Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[babu na mjukuu]

Unapenda sana kutaja habari za rainbow utakuwa unashikishwa ukuta bila shaka.

Wewe unaependa kukashfu dini na imani za wengine huwa wanakufanya nini hadi uhisi raha hivyo!?
Kiasi cha kutukana imani za yeyote anaewakataa hao waeneza ushoga..!!!?

 

[Proved]

Prove me wrong kwa fact acha bla blaaa
Panua ubongo huo usiiishi kwa kukariri walikua wakina kaisari, napoleon, pharaoh, genghis, hitler wamepita na fahari zao zimebaki history kama ilivyo US inavyoenda kuwa zilipendwa.

Endelea kusubiri..

 

[Bwana Utam]

Urusi hashing jipe moyo ,hakuna nchi iliyovamia nchi nyungine ikashinda kwa kuichukua sehemu au kuwalazimisha kufuata wanachotaka.Nitajie ,hiyo Israel tu cha moto wanakiona.Kukubwa watawavuruga but in the long run bado Urusi haiwezi kuchukua hayo maeneo

Yataenda kama CRIMEA
ISRAEL wale wavamizi rasmi ila UKRAINE na RUSSIA ndugu

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[Mtoto wa nzi]

mpaka leo hii ukraine anatumia visilaha vya kuokoteza lakini bado mmeshindwa ku control angalau 80% je tukianza kumpa midege yetu ya F-35 jumlisha patriot moscow akutakalika nawaambia pro russia

SI mumpe ...... Sasa

 

[ngaboru]

Njia zipo hakuna linaloshindikana basi tu sio wakati wake huu.

Kuna kitu kimenivutia toka kwako... Una ka "utayari" flan hivi shangazi hadi raha... Sema tunarudi pale pale sio wakati wake sasa...

Tuendelee kutafuta chapaa kwanza kujiimarisha wenyewe kiuchumi kabla hatujawageukia wengine kuanza safari ya ukombozi wa kifikra.

Harakati si harakati kama mfukoni hapako vizuri, kununliwa na kutumikishwa ni dk zero tu.

😃😃😃😃Ivi wachina wametoboaje

 

[Galip Veryl]

Kwa kifupi Zelensky ametukanwa matusi ya mama.

Huyu mzee huwa napenda ongea yake tu. Nikisikia notification ya Msg huko Tele nikaona ni yeye huwa najipiga Pause kwanza nikaangalie kazungumza nini [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

Aliekuambia USA ameondoka Syria ni nani? USA bado yupo syria na Russia analijua ilo wamegawana territory hakuna anayeweza kumtoa USA sehemu yenye maslahi yake hayupo na atokuja kutokea

Aliekuambia USA ameondoka Syria ni nani? USA bado yupo syria na Russia analijua ilo wamegawana territory hakuna anayeweza kumtoa USA sehemu yenye maslahi yake hayupo na atokuja kutokea

There are two distinct grounds to criticize President Trump's decision to withdraw U.S. forces from Syria.

One is the opening the withdrawal provides for Russia, along with the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad and the government of Iran, to displace the United States in eastern Syria.

The second criticism relates to the sudden and unprepared nature of the pullout, which abruptly left the Kurds—an American partner—to fend off a Turkish assault.

 

[MR MAJANGA]

Mrusi ana msaada wowote kwa afrika ukiondoa yale machuma chuma yake na ayo pia atoi bure anawauzia

Daaah wee jamaa ni mjinga kiwango cha lami, haya urusi hatoi msaada bure Ila EU na marekani wanatoa msaada bure??????🤣🤣🤣🤣

Hivi kupewa msaada ni sofa ya kujivunia????

 

[ngaboru]

Endelea kusubiri..

Niambie USA anawezaje kuendelea kutetea taji lake la usupa pawa.

 

[Galip Veryl]

[emoji2][emoji2][emoji2][emoji2]Ivi wachina wametoboaje

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Unafikir walilala wakadamka teari mambo yamekwiva? Happana kila jambo zuri linahitaji kusanifiwa kwa umakini na ustadi wa hali ya juu... Kila safari ina changamoto zake usipojiandaa kwazo basi ni sawa na kusema kua hujajiandaa kwa safari hiyo.

Nina mengi kifuani kuyasema yote si hekima. Ila ipo siku nitawatafuta baadhi kama nyie na wazee wenzangu sio tu kwasababu ni Pro-Russia happana, Bali ability to understand.

Tuone kama tunaweza safirisha baadhi ya abiria kwa mashua nje ya Siasa na mwelekeo wa Madaraka cuz naamini ku-make changes ni utayari na hali (passion) sio lazima uwe politician au kiongozi. NJIA ZIPO NYINGI.

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

Origachi mmoja wa kirusi aishie UK, aliiambia UK baada ya kushikilia mali zake kuwa "ni ujinga pekee kufikiri kuwa maorigachi wa kirusi wanaweza kuzuia mikakati ya serikali ya Russia anaefikiria hivo atakuwa haijui vizuri Russia na namna inavyoendeshwa"

Na ongeza na kauli ya Lavrov Juzi alisema "anaezani kuwa urusi inaweza ikashindwa katika uwanja wa mapambano Ukraine huyo atakuwa na elimu duni na haijui urusi nini na historia yake"

Kwakweli ukifuatilia historia ya viongozi wa Russia tangu ikiwa kwenye Soviet union mpaka leo, basi utaona Putin ndo mpole na mtakatifu kuliko watangulizi wake.

Tujaribu tu kujiuliza hivi Rais angekuwa Dmitry Medvedev halafu jenerali wa majeshi ni Ramzan Akhmadovich Kadyrov (The great Chechnya warrior) Ukraine ingekuwa bado ni nchi kweli?

PUTIN IS A LEADER AND FATHER FOR EX-SOVIET COUNTRIES AS WELL AS WHOLE WORLD.

Ha ha haa,umenikumbusha huyo mwamba Kadryokov hapa juzi alimlaimu Putin anaendeleza mazungumzo na Zelensky amabyo kwanza hayana faida halafu yanchelewesha malengo ya vita.

 

[ngaboru]

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Unafikir walilala wakadamka teari mambo yamekwiva? Happana kila jambo zuri linahitaji kusanifiwa kwa umakini na ustadi wa hali ya juu... Kila safari ina changamoto zake usipojiandaa kwazo basi ni sawa na kusema kua hujajiandaa kwa safari hiyo.

Nina mengi kifuani kuyasema yote si hekima. Ila ipo siku nitawatafuta baadhi kama nyie na wazee wenzangu sio tu kwasababu ni Pro-Russia happana, Bali ability to understand.

Tuone kama tunaweza safirisha baadhi ya abiria kwa mashua nje ya Siasa na mwelekeo wa Madaraka cuz naamini ku-make changes ni utayari na hali (passion) sio lazima uwe politician au kiongozi. NJIA ZIPO NYINGI.

Nimeuliza kwa sababu tuliwai kuwa sawa kiuchumi kabla ya wao kutoboa ,wote tulitawaliwa wao wajapani wamewasumbua sanaa.
Wamewezaje na sisi tunashindwa nini?

 

[Galip Veryl]

Endeleeni tu kuwatukuza [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

Hii TZ sio uzunguni... Taratibu watu wataanza kuzivàa wengine wakijua wengine bila kujua... Miaka kadhaa ijayo Tanzania inajaa Rainbow kila kona.

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

Upo sahihi, Iran iliisaidia sana Syria ilipokuwa imebanwa sana na waasi kati ya mwaka 2012-2014 kwa kupeleka maelfu ya vifaa na wapiganaji wake huko Syria.

Japo Urusi iliingia baadae mwaka 2015 kwa kuchangia vikosi vya anga zaidi, ila bado Iran ilichangia zaidi wapiganaji wengi.
lee van cliff

Da nyinyi watu mnapenda kupindisha ukweli.
Iran hakuweza kifua dafu mbele ya USA,UK,France na Israel.
Iran aiendelea kutoa misaada ya fedha waasi wa Syria walishachukua mikoa yote kasoro Allepo na Damascus.
Alipoingia Urusi alimsaidia Assad kukomboaikoa yote na akabaki madarakani kwa mkono wa Urusi.
Habari hizi zipo jamani.tafuteni mjisomee.

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

Zile laser za 'Zadira' vipi tena ?

Ukiwa na nguo nyingi unabadilisha Kila siku.

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

Nasikitika kuona kuna kizazi kinapenda sana mtelemko. Kifupi hatuna uwezo hata wa kujadiliana nao hawa west zaidi ya kuamuriwa tu.

Ha ha haa
Kweli kabisa Mkuu.
Hawana hoja kabisa

 

[Galip Veryl]

Nimeuliza kwa sababu tuliwai kuwa sawa kiuchumi kabla ya wao kutoboa ,wote tulitawaliwa wao wajapani wamewasumbua sanaa.
Wamewezaje na sisi tunashindwa nini?

[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

Ngoja nikujibu kiutani.

TZ imejaa watu aina hii unayoiona hapa JF wanaojengewa Choo wanashangilia, tutakuwaje kama wachina sasa hivi leo?

Na fikiria tena mathalani hao ndio walimu wa kizazi chako, darasani anakesha kumfundisha mwanao eeeh kumlisha "elim nzuri [emoji23]" huko mbele kuna nini?

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

Naaam, af mwisho inakuwa ni hiari ya mtu kukubali kuelewa au kukubali kutokuelewana.

Hakika kabisa.

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

1-Kutambulika rasmi kwa Russia na china kama super power.
2-Rubble kuichallenge dolla (petrodollar inaenda kuzikwa)
3-Russia kuongeza ushawishi kwenye bara la africa (fursa)
4-US ushawishi wake kimataifa umepungua (simu azipokelewi na vibaraka wake Saudia,Kuomba UN aingilie suala la msosi uko site)
5-Nyingine pro RUSSIA naomba mniongeze

Umemaliza kabisa.

 

[Mathanzua]

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THE WEST IS OBVIOUSLY NOW SOFTENING IT'S TONE TOWARDS RUSSIA.COMMON SENSE SEEMS TO BE SINKING IN THAT RUSSIA IS TOO STRONG ECONOMICALLY AND MILLITARILY TO BE DEFEATED,AND THE MORE THE WAR DRAGS ON,THE MORE POSSIBILITY OF CHINA SUPPORTING RUSSIA!HENRY KISSINGER SEEMS TO HAVE RAISED A NEW AWAKENING.​

READ THIS👇​

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French Military Expert Explains Ukraine, a Story You Will Never Hear from the Presstitutes​

New Developments on the Ukraine front: A French Military Expert Explains Ukraine, a Story You Will Never Hear from the Presstitutes, and the New York Times Abandons Its Demand for Victory Over Russia​

Paul Craig Roberts
“Let’s not expect from our media the truth about the Ukrainian turpitude and exactions,” says Colonel Jacques Gillemain. French Lieutenant Colonel Jacques Guillemain: “Ukrainian soldiers are entrenched in the cities” - Global Research
The New York Times has abandoned the neoconservative demand for victory over Russia:
“A decisive military victory for Ukraine over Russia, in which Ukraine regains all the territory Russia has seized since 2014, is not a realistic goal. … Russia remains too strong…”
“… Mr. Biden should also make clear to President Volodymyr Zelensky and his people that there is a limit to how far the United States and NATO will go to confront Russia, and limits to the arms, money and political support they can muster. It is imperative that the Ukrainian government’s decisions be based on a realistic assessment of its means and how much more destruction Ukraine can sustain.”
John V. Walsh comments:
“As Volodymyr Zelensky reads those words, he must surely begin to sweat. The voice of his masters is telling him that he and Ukraine will have to make some sacrifices for the US to save face. As he contemplates his options, his thoughts must surely run back to February, 2014, and the U.S. backed Maidan coup that culminated in the hasty exit of President Yanukovych from his office, his country and almost from this earth.”
“In the eyes of the Times editorial writers, the war has become a U.S. proxy war against Russia using Ukrainians as cannon fodder – and it is careening out of control.”
The Powers that rule us have changed the narrative. The NYT gives us the new one:
“Recent bellicose statements from Washington — President Biden’s assertion that Mr. Putin ‘cannot remain in power,’ Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin’s comment that Russia must be ‘weakened’ and the pledge by the House speaker, Nancy Pelosi, that the United States would support Ukraine ‘until victory is won’ — may be rousing proclamations of support, but they do not bring negotiations any closer.”
https://www.unz.com/article/new-york-times-repudiates-drive-for-decisive-military-victory-in-ukraine-calls-for-peace-negotiations/
The powers that rule us have used the New York Times to open a front against the neoconservatives who control US foreign policy. We will see if the neoconservative warmongers can be brought to heel before they unleash Armageddon.
As I reported would be the case, Russia’s difficulty in Ukraine is the consequence of the announced limited operation, which gave the otherwise ineffectual Ukrainian military and Neo-Nazi thugs the opportunity to protect themselves by ensconcing themselves among civilians. The urban warfare, given Putin’s restrictions on the use of heavy weapons against civilian populations, resulted in a go-slow war that gave the West every opportunity to demonize Russia and to get directly involved in the conflict by supplying the Ukrainians with weapons, diplomatic support, and vast sums of money–essentially bribes to keep fighting. The Western involvement opened the possibility of a much wider war.
The powers that rule us have recognized that Washington is unprepared and unfit for a wider war and have ordered the NYT to bring the situation under control.
The source of conflict in the world is not found in Russia, China, and Iran. The source of conflict is, as I have reported for years, the neoconservative ideology of Washington’s hegemony over the world. The doctrine, as penned by the neoconservatives themselves, states:
“Our first objective is to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival, either on the territory of the former Soviet Union or elsewhere, that poses a threat on the order of that posed formerly by the Soviet Union. This is a dominant consideration underlying the new regional defense strategy and requires that we endeavor to prevent any hostile power from dominating a region whose resources would, under consolidated control, be sufficient to generate global power.”
Putin told the neoconservatives in 2007 at the Munich Security Conference that he accepted no such limits on Russian sovereignty. China and Iran have also rejected Washington’s hegemony. It is the neoconservatives’ unwillingness to accept a multi-polar world that is the cause of conflict. If the neoconservatives are not dethroned, they will bring about nuclear Armageddon.
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New Developments on the Ukraine Front: A French Military Expert Explains Ukraine, a Story You Will Never Hear from the Presstitutes, and the New York Times Abandons Its Demand for Victory Over Russia - PaulCraigRoberts.org