Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[CARDLESS]

Wenye akili sasa wanaona umuhimu wa Kutumia njia ya Amani na kwamba hakuna namna yoyote ile UKRAINE atatoboa.
Wale wajinga wajinga wa Kutoka NAKURU, KERICHO, KIBELA nk waache kelele zao, Pia kuna Chizi mmoja sijui anaitwa T Armata sijui nani aache ujinga.

Watu wameona wazi URUSI anafanya mazoezi tu lkn inakoendea ataingia Full na hapo ndio msala huo.

 

[Mrengwa wa kulia]

Wenye akili sasa wanaona umuhimu wa Kutumia njia ya Amani na kwamba hakuna namna yoyote ile UKRAINE atatoboa.
Wale wajinga wajinga wa Kutoka NAKURU, KERICHO, KIBELA nk waache kelele zao, Pia kuna Chizi mmoja sijui anaitwa T Armata sijui nani aache ujinga.

Watu wameona wazi URUSI anafanya mazoezi tu lkn inakoendea ataingia Full na hapo ndio msala huo.View attachment 2376516

mikwara as usual.

 

[CARDLESS]

mikwara as usual.

Mikwara hiyo ameitoa nani mzee??

 

[1954]

What a news!!!!

The end of Ukraine as a state, nation and country is at the corner...a self destruction strategy....pitty Ukraine...it will be erased from the map and history ...once upon a time there was a country by the name of Ukraine .

 

[D A E M U S H I N]

Huenda macho yangu yana makengeza...
Nimemuona raisi na mshauri wake anayeitwa arestovych

 

[HIMARS]

Hizi drone za Iran naona siku za hivi karibuni zimeanza kupoteza ufanisi,halafu naona zinashushwa nzima nzima...itakua zile systems za Electronic warfare ambazo Ukraine alipewa na Marekani na Uingereza zinafanya kazi ipasavyo

Kitachofanyika ni return to sender

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[HIMARS]

What a news!!!!

Ni kwamba Ukraine wameomba zile atacms, na kwamba watatoa taarifa na kushirikiana na Marekani sehemu zote watazotaka piga kabla hawajapiga

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[kp kipanya44]

Hizi zinazoshambuliwa ni zile wananchi wake walipiga kura zikabadilika kuwa Urusi?

Yeah, hujakosea,

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[Jesus Mlokozi]

⚡⚡⚡Vladimir Putin is expected to make an urgent address to the nation and the army immediately after the LNR, DPR and Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions officially join Russia.

The Federation Council is scheduled to meet on 4 October to finalize the legal incorporation of the new regions.

🔸 Social media are discussing that official registration of the territories as part of the Russian Federation could be a reason to introduce martial law or declare Ukraine a terrorist state and introduce the CTO regime (in Chechnya, the CTO lasted 10 years and during it the air force, artillery, tank troops, airborne troops, special forces, and high-powered weapons were used).

🔸 Martial law is imposed in case of aggression or attempted aggression against Russia, including an invasion or attack by the armed forces of a foreign state on Russian territory. Depending on the level of threat, the President of Russia has the right to determine the borders of martial law - it will be either the territory of hostilities with the border regions (Rostov, Kursk, Belgorod, Bryansk with or without Crimea) or the entire territory of the country.

In the USSR, martial law was declared at the beginning of the Great Patriotic War. It has never been declared in modern Russia.⚡⚡⚡

 

[Jesus Mlokozi]

🇷🇺🇰🇵The DPRK Foreign Ministry welcomed the entry of new regions into Russia and declared respect for the will of their inhabitants. Pyongyang believes that the referendums were held in accordance with the UN Charter.

 

[Detective J]

Wenye akili sasa wanaona umuhimu wa Kutumia njia ya Amani na kwamba hakuna namna yoyote ile UKRAINE atatoboa.
Wale wajinga wajinga wa Kutoka NAKURU, KERICHO, KIBELA nk waache kelele zao, Pia kuna Chizi mmoja sijui anaitwa T Armata sijui nani aache ujinga.

Watu wameona wazi URUSI anafanya mazoezi tu lkn inakoendea ataingia Full na hapo ndio msala huo.View attachment 2376516

Urusi anafanya mazoezi tu [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

 

[Mrengwa wa kulia]

we are under attack. kherson is Down..... I repeat kherson is down
we need retreat order... Over

 

[kp kipanya44]

we are under attack. kherson is Down..... I repeat kherson is down
we need retreat order... Over

Duh! Anguko la kheson litakuwa ni aibu kubwa sana kwa super pawer wa mchongo,

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[Mag3]

Ni wapi Mag3 amekufanya hadi utumie lugha ya mauzi? Hivi umesoma majibizano yake na yule Idiot toddler anaejita Mulokozi.Mnapotaka kujifunza kwa walio wazidi kwa uelewa njooni na hoja za maana na siyo kuleta utoto utoto kwenye mijadala yenye kujenga afya ya akili.Sijui ni nani kawadanganyeni mnavyoflood comments zisizo na kichwa wala miguu mnapojibiwa kwa hoja nzito mnaishia kuleta lugha za kipuuzi.I miss my old Jambo Forums kwa kweli.

Unajua hawa vijana, kama wangeacha tu kukurupuka na kusoma comments kwa utulivu wangegundua matatu kuhusu Mag3!

1. Mag3 ni mtu anayechukia utawala wa kiimla haijalishi mhusika ni mweusi, mwekundu au mweupe!
2. Mag3 ni mtu anayeunga mkono utawala wa sheria unaozingatia na kuheshimu Katiba ya nchi.
3. Mag3, hana unafiki...koleo ataliita kwa jina lake na nyani giledi atamkoma bila ya kumtazama uso.

Humu JF, ID yangu ni ile ile na sijawahi kutumia nyingine kwa sababu siamini nina cha kuogopa kama nasema ukweli, katika hilo sina unafiki!

Ni wachache sana humu wanaoijua historia ya Jamii Forums baada ya mtangulizi wake Jambo Forums kupewa msukosuko na serikali ya CCM.

Kwa bahati mbaya kuna kundi limekuja kuivamia JF kwa lengo la kuidhoofisha na sasa kauli mbiu ya nguvu ya hoja imebadilishwa kuwa hoja za nguvu.

Udikteta haujawahi kufanikiwa popote pale na kama walivyoondoka Hitler, Sadam, Emporer Bokasa, Idi Amin Dada na wengineo, hivyo hivyo ataondoka Putin.

 

[MR MAJANGA]

Personal Analysis 🤗

Niko open kupokea mawazo ya wengine pia.

Ni kwamba kuna kitu nilikuwa nakiwaza, tukiangalia toka kutangazwa kwa referendum progress za kuchukua maeneo zaidi upande wa wa jeshi la Urusi na LPR/DPR people's militia ni kama umepungua hivi.

Na kitu ambacho tunakiona ni kama jeshi la Ukraine limeingia baadhi ya maeneo ambayo yapo ndani ya maeneo mapya ya Russia Federation. So swali langu likawa what's going on... Nini Russia anawaza? As we know ngumu sana ku'predict kila "move" wanayofanya hadi pale tukio litokee ndio twajua hivi na vile.

So, here my personal analysis au niseme thoughts zinazokuja akilini mwangu...

Najaribu kuvaa uhusika wa Upande wa Russia. Kwa yanayo endelea lau ningekuwa mie ningekua na plan zipi!

Turejee nyuma kidogo katika kuwaleta karibu na hiki nachokiwaza.
Wakati Russia anaingia Ukraine alitangaza hii kua ni SMO. Operation maana ake ikawa inamlazim kutumia limited force, limited equipments, to the extents of limiting military targets.

In context of SMO, kuna maswali mengi mie na wengine tumekua tukijiuliza mbona Russia hafanyi hivi mbona Russia hafanyi vile. Vitu ambavyo kwa baadhi wamekua wanavitafsiri kama Udhaifu hasa harakati zote zikipambwa na media katika mwonekano huo.

Lakini yote hayo kwa jicho pana binafsi naweza kusema ni kitanzi alichojiwekea mwenyewe. Hapa nikiwa na maama ya Frameworks of Special Military Operation.

Huko nadhani tumeelewana sasa turudi kwenye point yangu...!

Toka last week, kinchoendelea kwa Russia ni kama vile anataka kubadili mwelekeo wa kile ambacho wengi wanakiona. Its like soon tutashuhudia Russia akijivua ukimya aliofunika mikononi mwake mda mrefu.

Ni kwa mara ya kwanza majuzi kati tumeona Russia akizipiga critical infrastructure za Ukraine kisha akatulia kimyaaa. Then akatangaza referendum kufanyika katika hayo maeneo ma 4.

Ukiunganisha dot ya referendum na wao ku-withdrawal kutoka kwenye maeneo yaliopo kwenye mikoa yao mpya hiyo kwa jicho la ziada naona ni kama "bait" anayotengenezewa Ukraine. Inakuwa like let them in upate sababu ya kumpiga.

Referendum ikiwa ina imply kua hizo regions zitakuwa in Russia Federation na uwepo wa jeshi la Ukraine eneo hilo ukiwa una maanisha uvamizi katika ardhi ya Russia. So inakuwa kama 'trump' card kwa Russia ku'declare Kiev regime kama terrorist organization hivyo kubadili course ya SMO na kua defensive operation of Russian Territory ambayo Russia according to their constitution watajipa haki ya kutumia their full potential, their full power.

Huku zile limits walizo kua wamejiwekea awali kwa jina la SMO zikitoweka.

I guess soon tutaona deployment of modern equipments maeneo hayo na fighting gonna be fierce zaidi ya mwanzo.

Ni mtazamo wangu tu hadi kufikia Jmos nitarudi kuji-prove wrong ama right kwa kile kitakacho tokea.

Siku zote mda huwa ni mwalim mzuri.

Hili hata Mimi nimeliona mkuu Ila nahisi anatengeneza mtego, wakati mwingine nahisi anataka kutumia silaha Kali kuangamiza kundi la magaidi walioingia Russia, na wakati huo huo hawawezi kumfanya kitu maana hiyo silaha ya maangamizi kautumia ndani ya nchi yake ya urusi na Siyo nchi nyingine yeyote Ile, yaani yanaweza kufanyika mauaji ya kikatili Ila jumuiya za kimataifa zitashindwa kumlaumu Putin Kwa kuwa matukio yamefanyika ndani ya mipaka ya urusi

 

[pilato93]

hii SMO

Russia ataendelea kusumbuliwa sana na Ukraine kama Ukraine ataendelea kupokea misaada ya silaha na mafunzo toka kwa marekani na marafiki zake.
Hiyo mikoa iliyojitenga toka Ukraine na kujiunga na Russia haitakaa iwe na amani mpaka siku misaada ya silaha na fedha zitakapositishwa toka western.

Kwa maoni yangu Putin akitangaza vita kamili ndivyo hivyo hivyo marekani na jamaa zake watazidisha misaada ya silaha na mafunzo zaidi kwa waUkraine. Hii ngoma bado mbichi. Bora tubaki na SMO kuliko kutangaza vita. Maana aibu itakuwa kubwa zaidi.
Mimi naamini kabisa. Hii vita itaamuliwa mezani, japo sio siku za karibuni.
Mpaka sasa Russia chama langu wameniangusha na kututia aibu sisi mashabiki wake

Urusi yupo kwenye vita kamili mpaka mtu anafanya mobilization mnafikili ni project tu?

 

[Sigonella Island]

Naomba nikuulize swali dogo tu...kwa uelewa wako unadhani Putin anaweza kutoa agizo la mashambulizi ya nyuklia Marekani wasijue? Kweli unaamini Marekani na nchi za Ulaya Putin anaweza kuwashtukiza tu kwa mashambulizi ya nyuklia.

Kwa ufahamisho wako wewe na wajinga wenzio wanaomeza matango pori unayoyarusha humu, kila azimio linalofikiwa na Putin tayari linajulikana kwa Marekani na NATO. Russia haiko kwenye level hiyo unayoifikiria na mnajifurahisha tu.

Vipofu mnaongozana na kwa hilo hakuna cha ajabu...hamjui kuwa hamjui! Marekani inao watu hadi ndani ya serikali ya Putin na ukweli huo hata yeye Putin anaujua na ndio maana kazidisha propaganda za kujihami kwa kuwatumia hadi viongozi wa dini.

Nchini Russia hakuna uhuru wa kidini, je unajua sababu zake?

Acha ujuaji wewe eti marekani anawatu serikali ya Russia ukiambiwa thibitisha utaanza blah blah unaleta story za kijiweni

 

[Intuition]

Unajua hawa vijana, kama wangeacha tu kukurupuka na kusoma comments kwa utulivu wangegundua matatu kuhusu Mag3!

1. Mag3 ni mtu anayechukia utawala wa kiimla haijalishi mhusika ni mweusi, mwekundu au mweupe!
2. Mag3 ni mtu anayeunga mkono utawala wa sheria unaozingatia na kuheshimu Katiba ya nchi.
3. Mag3, hana unafiki...koleo ataliita kwa jina lake na nyani giledi atamkoma bila ya kumtazama uso.

Humu JF, ID yangu ni ile ile na sijawahi kutumia nyingine kwa sababu siamini nina cha kuogopa kama nasema ukweli, katika hilo sina unafiki!

Ni wachache sana humu wanaoijua historia ya Jamii Forums baada ya mtangulizi wake Jambo Forums kupewa msukosuko na serikali ya CCM.

Kwa bahati mbaya kuna kundi limekuja kuivamia JF kwa lengo la kuidhoofisha na sasa kauli mbiu ya nguvu ya hoja imebadilishwa kuwa hoja za nguvu.

Udikteta haujawahi kufanikiwa popote pale na kama walivyoondoka Hitler, Sadam, Emporer Bokasa, Idi Amin Dada na wengineo, hivyo hivyo ataondoka Putin.

Na kwa nini unamuita Putin dictator....???

 

[pilato93]

Personal Analysis 🤗

Niko open kupokea mawazo ya wengine pia.

Ni kwamba kuna kitu nilikuwa nakiwaza, tukiangalia toka kutangazwa kwa referendum progress za kuchukua maeneo zaidi upande wa wa jeshi la Urusi na LPR/DPR people's militia ni kama umepungua hivi.

Na kitu ambacho tunakiona ni kama jeshi la Ukraine limeingia baadhi ya maeneo ambayo yapo ndani ya maeneo mapya ya Russia Federation. So swali langu likawa what's going on... Nini Russia anawaza? As we know ngumu sana ku'predict kila "move" wanayofanya hadi pale tukio litokee ndio twajua hivi na vile.

So, here my personal analysis au niseme thoughts zinazokuja akilini mwangu...

Najaribu kuvaa uhusika wa Upande wa Russia. Kwa yanayo endelea lau ningekuwa mie ningekua na plan zipi!

Turejee nyuma kidogo katika kuwaleta karibu na hiki nachokiwaza.
Wakati Russia anaingia Ukraine alitangaza hii kua ni SMO. Operation maana ake ikawa inamlazim kutumia limited force, limited equipments, to the extents of limiting military targets.

In context of SMO, kuna maswali mengi mie na wengine tumekua tukijiuliza mbona Russia hafanyi hivi mbona Russia hafanyi vile. Vitu ambavyo kwa baadhi wamekua wanavitafsiri kama Udhaifu hasa harakati zote zikipambwa na media katika mwonekano huo.

Lakini yote hayo kwa jicho pana binafsi naweza kusema ni kitanzi alichojiwekea mwenyewe. Hapa nikiwa na maama ya Frameworks of Special Military Operation.

Huko nadhani tumeelewana sasa turudi kwenye point yangu...!

Toka last week, kinchoendelea kwa Russia ni kama vile anataka kubadili mwelekeo wa kile ambacho wengi wanakiona. Its like soon tutashuhudia Russia akijivua ukimya aliofunika mikononi mwake mda mrefu.

Ni kwa mara ya kwanza majuzi kati tumeona Russia akizipiga critical infrastructure za Ukraine kisha akatulia kimyaaa. Then akatangaza referendum kufanyika katika hayo maeneo ma 4.

Ukiunganisha dot ya referendum na wao ku-withdrawal kutoka kwenye maeneo yaliopo kwenye mikoa yao mpya hiyo kwa jicho la ziada naona ni kama "bait" anayotengenezewa Ukraine. Inakuwa like let them in upate sababu ya kumpiga.

Referendum ikiwa ina imply kua hizo regions zitakuwa in Russia Federation na uwepo wa jeshi la Ukraine eneo hilo ukiwa una maanisha uvamizi katika ardhi ya Russia. So inakuwa kama 'trump' card kwa Russia ku'declare Kiev regime kama terrorist organization hivyo kubadili course ya SMO na kua defensive operation of Russian Territory ambayo Russia according to their constitution watajipa haki ya kutumia their full potential, their full power.

Huku zile limits walizo kua wamejiwekea awali kwa jina la SMO zikitoweka.

I guess soon tutaona deployment of modern equipments maeneo hayo na fighting gonna be fierce zaidi ya mwanzo.

Ni mtazamo wangu tu hadi kufikia Jmos nitarudi kuji-prove wrong ama right kwa kile kitakacho tokea.

Siku zote mda huwa ni mwalim mzuri.

Russia yupo kwenye total war sema tu wanajeshi wake hawana morale ya vita japo Ukraine ni wachache wakipewa pesa na vifaa zaidi ataweza kumuondoa Russia kwenye ardhi yake yote na Russia atayumba sana kiuchumi na itamchukua muda mrefu kukaaa sawa

 

[Narumu yetu]

NATO na washirika wake wameweka msimamo wao wazi, kwamba iwapo itatokea fashsti anayejiita Putin.., ikitokea akarukwa na akili akarusha ata punje ya nyukria huko Ukraine..,basi vikosi vya urusi vitasagwasagwa hapo hapo Ukraine, ikiwemo Crimea.

Sasa hapo hapo fashisti Putin atachagua,ashambulie nchi mojawapo mwanachama wa NATO,Ili achakazwe mpaka Moscow au aendelee kujitutumua tu hapohapo Ukraine

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