Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Alisikika mtu mmoja asiyejua chochote
Jana hiyo pia walipokea MLRS ya kupiga masafa ya km 300, vita bado kwa hiyo hizo HIMARS na kwa sasa kuna M270

MLRS kwa wasioijua unafanya kazi thea same kama HIMARS.
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We utakuwa haupo Duniani ndo maana ujui nini kinaendelea.WARUSI wanazidi kusonga kwa kasi sana
Niambie ndani ya hizi siku sita tangu hizo HIMARS zije wamesonga mbele sehemu ipi. Zaidi ya kushambulia wakiwa mbali na kujibiwa na HIMARS ambazo zinapiga makombora na ziki lenga target hazikosi sababu ukitaka sababu kwa nini hazikosi nitakwambia pia na zikipiga zinaondoka Russia inashindwa kupata location kamili
 
KOPI KUTOKA FESIBUKU.


"HATUNA HURUMA KAMA PUTIN" Kim Jon Un Amuonya Zelensyk na Ukraine...

Korea Kaskazini Imemuonya RaisI Volosmyr Zelensky wa Ukraine kuwa Korea kaskazini haina Huruma kama aliyonayo Rais Putin wa Urusi kwani Pamoja na kuwa na Jeshi Bora na Silaha Hatari Duniani amekuwa akisita kuiangamiza Ukraine na kuchagua kutumia wanamgambo badala ya Red Army Jeshi Rasmi la Urusi.

Kim Amesema.." Tutaigeuza Kyiv kuwa Jangwa na makazi ya nguruwe badala ya Binadamu, hatutatumia hata wiki Moja kumkamata na Kumnyonga Muigizaji kibaraka aliyetumwa kimkakati Ulaya kusudi aendeleze mikakati ya Unyonyaji wa marekani kwa Bara hilo"...

"Anazungumzia Vitendo?, Mchekeshaji anaweza kutenda nini mbele ya Korea yenye Makombora yenye kufika Washington bila kuonekana?, Kyiv itakuwa Majivu, hautabaki hata Mfupa wa MTU, Tutaigeuza malisho ya nguru, Na ajaribu...Aliyemtuma alishashashindwa na Korea Tangu Babu Yangu Mwenyekiti Kim Ill Sung akiwa na Upanga wake hapa, Leo Kyiv?"...

Korea Kaskazini Imefikia Hatua ya kutaka kuishambulia Ukraine kwa Makombora ya Nyuklia baada ya Rais Zelensyk Kutishia Kuwa Ataiwajibisha Korea kaakazini na Rais wake Kim Jong Un baada ya Taifa hilo la Kijamaa kulitambua Taiga Jipya la Jamhri ya Donetsk kuwa NCHI huru baada ya kumegwa na Russia kutoka Ukraine...
Naona k zelensky anataka kupiga konzi ncha ya mkuki 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787] mi nilijua unaniambia WARUSI wameachia mkoa waliokuwa wameuteka,kumbe ni vijiji ambayo walitaka kuvichukua ila ikashindikana baada ya vikosi vya UKRAINE kujibu mashambulizi.sasa hapo utasema wame retreat kweli
 
Jana tarehe 15 walivamia Spirne, vershyna, Bilohorivka,na Kodem mkoa wa Donetsk.
Walipigwa wakakimbizwa wakarudi nyuma ukitaka picha nitakuwekea hapa.
Russia ina siraha hatari narudia hatari ngoja siku ikitangaza vita na ukrain au nato ndani ya ukrain ndiyo utasikia kilio cha mbwa koko ....ngoja warusi wachenji gia na kutumia bomu za sumu utajua ujui
 
Ndo maana nasema haupo Duniani.miji yote mitatu SEVERSK,SOLEDAR, NA BAKHMUT WARUSI wameingia .na mji wa SEVERSK majeshi ya UKRAINE yashaondoka.

Sasa ulitaka wasonge mbele vipi zaidi ya hapo?
Niambie ndani ya hizi siku sita tangu hizo HIMARS zije wamesonga mbele sehemu ipi. Zaidi ya kushambulia wakiwa mbali na kujibiwa na HIMARS ambazo zinapiga makombora na ziki lenga target hazikosi sababu ukitaka sababu kwa nini hazikosi nitakwambia pia na zikipiga zinaondoka Russia inashindwa kupata location kamili
 

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Major escalation in progress😀nipro in Ukraine hit by 6 cruise missiles, people burned alive.​

WORLD HAL TURNER 16 JULY 2022

Friday, July 15, 2022, saw a major escalation in the Russia-Ukraine hostilities; the city of Dnipro was hit with six cruise missiles. There are many dead and many more injured. Dnipro is the third largest city in Ukraine.
The violence today became horrific. When the cruise missiles began striking, some people in vehicles were burned to death as blast shrapnel penetrated fuel tanks and set the vehicles ablaze.
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And in this one:

. . . and another:

Pedestrians, including young children, were ripped apart and killed. ( WARNING - Graphic Image Below):

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What makes this so different from elsewhere in Ukraine is that Dnipro was the location from which many attacks against Donetsk were - and are - launched. From 2014 through 2022, Dnipro was the city upon which much of Ukraine's military relied as they bombed and fired mortars into Donetsk. These "poor people" you see in the images above . . . did nothing for the ultimately 14,000 or so killed in Donetsk and Luhansk from 2014-2022.
There were no tears by the people of Dnipro for the people of Luhansk and Donetsk! In case you never saw some of that carnage, take a look at what Ukraine did to civilians in Luhansk and Donetsk (WARNING - Graphic)
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Above is Inna, killed in Luhansk when Ukrainian fascists fired a missile into the local administration building in 2014.

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Above is Chrisitina and her baby girl, killed in Donetsk by Ukrainian shelling of her apartment building in 2014.
There were no demands that the slaughter of those people should stop. Now, Dnipro is getting what the people of Luhansk and Donetsk got. Karma?
The map below shows the region. Zooming-in will let you see it is only about 100 miles from Dnipro to Donetsk:


So on the one hand, it is horrifying to see this type of carnage, it must be remembered that these people seemed to say and do NOTHING while artillery and mortar fire were being enabled by this city, to kill civilians in Donetsk.
No, one does not justify the other, but these facts appear to be in play as to the brutality of the strikes today.
Here is video of some of the missiles, in flight, and detonating:👇bottom.

And social media video too:



Ukraine could have prevented this. The Ukrainian government was repeatedly told that its efforts to join NATO, and worse, to allow US missiles on Ukraine territory with a five minute flight time to Moscow, were a "Red Line" for the Russians. Ukraine proceeded anyway.
Ukraine was warned to stop attacking the Russian-speaking populations of Luhansk and Donetsk; they attacked anyway.
In November and December 2021, Ukraine was told to stop massing troops on the border of Luhansk and Donetsk in preparation for an all-out invasion of those two states, which had voted to secede from Ukraine. The troops were massed anyway; 80,000 of them!
So now Ukraine is finding out what happens when a small country like them, upsets the security for a superpower like Russia. They get smashed.
People say "Ukraine had the right to associate with NATO." Countries don't have "rights." In International affairs, might makes right. Ukraine is finding that out now.
Oh, and those who think that Russia is not a "superpower" should take a good hard look. Because right now, the entire western world is shipping weapons, ammunition, and training into Ukraine, and the Russians are chewing it all up and spitting it out. Russia absolutely, positively is a superpower, and they're showing it right now.
The West should consider exactly what it will mean if Russia's awesome power is shifted from Ukraine to us. It could be OUR cities ending up like Dnipro . . . or worse.
It is time for the West to bow out of Ukraine, and let Ukraine make nice with Russia to put an end to this carnage. The West's "help" to Ukraine, is only making things worse. The dead bodies above, are proof.
 

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Russia explains deadly strike on Ukrainian city​

Moscow said it targeted a meeting of Kiev's military commanders with foreign arms suppliers in central Vinnitsa
Russia explains deadly strike on Ukrainian city

Firefighters extinguish fire in the city of Vinnytsia, west-central Ukraine on July 14, 2022. © AFP / Sergei SUPINSKY
The Russian military has confirmed launching a missile attack at a target in the city of Vinnitsa in Ukraine. The Defense Ministry denied claims that it was a deliberate strike on civilians, stating that it hit Ukrainian military commanders as they were negotiating with foreign arms suppliers.
Russia targeted the House of Military Officers in Vinnitsa with sea-launched Kalibr cruise missiles, the Defense Ministry said on Friday during its daily briefing.
The discussion was about the “transfer of more warplanes and weapons systems as well as the repair of the Ukrainian military air fleet,” the ministry outlined. The Russian strike killed all participants at the gathering, it claimed.
According to Ukrainian officials, the incident left 23 civilians dead and injured scores of others, 80 of whom had to be hospitalized for treatment. President Volodymyr Zelensky claimed that Moscow attacked the city center deliberately and accused it of terrorism.
The discussion was about the “transfer of more warplanes and weapons systems as well as the repair of the Ukrainian military air fleet,” the ministry outlined. The Russian strike killed all participants at the gathering, it claimed.
The head of the Vinnitsa Region, Sergey Borzov, reported that Ukrainian air defenses engaged Russian missiles over the city and claimed they intercepted four of them.
Ukraine claims Russia hit city center
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Ukraine claims Russia hit city center

Kiev has accused Russia of waging a genocidal war, claiming that Russian forces have a policy of killing Ukrainians. Moscow has rejected such allegations, saying its forces only attack legitimate military targets.
Russia sent troops into Ukraine on February 24, citing Kiev’s failure to implement the Minsk agreements, designed to give the regions of Donetsk and Lugansk special status within the Ukrainian state. The protocols, brokered by Germany and France, were first signed in 2014. Former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has since admitted that Kiev’s main goal was to use the ceasefire to buy time and “create powerful armed forces.”
In February 2022, the Kremlin recognized the Donbass republics as independent states and demanded that Ukraine officially declare itself a neutral country that will never join any Western military bloc. Kiev insists the Russian offensive was completely unprovoked.
 
Majibu ya ongezeko la ndege vita ukreini

WHY THERE IS MORE UKRAINIAN AIR PLANES THAN LISTED

By @Rybar

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation invented everything or the answer to the question "Why are there so many aircraft in the Ukrainian Air Force?"

In the feedback bot, we are often asked the question of where the Armed Forces of Ukraine got so many planes and helicopters. Out of habit, people climb into Wikipedia, check the data on the Ukrainian Air Force there, then look into the briefings of the Russian Ministry of Defense and shout “I don’t believe it!”.

The @rybar team decided to hold a small educational program and tell where the legs grow from.

🔻 At the time of the start of the NMD, the official number of aircraft in service was from 165 to 178 Su-24/25/27 and MiG-29 units. Plus 23 training and another 67 "mothballed", that is, withdrawn from combat, aircraft. In addition to tactical aviation, the Armed Forces of Ukraine had just over 200 Soviet-made helicopters.

Nevertheless, many of them (even those that were officially in service) were no longer used due to the development of a resource and poor-quality service by Ukrainian technicians - they were listed only in reports for debiting funds for repairs and money laundering.

However, with the start of a special military operation, it became necessary to restore the combat capability of the air forces. Through the efforts of specialists from the Ukrainian military-industrial complex and engineers from NATO countries (mainly from Eastern Europe), the process of returning decommissioned aircraft to service and repairing damaged ones was established.

In addition to the delivery of the aircraft and helicopters themselves, the states of Eastern Europe such as Slovakia, Bulgaria, Poland, Romania, were transferred parts, spare parts and assemblies for aviation equipment. Some secretly, some officially. The Polish leadership, for example, did not hide the fact that they had transferred all available spare parts for MiGs.

The process of repairing flight equipment is carried out at some airfields in Western Ukraine (Lutsk, Ozernoe, Uzhgorod). However, most of the restoration work is carried out by the same Eastern European countries as Poland, Slovakia and Romania. Slovak transport helicopters fly almost daily to Uzhgorod and back.

Another country helping the Ukrainian side unofficially is Moldova. The territory of this country not only acts as a transit hub for the transportation of goods for various purposes to Ukraine (from the Romanian Suceava through Ryshkany to Mogilev-Podolsky), but is also used to repair Ukrainian aircraft. In particular, the Moldovan authorities provided their Marculesti airfield for this purpose.

🔻 Despite almost daily losses in aviation equipment, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have already established and put on stream the process of repairing decommissioned aircraft and helicopters. Adding to this the supplied weapons from NATO countries, we get quite significant numbers in the amount of old, but still military equipment.

After restoration, the aircraft are promptly delivered from the territory of neighboring states through "neutral" countries to air bases in Western Ukraine, where the process of training flight crews takes place.

The administration of Maia Sandu, despite the declared neutrality in the issue of military-technical support to Ukraine, is increasingly drawing the country into indirect participation in the conflict, following the clear instructions of the Romanian government.

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@russianhead

Woyooooooooo bandiko limenikosha ukipata na lingine naomba niongeze chakula cha ubongo.
 
Niambie ndani ya hizi siku sita tangu hizo HIMARS zije wamesonga mbele sehemu ipi. Zaidi ya kushambulia wakiwa mbali na kujibiwa na HIMARS ambazo zinapiga makombora na ziki lenga target hazikosi sababu ukitaka sababu kwa nini hazikosi nitakwambia pia na zikipiga zinaondoka Russia inashindwa kupata location kamili
mzee wa "UKITAKA NITAKWAMBIA/NITALETA/NITAWEKA"😀😀😀
 
EVENING THOUGHT 👏

West hivi sasa ni kama hawapo ready to support Ukraine for a long time, which is becoming obvious to everyone. Assistance is gradually being reduced, and the promised money simply slows down at all stages.

Sasa ni kama wanaelewa that loans are non-repayable, na ile criticism of the aid has unfolded in the US and the EU. Ukraine inabidi waangalie new mechanisms to persuade EU officials ambao karibuni wanaingia kwenye janga la Winter hali za Raia wao zikiwa ngumu.

Naona kama kimbembe cha Winter kinaweza kukata utepe wa Aid za EU na US kuingia Ukraine.
Naomba kujua baridi ulaya itaanza mwezi gani na kuisha mwezi gani?
 
EVENING THOUGHT 👏

West hivi sasa ni kama hawapo ready to support Ukraine for a long time, which is becoming obvious to everyone. Assistance is gradually being reduced, and the promised money simply slows down at all stages.

Sasa ni kama wanaelewa that loans are non-repayable, na ile criticism of the aid has unfolded in the US and the EU. Ukraine inabidi waangalie new mechanisms to persuade EU officials ambao karibuni wanaingia kwenye janga la Winter hali za Raia wao zikiwa ngumu.

Naona kama kimbembe cha Winter kinaweza kukata utepe wa Aid za EU na US kuingia Ukraine.
Naomba kujua baridi ulaya itaanza mwezi gani na kuisha mwezi gani?
 
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