Mtume Muhammad: Jamii isipotoshwe; Jua huzama katika Chemchemu ya matope Meusi na Mazito

Mtume Muhammad: Jamii isipotoshwe; Jua huzama katika Chemchemu ya matope Meusi na Mazito

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masoud mshahara said:
Asiejua maana usimwambie maana ahahahahahaahha baki hivyo hivyo bongo fleva ahahhaahhaahahahah
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masoud mshahara said:
Ahahahahaahahaahaha kumbe Mungu ni roho , ndio maana hawezi kuwa kama wewe , bila shaka umeelewa mfano wa Mungu ni kwenye mamlaka sio maumbile ahahhaahhaahahahah au roho inapua ?
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masoud mshahara said:
Kwanza umekiri kuwa Mungu mda mwengine huwa asamehi ANAUA asante sana, halafu nimekupa andiko hapo nimekwambia ni Musa hivi huwa hamsomi ?
1.MUSA ANATOA AMRI YA KUUA
HESABU 31:18
"Basi kwa ajili hiyo MWUENI kila mume katika hao WATOTO, na kila mwanamke aliyemjua mume, kwa kulala pamoja naye ";

Ahahahahaahahaahaha huyo Musa sio Mungu wewe ahhhahaaaajajaaj
2. Acha uvivu huyu Nabii SAMWEL nae alimkatakata Mfalme AGAGI
1 SAMUEL 15:33
" lakini SAMWEL akamjibu , kama Upanga wako ulivyofanya wanawake kufiwa na WATOTO wao, vivyo hivyo mama yako atafiwa miongoni mwa wanawake. Basi SAMWEL AKAMKATA Agagi VIPANDE mbele za Bwana huko Gilgali",

sasa huyo SAMWEL nae alikuwa Mungu? Muwe mnasoma acheni uvivu aisee ahahhaahhaahahahah Ahahhahahaahaaahah
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Wapi nimekiri?
Moses Aliamuru lini kuua?
Jibu maswali yangu, porojo za nini? Muhammad ni Mungu?
kwanini hiyo mistari hutaki kutuambia inasema nini?
Pagan religion for pagan Abdul-Harith. Waabudu mawe.

 
masoud mshahara said:
Hoja nin hapo bwana mdogo ? au kutokewa na Gabriel pango? mbona YAKOBO alimpigisha misamba Mungu wako mpaka kuchwee , Mungu akacheza rafu ahahhaahhaahahahah Ahahhahahaahaaahah
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Gavana said:

2 Corinthians 12:16 said:
But be it so, I did not burden you: nevertheless, being crafty, I caught you with guile.​
1 Corinthians 9:19-22 said:
For though I be free from all [men], yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more. And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law; To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law. To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all [men], that I might by all means save some.​
Romans 3:7 said:
For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?​
Also, look at the three narratives of his conversion experience in Acts 9:3-7, Acts 22:6-10, and Acts 26:12-20.

There are contradictions in these three narratives. Even the great western saint Jerome said of Paul:

Jerome said:
"I will only mention the Apostle Paul. ... He, then, if anyone, ought to be calumniated; we should speak thus to him: ‘The proofs which you have used against the Jews and against other heretics bear a different meaning in their own contexts to that which they bear in your Epistles.

We see passages taken captive by your pen and pressed into service to win you a victory, which in volumes from which they are taken have no controversial bearing at all ... the line so often adopted by strong men in controversy – of justifying the means by the result."​
So, how can we trust one who admits to using deceit, and not only that, but even those who followed his words and teachings admitted he did so? Can we really trust the letters of Paul to support any kind of spirituality if this is the case? And not only that, but later church fathers followed his lead, in finding great use for deception and lying, as long as they gained things for their god:

Clement of Alexandria said:
"Not all true things are the truth, nor should that truth which merely seems true according to human opinions be preferred to the true truth, that according to the faith."​
So, in Clements opinion, even if something is true, if it contradicts their faith, it's not to be regarded as true.

John Chrysostom said:
"Do you see the advantage of deceit? ...

For great is the value of deceit, provided it be not introduced with a mischievous intention. In fact action of this kind ought not to be called deceit, but rather a kind of good management, cleverness and skill, capable of finding out ways where resources fail, and making up for the defects of the mind ...

And often it is necessary to deceive, and to do the greatest benefits by means of this device, whereas he who has gone by a straight course has done great mischief to the person whom he has not deceived."​
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THE PROBLEM WITH THE ISLAMIC VIEW OF PAUL.


The common Muslim view of Paul has significant problems even when considered from an Islamic perspective.

First, what happened to the disciples?

How were they so easily overcome by Paul that either they were convinced by his trickery and followed him, or their voices were completely drowned out and there is no record of their dissent?

Was this outsider that much more powerful than Jesus that he was able to undo all of Jesus’ work and teachings? .


The problem becomes sharper when we revisit one of the Quranic verses that makes a promise to Jesus:

“Indeed, I will cleanse you (Jesus) from those who disbelieve, and I will make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieve, until the day of resurrection” (3.55).

Allah promises to make the disciples superior to disbelievers, and Jesus would be made free from such disbelievers.

The Muslim view of Paul, that he overcame the disciples and hijacked Jesus’ message, seems to ignore the Quran’s promise to the disciples.


It would be helpful if the Quran had something to say about Paul, but it says absolutely nothing, never so much as mentioning his name.

Given the pivotal role Muslims often think Paul had in corrupting Christianity, the silence is deafening. Why does the Quran not mention him?
Is it on account of the Quran’s omission that Muslims in the early and classical periods of Islam, such as Tabari and Qurtubi, saw Paul as a follower of Jesus?

In any criminal law; three aspects of a crime must be established before a suspect can be found guilty:
a means,
a motive, and
an opportunity.

The Islamic view that Paul hijacked Christianity fails to secure any of these three. Paul could not have had the means because Allah promised to make the disciples insuperable; there is no viable motive for Paul to deceive the church as his efforts earned him only persecution and a death sentence; and there is no model suggested that clarifies how Paul might have had an opportunity to overcome all the disciples and hijack the church. Of course, not only should Paul be considered innocent until proven guilty, but as far as the investigation is concerned, there simply is no evidence to convict him. Case closed.
 
masoud mshahara said:
Hivi ni vichekesho kama vichekesho vingine ahahhaahhaahahahah halafu kumbe unavyo vichache mbona unarudia vile vile tu ahahahahhqhhahah hauna jipya Ahahahahaaaahqa
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2013 said:
THE PROBLEM WITH THE ISLAMIC VIEW OF PAUL.


The common Muslim view of Paul has significant problems even when considered from an Islamic perspective.

First, what happened to the disciples?

How were they so easily overcome by Paul that either they were convinced by his trickery and followed him, or their voices were completely drowned out and there is no record of their dissent?

Was this outsider that much more powerful than Jesus that he was able to undo all of Jesus’ work and teachings? .


The problem becomes sharper when we revisit one of the Quranic verses that makes a promise to Jesus:

“Indeed, I will cleanse you (Jesus) from those who disbelieve, and I will make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieve, until the day of resurrection” (3.55).

Allah promises to make the disciples superior to disbelievers, and Jesus would be made free from such disbelievers.

The Muslim view of Paul, that he overcame the disciples and hijacked Jesus’ message, seems to ignore the Quran’s promise to the disciples.


It would be helpful if the Quran had something to say about Paul, but it says absolutely nothing, never so much as mentioning his name.

Given the pivotal role Muslims often think Paul had in corrupting Christianity, the silence is deafening. Why does the Quran not mention him?
Is it on account of the Quran’s omission that Muslims in the early and classical periods of Islam, such as Tabari and Qurtubi, saw Paul as a follower of Jesus?

In any criminal law; three aspects of a crime must be established before a suspect can be found guilty:
a means,
a motive, and
an opportunity.

The Islamic view that Paul hijacked Christianity fails to secure any of these three. Paul could not have had the means because Allah promised to make the disciples insuperable; there is no viable motive for Paul to deceive the church as his efforts earned him only persecution and a death sentence; and there is no model suggested that clarifies how Paul might have had an opportunity to overcome all the disciples and hijack the church. Of course, not only should Paul be considered innocent until proven guilty, but as far as the investigation is concerned, there simply is no evidence to convict him. Case closed.
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Why Paul should not be trusted

Paul never met Jesus in his life.

This is one of the main reasons to not trust and believe in Paul.

Before his self-claimed apostleship, his name was Saul and he used to be a murderer of the true believers.

On the road to Damascus, while on assignment to harass the true believers, he claims to have seen a vision of Christ, after which, he claimed, that Jesus gave him the authority to teach in his name.

There are many problems here.

Since he never met Jesus, common sense says that he has nothing to do with the religion and when we read what he has to say, we find that he really has nothing to do with the true religion of Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him).

Lets take a look at Paul’s vision as he describes it to various different people of different races.

1. In ACTS 9:3, it is stated that only Paul fell to the ground on seeing the light. Verse 7 says that others with him stood speechless.

2. ACTS 26:14 says they ALL fell to the ground.

3. ACTS 9:7 states that the people who journeyed with Paul didn't see anyone but heard a voice.

4. ACTS 22:9 says that those who were with Paul saw the light but DID NOT hear the voice of the speaker.


The above are clear contradictions and any man would immediately reject Paul completely after reading these verses.

If these are just clear lies and Paul has forgotten where he said what, then it is nothing more than his stupidity but if he is deliberately using this technique to tell different stories to different people, then this technique is still yet present.

Such a technique has laid a very important base of the Church i.e. adopt an approach that suits the person.

Festivals like Christmas; Halloween etc have nothing to do with Christianity but the Church has introduced them into it following the footsteps of Paul.

"But be it so, I did not burden you nevertheless, being crafty, I CAUGHT YOU WITH GUILE."
(2 CORINTHIANS 12:16)

…and with it, he lies again,

1 Thess. 2:3
"For the appeal we make does not spring from error or impure motives, nor are we trying to trick you."

“I say the truth in Christ, I lie not"
(Rom. 9:1, 1 Tim. 2:7)
 
masoud mshahara said:
Ahahahahaahahaahaha ukiona muislamu kaenda motoni ujue huyo ni muovu kabisa , Quran aijaacha kitu
QURAN 40:40
";Mwenye kutenda uovu hatalipwa ila sawa na huo uovu wake, na anaye tenda wema, akiwa mwanamume au mwanamke , naye ni muumini ; basi hao wataingia peponi , Waruzukiwe humo bila ya HESABU";

Ahahahahaahahaahaha hii ndio kanuni hakuna ujanja ujanja wa kubebeana mafurushi ya midhambi ahahhaahhaahahahah
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Murongo wewe. na Mudy anaposema kuwa Allah atahamishia dhambi zeu kwa wasioamini alikuwa anaota au Kojo la ngamia lilimzidi?
 
Kisoda2 said:
Wapi nimekiri?
Moses Aliamuru lini kuua?
Jibu maswali yangu, porojo za nini? Muhammad ni Mungu?
kwanini hiyo mistari hutaki kutuambia inasema nini?
Pagan religion for pagan Abdul-Harith. Waabudu mawe.

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Ahahahahaahahaahaha huyu kumbe ni mweupe sana haya twende kazi
1. Wapi nimekiri Mungu asamehi ?
JIBU : hatuitaji wewe ukiri au usikiri hilo utajua mwenyewe , huo ni ugonjwa unaougua wew , MUNGU ALIUA uzao wa kwanza wa Misri wala HAKUSAMEHE.
KUTOKA 12:29
"Hata ikawa , usiku wa manane Bwana AKAWAPIGA wazaliwa wa kwanza wote katika nchi ya misri, tangu mzaliwa wa kwanza wa FARAO aliyeketi katika kiti chake cha enzi, hata mzaliwa wa kwanza wa mtu ALIYEFUNGWA katika Nyumba ya wafungwa wafungwa; na wazaliwa wa kwanza wote wa WANYAMA";

Ahahahahaahahaahaha kaua WATU na WANYAMA. Watu wamefanya Uovu sawa je wanyama wamefanya nini mpaka akawaua? Ahahahahhaah Mungu kuna mda asamehi wewe ukubali au ukatae sio tatizo Ahahhahahahahah

2.Musa aliamuru lini KUUA ?
JIBU : uvivu wa kusoma maandiko ni jambo baya sana ahaahhhhhahaha
HESABU 31:15-18
15" Musa akawauliza , Je mmewaponya wanawake wote hai?
17"; Basi kwa ajili hiyo MWUENI kila mume katika hao WATOTO , na kila mwanamke aliyemjua mume kwa kulala pamoja naye
18" lakini hao WATOTO wote wa kike ambao hawakumjua Mume kwa kulala pamoja naye , mtawaweka hai kwa AJILI yenu ";

Ahahahahaahahaahaha ndio Musa katoa amri ya KUUA ,baada ya majemedari kurudi vitani na mateka, Musa akatoa amri wafe wote waachwe wale bikra tu ahahahahhqhhahah
3. Kwani Mohamadi ni Mungu ?
JIBU: Mohamadi sio Mungu aliwaadhibu WAUAJI kama Nabii SAMWEL alivyomwadhibu MUUAJI mfalme AGAGI mbele ya Bwana huko Gilgali
1 SAMUEL 15:33
" Lakini SAMWEL akamjibu , kama UPANGA wako ulivyofanya wanawake KUFIWA na WATOTO wao, vivyo hivyo mama yako ATAFIWA miongoni mwa wanawake . Basi SAMWEL AKAMKATA Agagi VIPANDE mbele za Bwana huko Gilgali";

sasa kama Mohammed kuwaadhibu WAUAJI anakuwa Mungu , Je SAMWEL alieua MUUAJI Agagi utampa cheo cha Mungu mkuu? Ahahahahhaah ahahaahahhahah kasome tena
 
mgen said:
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Ahahahahaahahaahaha Mungu kabanwa mpaka ana taka ashike nyeti za mja wake ahahahhaaahahhahahaha Yakobo ni hatari
 
masoud mshahara said:
Hoja ya msingi Kuhusu jua kuzama katika matope , ilishajibiwa andiko liko wazi ni dhul Qarnaini ndio aliona jua likizama katika matope upeo wa macho yake. huu mjadala ulifungwa ndio maana mtoa mada alishindwa kutetea hoja yake akaingia mitini Ahahaahahaaaaha kwa sababu alikurupuka
UMETOA HADITHI KADHAA UKAULIZA
1. Kwanini mtume asiwasamehe akawatoboa macho ?
JIBU : Kwanini Mungu aliangamiza watu wa Nuhu asiwasamehe?, watu wa sodoma asiwasamehe?, kizazi cha kwanza cha wamisri kuanzia watu mpaka wanyama asiwasamehe?
Kwanini Musa alitoa amri ya kuuliwa watu asiwasamehe?
HESABU 31:17
" Basi kwa ajili hiyo mwueni kila mume katika hao WATOTO ,na kila mwanamke aliyemjua mume kwa kulala pamoja naye.

Ukishapata majibu ya hapo utaelewa kuwa sio kila mara mkosaji huwa anasamehewa

2. Kama ni mtume wa Mungu kwanini hakujua hao watu wangeua wachungaji wake?
JIBU: hawezi jua kila kitu kwasababu yeye ni mtu , SASA kama Mungu wako AKUJUA kama SAULI angekataa neno lake unafikir angemfanya kuwa mfalme wa waisrael? Ahahahahhaah Msikilize Mungu wako ANAVYOJUTA kwa kumfanya SAULI mfalme maana amekataa kabisa kusikiliza neno lake
1 SAMUEL 15:9-10
9" Ndipo neno la Bwana likamjia SAMWEL , Kusema
10" NAJUTA kwa sababu NIMEMTAWAZA Sauli awe mfalme ; maana amerudi nyuma, asinifuate , wala hakufanya nilivyomuamuru, SAMWEL akasikitika akamlilia Bwana usiku kucha";

Ahahahahaahahaahaha kwanini Mungu wako AJUTE ? hakujua kama Sauli atarudi nyuma . Sasa badala ya Kushangaa Mungu wako kutojua kuwa Sauli atarudi nyuma, wewe kwa sababu una akili fupi unashangaa mwanadamu kutokujua jambo ahahaahahhahah ahahhaahhaahahahah kasome upyaa uje hapa
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After this scenario what happened to Paul then?
 
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Mtume alilingania watu miaka mingi hiyo aya ni kwa ajili ya makaidi , ila wewe mgeni bado ujawa mkaidi unaelewa kuwa Mungu kamtuma Yesu, hivyo Mungu ni boss na Yesu ni mtumwa tu ahahahahhqhhahah
 
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