Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Ni fake hiyooo....inasemekana picha zilizotumika zipo mtandaoni tangu 2020....Huyu dada bado wanamlia timing tu
 
Ni fake hiyooo....inasemekana picha zilizotumika zipo mtandaoni tangu 2020....Huyu dada bado wanamlia timing tu
Picha inaweza kuwa fake ila taarifa ya kifo chake ni mapema kuiita fake news. Waziri wa mambo ya ndani wa Austria amesema "hawana taarifa yoyote ya kifo cha Natalia kwa hiyo hawawezi kuthibitisha kama hiyo habari ni kweli au lah".

Jibu hilo limekaa kisiasa sana kwakuwa ilikuwa ni jambo rahisi tu kusema taarifa zinazozunguka kwenye mitandao ya kijamii ni uongo na uzushi lakini hawajafanya hivyo.

Lakini pia kwanini Urusi na Ukraine wapo kimya juu ya hii taarifa? Kuna ubaya gani Urusi kusema imehusika na kifo chake au Ukraine kukana hizi taarifa za kifo cha Vovka.
 
Wanajifanya hawajui, ovious hawajui maana wanaropoka
No Kuna tofauti kubwa Kati ya kusema NATO bases na kusema Us bases in Europe
Kwa kiasi kikubwa ulaya ndio wanna NATO bases lakini US kule kwake Ina American military bases.
Lakini pia hukohuko ulaya US ana base zake ambazo si za NATO.. lakini Ni kambi zinazopokea amri kutoka America..
Kuhusu kuwa na silaha za NATO Ni kweli Hili Jambo lipo.. Kuna makambi yaitwayo ya NATO ambayo huhifadhi humo ghalani silaha za nchi tofauti za NATO hasa Huko Mashariki ya Ulaya Latvia na Estonia.
 
Pro Russia mje mchukue miili ya ndugu zenu huku tushaharibu[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]
 
Warusi wamewaangamiza kabisa marubani wa ukrein na mpaka Sasa wamekosa kabisa kuwapata wengineo duniani kwani wanajua kinachowasubiri.

The Russian army eliminated almost all pilots of the Ukrainian Air Force.

This is reported by @rian_ru with reference to military and diplomatic circles.

The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is trying to make up for losses by using untrained cadets, but they die on the first sorties.

Attempts to recruit pilots from Eastern European countries also ended unsuccessfully — those who agreed "are already in graves and hospitals."

Washington is recruiting a flight crew for Kiev from the fugitive Afghan military, but their future is not difficult to predict.

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⭕️پایان حمایت انگلیس از اوکراین تا چند ماه دیگر

🔰یک مقام آگاه در وزارت دفاع انگلیس: حمایت‌های مالی این کشور از ارتش اوکراین تا اتمام سال جاری میلادی پایان خواهد یافت.

🔰انگلیس در حال تحمل فشار حمایت‌های چند میلیارد پوندی به اوکراین است در حالی‌که وضعیت این کشور به‌دلیل افزایش بهای سوخت با بحران مواجه است.

⭕️The end of British support for Ukraine in a few months

🔰An informed official in the British Ministry of Defense: the country's financial support to the Ukrainian army will end by the end of this year.

🔰 England is bearing the pressure of multi-billion pound support to Ukraine, while the country's situation is facing a crisis due to the increase in fuel prices.

🆔بروکر جهانی ZTE-Forex
 
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Ulikuja kwa speed kali na madai ya kwamba NATO haina silaha. Sasa hv umekuja na madai ya kwamba Ukraine haihusiki na 'military contingents and infrastructures' bali sweden na finland. Mchezo wa kuhamisha magoli! Kwa kukumbusha tu hakuna mtu aliyehusisha silaha za NATO na Ukraine kama ulivyodai hapa.

Nikukumbushe zaidi in brief. Kwenye post yangu uliyoniquote kwa mara ya kwanza mimi nilisema kuna tofauti kati ya #FinSwed kujiunga na NATO na Ukraine kujiunga NATO kisha nikasema hata hao wawili wakijiunga hawataruhusiwa kuruhusu deployment ya silaha za NATO kwenye nchi zao na wakifanya hivyo Moscow itarespond alafu nikaweka na statement ya putin mwenyewe. Wewe ukaja ukidai nato haina silaha nilivyokujibu madai yako umekuja na mengine kwamba 'silaha hizo' hazihusiani chochote na Ukraine bali #FinSwed. Hoja yako ya msingi ni ipi!? Nato haina silaha au haijawahi kupokea maombi ya kujiunga kutoka kwa Ukraine!?

Kuwa muadilifu.
a. Kama umebadili msimamo na sasa unakubali nato ina silaha basi ukane msimamo wako wa kwanza hapahapa jukwaani wa kudai nato haina silaha
b. Kama bado msimamo wako ni uleule kwamba nato haina silaha tupe tafsiri yako (kwa kiswahili) Putin anaposema 'military contingents and infrastructures' anamaanisha nini!?

2 & 3. Unalazimisha watu wakusikilize wewe kuhusu maswala ya ndani ya Urusi tena ya kiusalama kuliko raisi wa Urusi mwenyewe. unastaajabisha [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]
Yaani wewe unaongea Point kuhusu Urusi na putin anaongea porojo/utopolo kuhusu Urusi yake. Sio maajabu haya!?

Kwanza umeona sasa ulikosea kutafsiri niliposema Russian speaking Ukrainians wewe ukadai nimesema raia wa ukraine ambao ni raia wa urusi!?

LPR & DPR walitambuliwa kama organization za kigaidi na serikali ya Ukraine tangu mwaka 2014. Unafikiri Ukraine ilikuwa inawatreat vipi hao watu baada ya kuwa lebel kwa ni magaidi!? Ukitaka kumuua mbwa mpe jina baya sio!

Alafu Putin hajaingia tu donbass kwa kujiamulia bali waliomba msaada wenyewe (lpr&dpr) kutoka russia. Hata us & co Kuna mahali p3ngi tu waliombwa kwenda kutoa msaada na wakaenda. Au unataka kusema urusi hana haki ya kwenda kutoa msaada popote atapoombwa kwenda ikiwa yeye ameona vizuri kwenda!?

Kuwepo kwa mapigano tu ya lpr na dpr dhidi ya serikali ya Zelensky niushahidi kwamba hao watu ni wenyewe ndio walikuwa hawaridhishwi na jinsi walivyokuwa treated na bwana Zelensky hapo kbl otherwise kwa nini wapigane vita vikali namna hii wako radhi wafe na miji yao iharibiwe bila sababu za msingi!? All the people in donbass are stupid!? Watu wanasema wananyanyaswa na wanapigana kufa na kupona dhidi ya aliyekuwa anawanyanyasa wewe unakuja hapa kusema madai yao kuwa walikuwa wananyanyaswa ni porojo na propaganda, duh!
 
Huwenda kweli alikuwa Estonia Ila alitangaza makusudi ili kuichafua NATO kuwa inafadhili magaidi, sasa NATO kuepuka hilo wakampeleka Australia wakijua wamemficha kumbe wamewarahisishia kazi urusi wameweza kumuangamiza mlengwa bila kuingia mgogoro na NATO
 
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