Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Mbunge wa zamani wa Ukraine ambaye alikua anaunga mkono Sera za Urusi auawa Leo hii huko Kherson. Mwaka 2015 alikimbilia uhamishoni Urusi,juzi alipost video kwamba amepiga Kura kuunga mkono Kherson kuwa chini ya Urusi.

Former member of Ukrainian parliament killed in Kherson – Russia media
SUNDAY, 25 SEPTEMBER 2022, 09:33

Russian propaganda media have reported that two people, including a former member of the Ukrainian Parliament, the Verkhovna Rada, have been killed in Kherson as a result of an alleged strike.

Source: Kremlin-aligned news outlets RBC and RIA Novosti

Details: It has been reported that Oleksii Zhuravko, a former "rehional" [representative of the Party of Regions which was a pro-Russian political party in Ukraine], is allegedly among those killed.

He published a video on 23 September in which he "voted" in the sham referendum in Kherson.

As has become customary, the occupiers are blaming Ukraine for his death.

For reference: Zhuravko has been a member of the Party of Regions faction since 2006, and since 2015 he fled to Russia, where he has lived until now.

When he was a member of parliament, Zhuravko attacked a Ukrainska Pravda journalist in the parliament building.

He has supported the Russian aggression against Ukraine since the beginning of the war.

T14 Armata said:

Yesterday, the Ukrainian General Staff claimed troops shot down two Russian Su-30SM Flankers, a Su-25SM Frogfoot, a Su-34 Fullback, five drones, and a cruise missile. Footage showed a Su-34 trailing fire from its right engine over the frontline in Kharkiv Oblast, with a later clip showing a fireball and crash site in the area.

Tena hizo ndege nyingine zimepigwa na Stinger MANPADS

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Na inavyosemekana zimepigwa eneo linaloshikiliwa na Urusi, maana yake Ukraine wameadvance zaidi

Intuition said:

Ulimwenguni watu wanatembea wanakua mercenaries......Watanzania ndo tumujifungua humu ndani kama tupo kwenye kibuyu....watu wanazaliwa mkoani..wanatembea humuhumu mpaka wanazeeka...Nchi nyingine watu wanatake risk sana....wachezaji wangapi mfano WaTz wanacheza nje??,Wangapi WaTz wanafanya kazi/biashara nje??
Mwezi wa tatu..waethiopia walijaa ubalozi wa Urusi wakitaka wakaajiliwe kama wapiganaji, Waarabu etc....Wagner wale full mchanfanyiko kule..

Ulimwengu hauko kama wewe unavyotamani uwe....na haijalishi kwamba uko sahihi au hapana..

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Mzee huwezi kuwa Mercenary kizembe, Makampuni yanayo supply Mercenaries duniani hayazidi hata Kumi, na haya makampuni haya recruit vijana ovyo ovyo, kwa wenzetu kuna sehemu za kujifunza mafunzo ya kijeshi kama self-defense na unalipia kama shule vile, hivyo wengi wao wanakwenda kwnye hizi shule na baadae kuomba kazi kwenye makampuni binafsi ya ulinzi au hayo makampuni ya Mercenaries, sio unatoka Tanzania na kuajiliwa kama Mercenary.

Pia sifa ya kuajilia kwenye haya makampuni ni kama una Military experience haijalisha unatoka Afrika au sehemu yyte so long as una military experience basi unaweza pata kazi umo.

Note: wengi wanapenda kuajiliwa na haya makampuni ya Mercenaries kwa sababu yanalipa hela nyingi zaidi ya wanajeshi walioajiliwa jeshini (serikali)

Intuition said:

Ulimwenguni watu wanatembea wanakua mercenaries......Watanzania ndo tumujifungua humu ndani kama tupo kwenye kibuyu....watu wanazaliwa mkoani..wanatembea humuhumu mpaka wanazeeka...Nchi nyingine watu wanatake risk sana....wachezaji wangapi mfano WaTz wanacheza nje??,Wangapi WaTz wanafanya kazi/biashara nje??
Mwezi wa tatu..waethiopia walijaa ubalozi wa Urusi wakitaka wakaajiliwe kama wapiganaji, Waarabu etc....Wagner wale full mchanfanyiko kule..

Ulimwengu hauko kama wewe unavyotamani uwe....na haijalishi kwamba uko sahihi au hapana..

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Mkuu nenda ubalozini hapo uombe visa ya urusi tena wala sio nchi inayogombewa na watu wengi hivo utapata kirahisi ukapambane.

Take risk? unadhani kila risk is worth taking? Hao Ethiopians wenyewe usidhani walikuwa wanapangana ili kwenda front line huko wanajiongeza tu wafike ulaya.

triga said:

I am disappointed!

Nilitegemea utakuja na data halisi kutoka kwa warusi wenyewe i.e. MoD zinazoonesha drones za uturuki zilizoshushwa na za waturuki wenyewe wanaozalisha hizo drones.

Umekuja na source ya mchongo na pia madai yako ya kuwa uturuki hawajawahi kuzalisha drone 100 hujaweka hata source ya mchongo. Aibu!

Soma hapa,
Baykar has inked contracts to supply TB2s to 24 nations, and company CEO Haluk Bayraktar stated earlier this month that exports would account for nearly all of its revenue this year.

Baykar has produced over 400 TB2s to date, the company said. It is currently attempting to increase its production capacity, which it intends to achieve in part with a plant in Ukraine.

Baykar’s CEO previously said that the company is currently capable of producing nearly 200 Bayraktar TB2s every year. The Turkish firm intends to increase this number to 500.

Hii ni kwa mujibu wa Eurasian times

Wikipedia wanasema kuna zaidi ya tb2 300 zimeshazalishwa na baykar.

Madai yako ya kuwa uturuki hajatengeneza tb2 100 mpk sasa hv umeyatoa wapi!?

Bwana we![emoji16]

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Hii KO
Hem ngoja ningoje jibu lake kwanza

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Bugucha said:

Ungekuwa mwanamke ww,mbususu yako ingechakaa kwa kupigwa miti, yaani unavyoipambia west!!,[emoji706]

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Mkuu wewe unawapamba waarabu halafu mtoto wa kiume waarabu wamekufanya nini si unajua kwao Waafrika mpaka leo ni watumwa

Don Vill said:

Foolish and mentally retarded you

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Kunywa maji yakutosha dogo

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T14 Armata said:

Huyu ni nani? Sasa zimetoka wapi hizo drones? Kwenye dunia yako ni kwamba hakuna drones za Iran zipo Russia. Baki kwenye dunia hiyohiyo, haiwezekani leo useme hiki, kesho kile. Unakuwa kama benderaView attachment 2367368

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Sijaelewa uhusiano wa koment yang hii na hio screen shot uloileta. Sijaelewa uhusiano

Nilikua sijasoma maandishi MKUU mie kusema kwamba hakuna Dronea za IRAN imezihirika kama sio fact na fact imedhihirika kwamba drones zipo na zinapiga kazi.

Ila tunarejelea pale pale kwako ulivyo zishusha hadhi drones za IRAN kana kwamba unazijua saana MKUU.

Kama hata biibisii wanasema RUSSIA wameishiwa silaha wakat waongo mie nani niwe na full data za yanayoendelea huko.

Mada kuu ilikua hii usiikwepe MKUU hizo drones za IRAN zipo dhaifu kama ulivyodai ama uliendeshwa tu na hisia chuki au biibiisii walikudanganya kama kawaida yao !!!??

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ITR said:

Haaa mkuu huwa mnanichekesha na huyu jamaa yako.
Katika sekta ambazo Urusi anazipuuza ni sekta ya drone yaani jamaa hawana muda nazo sijui kwanini ila naamini baada ya hii vita hawatarudia kuipuuza hii sekta na tutegemee uwekezaji mkubwa kwenye hiyo sekta.

Ila tuambizane ukweli mkuu uliziponda sana drone za Iran ila sasa hivi zipo zina wahenyesha kwenye uwanja wa vita.

Leo hasubuhi zimefanya uharibufu mkubwa sana kwenye mji wa Odessa.

Na ndizo zimevi kwamisha vikosi vya Ukraine kulidhibiti jiji la liyminal kwenye mkoa wa karkiv.

Juzi wizara ya ulinzi ya Urusi ilichapisha video ya drone za Iran zikiharibu msafara wa vifaru na mizinga vya Ukraine huko kherson, na jana hiyo hiyo rais wa Ukraine akatangaza kupunguza uhusiano wa kidpromasia na Iran.
Ila sasa hivi nasikia Ukraine imeagiza mfumo wa ulinzi wenye uwezo mkubwa wa kuharibu drone kutoka Israel ngoja tuone ufanishi wake.

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T14 Armata Ila tuambizane ukweli mkuu uliziponda sana drone za Iran ila sasa hivi zipo zina wahenyesha kwenye uwanja wa vita.

(pitia hii states ya huyu jamaa na hii ndio nnalouliza mie achana na mie kwamba hazipo ukweli umejulikana kua zipo na zinaonesha ufanisi sasa tunataka tujue mwenzetu ulianza kuziponda kabla hazijaanza kupiga Kazi zikiwa tu tetesi)

Uzuri wa hii ishu ipo field yaani haifichiki jambo kama lipo nisuala la muda tu linajulikana kama hilo la drones za IRAN limekuja juu zipo hapa nimekosea mie ila kua na ufanisi umekosea wewe hatupo sahihi 100% koz wote tunalishwa taarifa ila field huko tunapata matokeo yanaendeleaje

Ndugu ITR huyu bwana hapa kawa mtani wangu sababu hajawahi nitukana wala kunijibu hovyo hata kama najua kuna muda namkwaza ama ananikwaza kama binaadam ndio maana naenda nae sawa tunapishana kwa hoja hata kama hazitakua sawa na tutatofautiana ila heshma ipo

Ndugu T14 Armata tuko pamoja MKUU kama tutakwazana kawaida kibinaadamu unisamehe mie hujanikosea ila unasameheka sana
Nakubali kutokukubaliana maadam hatutukanani mzee

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I REPEAT-IRAN KING OF DRONE
The problem of the use of loitering ammunition has reached a new level for the Armed Forces of Ukraine due to the complete inability to resist them. Recommendations have been issued to the public on how to reduce the risk from them:

When approaching a kamikaze drone, as a rule, you can hear the operation of its engine (the sound is similar to the operation of a moped)

You should assess the situation around, stay away from administrative buildings, strategic and military facilities

Find shelter where to wait out the raid.

T14 Armata said:

Msimamo wangu ni huu mpaka sasa. Mnasema niliziponda na sioni mkionyesha, au nyie mnaelewaje yani.

Russia itakuwa ni kilaza zaidi kwenye drones kama hizi cheap Iranian suicide drones zinaonekana game changer kupitiliza. Drones hata wale Houthi pale Yemen wanazo na mwezi huu kwenye military parade yao kubwa zilikuwepo nyingi tu. Iran simuweki kwenye top 4 ya mabingwa wa dronesView attachment 2367540

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MKUU zinaweza zisiingie ama usiziweke hata 10 ila bado zimeonesha ufanisi mkubwa sana katika muda mchache
Tofauti na ulivyozielezea awali kanakwamba hakuna kipya toka kwazo ama zahovyo

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Nkuba25 said:

Mwenzako vunjo analetega hapa habari ambazo kwa siku ya jana tu Russians wamepoteza ndege zaidi ya 20.

Sasa tukuamini wewe au tumuamini huyo vunjo

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Bwana Utam said:

Sijaelewa uhusiano wa koment yang hii na hio screen shot uloileta
Sijaelewa uhusiano
Nilikua sijasoma maandishi MKUU mie kusema kwamba hakuna Dronea za IRAN imezihirika kama sio fact na fact imedhihirika kwamba drones zipo na zinapiga kazi
Ila tunarejelea pale pale kwako ulivyo zishusha hadhi drones za IRAN kana kwamba unazijua saana MKUU
Kama hata biibisii wanasema RUSSIA wameishiwa silaha wakat waongo mie nani niwe na full data za yanayoendelea huko
Mada kuu ilikua hii usiikwepe MKUU hizo drones za IRAN zipo dhaifu kama ulivyodai ama uliendeshwa tu na hisia chuki au biibiisii walikudanganya kama kawaida yao !!!??

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Nishakuonesha ulipojichanganya. Nami nionyeshe wapi nilisema drones za Iran ni dhaifu. Na ungejua msimamo wangu ni upi, dhaifu kulingana na za nani.

Kwahiyo unataka kusema kwamba Iran ina drones zinazozidi za Israel au Turkey? Mnapenda ubishi usio na msingi. Houthi nao wana drones, Hezbollah nao wana drones, mtu akilinganisha drone ya Houthi na ya China unaona zinalingana? Hapo superior na inferior huoni

⚡️Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation in Ukraine
(September 25, 2022)

Part 1 (read Part 2)

◽️The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.

💥More than a hundred militants and 15 pieces of military equipment have been eliminated by a missile strike on a temporary deployment point of foreign mercenaries near Zaporozhye.

💥 A repair and restoration point of the 72nd Mechanised Brigade of the AFU has been hit by the high-precision weapons of the Russian Aerospace Forces near Annovka (Donetsk People's Republic). It has destroyed up to 50 fighters and 28 pieces of military equipment.

💥Attempt at an offensive by the 79th Airborne Assault Brigade of the AFU has been disrupted by concentrated fire strikes by Russian artillery in the direction of Maryinka (Donetsk People's Republic). The enemy has lost over 50 militants.

💥 High-precision strikes by the Russian Aerospace Force against permanent deployment points and communication centers of the 46th Air Mobilization Brigade and the 60th Infantry Brigade of the AFU near Bezymennoye, Mirolyubovka and Osokorovka (Kherson Region), has resulted in the elimination of more than 30 militants and five units of military equipment. In all, the Armed Forces of Ukraine lost more than 110 people, including the wounded ones, as well as 13 pieces of military equipment in the direction of Nikolayev-Krivoy Rog.

💥Operational-tactical and army aviation, missile troopes and artillery strikes has resulted in the elimination of command post of a battalion of the 80th Airborne Assault Brigade of the AFU near Nikolayev, temporary deployment points of foreign mercenaries and the 10th Mountain Assault Brigade of the AFU near Zaporozhye and Druzhkovka (Donetsk People's Republic), as well as 33 artillery units, manpower and military equipment in 178 areas.

◽️A HIMARS MLRS launching system has been struck in its firing position near Yavkino (Nikolaev region).

💥Seven artillery platoons at the firing positions of the 57th Mechanised Infantry Brigade, 10th Mountain Assault Brigade, 24th Mechanised Brigade of the AFU and 102nd Territorial Defense Brigade near Lyubimovka (Dnepropetrovsk region), Markovo, Maiskoe (Donetsk People's Republic), Shevchenkovo in (Nykolayev region), Zatishye and Rovnopolye (Zaporozhye region) have been struck during counter-battery operation.


💥In addition, an Osa-AKM air defence missile launcher near Novosyolovka (Zaporozhye region), two munitions depots near Antonovka and Andreevka (Donetsk People's Republic), an air defence radar station near Krasnoarmeysk (Donetsk People's Republic), and the Ukrainian Navy's Gyurza armoured boat near the port of Ochakov were destroyed as well.

◽️Two MiG-29 airplanes of the Ukrainian Air Force converted to use American HARM anti-radar missiles have been shot by fighter aircraft of the Russian Air Force near Novoukrainka and Bashtanka (Nikolayev region).

💥 Russian Air Defenсe Forces shot down 12 unmanned aerial vehicles near Yasinovataya, Staromlinovka, Novotroitskoye, Kirillovka, Yegorovka (Donetsk People's Republic), Mayachka (Zaporozhye region), Davydov brod, Malokakhovka, Charivnoye and Mikhailovka (Kherson region).

◽️21 shells of multiple launch rocket systems, including 18 HIMARS missiled near Novaya Kakhovka (Kherson region), and Valeryanovka (Donetsk People's Republic), and three Olha missiles near Guselskoye and Neskuchnoye (Donetsk People's Republic) have been also intercepted in the air.

◽️Three American anti-radar HARM missiles were shot down near Novaya Kakhovka (Kherson region), and Svatovo (Lugansk People's Republic).

#MoD #Russia #Ukraine
@mod_russia_en

Bwana Utam said:

MKUU zinaweza zisiingie ama usiziweke hata 10 ila bado zimeonesha ufanisi mkubwa sana katika muda mchache
Tofauti na ulivyozielezea awali kanakwamba hakuna kipya toka kwazo ama zahovyo

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Sasa mkuu mkisema naziponda mnakosea. Ni kwamba Iran compared na mabingwa wa drones hayupo top 4 kwa maoni yangu ya siku zote humu. Sikuwahi sema Iran ni kilaza kwenye drones wala hajui kitu. Hata Russia yenyewe siioni top 4

T14 Armata said:

Nishakuonesha ulipojichanganya. Nami nionyeshe wapi nilisema drones za Iran ni dhaifu. Na ungejua msimamo wangu ni upi, dhaifu kulingana na za nani.

Kwahiyo unataka kusema kwamba Iran ina drones zinazozidi za Israel au Turkey? Mnapenda ubishi usio na msingi. Houthi nao wana drones, Hezbollah nao wana drones, mtu akilinganisha drone ya Houthi na ya China unaona zinalingana? Hapo superior na inferior huoni

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Ungesema toka awali unalinganisha nazanani tujue
Au tuoneshe ulisema dhaifu mbele yazanani tutengue kauli zetu
Nakumbuka hukusema dhaifu mbele za nani kama kuna sehem ulisema ilete tuione mzeee


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T14 Armata said:

Sasa mkuu mkisema naziponda mnakosea. Ni kwamba Iran compared na mabingwa wa drones hayupo top 4 kwa maoni yangu ya siku zote humu. Sikuwahi sema Iran ni kilaza kwenye drones wala hajui kitu. Hata Russia yenyewe siioni top 4

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Sidhanii kama awali uliyasema haya
Ila IRAN kutokuepo kwenye top4 haishangazi

Ila inashangaza kama atakuepo hata kwenye top50

Nadhani unaifuatulia IRAN hali inayopitia kisiasa kijamii na kiuchumi
Kitaifa na kimataifa kwahio kama ungeelezea haya mwanzo nahisi tungejua tunambezaje huyu mtu ama tunamsifiaje huyu mtu IRAN
IRAN kama anashika top20 kwahali alio nayo yakuandamwa jamaa anastahili pongezi haswaaa

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Pietro said:

Mimi kama proRussia napinga hii taarifa,si tulikubaliana Ndege za Russia zimefungwa mifumo ya Umeme (Khibiny EWS) ya kuzima mpaka Meli (USS Donald Cook) sasa inakuaje zinashindwa kuzima mifumo ya vikombora vya zamani kama Stingers?!

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Umewasaidia tu ila nimesubiri atokee ngumbaru aseme ni propaganda nimchape na kitu kizito kichwani bahati nzuri wamekimbia

Bwana Utam said:

Sidhanii kama awali uliyasema haya
Ila IRAN kutokuepo kwenye top4 haishangazi
Ila inashangaza kama atakuepo hata kwenye top50
Nadhani unaifuatulia IRAN hali inayopitia kisiasa kijamii na kiuchumi
Kitaifa na kimataifa kwahio kama ungeelezea haya mwanzo nahisi tungejua tunambezaje huyu mtu ama tunamsifiaje huyu mtu IRAN
IRAN kama anashika top20 kwahali alio nayo yakuandamwa jamaa anastahili pongezi haswaaa

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Sasa mbona unatia huruma mkuu. Mambo ya kulilia Iran inachopitia yanaingiaje kwenye case hii unayoniita muongo. Unatakiwa utoe proof ya unachodai nilisema, sio maneno yako ya "sidhani kama uliyasema haya".

Nimekuwekea screen shot. Unadhania nini na evidence hii hapa?

Inasemekana tatizo kubwa kweye hizi IRANIAN DRONES ni zinaendeshwa na wa Iran wenyewe wenye uzoefu nazo ambao walienda Russia kwa makubaliano ya diplomasia kati ya Urusi na Iran.

Ila zile DRONES ZA TURKEY walizituma na kuwapa Ukrain maelekezo tu jinsi ya kuzitumia hvyo walikosa zile advanced skills ya kuzitumia effectively, by the time wanaanza kuzizoea tayari Urusi alishakaribia kuzimaliza kwa kuziyeyusha na nyingine kuzilipua zikiwa kwenye depots.

T14 Armata said:

Sasa mkuu mkisema naziponda mnakosea. Ni kwamba Iran compared na mabingwa wa drones hayupo top 4 kwa maoni yangu ya siku zote humu. Sikuwahi sema Iran ni kilaza kwenye drones wala hajui kitu. Hata Russia yenyewe siioni top 4

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Mkuu usijitoe ufahamu drone zote zinazo tumiwa na Hizbulah na huthi zote ni kitoka Iran na kama wanatengeneza wao basi fomla zote zinatoka Iran.

Tahathari kwa Israel afanye kila liwezekanalo hizi drone za kamkaze za kiiran zisifike mikononi mwa Hamas atajuta kuzaliwa.

Lakini pia mkuu na kumbuka Marekani ilipeleka drone aina ya kamkaze ndani ya Ukraine kama sikosei ilikuwa mwezi wa 5 lakini zilishindwa kuonesha matokeo chanya,hata drone za kituruki zilionesha kuwa tishio mwanzoni lakini sasa hivi naona kama vile ufanisi wake umepungua.