Sir Isaac Newton alivyoichambua BIBLIA

Sir Isaac Newton alivyoichambua BIBLIA

baba-mwajuma said:
Turudi hapa Umeweka kipande kidogo tu huja elezea maelezo marefu ya Newton, Umeweka kipande kidogo halafu uka tumia Tafsiri yako mwenyewe na ku ignore alichozungumza Newton mwenyewe?

Kuna point 12 ambazo Newton mwenyewe ameelezea Mahusiano baina ya Father and son kama ifuatavyo

  1. The word God is nowhere in the scriptures used to signify more than one of the three persons at once.
  2. The word God put absolutely without restriction to the Son or Holy Ghost doth always signify the Father from one end of the scriptures to the other.
  3. Whenever it is said in the scriptures that there is but one God, it is meant the Father.
  4. When, after some heretics had taken Christ for a mere man and others for the supreme God, St John in his Gospel endeavoured to state his nature so that men might have from thence a right apprehension of him and avoid those heresies and to that end calls him the word or logos: we must suppose that he intended that term in the sense that it was taken in the world before he used it when in like manner applied to an intelligent being. For if the Apostles had not used words as they found them how could they expect to have been rightly understood. Now the term logos before St John wrote, was generally used in the sense of the Platonists, when applied to an intelligent being and the Arians understood it in the same sense, and therefore theirs is the true sense of St John.
  5. The Son in several places confesseth his dependence on the will of the Father.
  6. The Son confesseth the Father greater, then calls him his God etc.
  7. The Son acknowledgeth the original prescience of all future things to be in the Father only.
  8. There is nowhere mention of a human soul in our Saviour besides the word, by the meditation of which the word should be incarnate. But the word itself was made flesh and took upon him the form of a servant.
  9. It was the son of God which He sent into the world and not a human soul that suffered for us. If there had been such a human soul in our Saviour, it would have been a thing of too great consequence to have been wholly omitted by the Apostles.
  10. It is a proper epithet of the Father to be called almighty. For by God almighty we always understand the Father. Yet this is not to limit the power of the Son. For he doth whatsoever he seeth the Father do; but to acknowledge that all power is originally in the Father and that the Son hath power in him but what he derives from the Father, for he professes that of himself he can do nothing.
  11. The Son in all things submits his will to the will of the Father, which could be unreasonable if he were equal to the Father.
  12. The union between him and the Father he interprets to be like that of the saints with one another. That is in agreement of will and counsel.
Sasa kama Newton hii ndio Tafsiri yake ya Son, ukisoma no 10 hapo God ni Almighty, Nguvu yote inatoka kwa Father na bila Father son is nothing, hii ni doctrine sawa na waisilamu kwamba Mitume wana nguvu ila nguvu zote zinatoka kwa Mungu na bila Mungu hawawezi fanya chochote.
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UNAKIMBIA HOJA YAKO KIJANJA ,HALAFU HAPO HIZO HOJA ZA NEWTON NDIO HIZO HIZO ZIMEELEZWA KWENYE WAEBRANIA SURA YA KWANZA

UNASEMA WAISLAMU MNAAMINI HIVO ,ACHA UTAPELI


NYIE MNAAMINI YESU NI MWANA WA MUNGU?

WAPI NEWTON ALIMTAMBUA TAPELI MUDY?
 
hamis77 said:
UNAKIMBIA HOJA YAKO KIJANJA ,HALAFU HAPO HIZO HOJA ZA NEWTON NDIO HIZO HIZO ZIMEELEZWA KWENYE WAEBRANIA SURA YA KWANZA

UNASEMA WAISLAMU MNAAMINI HIVO ,ACHA UTAPELI


NYIE MNAAMINI YESU NI MWANA WA MUNGU?

WAPI NEWTON ALIMTAMBUA TAPELI MUDY?
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Wasalimie, naamini ukweli ushaujua, tafuta watoto wenzako uende Lee kuwadanganya.
 
baba-mwajuma said:
Ushahidi Gani mwengine nikupe na nishakupa hadi kitabu? Wewe ndio tupe proof hicho kitabu ni cha uongo,

Pia usikimbie mada nimekua point 12 Za Newton zote anakataa Divinity ya Yesu, juu huko ulikua unaporomosha mineno kibao hapa naona unanijibu tu kifupi.

Naomba either zipinge hizo point za Newton.
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Hoja wala haikuwa kupinga Divinity ya Yesu ,ndio maana nimekwambia alichoandika hapo ndio kilichoandikwa ktk waebrania yote Sura ya 1 ,

Na hoja haikuwa hizo articles 12

Ulileta ya Trinity ikafa kifo cha mende



Hoja yako unayoikimbia ni hii

WAPI NEWTON ALIMZUNGUMZIA TAPELI MUDY,

Taja kitabu na u.k

Simple tu
 
baba-mwajuma said:
Wasalimie, naamini ukweli ushaujua, tafuta watoto wenzako uende Lee kuwadanganya.
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NILIJUA LAZIMA UKIMBIE

MM KUHUSU NEWTON NIMEMSOMA KUANZIA DARASANI KWENYE CALCLUS, GRAVITATIONAL FORCE,N.K NIKAJA KWENYE MASWALA YA DINI HUKO ANA VITABU HATA HUVIJUI

Hajawahi kumzungumzia tapeli Muhammad hata siku moja
 
Kujua hayo ni haisaidii chochote kama hutaelewa kusudi la unabii wa Daniel...

Danieli 9:24 BHN
[24] “ ‘Muda wa miaka saba mara sabini umewekwa kwa ajili ya watu wako na juu ya mji wako mtakatifu ili kumaliza makosa, kukomesha dhambi, kusamehe uovu, kuleta haki ya milele, kutia mhuri maono na unabii na kupaka mafuta mahali patakatifu kabisa.

Miaka 490 iliwekwa ili
1. Kumaliza makosa
2. Kukomesha dhambi
3. Kusamehe uovu
4. Kuleta haki ya milele

Baada ya hiyo miaka 490 kuisha hayo mambo ndiyo yaliyotokea. Makosa yalimalizika, Dhambi Ilikoma, Uovu wote ulisamehewa, Haki ya milele kwa watu wote ilikuja
 
Suhendra said:
Hebu tupe andiko linalo toka ndani ya biblia yesu akisema "Mimi ni mungu"
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Kwamba unataka kusema maandiko mengine yanayomtambua Yesu ni Mungu huyataki?waislamu mna matatizo sana
 
Suhendra said:
Hili ndio tatizo la makafiri mnadhani kumtukana mtume wetu ndio ushindi wenu
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Haiondoi alikuwa mtume mwenye madhambi mengi sana ndio maana anasema hajui atafanyajwe ,hajui itakuwaje ndio maana aliwaachia mzigo mumswalie
 
hamis77 said:
Haiondoi alikuwa mtume mwenye madhambi mengi sana ndio maana anasema hajui atafanyajwe ,hajui itakuwaje ndio maana aliwaachia mzigo mumswalie
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Thibitisha kauli yako aya ya hadith au qur an

Mtume alisamehewa dhambi zake zote na kumshwalia ni kwasababu ya mapenzi tulio nayo dhidi yake,

Yeye ni mtukufu wa daraj kuliko sisi, haingii akilini sisi ndio twahitaji zaidi kuombewa kwa mola kupitia yeye.
 
hiyo hoja ya falme za kusini na kaskazini kwenye danieli nilizisoma lakini sikuzielewa pia zime fupishwa hadi kwenye siku zile ambazo yesu atarudi ambapo siku hizo hazijafika bado lakini pia ukisoma vizuri utaona kuwa falme hizo zimetokea kwenye mgawanyo wa ufalme wa Alexandra (Greece) ambao ni ufalme ushapita kitambo alafu hapo hapo tunakuja kuona unabii huo unazungumzia kurudi kwa yesu yani siku ambazo hazijafika kwahiyo nimeshindwa kuzipangilia vizuri kwamba utawsla ulikuwa vipi kati ya kaskazini na kusini.

lakini unabii unasema falme hizo zilitokea kutoka kwa Alexandra (greece) na huyo Alexandra alichukua ufalme kutoka uyunani ( Persia) na huyo Persia alichukua ufalme kutoka babeli, ambapo falme hizi zote ziliunda dola la roma baadae ambao ni ufalme wa mwisho wa dunia kwa ushahidi ukisoma kitabu cha yohana utaona aliona mnyama mwenye viungo tofauti tofauti ambavyo ni chui, simba, dubu ambavyo kwenye danieli ni falme moja moja ambapo mnyama yule wa yohana mwenye viungo vya wanyama tofauti tofauti ni ufalme wa nne wa roma.
 
hamis77 said:
Kwamba unataka kusema maandiko mengine yanayomtambua Yesu ni Mungu huyataki?waislamu mna matatizo sana
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Matatizo yako kwenu,

Kumuita kwa tafsiri ya jina lake mungu pamoja nasi.

Bado hujajibu swali langu
 
Suhendra said:
Thibitisha kauli yako aya ya hadith au qur an

Mtume alisamehewa dhambi zake zote na kumshwalia ni kwasababu ya mapenzi tulio nayo dhidi yake,

Yeye ni mtukufu wa daraj kuliko sisi, haingii akilini sisi ndio twahitaji zaidi kuombewa kwa mola kupitia yeye.
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Biblia imechakachuliwa na walio bahatika kuwa nayo ile ya zamani pia wamedanganywa hawaoni hawa ielewi na ile iliyo chakachuliwa pia licha ya kuonekana kabisa kuwa ni copy and paste kila kitu mfano Quran ipo na kila kitu kutoka kwenye biblia watu pia hawaelewi wanaifuata wamechagua uongo
 
Suhendra said:
Matatizo yako kwenu,

Kumuita kwa tafsiri ya jina lake mungu pamoja nasi.

Bado hujajibu swali langu
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Huwez kunipangia sasa,mm siamini biblia kipande ,naamini yote ,yaani unataka nikudokolee kipande ,ila maandiko mengine hutaki si ndio

Hizi sio Hadith
 
Genius Man said:
Biblia imechakachuliwa na walio bahatika kuwa nayo ile ya zamani pia wamedanganywa hawaoni hawa ielewi na ile iliyo chakachuliwa pia licha ya kuonekana kabisa kuwa ni copy and paste kila kitu mfano Quran ipo na kila kitu kutoka kwenye biblia watu pia hawaelewi wanaifuata wamechagua uongo
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Leta hiyo ambayo haijachakachuliwa ,tujue wapi wamechakachukua

Ili tuache porojo na ngonjera
 
Genius Man said:
Biblia imechakachuliwa na walio bahatika kuwa nayo ile ya zamani pia wamedanganywa hawaoni hawa ielewi na ile iliyo chakachuliwa pia licha ya kuonekana kabisa kuwa ni copy and paste kila kitu mfano Quran ipo na kila kitu kutoka kwenye biblia watu pia hawaelewi wanaifuata wamechagua uongo
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Hakika nime muuliza swali futi kashindwa kujibu
 
hamis77 said:
Huwez kunipangia sasa,mm siamini biblia kipande ,naamini yote ,yaani unataka nikudokolee kipande ,ila maandiko mengine hutaki si ndio

Hizi sio Hadith
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Leta andiko linalo sema "Mimi ni mungu" awe amesema yesu mwenyewe
 
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