Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Kwenye hiyo quote ya huyo waziri sijaona maneno yaliyo kwenye tafsiri yako ya kiswahili. Umeongeza mengi tu ambayo hakusema. Biased translation.

Nevertheless, achana na statement ya huyo waziri njoo kwa statement ya putin mwenyewe. Russia haina shida na swedfin kujiunga nato. Ila zikiruhusu deployement ya military contingents and infrastructures russia will respond mirrorly. Hii ndio statement ya putin na ndio iko very specific.
 
Ardhi ipi Kaka,kwani hujui kama asilimia kubwa ya maeneo anayoshikilia Mrusi aliyateka tangu 2014,yaliyoongezeka ni machache tu kama Kherson na mengineyo ambayo aliichukua kiulaini mwanzoni kabisa mwa Vita lakini baada ya Himars Tu kufika speed ya jamaa ikapungua mpk Leo anapigwa counter offensive na Ukraine halafu yeye ndo yupo kwenye defense. Baada ya kuona wamezidiwa hii wanayoita operation haiendi Sawa Putin anataka kufanya full mobilization. Mrusi mpaka sasa hajaiteka Donbass yote, Ukraine Jana imeanza kuchukua vijiji huko Luhank kuficha aibu jamaa kaona aharakishe referendum lakini hiyo pia haitabadili kitu Ukraine itazidi kusonga mbele.
 
hawa kazakhstan rais wao ndo alisema hatotambua uhuru wa majimbo ya mashariki mwa ukraine tena wakiwa kwe mkutano na putin, awe makini asije pata ajali ya kupaliwa na mate roho ikaacha mwili
Hahahaha jamaa hataki kabisa kujihusisha na Russia anajibana Kwa China na Marekani + EU. Huyu nae wakishindwa kumuua sijui watamuundia special military operation [emoji38]
 
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Sawa inaenda vizuri naona Demilitarisation na denazification imefanikiwa. Ukraine hana tena jeshi lote limeshaharibiwa na Russia. Ule msafara wa 65km sasa uko Kiev. Na wale paratroopers walioshuka pale Kiev usiku wa February 24 now wanajivinjari kwenye Ikulu ya Zelenksy
 
Kwama pote alipopeleka majeshi ya US kulikua na mwanachama wa NATO !!?


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Sasa ndio tutashuhudia mabomu mazito mazito yakishushwa hapo Kiev.
 
Mimi tatizo ninaloliona kwa Russia ni kwamba wali-miscalculate the enemy they were dealing with.They thought they were facing Ukraine,kumbe they were facing the US,NATO and Europe. This is proved by continuing to call what they are doing in Ukraine a Special Operation instead of a War,thus committing only around 200,000 soldiers in Ukraine and limited millitary equipment.Russia should have declared the Ukraine conflict a War right from the beginning. This would have enabled the country to mobilize and go full throttle in February and take Ukraine out of the World map right from the beginning.Now however that the West has mobilized against Russia and has put in place strategies to weaken the country in several fronts,Russia will have to use alot more resources in terms of equipment and manpower, if it wants to win the War.The problem ahead against Russia is huge,but is not unwinable.
 
Sasa kama Ukraine anaesaidiwa visilaha vya zamani na NATO anaihenyesha Urusi ndo itakua Marekani+ NATO?! Acha utani ww...
Askari Mkuu wa NATO anasema hivi
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In Bauer’s view, while it is up to Kiev to decide how the conflict should end, one of NATO’s principal goals should be to protect Ukraine’s sovereignty. In the short-term, the objective, he argued, should be for the borders to return to what they were on February 24, the date when Moscow began its offensive.
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Sasa LPR na DPR zinajitoa rasmi Ukraine na kujiunga Russia muda si mrefu. Tuone ndoto ya askari huyu wa nato itatimiaje!
 
Unauliza ardhi ipi!? 20% ya Ukraine ambayo ni sawa na 50% ya UK. 120k kmsq.

Haijalishi aliyateka lini au lini swala ni kwamba ni maeneo ya Ukraine yaliyo chini ya urusi ambayo yamechukuliwa kinguvu Period. Alf Tangu ya 2014 crimea tu ndio ilikuwa urusi (annexed). Sasa hv kherson, baadhi ya maeneo ya mykolaiv, dpr, lpr, zaporozhie, baadhi ya maeneo kharkiv, hayo yote yamechukuliwa ss hv bila kusahau maeneo yaliyorudishwa (willingly) ambayo yalikuwa yashaangukia kwa warusi.

"Baada ya kuona wamezidiwa hii wanayoita operation haiendi Sawa Putin anataka kufanya full mobilization."

Unaongea kimihemko sana. Una uhakika gani kwamba mobilisation ni kwa sababu operesheni imeenda vibaya!? Kwanza unajuaje kwamba operesheni imeenda vibaya!? Ili iwe imeenda vizuri ilitakiwa iendeje!?

Hakuna aliyesema kwamba referendum inapitishwa ili kumzuia Ukraine asiendelee kusogea. Yeye km uwezo anao aendelee kusogea tu ana kilomita za mraba zaidi ya laki moja zinamsubiri. Km ana uwezo atazirudisha with or without referendum. Kwani referendum ni wanajeshi wa ziada au silaha mpk zimzuie asisogee.
 
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