Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

⚡⚡⚡Customs control between Russia proper and RPD/RPL will be lifted, customs posts closed tonight on midnight October 5, as both territories formally join Russian Federation. Former border posts will now serve as security checkpoints, to prevent the weapons smuggling⚡⚡⚡
 
Mag3 said:
Hawa wajinga wasio na akili wanafikiri wanajibizana na vijana wadogo wasio na uelewa wa vitu vitatu muhimu...yaliyopita, yanayoendelea na yajayo.

Huyo anayejiita JESUS Mulokozi bila shaka ni kijana mdogo sana ambaye kwa kutojua ana copy/paste tu propaganda za Urusi na kuzimwaga humu.

Kwa ufahamisho tu tupo tuliokuwepo during The Cuban Missile Crisis of October 1962.

Rais wa Marekani John Fitzerald Kennedy alipompa onyo kali kiongozi wa Urusi Nikita Khrushchev akimtaka kuondoa silaha zake kisiwani Cuba.

Zilikuwa ni siku tatu zilizojawa na hofu kubwa kwa dunia kuanzia agizo lilipotolewa tarehe 26/10/1962 hadi 28/10/1962 silaha hizo zilipoondolewa.

Wengine tulikuwepo nyakati hizo na tulikuwa na uwezo wa kufuatilia yanayojiri.

Kabla hata ya kutia kidole kwenye kitufe cha nyuklia, tayari wenzako washajua na hutapata hata huo muda wa kubonyeza na Putin anajua hilo.
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Nilikuwa mtoto mdogo Sana kipindi hicho lakini nakumbuka vizuri hiyo Cuban missile Crisis...Padri alitangaza wakati wa misa Jumapili kwamba dunia karibu inageuzwa majivu na kwamba wote tusali kuiombea amani. kwani mwisho wa dunia unakaribia...dah...hofu ilitutanda hata sisi madogo wakati huo...ndiyo mwanzo wangu wa kuifuatilia Russia/USSR na Marekani...mwaka mmoja hivi baadaye John F. Kennedy akauawa..Padri akatangaza tuiombee dunia...kwa akili zangu za kitoto nikajua wakomunisti wameshafanya yao...nikawa namfuatilia yule 'asiye na nywele' Kruschev...hahaha very interesting...nakumbuka hata alipopiga meza kwa kiatu chake kule UN...
Ndiyo mwanzo wangu wa kuifuatilia geo-politics...
 
Pro russia akili zenu sawa na huyu.
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Pietro said:
Warusi wenyewe wanashangaa inakuaje unasema unamiliki eneo ambalo bado hujalichukua majeshi yako yakefurushwa[emoji23][emoji23].

Halafu kwanini wanakataza kuongelea Lyman[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Reality sneaks up onto unsuspecting Russian state TV hosts. One pundit reveals they aren't supposed to mention Lyman (although the host denies it). He says that everyone knows things aren't going well for the Russian troops. Another pundit says Kyiv might start bombing Moscow.

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Warusi weusi watakujibu
 
Pietro said:
Warusi wenyewe wanashangaa inakuaje unasema unamiliki eneo ambalo bado hujalichukua majeshi yako yakefurushwa[emoji23][emoji23].

Halafu kwanini wanakataza kuongelea Lyman[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Reality sneaks up onto unsuspecting Russian state TV hosts. One pundit reveals they aren't supposed to mention Lyman (although the host denies it). He says that everyone knows things aren't going well for the Russian troops. Another pundit says Kyiv might start bombing Moscow.

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Ndiyo mjue huko Russia Kuna freedom of expression ya ukweli...
 
nankumene said:
Warusi weusi watakujibu
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Russia anapunguza casualties kusubiri reinforcement huku akimpa Ukraine hasara kubwa Kwa kmpotezea ASKARI wengi. Russia akishamaliza reinforcement hayo maeneo wavamizi waliyoyachukua yatarudi na nyongeza maradufu. Russia is moving slowly stable for a prolonged war.

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Msulibasi said:
Russia anapunguza casualties kusubiri reinforcement huku akimpa Ukraine hasara kubwa Kwa kmpotezea ASKARI wengi. Russia akishamaliza reinforcement hayo maeneo wavamizi waliyoyachukua yatarudi na nyongeza maradufu. Russia is moving slowly stable for a prolonged war.

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Kuna vyanzo vinasema maeneo kadhaa yataongezwa kwani Kuna majimbo yaliyofanya referendum mipaka yao imeachwa wazi bila kuainishwa..
 
Bukyanagandi said:
Mkuu, crisis ya Cuba wala kiukweli haikuwa hivyo - Kennedy alichokuwa akifanya ni mambo ya kisiasa kujaribu kukuza kura za maoni nchini mwake na kutaka kuonyesha yeye ni mwamba wa Dunia,for domestic consumption of course - lakini nyuma ya pazia mambo yalikuwa tofauti kabisa, vyombo vya habari vya magharibi hasa Merikani huwa haitaki kusema ukweli kwamba Urusi ililazimika kupeleka missiles za nuclear nchini Cuba baada ya kuionya Merikani mara kadhaa kwamba iondoe missiles zake zinazo lilenga Ťaifa la Urusi zikitokea huko Uturuki na Italy ambako Wamerikani walikuwa wamezitegeshea kuja kuishambulia Urusi hapa baadae.

Urusi ikaona hisiwe tabu na wao wakasafirisha missiles kwa meli au ndege kwenda kisiwani Cuba sikumbiki vizuri, baada ya ndege za upelelezi za Amerika kugundua kwamba missiles za Urusi zimekwisha ingizwa Cuba na kujengewa silos na launchers platform, basi, Kennedy na washauri wake wa kijeshi wakijifanya kuja juu-wakarusha ndege zao za kipelelezi kwenda Cuba kwa wakati tofauti ndege zote zikatunguliwa na marubani wake kupoteza maisha, Amerika haikuwai kutangaza kutunguliwa kwa ndege zake aina ya U-2 na wala Merikani hakufanya lolote kuhusu kutunguliwa kwa ndege zake za kipelelezi-walikaa kimya kabisa!!

Mwishowe Krustchve alimwandika telegram Kennedy kwamba Urusi haitatoa missiles zake Cuba mpaka Amerika itakapo ondoa missiles zake huko Uturuki na Italy zinazo lenga Taifa la Urusi - Kennedy ali-comply matakwa ya Kiongozi wa Urusi akaondoa missiles za Merikani huko Italy na Uturuki, mgogoro ukaisha lakini nyuma ya pazia ili kulinda masuala ya siasa ndani Merikani, Kennedy hakutala aonekane weak mbele ya wapiga kura.

NB:Niliwahi kusoma telegram Krushchev aliyo mwandikia Kennedy kwamba:-

Kwanza: Aondoe missiles nchini Italy na Turkey.

Pili: Merikani isitishe kutishia Cuba na maisha ya Fidel Catro.

Tuta: Merikani hisiwe inatishia ushirika wa Warsaw pact.

Nne: Merikani hisiwe inatishia marafiki wa Soviet Union.

Mengine sijui ni kipi kilitekelezwa lakini missiles za Merikani ziliondolewa huko Utaly na Uturuki, vile vile vitisho kwa Castro vilikoma.

Bottom line is: Missiles za Urusi ziliondolewa Cuba Russia ilipo hakilisha kwamba missiles za Kimerikani huko Italy na Turkey zimeondolewa - tofauti kabisa na habari zinazo tolewa na media za magharibi.
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Uko sahihi kabisa, Ndugu....haya ndiyo Mambo ambayo vijana wa siku hizi wanapaswa wajue....na hasa wale wa 'Putin ni fashisti',, ' Urusi inapelekewa moto'...
 
[emoji298]️Forbes Russia: 700,000 people have left Russia since mobilization began.

Forbes Russia cited sources close to Russia's Presidential Administration. Russian dictator Vladimir Putin announced the mobilization of conscripts for the war against Ukraine on Sept. 21.

In early September Russia’s state statistics agency estimated that 419,000 people had left Russia since Jan. 1 - a figure that reflects massive emigration since the beginning of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24.
 
Pietro said:
[emoji298]️Forbes Russia: 700,000 people have left Russia since mobilization began.

Forbes Russia cited sources close to Russia's Presidential Administration. Russian dictator Vladimir Putin announced the mobilization of conscripts for the war against Ukraine on Sept. 21.

In early September Russia’s state statistics agency estimated that 419,000 people had left Russia since Jan. 1 - a figure that reflects massive emigration since the beginning of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24.
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How many have left Ukraine?!?! Utuambie ni wangapi wamekimbia mobilization huko Ukraine?!?!
 
Proved said:
Hiyo ni total war au bado ni special operation ?
T14 Armata
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Wewe Ndugu unaonaje?! Bado ni SMO au total war?! Tupatie jibu hapa...
Jibu langu kwa swali lako ni kuwa hii SMO imeingia kwenye next level ..inaelekea kwenye Vita kamili..Kuna partial mobilization...Russia inataka kumobilize Askari 1,000,000 ili waende huko Frontline...achana na figure iliyotangazwa ya 300,000. Kwa hiyo hiyo ni next level....kwenye total war Russia in uwezo wa ku-mobilize Askari milioni 25.
Ukraine kwenye front ina Askari zaidi ya 800,000 including waliofanyiwa mobilization ya nguvu...Russia kwenye front kwa Sasa ina Askari chini ya 80,000..
Russia pia imetumia sehemu ndogo Sana ya Air Force yake...
Lakini Sasa Russia itaanza kutumia kwa kiasi kikubwa Air Force na pia artillery ..yaani kinaandaluwa kiama kwa Ukraine...
 
Pietro said:
[emoji298]️Forbes Russia: 700,000 people have left Russia since mobilization began.

Forbes Russia cited sources close to Russia's Presidential Administration. Russian dictator Vladimir Putin announced the mobilization of conscripts for the war against Ukraine on Sept. 21.

In early September Russia’s state statistics agency estimated that 419,000 people had left Russia since Jan. 1 - a figure that reflects massive emigration since the beginning of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24.
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Ni normal hata baba anaweza kukimbia au mwana akakimbia jambazi likiingia ndani it's normal hata wanajeshi kukimbia . Hata mume kukimbia anaacha mke abakwe

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Don Vill said:
Japan ilipigwa nuclear Leo hii watu wanaishi pale ,
Hiyo EMP hata huko hospitali matibabu Hakuna mtakuwa mnapewa vidonge Tu , hivi unajua effects za destruction ya power lines infrastructure ,mifumo ya mawasiliano ,usafiri ? ,Au unaandika Tu hapa kujifurahisha hivi umeshawahi kujiuliza swali kama Hicho kitu kikitokea mfano hapa Tz consequences zake ? ,
Imagine leo umeamka ghafla vyombo vya usafiri vyote viko disabled si magari si pikipiki si nini ,Hamna nishati ya umeme Maana miundombinu yote nchi nzima imeharibika mazima , mifumo yote ya mawasiliano kuanzia minara , televisions stations ,radio stations ,simu ,televisheni ,redio ,computers na vifaa vingine vya mawasiliano viko totally damaged ,mnaweza kuishi bila hospitali kufanya kazi ,bila mifumo ya maji Safi na maji taka kufanya kazi ?

Halafu huyo US si mjinga tangu enzi za cold war na Soviet Union hawe haja conduct reconnaissance kwenye hizo nuclear launching sites za Russia na kuprepare deterrence strategy , usione ajabu mtu kategeshewa EMP akitrigger Tu mizigo haitoki wala nini
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Sijui kama unauelewa wa kisayansi. Nadhani uko 30 yrs below. Samahani lakini
 
Msulibasi said:
Unahitaji kutuaminisha zaidi yaani hiyo silaha inaharibu miundombinu na vyombo vya usafiri nchi nzima hàdi bodaboda. TUACHE kuabudu. Silaha kali kuliko zote so far ni nuke.
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Nuke ina madhara kwenye haki ya hewa na viumbe hai mimea na wanyama. Inafanya ardhi KUPOTEZA uwezo wa kuzalisha inaharibu vyanzo vya maji . Naona hatuko serious kuizungumzia nuke Ndio maana tunaleta mbwembwe
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Huyo kijana hajielewi. Anasema eti "effect of destruction of power lines" yaani [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
Huko kijijini kwetu hakuna network za simu wala umeme na watu wanaenda kwa miguu au baiskeli, anasema unaamka njiazote za usafiri zimekata.
Yaani anachekesha. Nadhani yuko below 25 by age. Just a school boy
 
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