Mbowe ahusishwa na UFISADI wa kuimaliza NSSF

Mbowe ahusishwa na UFISADI wa kuimaliza NSSF

GAME THEORY said:


na zaidi ya yote hayo je tutaruhusiwa kujadili MBOWE na uhusiano wake na NSSF?

ama thread itahimishiwa kwenye hoja nzito na vibweka vya wakubwa
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Kuna thread zaidi ya kumi hapa zinazomjadili Mbowe na hii issue ya NSSF. Ukiscroll chini kidogo kwenye jukwaa la siasa utakuta kuna nyingine inaendelea hapa.
 
mwafrika wa kike said:
Hii story bado mbichi kabisa. Bado nasisitiza msimamo wangu wa kumchunguza Mkullo na wadosi wa NSSF katika hii story ya deni la Mbowe. Inabidi pia Mbowe aiombe mahakama impe ruhusa kuzungumzia hili swala nje ya mahakama ili kupambana na mbinu chafu za mwizi na mkoloni Rostam Azizi anayetumia magazeti yake kupindisha habari.

Hili saga ndio limeanza tu kwani hata JK mwenyewe itabidi aulizwe kuwa anajua nini kuhusu kuhusika kwa mapesa ya NSSF wakati ambao Mkullo alikuwa mdosi huko.

Hii story ya Mbowe na NSSF is the best connection so far ya JK na Mkullo.... na bado nasema kama nilivyosema mwanzo! Keep it coming .....
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Mwafrika wa Kike,

Unamlaumu Rostam kwa hili la Mbowe? Nafikiri kwa hapo USA ulikuwa katika wale waliokuwa wanawalaumu Republican kwa scandal ya Clinton na Monika.

Ukiwa mwanasiasa na ukajikuta kwenye jambo lolote ambalo ni makosa yako, huna haki ya kumlaumu mtu.

Ni sawa na mafisadi wanapoilaumu JF. Sisi ni kioo tu, tunasaidia kuwaonyesha walivyochafuka. Sio sisi tuliowafanya wageuke kuwa hogs na kugalagala kwenye matope.

Mbowe hatakiwi kumlaumu mtu juu ya hili. Alipe deni la walala hoi na kuendelea na siasa zake.
 
Watu wengine wanachekesha kweli. Na ndiyo maana hata hayo mashirika wanayoyaongoza yanalalamikiwa kila siku

Sasa hapo anakanusha nini na kusahihisha nini?
 
What Kidula is saying makes sense, walipokuwa wakitoa huu mkopo wa 15 millions in 1990 walitegemea only 31% on top of that amount kama huo mkopo ungelipwa in 5 years time, wangeishia kulipwa milion 19.65 tu kama hili deni lingelipwa by end of 1996. So far wameshalipwa more than 60 millions na its very likely malipo yataendelea,how can anyone say wamepoteza mabilioni? what a business!Kinachogomba hapa ni integrity ya muheshiwa tu but otherwise its a good deal for NSSF.
 
Mtanzania said:
Mwafrika wa Kike,

Unamlaumu Rostam kwa hili la Mbowe? Nafikiri kwa hapo USA ulikuwa katika wale waliokuwa wanawalaumu Republican kwa scandal ya Clinton na Monika.

Ukiwa mwanasiasa na ukajikuta kwenye jambo lolote ambalo ni makosa yako, huna haki ya kumlaumu mtu.

Ni sawa na mafisadi wanapoilaumu JF. Sisi ni kioo tu, tunasaidia kuwaonyesha walivyochafuka. Sio sisi tuliowafanya wageuke kuwa hogs na kugalagala kwenye matope.

Mbowe hatakiwi kumlaumu mtu juu ya hili. Alipe deni la walala hoi na kuendelea na siasa zake.
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kwi kwi kwi

Mtanzania, wewe unajua kabisa kuwa nikipata nafasi ya kumtwanga Rostam (hasa magazeti yake ya udaku) ninafanya bila wasiwasi wala kuchelewa.

Mahakama itaamua tu kuwa Mbowe anadaiwa kiasi gani (alikopa mill 15 na ameshalipa zaidi ya mil 60 - kulingana na story hii) so for now mimi nadeal na mwizi na mkoloni Rostam Azizi wakati nikisubiria hatima ya kesi ya mbowe.

au wewe unaonaje
 
Naomba hii thread irudishwe kule SIASA kwani kuna copy cat threads 4 zinazungumzia same thing

tunahitaji utaratibu
 
Nafikiri ni wakati baadhi ya Members kuacha kukurupuka katika maandishi yao. Unavuliwa nguo hivi hivi wakati huonekani na jina lako la bandia.
 
GAME THEORY said:

na zaidi ya yote hayo je tutaruhusiwa kujadili MBOWE na uhusiano wake na NSSF?

ama thread itahimishiwa kwenye hoja nzito na vibweka vya wakubwa
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heheee, binafsi ningependa kuomba ruhusa kwa mods tuweze kuijadili hapa kwenye siasa, maana najua kutawaka moto !Sasa sikia washaanza kumlink mtu fulani, jua kwamba hiyo ni chain usishangae hata akina slaa wakiwemo !
 
GAME THEORY said:
ADMIN

Tunaomba u merge his thread na hii hapa:

MBOWE AHUSISHWA NA UFISADI NSSF( ya kwanza ilikuwa ni hii


http://www.jamboforums.com/showthread.php?t=10852
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hawa watu naweza kusema wana mtindio wa ubongo, mara ya kwanza thread yoyote iliyohusishwa na mbowe basi ilihamishwa, lakini BAHATI NZURI NI KWAMBA KUNA LINKS ZA WATU NA WATU KUANZIA MBOWE NA WENGINE AMBAO HAWAJATAJWA SASA THERES GOOD NEWS KWAMBA KIBANDA KITAWAKA MOTO NA WATAJULIKANA !
 
Bubu ataka kusema said:
NSSF refutes Mbowe loan loss reports
By Zephania Ubwani, Arusha
THE CITIZEN

The National Social Security Fund has denied that it has lost billions of shillings through a loan extended to Mbowe Hotels Limited 18 years ago.

It confirmed, however, that it has a case in court against the firm owned by a top Opposition leader over unsettled debts. Mr Yacoub Kidula, the fund's director of planning, investments and projects told journalists that the row has been unnecessarily politicized. "This matter is in court.

Why don't we wait for the outcome of the case?" he asked, adding that it was not true NSSF had lost lots of money because of the loan. NSSF, then known as the National Provident Fund (NPF), extended a loan of Sh15 million to Mbowe Hotels Limited in 1990 for the expansion of its hotel in Dar es Salaam.

The loan was to be repayed over six years but that had not been the case until now, he said. Mr Kidula was reacting to media reports last week that Mbowe Hotels owed NSSF Sh1.2 billion.

"Reports that NSSF was bankrupt because of the loan are not true. What I know is that our case against Mbowe Hotels is still in court," he reiterated. Emphasising that the hotels firm does not owe NSSF Sh1.2 billion, he said the amount could be just a half of that figure or less, declining to specify the actual amount owed.

Legal experts at the fund headquarters were working on the matter which has been in court since 1996, he said.

A section of the media reported last week that NSSF was owed Sh1.2 billion by Mbowe Hotels Limited of Dar es Salaam in unpaid loans. The firm belongs to Mr Freeman Mbowe, the national chairman of Chadema, who contested the presidency in the 2005 General Election.

Other directors of the firm are Manase A.Mbowe and Dr Lilian Mtei Mbowe. The loan was to be used for refurbishment of the old Mbowe Hotels in the heart of Dar es Salaam, leading to setting up of Hard Rock Restaurant and Bilicanas Club and Casino.
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Kama wameanza kukana madai yao ya awali kuwa Mbowe hadaiwi hayo mabilioni na hajaitia NSSF hasara, je kuna sababu ya watu kuomba msamaha kwa Mbowe?
 
Mtanzania said:
Mwafrika wa Kike,

Unamlaumu Rostam kwa hili la Mbowe? Nafikiri kwa hapo USA ulikuwa katika wale waliokuwa wanawalaumu Republican kwa scandal ya Clinton na Monika.

Ukiwa mwanasiasa na ukajikuta kwenye jambo lolote ambalo ni makosa yako, huna haki ya kumlaumu mtu.

Ni sawa na mafisadi wanapoilaumu JF. Sisi ni kioo tu, tunasaidia kuwaonyesha walivyochafuka. Sio sisi tuliowafanya wageuke kuwa hogs na kugalagala kwenye matope.

Mbowe hatakiwi kumlaumu mtu juu ya hili. Alipe deni la walala hoi na kuendelea na siasa zake.
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baadhi ya watu humu wanafaa kupuuzwa kwa kulialia na kuongea vitu visivyoelewa kwa madai fulani fulani ! its too complicated for some mzee !

ISHAFAHAMIKA KWAMBA MBOWE ANATUMIA VIFANYAKAZI VYAKE VYA KWENYE MITANDAO KUMCHAFULIA JINA ROSTAM AZIZ, HILO MBONA LINAFAHAMIKA !
 
na mbowe ataendelea kudaiwa hadi akamue hayo mabilioni ya watanzania either kutoka mdomoni au anapojua mwenyewe !
 
Dua said:
Nafikiri ni wakati baadhi ya Members kuacha kukurupuka katika maandishi yao. Unavuliwa nguo hivi hivi wakati huonekani na jina lako la bandia.
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Kuna watu huwa hawajui hili mkuu na sasa taratibu wanaanza kuumbuliwa na mimi kama kawaida yangu nimekamata popcorn yangu tayari kabisa kwa second part ya hii movie ambapo Kikwete na Mkullo watatakiwa kutoa maelezo ya pesa alizopewa Manji!
 
Mtanzania said:
Mbowe hatakiwi kumlaumu mtu juu ya hili. Alipe deni la walala hoi na kuendelea na siasa zake.
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point nzuri, sasa na ile kesi ya mahakamani iishie wapi; alipe kabla ya kesi au baada ya kesi au alipe kana kwamba hakuna kesi?
 
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