Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[Cash Generating Unit]

Russia had sent an ultimatum to the Office of the President of Ukraine that if the surrender of Azovstal was not agreed, the plant would be razed to the ground with vacume bombs. Everyone will be buried alive, and the choice of what to do is up to Zelensky.

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

Umeongea kwa upole sana mpaka nimejisikia vibaya. Pole ndio vita zilivyo lakini.

Anakudanganya TU huyo wanashinda mbona?

 

[Nyamizi]

Urusi labda afute kabisa Ukraine isiwepo duniani, kinyume na hapo awamu itakayofuata ni awamu za kisasi kutoka vikundi vidogo vidogo miaka ya mbeleni maana masalia yatatengeneza vikundi adui wa Urusi, watu wa Ukraine wameonyesha msimamo na mapenzi kwa nchi yao. Ukiwaacha wanajeshi masalia kuna uwezekano kukaibuka vikundi vya kulipiza kisasi huko mbeleni. Vitakuwa vikundi vya kigaidi kwa Urusi.

Upo sahihi kabisa,hili balaa kajitengenezea mwenyewe na hatokaa atulie kamwe.Watamsumbua sana,Putin anakuja kuwaachia matatizo watakaofuatia baada yake kutawala Russia.

 

[Bwana Utam]

Kwa maoni yangu Ukraine Hawana tena cha kupoteza. Waendelee kusimama na msimamo wao.

Hawana eeeeeeeh
Kuna muda kupigana kusiko maana hakuna faida UKRAINE wangekubali kuwa wanyonge kuliko huu utoto waloufanya

 

[triga]

Kwa maoni yangu Ukraine Hawana tena cha kupoteza. Waendelee kusimama na msimamo wao.

Wanacho cha kupoteza.

Roho zao na ardhi (sehemu) ya nchi yao. Thats a lot to loose man!

Mpk sasa hv kuna wakimbizi zaidi ya milioni nne kutoka ukraine, raia waliokufa ni maelfu, wanajeshi waliokufa ni maelfu, miundombinu iliyoharibiwa ya kiraia na kijeshi ni maelfu.

Endapo wataendelea na vita watapoteza maeneo mengi sana masahariki, kz na ks kuna possibility nchi yao ikabaki land locked. Idadi ya wakimbizi itaendelea kupanda halkadhalika vifo na majeruhi na hiyo sehemu waliyobaki nayo itaharibiwa vibaya. Wakiamua kusimamisha vita na kurudi mezani na kukubaliana na matakwa ya bwana putin hayo yanaweza kuepukika. Ni suala la kupiga mahesabu tu.

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[babu na mjukuu]

Baada ya kutawala,nini cha maana anaambulia,au kuharibu majengo.Maumivu ya kuzamishwa ile meli hayaelezeki kwa Putin na hatokaa asahau mpaka anarudi kwa muumba wake.

Tatizo wenye roho za kishetani,wamagharibi wao huthamini zaidi vitu kuliko utu. Yaani Urusi aumie kiasi hicho kisa meli moja!!!

Kwa akili zako umeona imemuathiri nini kwenye mashambulizi yake?

Mwenye hasara ambayo hamtaisahau lau mngekuwa na ubinadamu ni nyie kupoteza wanajeshi zaidi ya 1000 waliojisalimisha huku wakiwa hawajui nini watafanywa!!
Hivi huo mnaemwita kichaa angeamua kuwatwanga risasi wote au wabakwe bila vilainishi mngefanyaje!?

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[Ngungenge]

Kitu nina uhakika nacho putin ni lazima afe

 

[Tsh]

Hawana eeeeeeeh
Kuna muda kupigana kusiko maana hakuna faida UKRAINE wangekubali kuwa wanyonge kuliko huu utoto waloufanya

Kama ni kukubali unyonge ilitakiwa pale mwanzoni kabisa wakati wameambiwa waweke silaha chini warudi nyumbani.

Wao kama nchi waliamua hapana, huyu mtu pamoja na kuwa ametuzidi na kila kitu hatutamgeuzia mgongo tumwachie nchi, tutamwangalia na kupigana naye.

Huo si Utoto ni maamuzi ya raisi na nchi nzima ikakubaliana naye. Kama wananchi wasingekubali wangemtoa madarakani raisi wao.

Ni sahihi wakifa wote maana walijua linalokuja kuwapata na wakaona lina unafuu kuliko hili unalopendekeza wewe.

 

[Galip Veryl]

Kitu nina uhakika nacho putin ni lazima afe

Kama wewe ambavyo lazima ukufe tu... That's nature law...

 

[Cash Generating Unit]

Kitu nina uhakika nacho putin ni lazima afe

Huu mwamba wa chuma upon sana mpaka dunia iwe multipolair ndo utaondoka ila upo sana.

 

[babu na mjukuu]

Urusi labda afute kabisa Ukraine isiwepo duniani, kinyume na hapo awamu itakayofuata ni awamu za kisasi kutoka vikundi vidogo vidogo miaka ya mbeleni maana masalia yatatengeneza vikundi adui wa Urusi, watu wa Ukraine wameonyesha msimamo na mapenzi kwa nchi yao. Ukiwaacha wanajeshi masalia kuna uwezekano kukaibuka vikundi vya kulipiza kisasi huko mbeleni. Vitakuwa vikundi vya kigaidi kwa Urusi.

Hayo ni maneno ya kujipa moyo. Russia sio Marekani. Inayopambana na ugaidi miaka na miaka. Ukitaka kujua Russia ni nani waulize IS. Putin alishajipa kazi ya kuwapeleka kwa Mungu watu kama hao unaowasema

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[HIMARS]

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Hao defenders wamejitahidi sana kuushikiria huo mji

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[HIMARS]

Hivi Ukraine inasubiri nini kutuma ujumbe mzito Kremlin? Cruise missile moja tu inatosha kumzibua masikio Vladimir.

Hawana

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[Bwana Utam]

Hivi Ukraine inasubiri nini kutuma ujumbe mzito Kremlin? Cruise missile moja tu inatosha kumzibua masikio Vladimir.

Bila ya Coward NATO kufanya hilo liwezekane basi sahau MKUU
Ila mbaya zaidi NATO wanaogopa

 

[Tsh]

Wanacho cha kupoteza.

Roho zao na ardhi (sehemu) ya nchi yao. Thats a lot to loose man!

Mpk sasa hv kuna wakimbizi zaidi ya milioni nne kutoka ukraine, raia waliokufa ni maelfu, wanajeshi waliokufa ni maelfu, miundombinu iliyoharibiwa ya kiraia na kijeshi ni maelfu.

Endapo wataendelea na vita watapoteza maeneo mengi sana masahariki, kz na ks kuna possibility nchi yao ikabaki land locked. Idadi ya wakimbizi itaendelea kupanda halkadhalika vifo na majeruhi na hiyo sehemu waliyobaki nayo itaharibiwa vibaya. Wakiamua kusimamisha vita na kurudi mezani na kukubaliana na matakwa ya bwana putin hayo yanaweza kuepukika. Ni suala la kupiga mahesabu tu.

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Kurudi mezani na kumpigia magoti Urusi sio option yenye manufaa kwa raisi wa Ukraine

Vipi kuhusu wanajeshi wako uliowaambia tukapigane na sasa wamekufa?

Raia wako waliobeba silaha na sasa wamekufa?

Utawaambia raia waliobaki nini? Kuwa vifo vyao ni for nothing? Watakuelewa?, si tulikubaliana tunaingia vitani huku tukijua adui ni Urusi na ana mabomu makubwa makubwa? Tukakubali tufe tukitetea msimamo wetu? Iwaje leo ndugu zetu wamekufa halafu unabadilisha msimamo sababu ya maslahi ya uhai wako wewe? Uhai wako unathamani kuliko wengine waliosimama na wewe na kumkabili Urusi?

Akipiga magoti anaweza tengeneza uadui mkubwa na raia wake waliopoteza ndugu na rafiki kuliko akisimama na jeshi lake wakapigana mpaka mwisho.

 

[Sigonella Island]

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[President of China]

 

[PakavuNateleza]

Hao defenders wamejitahidi sana kuushikiria huo mji

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Kuushikilia mji wakiwa mapangoni? Acha mzaha wewe

 

[President of China]

Up to 400 foreign mercenaries are now surrounded on the territory of Azovstal as part of the Ukrainian group - Russian Defense Ministry

Earlier, the department offered them to surrender and guaranteed their lives. But Kyiv does not allow the nationalists to lay down their arms.

 

[President of China]

⚡️ Kyiv forbade negotiations on surrender.

This was reported by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

The Nazis of "Azov" were ordered to shoot anyone who wanted to lay down their arms.