Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

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Sio Helicopters tu Russia anashikilia silaha nyingi sana mpak HIMARS. Pia jeshi la Ukraine baadhi sio waaminifu wamekua wanauza silaha kwa Warussi sababu ya kucheleweshewa malipo na morale haipo.

Kuhusu Crimea kuna matukio Russia anafanya hujuma kuonekana yanalipuliwa ili aendelee na moto wa operation maaana anapata faida kubwa sana pale. Uchimbaji wa madini unaendelea pale kwa maeneo anayoshikilia, vita anaendesha kupitia Ukraine wamekuja kushtuka juzi tu.

Ila unamwaza ya kitoto sana yaani mkuu

 

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Russia’s Defense Minister has denied the country has been isolated, listing Chad, Uganda and other nations among its allies.

“These constant loud statements about the isolation of Russia,” Sergei Shoigu said in an interview, according to Interfax. “This is generally quite difficult to achieve, and, speaking of our country, it is almost impossible because it’s the largest nuclear power, the largest country in terms of area and territory.”

Suggestions that Russia’s war in Ukraine would affect the number of companies and delegations attending the Army 2022 International Military and Technical…

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News Source: Russian military chief denies "isolation," lists Uganda, Chad among allies

 

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[ndammu]

Ujerumani inawauzia Israel aina fulani ya diesel electric submarines zenye AIP system zile Dolphin class. Hizo subs hazikaribiwi na poor subs za Russia zile Kilo class. Hiyo Israel ndio mwalimu wa Russia kwenye drones. Israel huyo ndio bingwa wa kuharibu na kukwepa air defence system za Urusi. Maeneo yote ambayo silaha za Mrusi na zinakutana na za Muisraeli silaha za Urusi zifiche tu. Tumeziona vizuri Nagorno Karabhak. Sasa Israel haijawahi nunua silaha mbovu au kwa mtu mjinga asiyejua.

Ujerumani imetoa Gepard anti aircraft gun system kwa Ukraine. Hizo Gepard ilishaacha kuzitumia ikisema ni za zamani wala sio hadhi yake. Cha ajabu bado zinalitishia jeshi la Russia na Ukraine iliziomba.

Ujerumani imetoa Pz2000 ambayo ni the best howitzer waliyopokea Ukraine. Ogopa sana Ukraine wakipokea silaha kwa msaada kisha wakachangishana harambee kununua idadi nyingine ya silaha hiyo. Pz2000 ni bora kuliko French Caesar, Swedish Archer na yoyote aliyo nayo Marekani.

Imetoa silaha nyingi ndogo kama DM22 directional anti tank mines zenye uwezo wa kushangaza. Panzerfaust 3 ATGM ambazo ni nyepesi kuliko Javelin. Kuna mines nyingine, na silaha nyingi.

Rheinmetall kampuni ya Ujerumani ndio ilijenga Mulino, kituo kipya cha mafunzo ya jeshi cha Urusi. Hakuna yeyote pale Russia angejenga kituo kama hicho, Urusi walikuwa na vituo vya kizee ambavyo havina hata simulation capabilities.
Bado Rheinmetall inatengeneza silaha za uwezo mkubwa kama Leopard MBT.

Kulinganisha jeshi la Ukraine dhidi ya Ujerumani ni mchana na usiku. Ujerumani haiwezi tumia silaha yeyote made in Ukraine, ni silaha duni sana kwao. Vilevile haiwezi tumia silaha nyingi ambazo ziko deployed na Ukraine. Ukraine ina Su-27 na Mig-29 ambazo ni 3rd gen jets za miaka ya 70 uko wakati Ujerumani ina 4th gen Eurofighter Typhoon ambazo ndege ya kwanza imetengenezwa 2003.

Ukraine haina navy wakati Germany ina wargships na subs. East Germany ilikuwa na silaha ambazo ilizigawa kwa former Soviet block members miaka ya 80 na 90 uko. Mfano BMP-1 ilizipa modifications kubwa ikazipeleka Sweden kisha Czech Republic.View attachment 2330591 Vita hii Ukraine ikaziomba na Wajerumani wakatoa ruhusa hizo junks ziende Ukraine. Wao hawawezi tumia kazi mbovu vile katafute IFV na APC wanazotumia na wanazodevelop.

Kuhusu morali ya kupigana na mwamko, hilo kajifunze kwanini Nazi Germany ilipozimavia Poland, France na USSR kwanini Britain na US zilikuja kuwasaidia. Huwezi linganisha Ujerumani na Ukraine. Huijui Ujerumani kwa kuwa haipigi kelele kama Russia. Unaamini kwenye kelele kuliko ukimya

Umechambua vizuri sana Mungu akubariki. Alete articles zake na yeye.

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The hardware has demonstrated its “outstanding qualities,” the defense minister has said

Russian forces have successfully fired three Kinzhal hypersonic missiles during the conflict in Ukraine, Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu has said.

The missile “has been used by us on three occasions during the special military operation [in Ukraine]. And it showed its outstanding qualities on three occasions, qualities that no other similar missile in the world possesses,” Shoigu told Russia 1 TV on Sunday.

The Kinzhal (Dagger) is a Russian hypersonic…

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News Source: https://www.rt.com/news/561252-kinz...tm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=RSS

 

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Tulia dawa ikuingie mimi sio kama nyie mnao tuletea video games

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[Cash Generating Unit]

Ujerumani Hao ndo walioipa Ukraine Irish air defense system na bado zimefeli pia ujerumani imetuma artillery za kisasa kwa Ukraine lakini wapi. Leo hii ujerumani tuipiganishe hata na serbia ujerumani haitoboi kwa strategy weapons hawana yaani kama wantegea tomahawk za USA basi wamefeli tomahawk zilipukutishwa nyingi na Syria. Hizo submarine za Israel alizo nunua kwa ujerumani zilishwai kukutana na mtiti wa underwater drone za hamas mpaka Israel ikazippeleka Cyprus. Urusi Ana underwater misseli yenyewe uwezo wa kunguzauka dunia hata mwaka mzima kisha ika hit target

Germany alikua zamani sahvi ni bwabwa hana maajabu. Masual ya jeshi yote alikabidhi kwa shoga yake US [emoji304]. Belarus anamkalisha vzr kabisa[emoji23]

 

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Sasa hivi nikileta habari naweka source zaidi ya ya 3 bora nisipost lakini nipate habari iliyoripotiwa na chombo zaidi ya kimoja sasa wewe unaandika Ukraine amerudishwa nyuma huko kherson unamaliza huo ujinga kapost facebook.

 

[Yoda]

Ficha ujinga wako/wenu, jiepusheni na uropokaji.
Ufaransa na Uingereza ni mojawapo kati ya majeshi kumi bora duniani. Uturuki, Italia, Ujerumani na Canada ni mojawapo ya majeshi 15 bora duniani.

Ukiitoa USA hakuna inchi inayoweza kuipiga Ukraine katika muungano wa nato walichemka Afghanistan katika ground battle. Unadhani ujerumani kwa sasa inamsuri hata wa kuipiga serbia? Nato ni USA wengine hamna kitu

Ndo

 

[vunjo]

Tazama wanajeshi wakirusi wanakimbia nakujificha eneo moja kumbe wanafwatiliwa wameshushiwa kitu kizitoKipigo kiko palepale hii vita mrusi hatoboi hata kidogo

 

[Bukyanagandi]

Mbona Sasa kambi na magala yanalipuliwa sana. Air defence zimeshindwa kabisa kujuia kulipuliwa kwa hizo kambi

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Jamani, kwani kazi air za air defense systems ni zipi hasa? Tusipendelee kubeza beza vitu bila ya kujua vizuri vinavyo fanya kazi, Warusi wanasema milipuko kwenye maeneo/jimbo la Crimea yana sababishwa na hujuma na sio missiles, lakini nyinyi mnaendelea kuhoji kuhusu ufanisi wa Russian Air Defense Systems ambazo wengi wenu mnafikiri ufanisi wake ni highly questionable, kitu ambacho si kweli kabisa - kitu cha kwanza rada hazina uwezo wa kuona/tambua objects/bodies ambazo RCS zake ziko chini ya threshold/kiwango/ukubwa/size fulani ie radar software algorithms zinakosa enough information za kuziwezesha ku-command roketi launcher ifyatuwe type hipi ya roketi ili ku-intercept incoming missiles/drones/ndege - ndio maana special forces/commandos wakitumia: motor, specialises RPG, artillery shells hivyo vyote havionekani kwenye rada screen kutokana na size zake kuwa ni ndogo.

Mnao beza beza SAM za Urusi,je, mliwahi kujihoji ni kwa nini air defense za Merikani (Patriot, THAAD, Aegis)zilishindwa ku-intercept roketi 12 za Iran mpaka zikafanikiwa kushambulia kambi mbili za jeshi la Merikani na kuharibu vibaya infrastructure zikiwemo majengo,uwanja wa kuruka na pia wanajeshi wa Merikani kwenye makambi hayo walipata madhala licha ya kujichimbia kwenye mahandaki yaliyo jengwa kwa zege kali, lakini hilo halikuwasaidia kitu.

Sasa swali: ilikuwaje Taifa linalo jisifia kwamba wana uunda Integrated Air Defense Systems ambazo hakuna mfanowe popote Duniani, ilikuwaje tena zikashindwa miserably kudhibiti/intercept Roketi za akina Ayatolla Khali Khali Khomeni?? Si hilo tu, Air defense systems za Kimerikani ziliwahi kushindwa kwa mara nyingine tena huko Saudi Arabia ambako home/backyard made/DIY roketis za rebels wa Yemen zilishambulia a Petrochemical Complex na kusababishia Taifa la Saudi Arabia hasara kubwa, Mbona hayo hamuyasemi mko kimya kabisa!!

 

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Baada ya majeshi ya UKRAINE kutolewa kwenye mkoa wa KHERSON,majeshi ya URUSI yanazidi kusonga mbele na kuingia kwenye mkoa wa MYKOLAYIV na kuchukua kijiji cha BLAHODATNE

 

[Bwana Utam]

Nani hao waliosema Ukraine inaweza piga nchi zote za NATO kasoro US na Turkey.

Germany ipigwe na Ukraine?
UK ipigwe na Ukraine?
Italy ipigwe na Ukraine?
France je, Canada nayo?

Yani Ukraine hii hii ambayo imepokea mafunzo kutoka Ulaya na Marekani, inapewa silaha na hata Bulgaria ndio ipigane na giants wa NATO. Uwingi wa wanajeshi sio kitu, Russia mbona ina wanajeshi wengi ila poor trained na silaha mbovu. China mbona ina wanajeshi wengi ila Taiwan kisiwa kidogo hakiiogopi.

Sasa kumbe mmehamisha magoli leo hii Ukraine ingekuwa kwenye coalition ni the third best military in NATO? Failures za Russia haziifanyi Ukraine iwe bora. Ukraine ina jeshi la kawaida, hata determination waliyonayo Ukraine ni ya kawaida. Russia ingeivamia Poland ambayo ndio ilifanyiwa massacre ya watu zaidi ya 200,000 kwenye WW2 au ingevamiwa Finland ambayo ilipambana na USSR kwenye Winter war ndio ungejua Russia ina jeshi bovu mno.

Kama umeanza kusoma vita mwaka huu nakukumbusha Russia mwaka 1995 ilikuwa na performance mbaya sana kwenye vita ya wenyewe kwa wenyewe ya Chechen. Ikawa na rekodi mbaya kwenye second Chechen war, ikawa na rekodi mbaya kupindukia kwenye vita ya Georgia mwaka 2008 na baada ya hapo ikafanya military reforms. Kwa sasa hizi ndio reforms zimefanyika ila performance sio nzuri.

Ukraine hii mwaka 2014 ilivamiwa pale Crimea wanajeshi wakaondoka bila kurusha hata risasi. Miaka saba baadae imevamiwa na adui yuleyule ambaye anapigana nayo kwa kujificha. Ndani ya NATO humo ni utoto kulinganisha nchi nilizokutajia dhidi ya nchi iliyokimbia eneo lake miaka saba iliyopita

Wala hakuna sehemu waliosema kama uwingi wamajeshi ndio ubora wa jeshi ama vipi
Kuhusu aliosemea hio UKRAINE nimbunge mmoja hapo FINI ama SWED kama sijakosea
Video nnayo ila sita iupload unaweza mgoogle jamaa ama youtube utamuona anaelezea hili
Pia sio kwamba wanapigwa anasema UKRAINE hawanatena jeshi licha yakupewa misaada tokea sehem mbali mbali
Pia naomba nikukumbushe kwamba hizo vita ulizozisema RUSSIA alifanya vyema sana na bado kwa hii SMO anafanya vyema haswaaa
Pia hakuna anaesema kama UKRAINE anaingizwa kwenye coalition hapana niwao wenyewe
Pia hao SWED na FINI unaowatolea mfano juzi tu hapa wameomba kuungwa na NATO ili RUSSIA ashindwe kuzivamia kama afanyavyo kwa UKRAINE maana yake wanajua kama RUSSIA nihabari nyengine
Pia jeshi kufanyiwa reform nk nimambo yakawaida sana sio kwa RUSSIA tu bali duniani kote
Mwisho CHINA ni TAIWAN na TAIWAN ni CHINA

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Baada ya majeshi ya UKRAINE kutolewa kwenye mkoa wa KHERSON,majeshi ya URUSI yanazidi kusonga mbele na kuingia kwenye mkoa wa MYKOLAYIV na kuchukua kijiji cha BLAHODATNEView attachment 2330656

Vita ni maeneo Go Russia

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Baada ya majeshi ya UKRAINE kutolewa kwenye mkoa wa KHERSON,majeshi ya URUSI yanazidi kusonga mbele na kuingia kwenye mkoa wa MYKOLAYIV na kuchukua kijiji cha BLAHODATNEView attachment 2330656

Acha Wapanue humu midomo na Nchi inazidi kutekwa. Tukimaliza Strategic and Targeted Areas tuna hamia kyiv. Tumnyonge huyo Zelenskyy, kibaraka wa America..

 

[Bwana Utam]

Baada ya majeshi ya UKRAINE kutolewa kwenye mkoa wa KHERSON,majeshi ya URUSI yanazidi kusonga mbele na kuingia kwenye mkoa wa MYKOLAYIV na kuchukua kijiji cha BLAHODATNEView attachment 2330656

@T14 Armata SMO inaenda vyema MKUU

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[lee Vladimir cleef]

Ingepigana na Nato ungeona f22, f35, eurofighter typhoon, ungeina carrier strike group, ungeona Abrams tanks, ungeona THAAD, Patroit airdefence system, ungeona A10 warhog, ungeona wanajeshi wa Nato uko, ungeona baba la vita B 52 na b2

Ungeona vitu kibao sijavitaja vimetulia magjalani uko

Hivyo vifaa unavyotaji ni kwa ajili ya nchi kama Iraq,Libya na Afghanistan,lkn sio kwa Urusi.
Hujiulizi ni kwa Nini USA hataki Turkey anunue S400?
USA hawezi kupeleka vifaa kama hivyo kwa Ukraine.
Kwa Nini hapeleki wakati Kosovo alipekeka?

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

Hili ndo taifa la kesho, Vijana weupe Kabisa Kichwani, Kuunganisha Dots zero, Hoja Zero.

Tatizo la mabaladhuri Huwa mnajiona mna akili sana.
Hii ndio shida ya kupenda kupakatwa na wanaume.

 

[Sigonella Island]

Baada ya majeshi ya UKRAINE kutolewa kwenye mkoa wa KHERSON,majeshi ya URUSI yanazidi kusonga mbele na kuingia kwenye mkoa wa MYKOLAYIV na kuchukua kijiji cha BLAHODATNEView attachment 2330656

Ukraine makelele mengi kumbe wanachezea kipigo cha mbwa mwizi

 

[Mathanzua]

Huyu

This is exactly/preciously what have been saying all along - lakini ni watu wachache walio nielewa - repeat Biden ni mtu hatari sana Duniani na jeuri kweli kweli - atatumaliza nawaambieni. Tuombe sana Mungu atunusuru hali ni tete watu hawajui tu, tuta aminije mtu ambaye anasalimiana na hewa, miscalculation ya kutuletea/sababisha WW3 ni more pronounced kutoka kwa individual kama huyu ambaye hatabiriki kama Tsunami tidal waves.

Joe Biden ni Zombie la NWO mkuu,so he is not the one controlling America,the NWO does.Hii ina maana gani,ina maana kwamba agenda za NWO ndizo zinazo-tekelezwa in the US,na hii iko wazi.But do not forget that this has wider repurcussions for the World,because once America falls,it falls with the rest of the World. The wider agenda is to get hold of America,and once that is done,the next is the rest of the World.Ofcourse this does not mean that the NWO is doing nothing in the rest of the World at the moment,far from that,they are infact doing alot to weaken governments and the World citizenry everywhere worldwide,ready for easy World conquest.