Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

triga said:
Wataalamu wa mambo ya nuclear kwa utaalamu wao wanatuambia nuclear ni hatari wewe ambaye hatujui kama una utaalamu wowote kwenye mambo hayo unapinga! Ajabu!!!

Unapinga tafiti za kitaalamu kwa kutumia hisia zako mkuu.

Bw. Alex wellerstein mtaalamu wa masuala ya nuclear (Nuclear Historian) ametengeneza website ya 'Nukemap' inayoweza kuruhusu mtumiaji adondoshe bomu fulani la nyuklia kwenye mji fulani ili aweze kujionea mwenyewe madhara yanaweza kuwaje kuanzia vifo, majerui, uharibifu wa majengo/miundombinu/mazingira, madhara ya mionzi, fallouts nk. Unaweza mwenyewe kuingia hapo ujionee. Bomu dogo la kt 140 lililojaribiwa na NK 2017 linaweza kuathiri eneo la ukubwa wa mile za mraba 134 na kuua na kujeruhi zaidi ya watu 700k

Na kinachotishia zaidi kuhusu vita vya nyuklia wala hata sio milipuko yenyewe hasa bali ni madhara ya muda mrefu ambayo huja baadae vikishapiganwa vita vya Nuclear. Wataalamu wa masuala ya nyuklia na wanasayansi mbalimbali wametafiti kuhusu hili na wamekuja na majibu kadhaa wa kadhaa.
Mfano. Profesa wa mazingira wa chuo cha rutgers bwana alan robock ametafiti kuhusu yanayoweza kuwa madhara ya muda mrefu ya 'vita vya nyuklia' duniani kwa kuzingatia models tofauti za uchumi, sayansi na agriculture.

Miji na majiji yaliyoathirika na vita vya nyuklia kwa kuunguzwa yatasababisha moshi mweusi ambao unaweza kupanda mpaka kwenye level ya stratosphere na kuathiri kiwango cha joto na mvua duniani. Tani milioni 5 mpaka 50 ya huu moshi utaleta kitu wanaita 'nuclear autumn' na ikiwa ni tani milioni 50 mpaka 150 basi 'nuclear winter'.

Nuclear Autumn
Pakistani na India (ambao hawana idadi kubwa ya silaha za nyuklia) endapo kutazuka vita vya nyuklia baina yao wanaweza kupelekea nuclear autumn. Km kila mmoja akimpiga mwenzake na mabomu at list 50 ya size ya yale ya hiroshima basi moshi mweuisi unaotokana na kuungua vitu na miji unakadiriwa kufikia tani milioni 5 mpaka 6. Huu moshi ukifika juu unazuia miale ya jua kufika duniani kwa kiasi kikubwa baadae inapelekea kushuka kwa joto na hivyo less precipitation. Ndani ya miaka mi5 ya kwanza itaathiri zaidi ya 40% ya kilimo duniani kote na kufikia miaka 10 joto duniani litashuka zaidi na kufikia level ya chini zaidi kuwahi kushuhudiwa ndani ya miaka 1000 ilopita.
Watu bilioni 2 wanaweza kufa kwa njaa. Imagine hiyo ni vita tu dhidi ya Pakistani na India kama ikihusisha nuclear.

A. Ward kutoka mtandaoni


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Mwanamkiwi said:
Kumbe kwenye mashambulio dhidi ya kituo cha treni Kramatorsk, Warusi walitumia mabomu ya kulenga watu (cluster bombs) ambayo yanapasuka hewani na kumwaga vipande vidogovodogo. Hii ni sababu watazamaji hapa walishngaa hawakuona mashimo makubwa kwenye picha. -- Ni uthibitisho kwamba maelezo ya Warusi hayana msingi eti Ukraine ilitaka kuzuia watu raia wasikimbie ili wapatikane kama ngao za kibinadamu. Ukitumia mabomu ya cluster, unataka kuua wengi,, si kuzuia usafiri maana unamaliza ngao zako. Tendo hili linahitaji kuchunguliwa kama ni jinai ya vita.

Russian troops attacked a packed railway station in eastern Ukraine Friday morning and dozens were feared dead.

At least 39 people were killed, according to the regional governor. More than 100 were also hurt in the attack, Ukraine's Ministry of Defense said.

"Russians carried out two missile strikes on railway station in Kramatorsk, where evacuation of civilians was taking place," the Ministry tweeted. "But Russian war criminals not only deliberately targeted thousands of people; they've used cluster munitions. More than 30 killed, more that 100 injured."
Chanzo: Russia attack on train station in eastern Kramatorsk leaves dozens dead, officials say
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Najua unapata wakati mgumu kupata taarifa za ùkweli juu ya masuala yanauoendelea Ukraine. Taarifa zilizopo nikuwa Ukraine imepiga kituo hicho cha traini ili kuzuia wananchi wa maeneo hayo wasikimbie wabaki hapo ili waje kutumika kama ngao kama walivyofanyiwa wananchi wa Mariopol. Na sehemu bomu lilipotoka kwa ajili ya kuua raia wasio na hatia pamejulikana.

Tusichoshane jisomee mwenyewe.
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UPD: The Russian Ministry of Defence commented on the attack of the AFU on civilians in Kramatorsk, denying all the Kiev’s accusations against Russian forces. Here are some details shared by the Russian MoD:

” In order to accuse Russia of an alleged missile strike on the Kramatorsk railway station, the Kiev regime has shared photos of the Tochka-U launchers that took part in the Russian-Belarusian exercise “Allied Resolve-2022” in February 2022 on social networks. Pay your attention that all photos published by Kiev of the exercises “Allied Resolve-2022” do not depict Russian missile systems.

According to updated data, the attack on the Kramatorsk railway station was carried out by a missile division of the Ukrainian armed forces from the area of the settlement of Dobropillya 45 kilometers southwest of the city.

The aim of the Kiev regime’s strike on the station in Kramatorsk was to disrupt the mass departure of residents from the city in order to use them as a “human shield” to defend the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as in many other settlements of Ukraine.

In his turn DPR Representative Basurin claimed that during the attack on Kramatorsk, the Ukrainian military used a Tochka-U missile equipped with a cluster warhead, about 30 people were killed, about 100 were injured.


Source: SF.com
 
TUJITEGEMEE said:
Najua unapata wakati mgumu kupata taarifa za ùkweli juu ya masuala yanauoendelea Ukraine. Taarifa zilizopo nikuwa Ukraine imepiga kituo hicho cha traini ili kuzuia wananchi wa maeneo hayo wasikimbie wabaki hapo ili waje kutumika kama ngao kama walivyofanyiwa wananchi wa Mariopol. Na sehemu bomu lilipotoka kwa ajili ya kuua raia wasio na hatia pamejulikana.

Tusichoshane jisomee mwenyewe.
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UPD: The Russian Ministry of Defence commented on the attack of the AFU on civilians in Kramatorsk, denying all the Kiev’s accusations against Russian forces. Here are some details shared by the Russian MoD:

” In order to accuse Russia of an alleged missile strike on the Kramatorsk railway station, the Kiev regime has shared photos of the Tochka-U launchers that took part in the Russian-Belarusian exercise “Allied Resolve-2022” in February 2022 on social networks. Pay your attention that all photos published by Kiev of the exercises “Allied Resolve-2022” do not depict Russian missile systems.

According to updated data, the attack on the Kramatorsk railway station was carried out by a missile division of the Ukrainian armed forces from the area of the settlement of Dobropillya 45 kilometers southwest of the city.

The aim of the Kiev regime’s strike on the station in Kramatorsk was to disrupt the mass departure of residents from the city in order to use them as a “human shield” to defend the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as in many other settlements of Ukraine.

In his turn DPR Representative Basurin claimed that during the attack on Kramatorsk, the Ukrainian military used a Tochka-U missile equipped with a cluster warhead, about 30 people were killed, about 100 were injured.


Source: SF.com
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Stupid logic, kama wangetaka wasiondoke wange haribu treni ambazo ziko mikononi mwao.
 
Yani mtu alipue watu wake kisa na maana wasiondoke, hii inaingia akilini kweli. Punguzeni ushabiki.
Kuna mbinu nyingi za kuzuia watu wasiondoke ila kuwalipua halipo kabisa
 
Coco reborn said:
Stupid logic, kama wangetaka wasiondoke wange haribu treni ambazo ziko mikononi mwao.
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Pole sana, ushetani wao ndivyo, unavyowatuma. Yaani kama walikuwa na ujasiri wa kuuwa watoto na wanawake kuwatisha wengine wasitoke kwenye maeneo wanayodhibiti wataona ugumu gani kulipua vyuma vinavyounda traini visivyo na roho!!! Sasa tuanze hapa lojiki yakipuuzi kupuuza kuunganisha nukuta hizi tuiamishie kwa nani, mkuu?
 
Britain will send £100 million worth of weapons to Ukraine, including Starstreak air defense systems, Johnson said.
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UNESCO refused to proclaim the World Day of the Russian Language.

This was reported in the social networks of the Russian permanent mission in the organization.

Consideration of the issue was held today at the headquarters of UNESCO in Paris. Our representatives called this decision “a blow to multilingualism”.

The day before, Maria @MariaVladimirovnaZakharova Zakharova expressed her hope that the vote would not be politicized and the culture of abolishing the Russian would not affect the Russian initiative
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lee van cliff said:
Russian Ministry of defence
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Si hekima sana kuuliza wizara ya Urusi kuhusu hatma ya jeshi lake. Lazima watasema yote sawa. Vivyo hivyo usiuliza wizara ya Ukraine kuhusu hatma ya jeshi lake. Waliona vema kutotaja vifo vyao. Wakati wa vita waongo kila upande. Ni sehemu yake
Ila ule msafara wa magari ya Urusi ulikwenda vibaya. Ukiacha foleni ya magari kwa zaidi ya wiki porini (pasipo na nafasi kuondoka kushoto au kulia) utapoteza mengi. Pia hakika hawakufika walipolenga. Walilenga Kyiv.
Mabaki yaliweza kukimbia.
 
NYUNDO YA MOTO said:
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Si kweli. Takriban robo moja ya raia wa Ukraine wana Kirusi kama lugha ya kwanza, pamoja na rais Zelenyky. Wengi wanaongea lugha zote mbili. Mji kama Kharkiv ni hasa wasemaji wa Kirusi . Wanajitetea dhidi ya jeshi la Putin hadi leo maana ni Waukraine wenye lugha ya Kirusi.
 
Coco reborn said:
Yani mtu alipue watu wake kisa na maana wasiondoke, hii inaingia akilini kweli. Punguzeni ushabiki.
Kuna mbinu nyingi za kuzuia watu wasiondoke ila kuwalipua halipo kabisa
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Mtaongea kila aina maneno lakini hamuwezi kubadilisha ukweli.

Hili shambulizi limefanywa na Ukraine aidha kwa bahati mbaya au kwa makusudi ili kuendeza vita vyao vya kipropaganda ya kwamba Urusi inauwa raia.

Urusi imeonesha ushahidi mpaka kombora lilipo tokea lilifyatuliwa kutoka upande ambapo kuna wanajeshi wa Ukraine.

Na kombora kama hili Ukraine ilisha litumia kwenye mji wa Donesk unao dhibitiwa na waasi wanao ungwa mkono na Urusi na kuuwa watu 22.

Mara ya kwanza vyombo vya habari kama kawaida yao walikuwa wameituhumu Urusi lakini sasa hivi wamebadilika wanasema haijulikani ni nani aliye fanya shambulizi.
 
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