SGR ya Kenya inabeba tonne 4,000 wakati ya Tanzania itakuwa nauwezowa tonne 10,000 za mzigo.

[REDEEMER.]

Soma vuzuri article. Unazidi kujichanganya nakitu simple sana 10,000÷4,000=? Huyo ndo Uhuruto

Dah ila Wachina kweli sio watu, yaani wakenya wamekamuliwa mpaka cent ya Mwisho kwa hizo mitungi iliyo chini ya kiwango kabisa, masikini ya Mungu unaweza ukalia kabisa namna Wachina walivyowafanya ndugu zetu

 

[Tata]

Bora hata wao washaiona na kuanza kuitumia ya kwetu ipo kwny makaratasi mipicha picha tu

Kufananisha kitu ambacho kipo kinafanya kazi tayari ya kubeba mizigo dhidi ya michoro ya reli na ahadi tamutamu za wanasiasa ni uwendawazimu. Tusubiri ikamilike ili tulinganishe capacity ya hii ya kwetu wakati huo na capacity ya SGR ya Kenya ya wakati huo.

 

[REDEEMER.]

Kufananisha kitu ambacho kipo kinafanya kazi tayari ya kubeba mizigo dhidi ya michoro ya reli na ahadi tamutamu za wanasiasa ni uwendawazimu. Tusubiri ikamilike ili tulinganishe capacity ya hii ya kwetu wakati huo na capacity ya SGR ya Kenya ya wakati huo.

SGR yetu haipo kwenye makaratasi mafundi wapo site huu ni mwezi wa pili wanajenga

 

[Tata]

SGR yetu haipo kwenye makaratasi mafundi wapo site huu ni mwezi wa pili wanajenga

Asante kwa taarifa ndugu wameshajenga kilometer ngapi? Kama wako site bado hoja inabaki palepale kuwa huwezi kulinganisha nyumba inayojengwa na ambayo imekamilika na watu wanaishi ndani yake.

 

[REDEEMER.]

Asante kwa taarifa ndugu wameshajenga kilometer ngapi? Kama wako site bado hoja inabaki palepale kuwa huwezi kulinganisha nyumba inayojengwa na ambayo imekamilika na watu wanaishi ndani yake.

Tafuta kwenye YouTube ipo millardayo inaonesha wapo site na utapata maelezo ya kina.

 

[MK254]

Hivi wewe ulipozaliwa tu tayari ukawa na uwezo wa kutoa mbegu za kiume? Au ulipoanza darasa la kwanza tu ukafanya mtihani wa kumaliza darasa la saba? Kila jambo lina process yake hadi kufikia kukamilika

Sawa ila nilipozaliwa sikuanza kulinganisha kadushe kangu na watu wazima niliowakuta, hivyo mradi wenu bado sana, haujazaliwa na hamuwezi kuanza kulinganisha na mibaba ambao tumekomaa na midushe yetu inayotema mbegu. Msubiri bado ndio wazazi wenu wanajamiana ili mzaliwe.

 

[MK254]

the guy has no clue what he is talking about ,

the first article is very clear that the kenyan sgr can carry about 4000 tonnes of containers (216 twenty foot containers double stacked in one train), containers is the key word, the kenyan sgr can carry much more than 10 000 tonnes of bulk cargo (not containers)

the second article he quotes says that tanzanian cargo trains can carry only 100 single stacked containers , so somebody should explain to us how 100 single stacked containers can carry 10000 tonnes when 200 containers can carry only about 4000 tonnes,
they are directly using the total bulk cargo tonnage (not container tonnage)

Very simple arithmetic, hawa jamaa hata waisome hii mara mia hawawezi kuielewa.

 

[xng hua]

Hiyo sgr ya Tanzania iko ap?

 

[mulisaaa]

Hiyo sgr ya Tanzania iko ap?

Edit ulicho andika

 

[mulisaaa]

Very simple arithmetic, hawa jamaa hata waisome hii mara mia hawawezi kuielewa.

Inaeleweka sana tu. Acheni kujazana ujinga nie akina UHURUTO 10,000÷4,000=? Huitaji physics au chemistry kupata jibu. Pia nimesema leta source inayoonyesha SGR ya Kenya inaimili tonne 10,000.

 

[mulisaaa]

Nabado anaitaji mitano mingine.

 

[kamanda mbigi]

Ya Tanzania ipo wapi....?

 

[Kafrican]

SGR ya Kenya inauwezo wakubeba tonne 4,000 wakati ya Tanzania itakuwa na uwezo wakube tonne10,000 za mzigo kwa wakati mmoja ambayo ni zaidi ya mala mbili ya SGR ya Kenya. Hili swala nilikuwa sijawahi lichunguza. Kiukweli Magufuli anastahili pongezi. Wachina sio watu wazuri kwa Kenya. Inamaana mfumo wa SGR(Tuta) ya Tanzania itakuwa na uwezo mkubwa zaidi wakubeba mzigo.View attachment 533891View attachment 533892

Nimekaa nikangojea angalauwatu wawili au mmoja ajiulize maswali au ajaribu kuelewa maneno kadhaa kwa hizo screenshots zinamaanisha nini, lakini imebidi nikubali tu kwamba hapa JF watu hawapendi hata kujaribu kujadili kiutaalamu, watu wanapenda kushobokea tu bila ya kuelewa ni nini haswaa wanashobokea.....


Tuanze kitu cha kwanza unafaa muelewe, hapa wanaongelea treni wala sio reli.... hapo kwa kenya wanasema Trailing load of 4,000 tonnes on each train....
Je unajua maana ya trailing load???? Hii hapa maana yake.

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Trailing load refers to the maximum tonnage volume that can be hauled by a freight train and it depends on the propulsion strength of the locomotive being used. Indian Railways' freight trains currently carry a maximum trailing load of 3,900 tonnes. Indian Railways operates 10,500 locomotives to haul both passenger and freight trains at present.
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unaelewa maana ya trailing load???? kama hujaelewa hebu fikiria ki hivi, Kenya imejenga barabara nzuri, nzito na ya kudumu, lakini imenunua malori mengi yenye uwezo wa kadri.... Tanzania inapanga kujenya barabara ya kadri (Nitakueleza badae kwanini ni kadri) lakini inapanga kununua trela nzito zenye uwezo wa kubeba mzigo mzito... Sasa hebu nikuulize, ni barbara ya nani ndo itaharibika haraka na kuhitaji marekebisho kila mara?

Kwahivyo, kani ni ukweli walivyosema hao viongozi wenu... nashuku sasa umeelewa trailing load inamaanisha nini, kwahivyo kabla hata hatujaendelea, Geuza mada, Ondoa neno SGR na uweke treni/gari la moshi.... yani mada isome " Treni ya Kenya inabeba 4,000 wakati......" manake SGR ni technology ya reli ambayo ni kitu tofauti kabisa na uwezo wa treni!


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Ukiangalia India hapo, india ni nchi ya tano duniani kwa uchukuzi wa mizigo kupitia reli, treni nzito zaidi walionayo, inabeba 3,900 tonnes pekee.. hii ni kwasababu treni ikiwa pale badarini, haiwezi ikanjojea mizigo yote ya wiki ipakuliwe kwa mpigo... Mizigo kadhaa ikipakuliwa unafaa uichukue na kuipeleka.... Hii inamaanisha huko Tanzania kama mtakua na treni za kubeba 10,000 tonnes kwa mpigo mmoja, itabidi treni ingojee kama siku mbili na nusu ndo ijae mizigo ya kutosheleza, itasababisha mizigo kuxhelewa iwe hata hakuna tofauti na lori likianza kupeleka huo mzigo na lori!-----


Angalia hapa, mchina ambaye ndo anabebesha mizigo mingi zaidi duniani kupitia reli, hii ndo average trailing load yao kwa kila treni

Average freight train carrying capacity in China 2014
This statistic shows the average weight of freights carried by trains in China from 2006 to 2014. In 2007, a freight train in China carried in average a load of around 3,200 tons.

Infact, nimepitia tovuti nyingi sana kabla niandike haya na nimeona kwamba treni zinazobeba mizigo mingi kwa mpigo, 90% ni za kubeba iron ore na madini mengine mazito
Germany heaviest train -6000tonnes
France 5,410t



Nchi inayoshikilia rekodi ya dunia kwa treni yenye mzigo mzito kabisa duniani ni South Africa... ilivunja rekodi hio mwaka wa 1989!!!!
Hii hapa treni yenyewe iliokua mbele kabisa ikivuta mizigo

treni yenyewe ilikua na urefu wa 7.2KM !(ya kenya ya sasa ni 880m), na ilivita mabehewa 660 yaliyobeba 91,000tonns!
South Africa's World Record Breaking Train! | The Heritage Portal




Kwahivyo hapo juu, yanayoongelewa ni umezo wa treni bali si uwezo wa reli... treni ni jambo dogo sana ukilinganisha na ujenzi wa reli yenyewe... Pesa zilizo tumika kwa kununua treni ni 5% ya pesa zote zilizotumika kwa ujenzi wa reli.... Kumbuka hata Kenya inampango wa kuweka stima kwa reli yake by 2020 na itabidi tununue treni zengine za kutumia stima, lakini reli yenyewe inatarajiwa kufanya kazi kwa miaka zaidi ya 100... kwahivyo uwezo wa reli ndo muhimu, na ikija kwa uwezo wa reli, SGR ya Tanzania mepitwa na mbali sana na SGR ya Kenya..

comparizon ya Kenya, Uganda, Ethiopia, Tanzania SGR, ilifanywa na Ministry of Transport UG

Angalia No 16 hapo Reli ya Tz itajengwa na umezo wakubeba maximum of 18 Million tonnes per year au ukitaka 18m/365days = 49,315 tonnes per day -Kwahivyo mkitaka, mnaeza nunua hata treni mbili tu za uwezo wa kubeba 20,000 tonnes each... ama ukipenda zaidi, muwe na treni moja tu yenye uwezo wa 50,000 tonnes ibebe mizigo yote kwa mpigo mmoja! lakini jambo la muhimu la kuangalia ni msipitishe zadi ya avg 49,315 tonnes kwa siku au 18Million kwa mwaka manake mkipitisha hapo, reli itakaribika kwa mda mfupi.....

Ukiangalia reli ya Kenya, design ya reli ni nzito, inaeza kubeba hadi maximum of 35Million tonnes kwa mwaka! au ukipenda 95,890 tonnes kwa siku, kwahivyo hata tukipenda tunaweza kununua reli ya urefu wa 7km na mabehewa 700 ya kubeba mizigo yote kwa mpigo mmoja..






Kwahivyo muache kelele nyingi bila vitendo,, mdomo mkubwa hata hamjaanza ujenzi, tulizeni boli kwanza... Wakuu wenu wameshaanza propaganda za kujilinganisha na reli ya Kenya, watanzania wenyewe hata hamjui kuchambua, mazombie kazi kushikilia chochote mnachoambiwa kana kwamba biblia/quran... Baada ya miaka 20 hivi wakati uchumi wenu utakua umekua hako ka reli kenu ka 18m tonnes/year katakua hakawezi kuwatosheleza mahitaji yenu tena, itabidi muengeze reli ya pili yenye uwezo sawa ndo mjitosheleze, wakati Kenya reli hio hio moja ya max 35m tonnes/year itakua bado iko na capacity ya kuongeza usafirishaji wa mizigo bila kuhitaji reli nyengine kujengwa

 

[Kafrican]

Mrusi naye ndo huyo anajenga reli mpya ya mizigo huko kaskazini kwao ambayo itakamilika 2019... Reli yenyewe itakua na capacity ya 35Million tonnes/year kama ya kenya.... Ya tanzania ni 18Mln tonnes/year

Russia to extend world's most northerly railway
VIS TransStroy, Russia, signed a concession agreement on December 30 to extend Gazprom's Obskaya – Bovanenkovo Yamal Peninsula line, which is already the world's northernmost railway, north to the port of Sabetta on the western shore of the Ob estuary.

The 170km 1520mm-gauge line will cost Roubles 113bn ($US 1.54bn) to construct and is due to be completed by 2019. VIS TransStroy will design, build and operate the line until 2036, when control of the railway will be transferred to the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Region.

The railway will support the export of natural gas from the Yuzhno-Tambeyskoye gas field through a new port at Sabetta on the Arctic coast, where an LNG plant is being constructed.

The line will carry passengers as well as freight and will be constructed as a single-track line with provision for the addition of a second track in the longer-term. The maximum speed for passenger and freight trains will be 50km/h.

Freight traffic is forecast to reach seven million tonnes by the fifth year of operation, increasing to 14 million tonnes by the 10th year. The line will have design capacity for a maximum of 35 million tonnes.

 

[MK254]

Nimekaa nikangojea angalauwatu wawili au mmoja ajiulize maswali au ajaribu kuelewa maneno kadhaa kwa hizo screenshots zinamaanisha nini, lakini imebidi nikubali tu kwamba hapa JF watu hawapendi hata kujaribu kujadili kiutaalamu, watu wanapenda kushobokea tu bila ya kuelewa ni nini haswaa wanashobokea.....


Tuanze kitu cha kwanza unafaa muelewe, hapa wanaongelea treni wala sio reli.... hapo kwa kenya wanasema Trailing load of 4,000 tonnes on each train....
Je unajua maana ya trailing load???? Hii hapa maana yake.

---------
Trailing load refers to the maximum tonnage volume that can be hauled by a freight train and it depends on the propulsion strength of the locomotive being used. Indian Railways' freight trains currently carry a maximum trailing load of 3,900 tonnes. Indian Railways operates 10,500 locomotives to haul both passenger and freight trains at present.
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unaelewa maana ya trailing load???? kama hujaelewa hebu fikiria ki hivi, Kenya imejenga barabara nzuri, nzito na ya kudumu, lakini imenunua malori mengi yenye uwezo wa kadri.... Tanzania inapanga kujenya barabara ya kadri (Nitakueleza badae kwanini ni kadri) lakini inapanga kununua trela nzito zenye uwezo wa kubeba mzigo mzito... Sasa hebu nikuulize, ni barbara ya nani ndo itaharibika haraka na kuhitaji marekebisho kila mara?

Kwahivyo, kani ni ukweli walivyosema hao viongozi wenu... nashuku sasa umeelewa trailing load inamaanisha nini, kwahivyo kabla hata hatujaendelea, Geuza mada, Ondoa neno SGR na uweke treni/gari la moshi.... yani mada isome " Treni ya Kenya inabeba 4,000 wakati......" manake SGR ni technology ya reli ambayo ni kitu tofauti kabisa na uwezo wa treni!


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Ukiangalia India hapo, india ni nchi ya tano duniani kwa uchukuzi wa mizigo kupitia reli, treni nzito zaidi walionayo, inabeba 3,900 tonnes pekee.. hii ni kwasababu treni ikiwa pale badarini, haiwezi ikanjojea mizigo yote ya wiki ipakuliwe kwa mpigo... Mizigo kadhaa ikipakuliwa unafaa uichukue na kuipeleka.... Hii inamaanisha huko Tanzania kama mtakua na treni za kubeba 10,000 tonnes kwa mpigo mmoja, itabidi treni ingojee kama siku mbili na nusu ndo ijae mizigo ya kutosheleza, itasababisha mizigo kuxhelewa iwe hata hakuna tofauti na lori likianza kupeleka huo mzigo na lori!-----


Angalia hapa, mchina ambaye ndo anabebesha mizigo mingi zaidi duniani kupitia reli, hii ndo average trailing load yao kwa kila treni

Average freight train carrying capacity in China 2014
This statistic shows the average weight of freights carried by trains in China from 2006 to 2014. In 2007, a freight train in China carried in average a load of around 3,200 tons.
View attachment 534606



Infact, nimepitia tovuti nyingi sana kabla niandike haya na nimeona kwamba treni zinazobeba mizigo mingi kwa mpigo, 90% ni za kubeba iron ore na madini mengine mazito
Germany heaviest train -6000tonnes
France 5,410t



Nchi inayoshikilia rekodi ya dunia kwa treni yenye mzigo mzito kabisa duniani ni South Africa... ilivunja rekodi hio mwaka wa 1989!!!!
Hii hapa treni yenyewe iliokua mbele kabisa ikivuta mizigo

treni yenyewe ilikua na urefu wa 7.2KM !(ya kenya ya sasa ni 880m), na ilivita mabehewa 660 yaliyobeba 91,000tonns!
South Africa's World Record Breaking Train! | The Heritage Portal




Kwahivyo hapo juu, yanayoongelewa ni umezo wa treni bali si uwezo wa reli... treni ni jambo dogo sana ukilinganisha na ujenzi wa reli yenyewe... Pesa zilizo tumika kwa kununua treni ni 5% ya pesa zote zilizotumika kwa ujenzi wa reli.... Kumbuka hata Kenya inampango wa kuweka stima kwa reli yake by 2020 na itabidi tununue treni zengine za kutumia stima, lakini reli yenyewe inatarajiwa kufanya kazi kwa miaka zaidi ya 100... kwahivyo uwezo wa reli ndo muhimu, na ikija kwa uwezo wa reli, SGR ya Tanzania mepitwa na mbali sana na SGR ya Kenya..

comparizon ya Kenya, Uganda, Ethiopia, Tanzania SGR, ilifanywa na Ministry of Transport UG
View attachment 534611


Angalia No 16 hapo Reli ya Tz itajengwa na umezo wakubeba maximum of 18 Million tonnes per year au ukitaka 18m/365days = 49,315 tonnes per day -Kwahivyo mkitaka, mnaeza nunua hata treni mbili tu za uwezo wa kubeba 20,000 tonnes each... ama ukipenda zaidi, muwe na treni moja tu yenye uwezo wa 50,000 tonnes ibebe mizigo yote kwa mpigo mmoja! lakini jambo la muhimu la kuangalia ni msipitishe zadi ya avg 49,315 tonnes kwa siku au 18Million kwa mwaka manake mkipitisha hapo, reli itakaribika kwa mda mfupi.....

Ukiangalia reli ya Kenya, design ya reli ni nzito, inaeza kubeba hadi maximum of 35Million tonnes kwa mwaka! au ukipenda 95,890 tonnes kwa siku, kwahivyo hata tukipenda tunaweza kununua reli ya urefu wa 7km na mabehewa 700 ya kubeba mizigo yote kwa mpigo mmoja..






Kwahivyo muache kelele nyingi bila vitendo,, mdomo mkubwa hata hamjaanza ujenzi, tulizeni boli kwanza... Wakuu wenu wameshaanza propaganda za kujilinganisha na reli ya Kenya, watanzania wenyewe hata hamjui kuchambua, mazombie kazi kushikilia chochote mnachoambiwa kana kwamba biblia/quran... Baada ya miaka 20 hivi wakati uchumi wenu utakua umekua hako ka reli kenu ka 18m tonnes/year katakua hakawezi kuwatosheleza mahitaji yenu tena, itabidi muengeze reli ya pili yenye uwezo sawa ndo mjitosheleze, wakati Kenya reli hio hio moja ya max 35m tonnes/year itakua bado iko na capacity ya kuongeza usafirishaji wa mizigo bila kuhitaji reli nyengine kujengwa

Duh! Ndio uzuri wa mitandao ya kijamii, humu kuna mengi ya kujifunza, tatizo umbumbumbu wa wanaolengwa unawazuia kutumia akili. Utakuta hapa hata hatasoma huu udadavuaji.
Japo najua kuna wengi wanapita kimya na kujifunza kitu.

Naomba Toyota escudo apitie hili bandiko neno kwa neno.

 

[Mberoya]

Dah ila Wachina kweli sio watu, yaani wakenya wamekamuliwa mpaka cent ya Mwisho kwa hizo mitungi iliyo chini ya kiwango kabisa, masikini ya Mungu unaweza ukalia kabisa namna Wachina walivyowafanya ndugu zetu

Nao Wakenya wamekuwa wajanja mno, ndiyo maana wamenasa kwenye tundu bovu kama ndege!

 

[Jay456watt]

Tuongelee technology wakati mnashida ya mahindi na migomo ya manesi. Usitutoe ufahamu.

alafu ukome upumbavu wako wa kulinganisha linganisha kila uchao...kama mwenzako alivosema hapo juu linganisha kitu ambacho kiko tayari kinafanya kazi sio mambo ya ndoto za abunwasi unatulinganishia hapa upumbavu...hivi nikuulize tani hizo zote za mizigo zitakua zinapelekwa wapi? Morogoro? tumia ubongo aisee...sio kujivuna vuna ovyo ovyo na hata reli yenyewe haiwezi ikapata mizigo ya kiasi hicho..isitoshe reli yenyewe haijajengwa hata kilomita 20....hata mkapeleka rwanda haiwezi ikapata mizigo tani hizo...ur chasing the wind my friend

 

[Mr Hero]

Kuna vilaza na vilazwa, mleta uzi yupo group la vilazwa,

Unazungumzia mradi ulio kwenye ndoto na mradi ambao unafanya kazi, hizo pesa za hiyo reli mnazopiga mizinga nje mmeshapata? Wakenya wanajivua kitu ambacho wanacho tayari na wanakimiliki, wafuasi wa chama cha kijani mnatia kinyaa kabisa kwa ujuha

 

[Quickly]

Mrusi naye ndo huyo anajenga reli mpya ya mizigo huko kaskazini kwao ambayo itakamilika 2019... Reli yenyewe itakua na capacity ya 35Million tonnes/year kama ya kenya.... Ya tanzania ni 18Mln tonnes/year

Russia to extend world's most northerly railway
VIS TransStroy, Russia, signed a concession agreement on December 30 to extend Gazprom's Obskaya – Bovanenkovo Yamal Peninsula line, which is already the world's northernmost railway, north to the port of Sabetta on the western shore of the Ob estuary.

The 170km 1520mm-gauge line will cost Roubles 113bn ($US 1.54bn) to construct and is due to be completed by 2019. VIS TransStroy will design, build and operate the line until 2036, when control of the railway will be transferred to the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Region.

The railway will support the export of natural gas from the Yuzhno-Tambeyskoye gas field through a new port at Sabetta on the Arctic coast, where an LNG plant is being constructed.

The line will carry passengers as well as freight and will be constructed as a single-track line with provision for the addition of a second track in the longer-term. The maximum speed for passenger and freight trains will be 50km/h.

Freight traffic is forecast to reach seven million tonnes by the fifth year of operation, increasing to 14 million tonnes by the 10th year. The line will have design capacity for a maximum of 35 million tonnes.

Nimekaa nikangojea angalauwatu wawili au mmoja ajiulize maswali au ajaribu kuelewa maneno kadhaa kwa hizo screenshots zinamaanisha nini, lakini imebidi nikubali tu kwamba hapa JF watu hawapendi hata kujaribu kujadili kiutaalamu, watu wanapenda kushobokea tu bila ya kuelewa ni nini haswaa wanashobokea.....


Tuanze kitu cha kwanza unafaa muelewe, hapa wanaongelea treni wala sio reli.... hapo kwa kenya wanasema Trailing load of 4,000 tonnes on each train....
Je unajua maana ya trailing load???? Hii hapa maana yake.

---------
Trailing load refers to the maximum tonnage volume that can be hauled by a freight train and it depends on the propulsion strength of the locomotive being used. Indian Railways' freight trains currently carry a maximum trailing load of 3,900 tonnes. Indian Railways operates 10,500 locomotives to haul both passenger and freight trains at present.
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unaelewa maana ya trailing load???? kama hujaelewa hebu fikiria ki hivi, Kenya imejenga barabara nzuri, nzito na ya kudumu, lakini imenunua malori mengi yenye uwezo wa kadri.... Tanzania inapanga kujenya barabara ya kadri (Nitakueleza badae kwanini ni kadri) lakini inapanga kununua trela nzito zenye uwezo wa kubeba mzigo mzito... Sasa hebu nikuulize, ni barbara ya nani ndo itaharibika haraka na kuhitaji marekebisho kila mara?

Kwahivyo, kani ni ukweli walivyosema hao viongozi wenu... nashuku sasa umeelewa trailing load inamaanisha nini, kwahivyo kabla hata hatujaendelea, Geuza mada, Ondoa neno SGR na uweke treni/gari la moshi.... yani mada isome " Treni ya Kenya inabeba 4,000 wakati......" manake SGR ni technology ya reli ambayo ni kitu tofauti kabisa na uwezo wa treni!


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Ukiangalia India hapo, india ni nchi ya tano duniani kwa uchukuzi wa mizigo kupitia reli, treni nzito zaidi walionayo, inabeba 3,900 tonnes pekee.. hii ni kwasababu treni ikiwa pale badarini, haiwezi ikanjojea mizigo yote ya wiki ipakuliwe kwa mpigo... Mizigo kadhaa ikipakuliwa unafaa uichukue na kuipeleka.... Hii inamaanisha huko Tanzania kama mtakua na treni za kubeba 10,000 tonnes kwa mpigo mmoja, itabidi treni ingojee kama siku mbili na nusu ndo ijae mizigo ya kutosheleza, itasababisha mizigo kuxhelewa iwe hata hakuna tofauti na lori likianza kupeleka huo mzigo na lori!-----


Angalia hapa, mchina ambaye ndo anabebesha mizigo mingi zaidi duniani kupitia reli, hii ndo average trailing load yao kwa kila treni

Average freight train carrying capacity in China 2014
This statistic shows the average weight of freights carried by trains in China from 2006 to 2014. In 2007, a freight train in China carried in average a load of around 3,200 tons.
View attachment 534606



Infact, nimepitia tovuti nyingi sana kabla niandike haya na nimeona kwamba treni zinazobeba mizigo mingi kwa mpigo, 90% ni za kubeba iron ore na madini mengine mazito
Germany heaviest train -6000tonnes
France 5,410t



Nchi inayoshikilia rekodi ya dunia kwa treni yenye mzigo mzito kabisa duniani ni South Africa... ilivunja rekodi hio mwaka wa 1989!!!!
Hii hapa treni yenyewe iliokua mbele kabisa ikivuta mizigo

treni yenyewe ilikua na urefu wa 7.2KM !(ya kenya ya sasa ni 880m), na ilivita mabehewa 660 yaliyobeba 91,000tonns!
South Africa's World Record Breaking Train! | The Heritage Portal




Kwahivyo hapo juu, yanayoongelewa ni umezo wa treni bali si uwezo wa reli... treni ni jambo dogo sana ukilinganisha na ujenzi wa reli yenyewe... Pesa zilizo tumika kwa kununua treni ni 5% ya pesa zote zilizotumika kwa ujenzi wa reli.... Kumbuka hata Kenya inampango wa kuweka stima kwa reli yake by 2020 na itabidi tununue treni zengine za kutumia stima, lakini reli yenyewe inatarajiwa kufanya kazi kwa miaka zaidi ya 100... kwahivyo uwezo wa reli ndo muhimu, na ikija kwa uwezo wa reli, SGR ya Tanzania mepitwa na mbali sana na SGR ya Kenya..

comparizon ya Kenya, Uganda, Ethiopia, Tanzania SGR, ilifanywa na Ministry of Transport UG
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Angalia No 16 hapo Reli ya Tz itajengwa na umezo wakubeba maximum of 18 Million tonnes per year au ukitaka 18m/365days = 49,315 tonnes per day -Kwahivyo mkitaka, mnaeza nunua hata treni mbili tu za uwezo wa kubeba 20,000 tonnes each... ama ukipenda zaidi, muwe na treni moja tu yenye uwezo wa 50,000 tonnes ibebe mizigo yote kwa mpigo mmoja! lakini jambo la muhimu la kuangalia ni msipitishe zadi ya avg 49,315 tonnes kwa siku au 18Million kwa mwaka manake mkipitisha hapo, reli itakaribika kwa mda mfupi.....

Ukiangalia reli ya Kenya, design ya reli ni nzito, inaeza kubeba hadi maximum of 35Million tonnes kwa mwaka! au ukipenda 95,890 tonnes kwa siku, kwahivyo hata tukipenda tunaweza kununua reli ya urefu wa 7km na mabehewa 700 ya kubeba mizigo yote kwa mpigo mmoja..






Kwahivyo muache kelele nyingi bila vitendo,, mdomo mkubwa hata hamjaanza ujenzi, tulizeni boli kwanza... Wakuu wenu wameshaanza propaganda za kujilinganisha na reli ya Kenya, watanzania wenyewe hata hamjui kuchambua, mazombie kazi kushikilia chochote mnachoambiwa kana kwamba biblia/quran... Baada ya miaka 20 hivi wakati uchumi wenu utakua umekua hako ka reli kenu ka 18m tonnes/year katakua hakawezi kuwatosheleza mahitaji yenu tena, itabidi muengeze reli ya pili yenye uwezo sawa ndo mjitosheleze, wakati Kenya reli hio hio moja ya max 35m tonnes/year itakua bado iko na capacity ya kuongeza usafirishaji wa mizigo bila kuhitaji reli nyengine kujengwa

Excellent analysis, this should close the thread!!

 

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alafu ukome upumbavu wako wa kulinganisha linganisha kila uchao...kama mwenzako alivosema hapo juu linganisha kitu ambacho kiko tayari kinafanya kazi sio mambo ya ndoto za abunwasi unatulinganishia hapa upumbavu...hivi nikuulize tani hizo zote za mizigo zitakua zinapelekwa wapi? Morogoro? tumia ubongo aisee...sio kujivuna vuna ovyo ovyo na hata reli yenyewe haiwezi ikapata mizigo ya kiasi hicho..isitoshe reli yenyewe haijajengwa hata kilomita 20....hata mkapeleka rwanda haiwezi ikapata mizigo tani hizo...ur chasing the wind my friend

Kua nacho ni kitu kingine ila hapa tunaongelea ubora wake na modernity broo you have to comedown acha presha