Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?
Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?
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Msulibasi
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Nuke ikipigwa hakuna mwingine atakayethubutu kupiga . Haipigwi mara mbili . Atakayewahi kupiga Ndio kapiga tena. Hujui mambo mengi BADO hujui maswala ya security na maswala ya kimataifa. Ikishatokea janga kama hilo Dunia nzima itakuwa katika kulaani na kutaka kuwajibisha wahusika sio kupiga nuke nyingine. Nuke ina madhara ya kidunia sio kwa nchi
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Kwahiyo ule msafara wa vifaru na mizinga uliokua unaenda Kiev ulikua unaenda kufanya nn kama Nia ilikua si kuikamata Kiev?!
Malengo ya Russia alisema wazi wakati siku Putin anahutubia Taifa kuingiza majeshi ndani ya mipaka ya Ukraine kwamba malengo makuu ni
1) Kulinda warusi waonakaa kwenye hizo anazoziota DPR na LPR - mpaka sasa ana LPR tu,DPR anayo Nusu nusu iliyobaki ipo chini ya Ukraine na Ukraine baada ya counteroffensive wamechukua sehemu zaidi na sasa wapo njiani kuwazunguka wanajeshi wa Urusi waliopo Lyman.
2) Denazification - kuondoa utawala wa Zelenksy ambao kwenye hotuba yake Putin aliuita utawala katili wa kinazi unaoongozwa na Zelenksy tena alienda mbali akitaka wanajeshi wa Ukraine wampindue Rais wao.
Juzi wamewaachia POW wakiwemo walewale waliowatuhumu (Azov) Kwa unazi. Sasa sijui malengo yamebadilika sio unazi tena[emoji38]
3) Demilitarisation - Hili hajafanikiwa mpaka sasa Ukraine ina zana nzuri za kivita na bado inasonga mbele sehemu zote Kherson pia Kharkiv. Wamefanya counter offensive Kwa mafanikio makubwa na kuchukua miji muhimu kama Izium na Kupiansk ambayo ilikua inatumika na warusi kusafirisha mahitaji ya wanajeshi wao kupitia reli. Now miji iko chini ya Ukraine.Mpaka sasa Urusi imeshindwa kabisa kupata air supremacy sababu Ulinzi wa anga wa Ukraine bado unafanya kazi. Ndege za Ukraine bado zinaruka japo Mwanzoni mwa Vita Russia ilidai kuharibu air force yote ya Ukraine
4) Kuzuia NATO kujitanua- matokeo yake yakawa tofauti,Kwa uvamizi wa Ukraine Putin alidhan angetisha nchi jirani zake hasa Finland na Sweden zisijiunge NATO na Urusi ilizitisha kabisa kwamba iwapo wangethubutu kujiunga NATO bhas zingeshughulikiwa kijeshi,lakini baada ya kuona udhaifu wa jeshi la Urusi vitani Finland na Sweden fasta zikaomba uanachama na karibuni watakua member wa NATO na kufanya mpaka wa NATO na Russia kuongezeka mara mbili.
Hayo ndo malengo ya Putin aliyosema siku anahutubia Taifa usiku February 24 sasa kwenye hayo Pima mwenyewe kwenye hiyo aliyoiita SMO lipi limetimia kwa 100%
27 Sep, 2022 14:25
Putin names Russia’s top priority in Donbass referendums
Moscow’s main focus is keeping people safe, the president says
Residents of Severodonetsk cast their ballots at a polling station. © Sputnik/Valery Melnikov
Saving people’s lives is at the forefront of Russia’s attention when it comes to the referendums being held in the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s republics and the Russian-controlled regions of Zaporozhye and Kherson, President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday.
“In the context of the special military operation and referendums in Donbass, saving people in all territories, namely saving people in all territories where this referendum is being held, is at the forefront,” Putin said, adding it is the “focus of attention of our entire society, the entire country.”
He added that this level of concern is “natural” in light of recent “dramatic events,” and reiterated Moscow’s position that the referendums, set to conclude on Tuesday, are ultimately meant to protect the local population and bring peace to the region.
Referendums on joining the Russian Federation have been underway in the Donetsk and Lugansk republics, as well as Zaporozhye and Kherson Regions, since Friday. The votes are similar to the one that took place in Crimea in March 2014, when residents of the peninsula overwhelmingly voted to rejoin Russia and secede from Kiev’s rule. According to preliminary results announced by the electoral committees, the turnout in the DPR was reportedly over 80% by the fourth day of voting, while it exceeded 90% in the LPR.
Putin has said that Moscow will support any outcome and will welcome the regions should they vote to join Russian. Moscow has also signaled that if the two republics and regions do join, it would consider an assault on those areas to be an attack on its territory and would respond to defend itself.
A number of Western leaders, including US President Joe Biden, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and French President Emmanuel Macron, have condemned the referendums as illegitimate and undemocratic and have vowed to “never recognize” the results
Putin names Russia’s top priority in Donbass referendums
Moscow’s main focus is keeping people safe, the president says
Residents of Severodonetsk cast their ballots at a polling station. © Sputnik/Valery Melnikov
Saving people’s lives is at the forefront of Russia’s attention when it comes to the referendums being held in the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s republics and the Russian-controlled regions of Zaporozhye and Kherson, President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday.
“In the context of the special military operation and referendums in Donbass, saving people in all territories, namely saving people in all territories where this referendum is being held, is at the forefront,” Putin said, adding it is the “focus of attention of our entire society, the entire country.”
He added that this level of concern is “natural” in light of recent “dramatic events,” and reiterated Moscow’s position that the referendums, set to conclude on Tuesday, are ultimately meant to protect the local population and bring peace to the region.
Referendums on joining the Russian Federation have been underway in the Donetsk and Lugansk republics, as well as Zaporozhye and Kherson Regions, since Friday. The votes are similar to the one that took place in Crimea in March 2014, when residents of the peninsula overwhelmingly voted to rejoin Russia and secede from Kiev’s rule. According to preliminary results announced by the electoral committees, the turnout in the DPR was reportedly over 80% by the fourth day of voting, while it exceeded 90% in the LPR.
Putin has said that Moscow will support any outcome and will welcome the regions should they vote to join Russian. Moscow has also signaled that if the two republics and regions do join, it would consider an assault on those areas to be an attack on its territory and would respond to defend itself.
A number of Western leaders, including US President Joe Biden, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and French President Emmanuel Macron, have condemned the referendums as illegitimate and undemocratic and have vowed to “never recognize” the results
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Sijui lakini Ila Russia sio mjinga alipue miundombinu yake yote ya Gas kwenda Ulaya (mabomba yote matatu) wakati msimu wa baridi unakuja angetumia gas kama silaha ya kutaka vikwazo viondolewe ili awape Gas. Na juzi hapa Putin alitamka kwamba wakiondoa vikwazo anafungua Gas kupitia Nord Stream 2,sasa Nord stream 2 na yenyewe Leo imelipuka
T14 Armata
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Air defence systems ziko wapi hawa super power. Si ndio wanasema wana the best duniani
Axel Lloyd
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Hahahaha bro Harpoon ni defensive weapon ndio maana Russia imekimbiza Meli zake na kuzipeleka mbali kabisa baada ya Ukraine kupewa Makombora ya Harpoon. Wewe hujiulizi siku za hivi karibuni kwanini hatuoni activities nyingi za Russian Navy kama kipindi kile wanaanza kuvamia,Meli Vita zilikua zikifurumusha Makombora km hazina akili nzuri hlf linganisha sasa,jibu unalo!!!!
Ngoja tuone baada ya hizo DPR na LPR kujiunga na RF nini kitajiri,Je aliyetishia nyuklia ataitumia na je aliyesema kwamba ataendelea kuyashambulia hayo maeneo atatimiza ahadi yake... Tuupe muda nafasi.
Putin hajamu-outsmart yeyote ndio maana ss hivi anabeba mpaka wakulima anataka wakapigane Vita baada ya SMO kushindwa.
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Unarahisisha mambo sana . Ishu ni KUMTOA Russia Ukraine . Je Ukraine ana cha kufanya kabla ya impact ya mobilization yaani ana siku kama kumi Ukraine afanye JAMBO kubwa zaidi ya hapo KACHELEWA . Russia kaanza kutoa VITU store kubwa vikitua ni mayowe tu huko
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Hahaha HARM ilishazila kichwa siku nyingi mpaka ikabidi Super power akachukue air defense yake aliyompa Syria na kuchomoa baadhi ya Air defenses zinazolinda miji yake kama St Petersburg na kuzipeleka Ukraine.
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Kama walimkimbiza Kiev,wakamkimbiza Kharkiv, wakamkimbiza Izium wakambalasa Kupiansk huko kwingine ni suala la muda tu.
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Ili aendelee atalazimika afanye purges kwenye jeshi na serikalini. Hata akitoka akamuacha mtu neutral anaweza pata lawama au kesi kama Khruschev alivyofanya Destalinization baada ya Stalin kufa na akarithiwa na mtu asiyemuiga.
Mtikisiko lazima uwepo hasa ukizingatia Russia ni Federation ile. Tena Federation ambayo Chechnya walishawahi kutaka kujitenga. Kadyrov uko kwao alikataa mobilization anasema walishapeleka watu wengi kabla haijasainiwa. Kuna maeneo yana hisia tofauti na Moscow au St. Petersburg.
Likeness ya Putin kuendelea ni kubwa ila itategemea na response anayopata kimataifa. Kama vikwazo vitazidi hali ikawa mbaya, within the upper echelon kuna wasiokuwa satisfied with the situation. Ni uchumi tu utamuharibia, Russians wengi wana akili kama zake kuhusu vita
27 Sep, 2022 19:39
Donbass referendums’ results revealed
The republics previously recognized by Moscow have opted to join Russia, based on preliminary polls
A woman at the exit voting in the Lugansk Republican Clinical Hospital at the referendum on the entry of the Lugansk People's Republic into the Russian Federation. © Sputnik/Valery Melnikov
The majority of citizens of both the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics (DPR and LPR) have supported the idea to unite with Russia, according to local election commissions.
In DPR, more than 98% of voters supported the idea to join Russia, according to early official figures. The referendum in LPR yielded a similar result, with more than 97% of voters supporting the potential reunification. In Lugansk, all the ballots have been already counted, according to local authorities, while Donetsk, so far, has processed just over a half of votes.
The polls were conducted in the republics, as well as in Moscow-controlled parts of Ukraine’s Zaporozhye and Kherson regions, between September 23 and 27.
Both republics, which broke away from Kiev in the aftermath of the 2014 Maidan coup and the conflict in Ukraine’s east that followed, have shown a turnout of over 80% for the referendums, official figures show.
Ukraine and its Western supporters have already rejected the referendums on joining Russia as a “sham” ballot, vowing to not recognize the results regardless of their outcome. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky warned that completion of the referendums by Russia would “make it impossible, in any case, to continue any diplomatic negotiations” with Moscow.
Russia sent troops into Ukraine on February 24, citing Kiev’s failure to implement the Minsk agreements, designed to give the regions of Donetsk and Lugansk special status within the Ukrainian state. The protocols, brokered by Germany and France, were first signed in 2014. Former Ukrainian President Pyotr Poroshenko has since admitted that Kiev’s main goal was to use the ceasefire to buy time and “create powerful armed forces.”
In February 2022, the Kremlin recognized the Donbass republics as independent states and demanded that Ukraine officially declare itself a neutral country that will never join any Western military bloc. Kiev insists the Russian offensive was completely unprovoked
Donbass referendums’ results revealed
The republics previously recognized by Moscow have opted to join Russia, based on preliminary polls
A woman at the exit voting in the Lugansk Republican Clinical Hospital at the referendum on the entry of the Lugansk People's Republic into the Russian Federation. © Sputnik/Valery Melnikov
The majority of citizens of both the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics (DPR and LPR) have supported the idea to unite with Russia, according to local election commissions.
In DPR, more than 98% of voters supported the idea to join Russia, according to early official figures. The referendum in LPR yielded a similar result, with more than 97% of voters supporting the potential reunification. In Lugansk, all the ballots have been already counted, according to local authorities, while Donetsk, so far, has processed just over a half of votes.
The polls were conducted in the republics, as well as in Moscow-controlled parts of Ukraine’s Zaporozhye and Kherson regions, between September 23 and 27.
Both republics, which broke away from Kiev in the aftermath of the 2014 Maidan coup and the conflict in Ukraine’s east that followed, have shown a turnout of over 80% for the referendums, official figures show.
Ukraine and its Western supporters have already rejected the referendums on joining Russia as a “sham” ballot, vowing to not recognize the results regardless of their outcome. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky warned that completion of the referendums by Russia would “make it impossible, in any case, to continue any diplomatic negotiations” with Moscow.
Russia sent troops into Ukraine on February 24, citing Kiev’s failure to implement the Minsk agreements, designed to give the regions of Donetsk and Lugansk special status within the Ukrainian state. The protocols, brokered by Germany and France, were first signed in 2014. Former Ukrainian President Pyotr Poroshenko has since admitted that Kiev’s main goal was to use the ceasefire to buy time and “create powerful armed forces.”
In February 2022, the Kremlin recognized the Donbass republics as independent states and demanded that Ukraine officially declare itself a neutral country that will never join any Western military bloc. Kiev insists the Russian offensive was completely unprovoked
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[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]Kaka hata Hilo unashindwa kulielewa?!
Kwanini hizo Meli hazikuondoshwa kabla mpaka Harpoon zilipopelekwa hapo Odessa. Kwani ulikua hujui kama Russia ilikua imeweka naval blockade kwenye hilo eneo,au unajisahaulisha?!
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Kosa lao lilianzia kushindwa kuweka anti A2AD na kupata air dominance. Runways zipo, bases zipo na ndege zipo. Ni mwendo wa kuviziana hewani.
Badala washambulie military infrastructure walikuwa busy na kulipua masoko na makazi ya raia
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Alisikika banyamulenge mmoja baada kufurumushwa misitu ya Congo
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Alisikika banyamulenge mmoja toka misitu ya Congo