imhotep
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Waliotoka Ulaya walifukuzwa na Warumi na kuzagaa Ulaya na sasa wamerejea kwao na ushahidi uko kwenye vitabu vyote.
Marekani na Israel zapendekeza Wapalestina watakaohamishwa kutoka gaza waende kuishi somalia, Sudan na somaliland, mawasiliano yanaendelea kufanywa
Marekani na Israel zapendekeza Wapalestina watakaohamishwa kutoka gaza waende kuishi somalia, Sudan na somaliland, mawasiliano yanaendelea kufanywa
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Faana
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Wataiharibu East Africa
shamariwa chool
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Uzuri wote wanapanda punda kama usafir kama zama dam.patawafaa sana sudan au somalia kwanza naupepo wa bahari upo kama pale gaza
Congo hakuna binadamu
RUSTEM PASHA
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Vitabu vipi hivyo?. Na alieviandika ni nani?.
imhotep
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Kama Quruani imeandikwa na Waarabu.
Na Wapalestuna walitokea wapi adi wafukuzwe kwenye Ardhi ile??
WAPALESTINA Watabaki kwenye Ardhi yao akuna mtu yoyote mwenye nguvu za kuwatoa pale iyo Israel na Tramp wanataka tu kujifuraisha Baada ya kushindwa Vita ya Gaza..!!!!
ISRAEL imechafuka sana Dunian aijawai tokea!!!!!
ukija upande wa nguvu kwasasa Wameishiwa IRAN ndio mwiba mwenye uwezo wakuamua lini Taifa la ISRAEL life.
. kila mwenye Akili kaona nguvu za IRAN alipojipigia iyo Israel mala 2. Ushaid upo!!!
Kubwa zaid IRAN kwasasa ndio mwenye nguvu zaid Dunian akitaka kukupiga uwezi zuiya!!!!! Katuonesha kwa macho yetu..
ISRAEL imechafuka sana Dunian aijawai tokea!!!!!
ukija upande wa nguvu kwasasa Wameishiwa IRAN ndio mwiba mwenye uwezo wakuamua lini Taifa la ISRAEL life.
. kila mwenye Akili kaona nguvu za IRAN alipojipigia iyo Israel mala 2. Ushaid upo!!!
Kubwa zaid IRAN kwasasa ndio mwenye nguvu zaid Dunian akitaka kukupiga uwezi zuiya!!!!! Katuonesha kwa macho yetu..
RUSTEM PASHA
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Kwahio wewe unaamini vilivyoandikwa kwenye Quruan?
The redemeer
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Bora wawapeleke Somalia wakaungane na alshabab
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Uarabuni hapajaaa
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Misri,libya, Tunisia zilikuwa za waafrika weusi ujio wa waarabu wakawaua waafrika weusi Hapo ni kutaka kuongeza shida ingine wapelekwe uarabuni kwa ndugu zao kule wanaongea lugha moja.
Khanji kapoor
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Hao wakiambiwa kuhamia ulaya ni dkk sifuri ila somalia/sudan hawatakubali usweken kule🤣
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Kwa nini waisrael wasihame wakarudi walipotoka?
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Mimi nikiwa genius wenu hapa JF ninaye weza kuona mbali nasema wapalestina wataondolewa wote Gaza hata baki hata sisimizi na nchi watakayo pelekwa ni somalia.
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Hili deal kagame hajaliona au?
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Horn of
ArmhhWadau hamjamboni nyote
Taarifa mpya kabisa juhudi zaendelea kutekeleza mpango wa Marekani kuhamisha Wapalestina kutoka gaza
Taarifa kamili hapo chini kwa kimombo:
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Israel and US said in contact with Sudan, Somalia about resettling Gazans
Officials say approaches also made to breakaway region of Somaliland; Sudanese source says proposal rejected, officials from other two say unaware of issue being broached
By AP and ToI StaffToday, 11:09 am
People gather to collect water in Khartoum, Sudan, May 28, 2023. (Marwan Ali/AP)
The US and Israel have reached out to officials of three East African governments to discuss using their territories as potential destinations for resettling Palestinians uprooted from the Gaza Strip under US President Donald Trump’s proposed postwar plan, American and Israeli officials said.
The contacts with Sudan, Somalia and the breakaway Somali region known as Somaliland reflect the determination by the US and Israel to press ahead with a plan that has been widely condemned but has also jolted new energy into planning for Gaza’s future.
Officials from Sudan said they had rejected overtures from the US, while officials from Somalia and Somaliland told The Associated Press that they were not aware of any contacts.
Because all three places are poor, and in some cases wracked by violence, the proposal also casts doubt on Trump’s stated goal of resettling Gaza’s Palestinians in a “beautiful area” where they would enjoy a higher standard of living than in the Strip.
Trump proposed the plan after a US, Egyptian, and Qatari-mediated ceasefire halted 15 months of war in the Gaza Strip that began on October 7, 2023, when the Palestinian terror group Hamas led 5,000 attackers to invade southern Israel, killing 1,200 people and abducting hundreds, mostly civilians.
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The war caused widespread devastation to Gaza, raising the need for a comprehensive rehabilitation plan that Israel has demanded include a new administration to replace Hamas’s rule. In the meantime, the complex three-phase ceasefire, which included the release of hostages, has stalled after its first stage amid mutual accusations of violations by Israel and Hamas, though so far fighting has not resumed.
Under Trump’s plan, Gaza’s more than 2 million people would be permanently sent elsewhere. He has proposed that the US would take ownership of the territory, oversee a lengthy cleanup process and develop it as a real estate project.
A tent camp for displaced Palestinians is set up amid destroyed buildings in the west of Al-Shati camp, west of Gaza City, on Monday, March 3, 2025. (AP/Jehad Alshrafi)
The idea of a mass transfer of Palestinians was once considered a fantasy of Israel’s ultranationalist fringe. But since Trump presented the idea at a White House meeting last month, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has hailed it as a “bold vision.”
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His allies, including Defense Minister Israel Katz, have touted the formation of a government-backed body to encourage and facilitate voluntary migration out of the Strip.
Palestinians in Gaza have rejected Trump’s proposal and dismissed Israeli claims that the departures would be voluntary. Arab nations have expressed vehement opposition and offered an alternative reconstruction plan that would leave the Palestinians in place.
Rights groups have said forcing or pressuring the Palestinians to leave could be a potential war crime. On Wednesday, the president appeared to back off the plan somewhat, saying “Nobody is expelling any Palestinians from Gaza,” in answer to a question during an Oval Office meeting with Irish Prime Minister Micheál Martin.
Earlier, the White House had said that Trump “stands by his vision.”
Speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss a secret diplomatic initiative, US and Israeli officials confirmed the contacts with Somalia and Somaliland, while the Americans confirmed Sudan as well. They said it was unclear how much progress the efforts made or at what level the discussions took place.
Separate outreach from the US and Israel to the three potential destinations began last month, days after Trump floated the Gaza plan alongside Netanyahu, according to the US officials, who said that Israel was taking the lead in the discussions.
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Israel and the US have a variety of incentives — financial, diplomatic and security — to offer these potential partners. It is a formula that Trump used five years ago when he brokered the Abraham Accords — a series of mutually beneficial diplomatic accords between Israel and four Arab countries.
The White House declined to comment on the outreach efforts.
Visions of “Trump Gaza” are seen in a 30-second, AI-generated video posted by US President Donald Trump to his Truth Social platform on February 26, 2025. (Screen captures via Truth Social, used in accordance with Clause 27a of the Copyright Law)
The offices of Netanyahu and Strategic Affairs Minister Ron Dermer, a Netanyahu confidant who has been leading Israel’s postwar planning, also had no comment.
Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, a longtime advocate of what he calls “voluntary” emigration of Palestinians, said this week that Israel is working to identify countries to take in Palestinians.
He also said Israel is preparing a “very large emigration department” within its Defense Ministry.
Here is a closer look at the places the officials say have been approached.
Sudan
The North African country was among the four Abraham Accord nations that agreed to normalize diplomatic relations with Israel in 2020.
As part of the deal, the US removed Sudan from its list of state supporters of terrorism, a move that gave the country access to international loans and global legitimacy. But relations with Israel never took off as Sudan plunged into civil war between government forces and the RSF paramilitary group.
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The conflict has been marked by atrocities, including ethnically motivated killing and rape, according to the UN and rights groups. The International Criminal Court is investigating alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity, and then-US president Joe Biden’s administration in January said the RSF and its proxies were committing genocide.
Children sit and play on the remains of a tank, at the river port in Renk, South Sudan on May 17, 2023. (Sam Mednick/AP)
The US and Israel would be hard-pressed to persuade Palestinians to leave Gaza, particularly to such a troubled country. But they could offer incentives to the Khartoum government, including debt relief, weapons, technology and diplomatic support.
Two Sudanese officials, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive diplomatic matter, confirmed that the Trump administration has approached the military-led government about accepting Palestinians.
One of them said the contacts began even before Trump’s inauguration with offers of military assistance against the RSF, assistance with postwar reconstruction and other incentives.
Both officials said the Sudanese government rejected the idea.
“This suggestion was immediately rebuffed,” said one official. “No one opened this matter again.”
Military chief Gen. Abdel-Fattah Burhan told an Arab leaders’ summit last week in Cairo that his country “categorically rejects” any plan that aims to transfer “the brotherly Palestinians from their land under whatever justification or name.”
Somaliland
Somaliland, a territory of over 3 million people in the Horn of Africa, seceded from Somalia over 30 years ago, but it is not internationally recognized as an independent state. Somalia considers Somaliland part of its territory.
Somaliland’s new president, Abdirahman Mohamed Abdullahi, has made international recognition a priority.
A woman and child relax next to a mural of Somaliland’s flag, in Hargeisa, Somaliland, a semi-autonomous breakaway region of Somalia, on February 9, 2022. (Brian Inganga/AP)
An American official involved in the efforts confirmed that the US was “having a quiet conversation with Somaliland about a range of areas where they can be helpful to the US in exchange for recognition.”
The possibility of US recognition could provide an incentive for Abdullahi to back away from the territory’s solidarity with the Palestinians.
The United Arab Emirates, another Abraham Accord country that has developed strong ties with Israel, once had a military base in Somaliland and maintains commercial interests there, including a port. The territory’s strategic location, in the Gulf of Aden waterway near Yemen, home to the Houthi rebel group, could also make it a valuable ally.
Over the years, Somaliland has been lauded for its relatively stable political environment, contrasting sharply with Somalia’s ongoing struggles amid deadly attacks by al-Qaeda-linked extremist group al-Shabab. Since 1991, Somaliland has maintained its own government, currency and security structures. Still, it has one of the lowest income levels in the world.
An official in Somaliland, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media, said his government has not been approached and is not in talks about taking in Palestinians.
Somalia
Somalia has been a vocal supporter of the Palestinians, often hosting peaceful protests on its streets in support of them. The country joined the recent Arab summit that rejected Trump’s plan and seems like an unlikely destination for Palestinians, even if they did agree to move.
Frame grab from video shoot March 12, 2025, showing the aftermath of a car bomb that exploded the day before at a hotel in the central Somali city of Beledweyne, kicking off an hours-long militant attack that killed an unknown number of people. (AP Photo from video)
Sambu Chepkorir, a lawyer and conflict researcher in Nairobi, Kenya, said it is difficult to understand why Somalia would want to host Palestinians given the country’s strong support for Palestinian self-rule.
“The realignments keep changing, and so maybe there is a hidden agenda in why Somalia,” Chepkorir said.
A Somali official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the media, said the country had not been approached about taking in Palestinians from Gaza and there had been no discussions about it.
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Sir John Roberts
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Somalia , Somaliland na Sudan wamekataa.
