuzi yako na mengineyo.

Hilo ni tusi kwa sie watu wa pwani.
Usilitumie kwetu ingawa kwenu huenda likawa ni neno la kawaida.

Mohamed

 

[Nguruvi3]

Mohamed Said;2845006]Nguruvi3,Hapa nitakujibu moja tu "kufunga mdomo."Labda hujui kutokana na makuzi yako na mengineyo.Hilo ni tusi kwa sie watu wa pwani.Usilitumie kwetu ingawa kwenu huenda likawa ni neno la kawaida.Mohamed

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Jibu hoja na maswali

1. Diamond jubilee hakukuwepo na waislam ila BAKWATA, wakati wa kusalimiana waislam(wasiokwepo ukumbini) walikataa kushikana mikono na wakristo waliokuwepo ukumbini. !!

2. Vurugu za mabucha ya nguruwe zinatokana na umasikini wa Tabora, Mtwara, Kigoma na Kilwa. !

Kwa watafiti haya ni matusi, labda hujui kutokana na makuzi na mengineyo. Kwa wasomi usitumie maneno uisyoweza kuyatetea ingawa yanaweza kuwa ya kawaida huko mitaani.

 

[Mohamed Said]

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Jibu hoja na maswali

1. Diamond jubilee hakukuwepo na waislam ila BAKWATA, wakati wa kusalimiana waislam(wasiokwepo ukumbini) walikataa kushikana mikono na wakristo waliokuwepo ukumbini. !!

2. Vurugu za mabucha ya nguruwe zinatokana na umasikini wa Tabora, Mtwara, Kigoma na Kilwa. !

Kwa watafiti haya ni matusi, labda hujui kutokana na makuzi na mengineyo. Kwa wasomi usitumie maneno uisyoweza kuyatetea ingawa yanaweza kuwa ya kawaida huko mitaani.

Nguruvi3,

Mie si mtu wa nipe nikupe.

Tusigote hapo tusonge mbele.

Mohamed

 

[WildCard]

BAKWATA imetuepusha na vitu kama AL-QAEDA, AL-SHABAB ambavyo kwa UISLAMU wa Mohamed ndivyo vikundi "hasa" vya KIISLAMU na UISLAMU.

 

[WildCard]

WC,

Wewe si mzungumzaji wangu katika historia ya marehemu Bwana Abdu na Nyerere. Mimi Abdu Sykes ni baba yangu.
Tosheka na hilo tu.

Sina haja ya kubishana na wewe kuhusu historia ya mtu ambae mimi namfahamu vizuri lau kama nilikuwa mtoto mdogo.

Mohamed

PS: Hotuba hiyo ni moja tu ambayo kaeleza mbuzi na "Twining hatokuweza" na kufunga saum Bagamoyo nyumbani kwa Sheikh Mohamed Ramia.

Acha hasira. Nimekuuliza swali rahisi tu: Haya nayo ni sehemu ya kupigania uhuru wa nchi yetu? Yanastahili kukumbukwa sana? Huu sio USHIRIKINA? Kumbe Sykes ni baba yako! Haya Mzee. Ngoja nimtafute Makongoro au Rosemary nao waandike historia ya baba yao.

 

[Mohamed Said]

BAKWATA imetuepusha ni vitu kama AL-QAEDA, AL-SHABAB ambavyo kwa UISLAMU wa Mohamed ndivyo vikundi "hasa" vya KIISLAMU na UISLAMU.

Si vizuri kusema mradi umesema.

Mohamed

Soma Insha Allah hapa chini fikra zangu kuhusu ugaidi. Haya ni machache kutoka "paper" nilotoa Chuo Kikuu Cha Ibadan mwaka 2006. Waamerika walikerwa na msimamo huu na wakata kujua zaidi kuhusu mwandishi. Nikakamatwa miezi michache baadae Uwanja wa Ndege Dar wakati narudi safari kutoka nje:
In order to understand the Tanzanian political environment and to appreciate and comprehend the impact of ‘terrorism' as defined by the United States, first we need to point out that this phenomenon was and still is a problem which involves the government of the United States and to a limited extent its allies. The shock of 9/11 forced the United States to not only to include its allies in its war against terrorism but also other governments not forming part of the United States geo-political sphere like Tanzania. It is in this way that Tanzania and other African countries were included in the war against terrorism. Secondly, we have to look into the perception of associating Islam as an ideology which nourishes terrorism, the notion which seems to be gaining ground. Thirdly, we have to qualify the notion of ‘terror.' What kind of violence qualifies to be considered as an act of ‘terrorism' and therefore deserving condemnation? At the moment it seems it is only when civilians are targeted for attack that the act assumes the connotations of ‘terror.' This is in contrast where modern weaponry is used by nation states in annihilation of a people. Examples of the latter are abound. The sight of a suicide bomber in television screens is just as familiar as the sight of the Apache helicopters supported by heavy fortified tanks bombing, killing and maiming innocent civilians, be it in Afghanistan, Gaza or Iraq. Now where do we draw the line between these two scenarios?

The Bombing of the US Embassies in East Africa

‘Chickens Coming Home to Roost'​

Discriminate killing of innocent people or ‘terrorism' as the analogy is known today has never been a problem to Africa save the terror unleashed on its people by the colonising powers, notorious among them were the Portuguese in Mozambique and Guinea Bissau, the French in Algeria during the war of liberation, Boers in South Africa, and the British in Kenya during the Mau Mau. Power is addictive to terror. Acts of terror were not a monopoly of the colonial governments only. Indigenous African governments have their own share. In East Africa there have been summary executions in Zanzibar under Abeid Amani Karume. While under Jomo Kenyatta and Daniel Arap Moi Kenya has experienced torture and executions, Uganda experienced mass executions during the reign of Idi Amin Dada. In other words Africans have experienced terror even before the word ‘terror' became fashionable. There is no need to mention the 1994 Rwandan genocide. All this is enough proof that Africa has tasted terror from the colonising authorities as well as terror from its own indigenous governments.The United States is more concerned with international terrorism while Africa is obsessed with domestic terrorism. The question which the United States should reflect upon is that why is it that the United States is considered a legitimate target for attack by terrorists? In the answer probably lies the key to solving the problem. It is a pity that terrorism as a field of inquiry is yet to be taken up by actual victims of terrorism. The inquiry has been monopolised by scholars from societies which at most have suffered one or two bomb attacks. This erodes the realities of the subject as would be perceived by the actual victims of terrorism whose lives have seen nothing but sufferings. Selective sampling will always as a rule provide wrong premise. Today the world knows what took place in Auschwitz from the victims who went through the extermination camps during the Holocaust.[1] We are yet to get first hand experience of terrorism from those who had lived and experienced it in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Nicaragua etc. documented with the same intensity as the world had documented the holocaust. Why do Muslims' eyes fill with tears when they watch on TV fighter bombers of the United States Army raining bombs on Iraq and Afghanistan; or Israel American made fighter bombers raining bombs on refugee camps in Gaza. Why do some Muslims rejoice sometimes with chants of ‘Takbir Allahu Akbar' when a suicide bomber strikes? Why some Muslims do not show remorse when a suicide bomber kills? Why is it that we now have ‘refuseniks' - soldiers in the Israel Defence Force (IDF) who refuse to kill for unjustified cause? This belief is also encroaching into the United States forces in Iraq. Why a suicide bomber is romanticised in certain parts of the world and is rejoiced as a hero while an American soldier is seen as a villain? The United States should reflect on these sentiments. Reasons for the reign of terror in Kenya, Uganda and Zanzibar, Rwanda and other places are known. The United States with its array of social scientists and research centres should be able to come up with conclusive findings on the root cause of terrorism and why America has become a terrorist target. Post-independence Kenya has experienced bomb attacks when in 1975 a bus stand was bombed in Nairobi followed by another bomb attack on Norfolk Hotel in 1980.[2]Mtwara a small town in southern Tanzania was bombed several times by Portuguese war planes during the struggle for liberation of Mozambique. Neither Kenya nor Tanzania internationalised the bombing of its territory because both countries knew why they were under attack. Tanzania was being attacked by the Portuguese with the cognisance of the United States because it was the springboard for guerrillas fighting White supremacy and foreign domination in Mozambique, Angola Namibia and South Africa. Is it really difficult for the United States to know why it is now being targeted? It is difficult to understand what purpose is saved for a suicide bomber to walk into a hotel and kill men, women and children gathered to celebrate a Muslim wedding. But it is not very difficult to see the reason behind the bombing of the Trade Centre in New York or the recent bombing of the London Underground. That these attacks happened at the time they did it is an obvious fact that the two attacks were to a large extent motivated by vengeance. The United States and Britain have to be made to mourn as the people of Afghanistan and Iraq are mourning and to grieve for the lost of their loved ones as other victims of their irresponsible bombings are grieving. Indeed, the so-called great powers have to be made to taste the pain of loosing an entire family and the horrible fear of death. It does not matter to the terrorists if the victims are innocent or guilty - the driving force is revenge. In blind fury for revenge, a terrorist takes his war to any country he can find his enemy -be it in Africa, Asia, Europe or Latin America. It is the feeling of the terrorist that through terror justice can eventually be attained. Out of its own free will Tanzania after the bombing of the United States Embassy in Dar es Salaam in 1998 and after 9/11 found itself being dragged into a war of attrition which it had no justified cause to get involved. Despite of the Cold War politics of the post WW II era Tanzania had never considered the United States as an adversary much as it was supporting oppressive regimes and conducting illegal acts of aggression in Vietnam, Laos Cambodia, Nicaragua and in many other places. Nowhere was this policy abhorrent than in South Africa under apartheid and in Palestine where Israel is forcefully with the full support of the United States was occupying Muslim land, killing and maiming innocent children with lethal weapons supplied by the United States. Through its policies in the Middle East and elsewhere the United States was creating and is still creating more enemies, but it does not care because the primary objective of the United States is to guard its national interest, other matters are secondary. And to back up its national interest the United States has in possession a formidable war machine which no country on earth can defeat in conventional warfare. Realising that they could not match the mighty of the United States in conventional warfare, its enemies have taken their war of revenge from their local battlefields to the American civilian population under its own peculiar strategy unprecedented in the history of combat. Terrorists in bombing targets inside the United States and elsewhere had widened the theatre of conflict taking the war into American territory and pursued Americans and those in support of American policies wherever in the world they could be found. Whereas the people in Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam never pursued the United States outside their own national boundaries for revenge; this new foe opened a war front wherever he could strike against his target. The targets are chosen randomly with no established pattern. The bomb attack of Trade Centre in New York (1993), Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia (1996) and that of the United States Embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam (1998) was a manifestation of that struggle. On the 9[SUP]th[/SUP]of September 2001 hijacked planes hit the Twin Towers in New York and the Pentagon in Washington. The war was taken inside American territory. Overtime the hunter became the hunted. Whereas the United States had vast experience in warfare it had not experienced anything close to the tragedy of 9/11. The Kamikaze attacks by the Japanese during WWII in the Pacific were an enemy the United States could see and even predict hence counter attack in the war zone. But the suicide bomber was not usually operating in a war zone or in a conflict theatre; he was unpredictable as he was determined. Whereas ‘Desert Storm' reports in the electronic media showing‘high precision bombings' of Iraq by the United States forces and its allies became a sort of entertainment on TV screens, the 9/11 attack on the Twin Towers was a horror movie alien to Americans. For the first time in history the American public realised that they too like the people of Afghanistan, Iraq and Palestine were also vulnerable to enemy bomb attacks although from a different setting. The seemingly senseless deaths of Americans affected public morale and American psychology. The American macho image was dented beyond imagination. Americans throughout history are not used to see their blood being shed particularly by a people they consider from their estimation as ‘backward,' ‘inferior' or ‘uncivilised' – the master and slave relationship mentality of the slave owner in the plantation. Violence is not alien to Americans. Its own history of the Founding Fathers was built on violence. Slavery in the south was built and abolished through violence. The Civil Rights movement of 1960s was characterised by violence on blacks. Since the American Civil War Americans had never experienced war being fought in their own soil. The Pentagon the symbol of American military mighty and prestige, had already been turned into a target of terrorists attack, did not yet have the manual for counter-insurgency to this new war. Terrorism was a war game, which the United States could not duplicate for American kids to enjoy in their play stations or computers while relaxing in the safety of their comfortable living rooms.

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[1] See‘The Last Days of Auschwitz 50 Years Later: Untold Stories From the Death Camp,' Newsweek,January 16, 1995.
[2]Norfolk Hotel was bombed on New Year's Eve 1980. 15 people were killed, including 2 Americans, 85 were injured, and half the hotel was destroyed. The owners are members of a Kenyan Jewish family. It seemed the attack was motivated by revenge against Kenya by the Palestinians for aiding the Israeli commando team that rescued hostages hijacked by Palestinians to Entebbe airport in Uganda in July 1976.

 

[Mohamed Said]

Acha hasira. Nimekuuliza swali rahisi tu: Haya nayo ni sehemu ya kupigania wa nchi yetu? Yanastahili kukumbukwa sana? Huu sio USHIRIKINA? Kumbe Sykes ni baba yako! Haya Mzee. Ngoja nimtafute Makongoro au Rosemary nao waandike historia ya baba yao.

WC,

Hapana sijakasirika.
Ikiwa unapenda tufanye mnakasha katike hicho unachoita ushirikika tunaweza.

Unajua harakati za uhuru huwezi kuzitenganisha na mila na desturi za watu wa pwani maana hiyo TANU yenyewe kama ilivyokuwa ilikuwa ni ya Waislam na kwa kawaida Waislam kama wakiwa na jambo wakaomba dua ikiwa patachinjwa mnyama inakuwa vizuri zaidi.

Katika utafiti wangu nimekusanya mengi katika hayo.

Ipo dua nyingine kubwa sana alosomewa Nyerere na Sheikh Yusuf Badi, Lindi. Waliohudhuria dua hiyo ni pamoja na Bi Sharifa Bint Mzee, Suleiman Masoud Mnonji, Salum Mpunga, Yusuf Chembera na Waislam wengine.

Katika dua hii kondoo alichinjwa kama sadaka.

Dua hii ilianza katika ile theluthi ya mwisho ya usiku na ilikwenda hadi kabla ya alfajir.
Qur'an ikisomwa na nyuradi nyingine.

Bahati mbaya sana WC umejaa utoto na wakati mwingine maswali yako yanakuwa na kejeli ndiyo maana huamua kutokujibu maana hatuwezi kushindana kukomoana iwe nipe nikupe hii ni kwa wahuni.

Sisi tunajadili kwa kuheshimiana.

Mie ni mtu mzima na nimeandika sana kuhusu historia hii.
Jitulize utajifunza mengi kwangu na si lazima uniamini.

We uyajue haya tu katika historia ya uhuru wa Tanganyika utatoka hapa ukumbini umeerevuka.
Hata mie nimejifunza mengi sana kutoka kwenu.

Hivi nina "notes" Insha Allah nataka niandike kitabu.

Mohamed

PS: Halafu ukiandika herufi KUBWA tupu kiuandishi maana yake unapiga kelele.

 

[WildCard]

WC,

Hapana sijakasirika.
Ikiwa unapenda tufanye mnakasha katike hicho unachoita ushirikika tunaweza.

Unajua harakati za uhuru huwezi kuzitenganisha na mila na desturi za watu wa pwani maana hiyo TANU yenyewe kama ilivyokuwa ilikuwa ni ya Waislam na kwa kawaida Waislam kama wakiwa na jambo wakaomba dua ikiwa patachinjwa mnyama inakuwa vizuri zaidi.

Katika utafiti wangu nimekusanya mengi katika hayo.

Ipo dua nyingine kubwa sana alosomewa Nyerere na Sheikh Yusuf Badi, Lindi. Waliohudhuria dua hiyo ni pamoja na Bi Sharifa Bint Mzee, Suleiman Masoud Mnonji, Salum Mpunga, Yusuf Chembera na Waislam wengine.

Katika dua hii kondoo alichinjwa kama sadaka.

Dua hii ilianza katika ile theluthi ya mwisho ya usiku na ilikwenda hadi kabla ya alfajir.
Qur'an ikisomwa na nyuradi nyingine.

Bahati mbaya sana WC umejaa utoto na wakati mwingine maswali yako yanakuwa na kejeli ndiyo maana huamua kutokujibu maana hatuwezi kushindana kukomoana iwe nipe nikupe hii ni kwa wahuni.

Sisi tunajadili kwa kuheshimiana.

Mie ni mtu mzima na nimeandika sana kuhusu historia hii.
Jitulize utajifunza mengi kwangu na si lazima uniamini.

We uyajue haya tu katika historia ya uhuru wa Tanganyika utatoka hapa ukumbini umeerevuka.
Hata mie nimejifunza mengi sana kutoka kwenu.

Hivi nina "notes" Insha Allah nataka niandike kitabu.

Mohamed

PS: Halafu ukiandika herufi KUBWA tupu kiuandishi maana yake unapiga kelele.

TANU ilikuwa ya WAISLAMU? Rais wa kwanza wa TANU alikuwa Mwalimu. TANU ingekuwa ya WAISLAMU kama ingebaki mitaa ya wazee wako tu. Na Mwalimu asingejiunga nayo! DINI isikutese kiasi hiki Mohamed. Una akili na uwezo mkubwa mno.

 

[Mohamed Said]

TANU ilikuwa ya WAISLAMU? Rais wa kwanza wa TANU alikuwa Mwalimu. TANU ingekuwa ya WAISLAMU kama ingebaki mitaa ya wazee wako tu. Na Mwalimu asingejiunga nayo! DINI isikutese kiasi hiki Mohamed. Una akili na uwezo mkubwa mno.

WC,

Ninachosema nimekiandikia kitabu kizima na nimeeleza ushawishi wa Waislam katika TANU.
Ni uoga tu unawatisha baadhi ya watu kuukubali ukweli huu.

Nyerere alikuwa peke yake pale New Street.

Ni hili ndilo lililofanya kitabu hiki kipate umaarufu.

Pitia historia ya TANU katika mikoa ambayo TANU ilikuwa na nguvu kama Tabora, Dodoma, Lindi, Tanga nk. hili utaliona.

Lakini hili lisitushughulishe sana kwa sasa hasa kwa kuwa kitabu kipo hapana haja ya kubishana sana.

Tuendelee na mengine.

Mohamed

 

[Topical]

WC,

Ninachosema nimekiandikia kitabu kizima na nimeeleza ushawishi wa Waislam katika TANU.
Ni uoga tu unawatisha baadhi ya watu kuukubali ukweli huu.

Nyerere alikuwa peke yake pale New Street.

Ni hili ndilo lililofanya kitabu hiki kipate umaarufu.

Pitia historia ya TANU katika mikoa ambayo TANU ilikuwa na nguvu kama Tabora, Dodoma, Lindi, Tanga nk. hili utaliona.

Lakini hili lisitushughulishe sana kwa sasa hasa kwa kuwa kitabu kipo hapana haja ya kubishana sana.

Tuendelee na mengine.

Mohamed

Hili la nyerere kuwa peke yake ni msumari mkubwa kwa wenzetu..lakini ndio ukweli asante

 

[JokaKuu]

Sheikh Mohamed Said,

..nilisoma ktk gazeti la raia mwema kuhusu kisa cha watu fulani kutaka kumvisha Mwalimu Nyerere ngozi mbichi ya mbuzi.

..inasemekana Mwalimu aligomea suala hilo akisisitiza kuhusu imani yake.

..je, unakifahamu kisa hiki? je, unawafahamu wahusika waliojaribu kumvika Mwalimu ngozi mbichi ya mbuzi?

..pia umesema unakifahamu kisa cha Mwalimu kuitwa na wazee nyumbani kwa Jumbe Tambaza.

..Mwalimu alikielezea kisa kile, sasa je kilichotokea pale kwa Jumbe Tambaza ni tambiko la Kiswahili, au dua ya Kiislamu, or both?

 

[Mohamed Said]

Sheikh Mohamed Said,

..nilisoma ktk gazeti la raia mwema kuhusu kisa cha watu fulani kutaka kumvisha Mwalimu Nyerere ngozi mbichi ya mbuzi.

..inasemekana Mwalimu aligomea suala hilo akisisitiza kuhusu imani yake.

..je, unakifahamu kisa hiki? je, unawafahamu wahusika waliojaribu kumvika Mwalimu ngozi mbichi ya mbuzi?

..pia umesema unakifahamu kisa cha Mwalimu kuitwa na wazee nyumbani kwa Jumbe Tambaza.

..Mwalimu alikielezea kisa kile, sasa je kilichotokea pale kwa Jumbe Tambaza ni tambiko la Kiswahili, au dua ya Kiislamu, or both?

JK,

Kisa cha ngozi ya mbuzi sikifahamu.

Kisa cha Jumbe Tambaza na mimi nimekisikia kama kilivyoelezwa na Nyerere mwenyewe.

Mohamed

 

[Gwalihenzi]

Maswali yenu nafikiri ni kizushi si kitaalam..jaribuni kuuliza maswali ya maana..

Huu ni utupu wa fikra.

 

[Monstgala]

Hili la nyerere kuwa peke yake ni msumari mkubwa kwa wenzetu..lakini ndio ukweli asante

Msumari mkubwa ni yeye kuwa kiongozi wao, mtu mmoja mwenye upeo zaidi ya elfu, huo ndo msumari haswaaa ndo maana malalamiko hayeshi.

 

[Monstgala]

WC,

Ninachosema nimekiandikia kitabu kizima na nimeeleza ushawishi wa Waislam katika TANU.
Ni uoga tu unawatisha baadhi ya watu kuukubali ukweli huu.

Nyerere alikuwa peke yake pale New Street.

Ni hili ndilo lililofanya kitabu hiki kipate umaarufu.

Pitia historia ya TANU katika mikoa ambayo TANU ilikuwa na nguvu kama Tabora, Dodoma, Lindi, Tanga nk. hili utaliona.

Lakini hili lisitushughulishe sana kwa sasa hasa kwa kuwa kitabu kipo hapana haja ya kubishana sana.

Tuendelee na mengine.

Mohamed

Ukiwa mdini sana hakika unakuwa "kiumbe" mwingine na si binadamu tena. Unaposema "Nyerere alikuwa peke yake" kulikuwa hamna binadamu wengine hapo? Au rafikize waislamu walikuwa viumbe tofauti? Nia yenu ni kuwagawa watanzania kwa dini zao lakini mnasahau kazi kubwa ya kuwaunganisha aliyofanya Nyerere.

 

[Topical]

Msumari mkubwa ni yeye kuwa kiongozi wao, mtu mmoja mwenye upeo zaidi ya elfu, huo ndo msumari haswaaa ndo maana malalamiko hayeshi.

Usaliti wake ndio tatizo, watetezi wake historia inawasuta..

 

[Monstgala]

Usaliti wake ndio tatizo, watetezi wake historia inawasuta..

"Historia" iliyoandikwa kwa malengo maalum haiwezi kumsuta mtu, zaidi sana mnasutwa ninyi wachochezi kwa kushindwa kujibu maswali ya msingi.

 

[Mohamed Said]

"Historia" iliyoandikwa kwa malengo maalum haiwezi kumsuta mtu, zaidi sana mnasutwa ninyi wachochezi kwa kushindwa kujibu maswali ya msingi.

Mgalanjuka,

Nami kuna wakati hunipitikia fikra kusema hivi historia ya uhuru wa Tanganyika ingelikuwaje kama nisingeliandika kitabu kile...

Mohamed

 

[Monstgala]

Mgalanjuka,

Nami kuna wakati hunipitikia fikra kusema hivi historia ya uhuru wa Tanganyika ingelikuwaje kama nisingeliandika kitabu kile...

Mohamed

Ni kweli fikra tofauti huja vichwani mimi pia hufikiria laiti hiyo ndio ingekuwa historia ya uhuru wa Tanganyika...