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DR Mambo Jambo said:

Uzani Upi Siku hizi kuna Digital measure hatutumii Spring tena

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How do you think digital beam balance works?

Eti? Wewe unahisi digital beam balance inapima vipi mass ama ni inaamua tu,
😂😂

Fanyeni kujoin kwenye hiyo link mtoe mavi ayo kichwani

abdulrahman Said said:

How do you think digital beam balance works?

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Thats Simple even My 17 years Old Grand children Can answer It..

"When an item is placed on a digital scale's weighing platform, the bending of the transducer beams causes a change in electrical resistance. The change in electrical resistance is measured by an Analog to Digital (A/D) Converter, which then relays the reading to the microcontroller via the unit's circuit board."

Exactly, and how do you suppose it can cause the beam to bend Mr doctor??

abdulrahman Said said:

Fanyeni kujoin kwenye hiyo link mtoe mavi ayo kichwani

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Usiite watu Mavi kwa Concepts Za Kisayansi ambazo zinaweza Kubadilika..

Theory Nyingi sana Zilikuwa Zinaaminika Ila baadae Zikawa Nullified na Void

DR Mambo Jambo said:

Usiite watu Mavi kwa Concepts Za Kisayansi ambazo zinaweza Kubadilika..

Theory Nyingi sana Zilikuwa Zinaaminika Ila baadae Zikawa Nullified na Void

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Nini maana ya theory? Tuanze hapo !
And how do you nullify a theory, is it by saying uliobserve kwa milango ya fahamu? 😂😂😂

Nimeweka meeting hakuna aliyejoin, I'll assume mna kazi mnafanya! I think tuarrange tena vzr kwa ratiba zenu kisha mnijulishe I'll gladly share my email

To DR Mambo Jambo
The only thing I can say, atleast you have some sense of maturity in the way you place your arguments and how you respond to the arguments and for that, I beg your pardon for my selection of words.
For all my dear flat eathers community in this thread, Let's continue with this discussion! I'll be happy to discuss this live

With Regards!

abdulrahman Said said:

Nini maana ya theory? Tuanze hapo !
And how do you nullify a theory, is it by saying uliobserve kwa milango ya fahamu? 😂😂😂

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Mimi Nataka Nikuelezee Concepts Nzima Mpaka Theory Inakuwa Theory.. Sio Nikupe Maana Ya Theory..

Firstly it started with Sense of experience, Our 5 senses provide raw sense of data. looks at the Newton examples on theories Gravitational Forces..

Sasa we Now have those Sense data but dont Forget that in itself data does not constitute knowledge.. Means that on see The apple falling newton hakusema tu anhaa Hili apple limedondoka Bhasi natengeneza theory kama Ulivyosema Kuhusu Huyo jamaa kuwa Kuona tu mti unamove bhasi unatengeneza Theory ya Mti

But Sense of Data Insteady it only provides the raw material which is converted into knowledge through the process of inference. For example, I hear the sound of my door bell and then infer that somebody has come to meet me. Here, the sense of hearing (ears) provided raw data of a particular type of sound while I am at home. My past experience stored in my memory is that when the door bell is pressed, it makes a sound inside home; and that only when someone wants to meet me, he would press the bell. Hence, I infer by hearing the sound of the bell that somebody has come to meet me.


mpaka Hapo Sijui Umenielewa...

sasa wewe Unachozungumzia Kwamba Unataka Mtu atoe Internal Experience Ziwe Daata Ili atengeneza Theory thats Not how Science works Kwanza Internal experience ni the direct awareness of an internal state of our consciousness. For example, my knowledge that I am thirsty is direct awareness of an internal state.

There is no sense data or inference involved in this knowledge.

Knowledge of all internal states of consciousness is direct.

hizo Theory hutokana na Inference Sasa Inference is a belief about objects of the world by using sense data or internal experiences.

It may also be made by drawing logical conclusions on the basis of previously formed beliefs. Sense experience (such as color or size) and internal experience (such as feeling of hunger or pain)– these are the only 2 primary sources of raw data.

The process of inference uses these raw data to arrive at a judgement about external objects or internal states.

Sasa Kama tulivyoona Hapo its All started with 5 Senses Then Raw material which is called Senses of data or sense data after Senses of data Then Awareness Which Is called Inference...

Sasa

Inference is the basis of all our knowledge including scientific knowledge.
This is also called reasoning.
(hapa kwenye Inference ndo mtu huanza Kujiuliza Hiki nini kwanini Kiko hivi kwanini jana Kilikuwa Hivi kwanini leo kiko hivi Huku ukikusanya Data)

after Inference Then Comes Belief you started to be beleive what cause your situation is Something but You are not sure for 100% And thats why its Called Belief.

A belief is a statement that something is the case without being 100% sure whether it is true or false,
but with a high probability of it being true.


Sasa Tuendelee Kwenye Utamu sasa..

Truth and Falsehood....

"We call a belief true, if the reality corresponds with what is declared to be the case. We call a belief false, if the reality does not correspond with what is declared to be the case"

Hapana Sijui Kama Umenielewa Toka Tumetoka huko Nyuma..

If the Reality from the Data Corresponding wells Ile Believe Tuliyoipata Tunasema Its True..

ila kama Reality Doesnt corresponding with Reality tunasema Belief Is false...

Na Hapo Ndo zinaibuka Kitu huitwa Facts and Knowledge..

FactandKnowledge..

When a belief is verified to be true,it is called a fact.

and Knowledge is a collection of facts.

Baada ya Kupata Collection of Facts Tunatengeneza Hypothesis..

A statement which seeks to explain a set of events,but has not yet been verified to be true,is called a hypothesis.

Then after Verified Hypothesis They we May call what you have been asked the Theory so hypothesis becomes a theory only after it has been verified to be true in a large number of cases of observation and experiment or it has not been falsified Yet.

Nakuongezea Na Ziada Kuhusu Law na Principle

Law’ is an older form of expression of ‘theory’ recall Newton’s law of gravitation vs. Einstein’s theory of relativity.

‘Principle’ too is an older expression of ‘theory’, as for example, Archimedes’ Principle.

Sasa Belief zisipo kuwa Verified zikiwa Nyingi Zinatengeneza Doctrine kama wewe Unavyoamini Dunia Duara Ila Huwezi kuthibitisha zaidi ya Kutegemea Mtu mwingine Akuambie Kitu ambacho wewe Hunakithibitisha

Sasa Doctrine is a belief about a natural event or some desirable action developed by special groups such as religions, political entities, governments, private organizations etc. It is believed to be true/good and has the full authority of the institutions that have developed it.

So Nafikiri Nimejibu swali lako na Extra Miles

Now we're talking!
Firstly, hakuna sehemu nimesema theory inatokana na data like pictures n.k, nakubaliana moja kwa moja kwamba lazima tuanze kuobserve with our sense organs sijapinga hilo nilichopinga ni kuweka conclusion kutokana na ulichokiobserve kwa sense organs like eyes, ears etc nikatoa example kwa uyo jamaa. Anasema ameconclude dunia ni flat na haimove kwasababu hapa alipo ameona haimove na ni flat nikamuuliza tukuweke ndani ya boksi huwezi kuona nje alafu lirushwe kwenye space liende at constant speed utaweza kujuwa kama unamove ingali upo ndani ya boksi? Je, utaweza kuconclude kusema kwamba haumove simply kwasababu mule ndani ya boksi wewe haumove?
The thing is, maybe you inside the box are not moving but the whole system of you and the box is moving How could you simply say si move kwasababu tu wewe ndani ya boksi haumove???
Nikauliza kuhusu chungwa, Luckily I held an orange mkononi mwangu jana nikajaribu kuziba jua na chungwa langu liliweza kuliziba jua lote, naweza kuhitimisfha kama chungwa langu ni kubwa kuliko jua???

sasa wewe Unachozungumzia Kwamba Unataka Mtu atoe Internal Experience Ziwe Daata Ili atengeneza Theory thats Not how Science works Kwanza Internal experience ni the direct awareness of an internal state of our consciousness. For example, my knowledge that I am thirsty is direct awareness of an internal state ,
I don't remember saying this, na siwezi kusema kitu kama hiki. Pitia comments zangu vizuri ambapo hujanielewa ntakuelewesha.

Nakubaliana na wewe kabisa unaposema theory zinatokana na what we observe with our sense and based on previous knowledge (not belief) ukisema belief unaenda vitu vyengine. However nakataa conclusion yako on how theories are formulated. After observing the happening in nature and hypothesizing the theory based on laws of nature the next is to perform experiments and Mathematical analysis to test the theory sio tu kuishia hapo kutokana ma watu wa nyuma waliamini basi na sisi tutaamini.
Ntakupa mfano atomic theory, Thomson alibelieve kwamba atom is entirely positive with negative charge embedded on it but Rutherford alikuja kufanya experiment by bombarding a beam of positive helium kwenye gold atom, aliexpect beam iwe reflected as atom was entirely believed to be positive but the result of the experiment nullified the theory. After careful study and analysis akatoa theory nyingine about atoms

Ndo mana nikasema, while laws and principlas are always true but theories can only be true to some extent ndo mana zinaweza kuwa replaced by more efficient theory, kwanini theory zinaweza kuwa false! Kwenye Engineering sisi tunakitu tunaita modeling, tukitaka kudesign a model to represent a real world phenomenon mfano chuma, ama movement ya upepo tunatengeneza mathematical model kwa kuzingatia different conditions zinazoweza kutokea sasa the accuracy inadepend vitu vipi umeinclude na vipi hujainclude, kadri unavyoinclude vitu vingi ndo accuracy inaongezeka. It is difficult to model every thing and for simplicity tunapunguzaga baadhi ya vitu au unfortunately tunasahau kumbe kile kina effect nyingi zaidi

Mfano. Unakuta mtu kadesign model ya resistance lakini hajaweka temperature effect, maybe alisahau
Inawork vizuri tu ila with temperature changes sasa inaanza kwenda tofauti na nature. That's how kwenye physics pia sisi tunaformulate theories. I believe Engineering is a closest application of physics so does my example

abdulrahman Said said:

To DR Mambo Jambo
The only thing I can say, atleast you have some sense of maturity in the way you place your arguments and how you respond to the arguments and for that, I beg your pardon for my selection of words.
For all my dear flat eathers community in this thread, Let's continue with this discussion! I'll be happy to discuss this live

With Regards!

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Kumbe unajua kwamba kuongea maneno ya hovyo ni alama ya immaturity.....kama una uhakika na hoja zako haina haja ya kutumia maneno yasiyoweza kutoka kutoka kwa mtu mwerevu,... Weka hoja na facts mezani kisha tulia maana kuita watu idiots, imbecile n.k hakuthibitishi kwa namna yoyote ile kwamba Dunia ni tufe linalozunguka,....

abdulrahman Said said:

Sio ndege tu, hata wewe hapo ulipo unamove along with the earth.

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Unaweza kuthibitisha au ni mawazo yako tu?


Kinachotakiwa ni uthibitisho tu,.ili uonekane unasema kweli,.. is that too much to ask?

abdulrahman Said said:

Natengeneza meeting, ntatuma link humu !
Usitoke online na kwa yeyote atakayetaka pia atajoin kwenye huu mdahalo

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Ili iwe convenience nadhani ungetuma message ya kuwaalika wadau kwamba tarehe na muda fulani kutakua na mdahalo wa mada husika,..then unaweka Link atakae kuwa interested atajiunga.🤝🏻

DR Mambo Jambo said:

Sasa Belief zisipo kuwa Verified zikiwa Nyingi Zinatengeneza Doctrine kama wewe Unavyoamini Dunia Duara Ila Huwezi kuthibitisha zaidi ya Kutegemea Mtu mwingine Akuambie Kitu ambacho wewe Hunakithibitisha.

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Safi umemfafanulia vizuri zaidi,..... abdulrahman Said unakubali kwamba wewe huwezi kuthibitisha Dunia ni tufe linalozunguka bila kutegemea mtu mwingine akuambie kama asemavyo DR Mambo Jambo hapo juu?

NB:- Unfortunately hata huyo anaekuambia pia hawezi kuthibitisha zaidi ya kumtegemea mwingine and that goes to infinity...

abdulrahman Said said:

Now we're talking!
Firstly, hakuna sehemu nimesema theory inatokana na data like pictures n.k, nakubaliana moja kwa moja kwamba lazima tuanze kuobserve with our sense organs sijapinga hilo nilichopinga ni kuweka conclusion kutokana na ulichokiobserve kwa sense organs like eyes, ears etc nikatoa example kwa uyo jamaa. Anasema ameconclude dunia ni flat na haimove kwasababu hapa alipo ameona haimove na ni flat nikamuuliza tukuweke ndani ya boksi huwezi kuona nje alafu lirushwe kwenye space liende at constant speed utaweza kujuwa kama unamove ingali upo ndani ya boksi? Je, utaweza kuconclude kusema kwamba haumove simply kwasababu mule ndani ya boksi wewe haumove?
The thing is, maybe you inside the box are not moving but the whole system of you and the box is moving How could you simply say si move kwasababu tu wewe ndani ya boksi haumove???
Nikauliza kuhusu chungwa, Luckily I held an orange mkononi mwangu jana nikajaribu kuziba jua na chungwa langu liliweza kuliziba jua lote, naweza kuhitimisfha kama chungwa langu ni kubwa kuliko jua???

sasa wewe Unachozungumzia Kwamba Unataka Mtu atoe Internal Experience Ziwe Daata Ili atengeneza Theory thats Not how Science works Kwanza Internal experience ni the direct awareness of an internal state of our consciousness. For example, my knowledge that I am thirsty is direct awareness of an internal state ,
I don't remember saying this, na siwezi kusema kitu kama hiki. Pitia comments zangu vizuri ambapo hujanielewa ntakuelewesha.

Nakubaliana na wewe kabisa unaposema theory zinatokana na what we observe with our sense and based on previous knowledge (not belief) ukisema belief unaenda vitu vyengine. However nakataa conclusion yako on how theories are formulated. After observing the happening in nature and hypothesizing the theory based on laws of nature the next is to perform experiments and Mathematical analysis to test the theory sio tu kuishia hapo kutokana ma watu wa nyuma waliamini basi na sisi tutaamini.
Ntakupa mfano atomic theory, Thomson alibelieve kwamba atom is entirely positive with negative charge embedded on it but Rutherford alikuja kufanya experiment by bombarding a beam of positive helium kwenye gold atom, aliexpect beam iwe reflected as atom was entirely believed to be positive but the result of the experiment nullified the theory. After careful study and analysis akatoa theory nyingine about atoms

Ndo mana nikasema, while laws and principlas are always true but theories can only be true to some extent ndo mana zinaweza kuwa replaced by more efficient theory, kwanini theory zinaweza kuwa false! Kwenye Engineering sisi tunakitu tunaita modeling, tukitaka kudesign a model to represent a real world phenomenon mfano chuma, ama movement ya upepo tunatengeneza mathematical model kwa kuzingatia different conditions zinazoweza kutokea sasa the accuracy inadepend vitu vipi umeinclude na vipi hujainclude, kadri unavyoinclude vitu vingi ndo accuracy inaongezeka. It is difficult to model every thing and for simplicity tunapunguzaga baadhi ya vitu au unfortunately tunasahau kumbe kile kina effect nyingi zaidi

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Kwanza Kabisa Umekosea Kutumia Mfano wa Kuingizwa Kwenye Boksi Kama Njia ya Kujitetea Wanaotuambia Dunia Duara hawatuambii Kuwa Tumo Ndani ya Dunia Bali tumo Nje ya Dunia Imagine umewekwa Juu Train Ya Mwendokasi Inayokimbia 2000 Km/s Ni lazima Utahisi Misukumo na Mitikisimo Regardless ya Uzito ulionao..

abdulrahman Said said:

Now we're talking!
Firstly, hakuna sehemu nimesema theory inatokana na data like pictures n.k, nakubaliana moja kwa moja kwamba lazima tuanze kuobserve with our sense organs sijapinga hilo nilichopinga ni kuweka conclusion kutokana na ulichokiobserve kwa sense organs like eyes, ears etc nikatoa example kwa uyo jamaa. Anasema ameconclude dunia ni flat na haimove kwasababu hapa alipo ameona haimove na ni flat nikamuuliza tukuweke ndani ya boksi huwezi kuona nje alafu lirushwe kwenye space liende at constant speed utaweza kujuwa kama unamove ingali upo ndani ya boksi? Je, utaweza kuconclude kusema kwamba haumove simply kwasababu mule ndani ya boksi wewe haumove?
The thing is, maybe you inside the box are not moving but the whole system of you and the box is moving How could you simply say si move kwasababu tu wewe ndani ya boksi haumove???
Nikauliza kuhusu chungwa, Luckily I held an orange mkononi mwangu jana nikajaribu kuziba jua na chungwa langu liliweza kuliziba jua lote, naweza kuhitimisfha kama chungwa langu ni kubwa kuliko jua???

sasa wewe Unachozungumzia Kwamba Unataka Mtu atoe Internal Experience Ziwe Daata Ili atengeneza Theory thats Not how Science works Kwanza Internal experience ni the direct awareness of an internal state of our consciousness. For example, my knowledge that I am thirsty is direct awareness of an internal state ,
I don't remember saying this, na siwezi kusema kitu kama hiki. Pitia comments zangu vizuri ambapo hujanielewa ntakuelewesha.

Nakubaliana na wewe kabisa unaposema theory zinatokana na what we observe with our sense and based on previous knowledge (not belief) ukisema belief unaenda vitu vyengine. However nakataa conclusion yako on how theories are formulated. After observing the happening in nature and hypothesizing the theory based on laws of nature the next is to perform experiments and Mathematical analysis to test the theory sio tu kuishia hapo kutokana ma watu wa nyuma waliamini basi na sisi tutaamini.
Ntakupa mfano atomic theory, Thomson alibelieve kwamba atom is entirely positive with negative charge embedded on it but Rutherford alikuja kufanya experiment by bombarding a beam of positive helium kwenye gold atom, aliexpect beam iwe reflected as atom was entirely believed to be positive but the result of the experiment nullified the theory. After careful study and analysis akatoa theory nyingine about atoms

Ndo mana nikasema, while laws and principlas are always true but theories can only be true to some extent ndo mana zinaweza kuwa replaced by more efficient theory, kwanini theory zinaweza kuwa false! Kwenye Engineering sisi tunakitu tunaita modeling, tukitaka kudesign a model to represent a real world phenomenon mfano chuma, ama movement ya upepo tunatengeneza mathematical model kwa kuzingatia different conditions zinazoweza kutokea sasa the accuracy inadepend vitu vipi umeinclude na vipi hujainclude, kadri unavyoinclude vitu vingi ndo accuracy inaongezeka. It is difficult to model every thing and for simplicity tunapunguzaga baadhi ya vitu au unfortunately tunasahau kumbe kile kina effect nyingi zaidi

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So Kumbe Unaamini Kwamba Theory can Be Nulified or Rectified?

Unaposema Kuwa Science haiwezi kuongozwa na Internal awareness au Inference au Belief Nakushangaa..

Science Used to Factualise Believe through Hypothesis..

Kingine kuna Model Zingine Huwa zinaumbwa Kutoka from No where Bila Kushirikisha Milango ya Fahamu yoyote..

Hebu niambie Ni nani amewahi Kufika Liliko Jua ( Mbona tunajua mpaka Kilomita Lilipo Exactly na Pia Nani kafika Sayri zingine Ukiacha Dunia??

Mbona Tunajua Mpka Temperature zake??
Hebu niambie Tuliwahi Kuzipima??
Tulizipima Lini?
Au Tulitumia Hisia Na Belief tu??

Halafu abdulrahman Said hujawahi kunijibu Swali langu Nitarudia Tena..

Msingi wa Swali langu
Picha za Nasa Zinazo Onyesha Dunia ni Duara Zinaonyesha Ramani, tena kwa bahati mbaya kabisa Ramani ambayo imekuwa Projected Mwaka 1594, Ikiitwa "The Mercator Projection" . Ambayo Imetengenezwa na Gerardus Mercator..

Sasa Unashangaa Gerardus Mercator Mwaka huo kipindi anachora Ramani hakwenda mwezini wala Kwenye jua na wala Hakukuwa na Advance Technology na Alichora Hiyo Ramani tunayotumia Mpaka leo..

Cha Kushangaza Nasa Imeanzishwa July 29, 1958..
Ila wanatumia Ramani ya Gerardus mercator ya mwka 1594 ambaye Kipindi anaichora Hakukuwa na Ndege wala Helcopter (Maana ndege imegunduliwa mwaka 1903 na Wright brothers na wakati Huo ikiitwa Wright Flyer, Na bila kusahau Rocket ya Kwanza Imezinduliwa Mwaka 1926 na Robert H. Goddard...)
Ikumbukwe hata Sattelite ya Kwanza inasadikiwa Kurushwa October 4, 1957, iliyokuwa Ikiitwa Sputnik I

Sasa Hebu niambie huyo Mzee wa Kwanza kuchora Dunia Kwa Umbo la Duara Yeye Alikuwa Amekaa Wapi wakati hakukuwa na vifaa vyovyote vya Kuthibitisha Madai yake

Na NASA ambao Wanatumia Vifaa (Kama wanavyojinasibu) umewahi kuona Ramani nyingine ikiikosoa Ramani ya Mercator Projection hata kwa Longitudinal tu au Latitude?


Nimemaliza Swali Langu

hateeb10 said:

Unaweza kuthibitisha au ni mawazo yako tu?


Kinachotakiwa ni uthibitisho tu,.ili uonekane unasema kweli,.. is that too much to ask?

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Huna hoja! Jaribu kufikilia utaelewa mfano kwasasa ntaendelea na DR Mambo Jambo