Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[Axel Lloyd]

Maji ya shingo

Aljazeera​

Putin says US needs to force Kyiv to negotiating table​

Putin said that Moscow was ready for talks to end the conflict in Ukraine, but said Kyiv was not prepared to sit down at the negotiating table.
“It’s not a question about us, we are ready for negotiations. But the leaders in Kyiv decided not to continue negotiations with Russia,” Putin told the Valdai Discussion Club in Moscow.
“It is very easy to solve this problem if Washington gives a signal to Kyiv to change its position and solve the problem peacefully,” he added.
There have been no peace talks between the two since attempts at a negotiated settlement fell apart in the first weeks of the conflict, and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has explicitly ruled out a negotiated deal with Putin.

Mbona ghafla [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] huyu Babu si juzi juzi tu hapa alisema hataki Negotiation na utawala wa kinazi wa Zelenksy

 

[Narumu yetu]

Ukiona hivi ujue imemwingia

Aljazeera​

Putin says US uses dollar as a ‘weapon’​

Putin has accused Washington of having discredited the international financial system by using the United States dollar as a “weapon”.
Delivering his combative anti-West speech in Moscow, the Russian president said he believed moves by other countries to reduce their reliance on the currency for international trade would accelerate.

 

[Sos21]

Mkuu unaongelea air force gan ya Russia ambayo imeshindwa kumiliki anga la ukraine , watu wengine mahaba yanawasumbua sana ,husomi habari , mapro russia wenzako hawajakuambia hilo?unachekesha sana

Then nani anacontrol air space ya ukraine? Kwa sabab last time i remember hata hao nato waligoma kuweka no flyzone in ukraine. Kama russia angekuwa weak kama unavyodhani bas nato wangefunga anga la ukraine na cha ajabu mpaka sasa nimeona air superiority ya russia maana from drones to missile zote zina roam freely kwenye anga na miji ya ukraine. Kama nato wana air force nzuri na ya kuaminika si wapeleke hizo f15,f16,f22 na f35s zao ambazo wanadai ni the best hapa duniani ili wauthibitishie ulimwengu kwamba wao ni top kwenye airforce. Au airforce yao ni the best wakikutana the so called banana republic like libya, somalia n.k

 

[Narumu yetu]

Mbona ghafla [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] huyu Babu si juzi juzi tu hapa alisema hataki Negotiation na utawala wa kinazi wa Zelenksy

Leo kaongea had bas full kulalamika sijui mapro russia walifuatilia hotuba ya putin leo?mzee amezidiwa

 

[passioner255]

We unayejua toa ufafanuz

Russia anataka mazungumzo lakini Kwa masharti Yake na kwa namna vita inavyoendelea mfano Kherson Ukraine Hali mbala na kwingineko watakuja kusarenda Tu.

 

[Teknocrat]

Thank you global warming...

Warm Weather Drives Down Gas Prices in Europe

Warm fall weather in Europe is dragging natural-gas prices down, easing some pressure on governments and businesses ahead of winter. Benchmark futures for gas in the wholesale market dropped 10% Monday to about 102 euros, or $100, a megawatt-hour. That extended [last week's sharp drop](https://www.

www.wsj.com

 

[Narumu yetu]

Then nani anacontrol air space ya ukraine? Kwa sabab last time i remember hata hao nato waligoma kuweka no flyzone in ukraine. Kama russia angekuwa weak kama unavyodhani bas nato wangefunga anga la ukraine na cha ajabu mpaka sasa nimeona air superiority ya russia maana from drones to missile zote zina roam freely kwenye anga na miji ya ukraine. Kama nato wana air force nzuri na ya kuaminika si wapeleke hizo f15,f16,f22 na f35s zao ambazo wanadai ni the best hapa duniani ili wauthibitishie ulimwengu kwamba wao ni top kwenye airforce. Au airforce yao ni the best wakikutana the so called banana republic like libya, somalia n.k

Mkuu unaongea ukiwa wap hivi unajua drone ngap na makombora yanatunguliwa tangu Russia waanzishe mashambulizi kyv na miji mingine? Hizo air diffence ukraine hapokei kama maandaz zinakuja kiutaratibu mfano jana air diffence za US ndio zimeingia mbili za Germany zimeanza fanya kazi jmatatu ndio maana husikii kombora wala drones tena ,siyo kwamba hazirushwi zinarushwa sana leo zimetunguliwa 19 na kombora 1 la s300 ,

 

[Narumu yetu]

Russia anataka mazungumzo lakini Kwa masharti Yake na kwa namna vita inavyoendelea mfano Kherson Ukraine Hali mbala na kwingineko watakuja kusarenda Tu.

Umeongea nn sasa

 

[Final Boss]

Kherson, Kherson dooh...

Chini hapa as reported by Hohols

[emoji117] Everything, Zelensky began to give back in the case of the Kherson offensive operation.

Today he said that the Russian Federation is not leaving Kherson anywhere, and all this is a lure. But if the Armed Forces of Ukraine want to, they will not have time to leave from there.

We do not think that he will be able to convince Zaluzhny now to throw all his forces into the offensive in order to demonstrate his power to his partners.

 

[Axel Lloyd]

Cont...

[emoji635][emoji779]Putin: We do not need a nuclear strike on Ukraine, there is no point - neither political nor military.

[emoji635][emoji779]Putin: "It was I who ordered Shoigu to call all his colleagues and warn [about the "dirty bomb"]"

[emoji635][emoji779]Putin: The collapse of the USSR destroyed the world balance and became the reason for the strength of the West

"The period of undivided dominance of the West in world affairs is ending".

A wise man once said;

"Believing in Putin,means disrespecting yourself".


Slava Ukraine [emoji1255][emoji1255][emoji1255][emoji1255]

 

[Elungata]

Unafuatilia ukiwa buza

Niko igaganulwa mkuu🤷🏽‍♂️

 

[Axel Lloyd]

 

[Sos21]

Hawa viongozi wa Russia wasiishie tu kushika bunduki na kupiga nazo selfie.., waende front line kabisa [emoji16][emoji16]

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Angalau hawa wanashika bunduki ila wale wenzenu wa nato wakibeba kitu kizito basi ni bendera ya upinde

 

[mixx]

Macron and Scholz agree on fighting unfair competition by the US, vows to negociate with Washington and launch a trade war if necessary.

 

[Axel Lloyd]

"Every nation should be free to take independent decision" - Vladimir Putin 27/10/2022

Ukraine did so,and we see all the lying of Russia.

 

[Shujaa Mwendazake]

Rais Vlad Putin amesema kuwa nchi za ki Magharibi wanaweza kuishi wanavyotaka na mila zao za LGBT lakin hawapaswi kulazimisha , kushawishi ama kushinikiza wengine kuwafuata.

Amesema nchi zingine zinaona mambo hayo kama fedheha ama kinyaa katika tamaduni zao.

Zaidi soma para ya mwisho:

All cultures in the world should be respected, including those that other nations may find weird, like the gender-obsessed culture seen in the West, Russian President Vladimir Putin has said.

“Respecting the peculiarities of peoples and civilizations is in everyone’s interest. Actually, it is in the interest of the West too. As it loses superiority, it is quickly becoming a minority” culture-wise, the Russian president assessed during a speech on Thursday.

That said, Western culture should be respected just like any other, Putin said.

If Western elites believe that they can incorporate into the minds of their people, their societies things that I personally find somewhat weird, and which are apparently in fashion, like dozens of genders, and gay pride parades, so be it. Let them do whatever they want.

But the West has no right to impose their cultural preferences on other nations and societies, he said, adding that Russia does not lecture others on how they should live, and does not want to be lectured either.

Putin declared that his country has chosen to maintain “traditional values,”and went on to explain what he means by the term – not a universal set of rules, but many creeds that different societies created for themselves.

“Their difference from the so-called neoliberal values is that in every case they are unique, because they stem from the traditions of a particular society, its culture, and historic experience,” the president stated.

That is why you cannot force them on somebody. You should simply respect them, cherish what each nation picked for itself over centuries.

The approach, Putin believes, is shared by most of humanity, unlike what the Western nations promote.

The remarks were part of a keynote speech that Putin delivered at the Valdai Discussion Club, an international event hosted by Russia, where senior Russian officials voice ideas about global issues for other nations to discuss.
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In his address, Putin warned that the US and its allies are hurting themselves by trying to force other nations to be more like themselves. Political and cultural diversity is key in solving problems that humanity faces as a whole, he argued.

 

[ankai]

Huyu ni mwehu kama hataki west walazimishe huo ugasho yeye mbona analazimisha wengine kuwa wajamaa

 

[Afrocentric view]

Kwanini hakusema yote haya mwaka jana au juzi?
Kwann sheria za kupinga ushoga ndio zinapitishwa saivi urusi?
Tumia akili wewe Muafrika.
Putin anajua akifanya hivyo atapata support kubwa ya middle east na China.

Na lengo lake hapa hasa sio kupinga ushoga, lengo lake ni kupata support kama ikitokea vita ya WW3

 

[Shujaa Mwendazake]

The Russian president sees his country’s struggle as against a “neo-colonial” elite that has supplanted the “traditional” West

Vladimir Putin gestures as he speaks at the plenary session of the 19th annual meeting of the Valdai International Discussion Club outside Moscow, Russia, October 27, 2022 © Sputnik / Sergei Guneyev.

Russian President Vladimir Putin declared on Thursday that Russia is an “independent” civilization that does not consider itself an enemy of the West. Instead, he sees the “aggressive” and“neo-colonial” liberal elite in charge of the West as a foe.

“In the current conditions of a tough conflict, I will say some things directly,”Putin told a meeting of the Valdai Discussion Club. “Russia, being an independent, original civilization, has never considered and does not consider itself an enemy of the West.”

Hatred for American, British, French or German people “are the same form of racism as Russophobia and anti-Semitism,” he added.

Putin went on to describe the West as two entities. On one hand, the traditional, primarily Christian West “is close to us in some ways,” he said, noting that “we have in many respects common and ancient roots.”

“But there is another West – aggressive, cosmopolitan, neo-colonial, acting as an instrument of neo-liberal ideas. It is precisely with the dictates of this West that Russia, of course, will never put up with,” he continued.

While Putin undoubtedly sees the conflict in Ukraine as an existential struggle against the West – describing his forces as fighting the “entire Western military machine” and blaming the derailment of peace talks and sabotage of the Nord Stream gas pipelines on the “Anglo-Saxons,” he has drawn a distinction between Western elites and Western society before.

Speaking at a ceremony following the accession of four formerly Ukrainian regions into the Russian Federation last month, Putin declared that “the Western elites target all societies, including the citizens of Western countries themselves.”

While the West expands primarily to secure its “mercantile interest,” he stated at Thursday’s meeting, it also pushes its cultural exports on an unreceptive world. “If Western elites believe they can launch new trends like dozens of genders and gay parades, they have the right to do so,” he said. “But they don’t have the right to demand that others follow the same direction.”

Putin also condemned the “pure Satanism” of Western liberal culture in his speech last month, noting that “many like-minded people in Europe and the United States” feel the same way.

The Valdai Discussion Club is an annual international event in Russia conceived as a platform for floating ideas that the host nation considers important to discuss with other global players. The forum was created in 2004.

 

[Shujaa Mwendazake]

Uyu ni mwehu kama hataki west walazimishe huo ugasho yeye mbona analazimisha wengine kuwa wajamaa

Kamlazimisha nani, ?