Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

ITR said:

Nimesikia mshauli wa rais wa Ukraine akisema kuwa bado Urusi hajaondoka kherson na Ukraine haiwezi kuingia kwenye mtego wa kijinga ulitegwa na Urusi.

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Mkuu hapo Kherson hicho kipande tiyari Ukraine ishasema inaenda kukishambulia kabla ya leo. Tena wataalamu wanasema walikuwa waanzishe bridgehead kwenye hiyo kona hapo mbele ya Kakhovka maana mto ni mpaka sana Russia ndio pagumu sana kuwa supplied na Russia. Kisha wangepiga hapo juu kulia ya Snihurivka kukata kipande kukizingira

Ukraine haitaki kupoteza wanajeshi wengi. Haipendi kupiga kwa sifa inawapa pressure sehemu fulani wanaretreat. Ndio maana sometimes inatangaza inaenda shambulia wapi ili Warusi waondoke. Haishtukizi kushambulia ila hawa pro Russia unawakuta humu wanashangilia "hiyo Kherson mliyosema mnakomboa tangu mwezi jana mbona tunayo". Kumbe Ukraine imewaachia fupa gumu. Imepiga supply lines sasa majenerali muamue majeshi yenu yavamiwe yakiwa hayana supplies za kutosha na hayana uwezo wa kuretreat bila mashambulizi, muambulie kuua Ukrainians kadhaa ila mwishowe mpigwe eneo hilo. Au muondoke bila kuwaua Ukrainians wachache ila muokoe wanajeshi wenu na silaha zenu kisha mkazipange sehemu mliyo na advantage kulinda.

Tabia ya kufa kishujaa ni doctrine ya USSR/Russia. Majeshi kama British au Israel wenye population ndogo na wanaotumia gharama sana kufundisha wanasisitiza kuepuka kupoteza wanajeshi kizembe. Ukimcheki Marshal Zukhov au Marshal Rokossovsky wa USSR na Field Marshall Montgomery wa Britain kwenye WW2 utaelewa kwanini Russia ilipoteza wanajeshi wengi mno kuliko wenzake

eliakeem said:

Hakuna atakayekaa kando katika dhoruba ijayo.

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Nukuu ya Vladmir hii

Pietro said:

Hamna walituma picha linapitisha magari wakasema kitu tayari kinafanya kazi[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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Wakati assessment iliyofanywa baadae ilionyesha inabidi waondoe vyuma zaidi. Mwanzoni assessment ilionyesha watawahi ila nadhani wameamua kuliko kurekebisha ukarudi tena miaka michache bora waende direct

ITR said:

Hata mshauri wa rais wa Ukraine amesema hivyo kuwa Ukraine haiwezi kuingia kwenye mtego wa Urusi kipuuzi.

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Lete chanzo Cha hiyo habari..,kilichoripoti kwamba msaidizi wa rais zelensiky kasema hivyo..,sio tu kujitungia habari na kuandika humu[emoji848]

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Russia washa kimbia huko

kp kipanya44 said:

Leo wamelambishwa mchanga vijana wa mobilization zaidi ya 500 kwa mpigo..,wewe endelea kujiliwaza [emoji16][emoji16]

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Vita ni Result-Oriented .

Matokeo halisi yanayoonekana ukiacha Propaganda ni yepi?

Mzani umeelemea wapi??

Vita inapiganiwa sebuleni Ukraine. Moscow maisha yanaendelea.

Nani ameelemewa???

HIMARS said:

Inasemekana kuna wanajeshi zaidi ya 20,000 hapo kherson, hivyo artillery za ukraine zinafanya kazi sana hapo kwenye huo mto. kuna uwezekano mkubwa wengi wasivuke.

Nimeona Mauripol wameanza weka defence kwa kuchimba na kuweka pyramids

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Sasa hivi ni zamu nyingine tena ya artillery kuonyesha umuhimu wake vitani. Muda wa vifaru ushaisha na usitarajie tank battle yoyote maana hatukuipata hata moja Ukraine ilikuwa inatumia anti tank missiles, artillery na mines

T14 Armata said:

Mkuu hapo Kherson hicho kipande tiyari Ukraine ishasema inaenda kukishambulia kabla ya leo. Tena wataalamu wanasema walikuwa waanzishe bridgehead kwenye hiyo kona hapo mbele ya Kakhovka maana mto ni mpaka sana Russia ndio pagumu sana kuwa supplied na Russia. Kisha wangepiga hapo juu kulia ya Snihurivka kukata kipande kukizingiraView attachment 2411626

Ukraine haitaki kupoteza wanajeshi wengi. Haipendi kupiga kwa sifa inawapa pressure sehemu fulani wanaretreat. Ndio maana sometimes inatangaza inaenda shambulia wapi ili Warusi waondoke. Haishtukizi kushambulia ila hawa pro Russia unawakuta humu wanashangilia "hiyo Kherson mliyosema mnakomboa tangu mwezi jana mbona tunayo". Kumbe Ukraine imewaachia fupa gumu. Imepiga supply lines sasa majenerali muamue majeshi yenu yavamiwe yakiwa hayana supplies za kutosha na hayana uwezo wa kuretreat bila mashambulizi, muambulie kuua Ukrainians kadhaa ila mwishowe mpigwe eneo hilo. Au muondoke bila kuwaua Ukrainians wachache ila muokoe wanajeshi wenu na silaha zenu kisha mkazipange sehemu mliyo na advantage kulinda.

Tabia ya kufa kishujaa ni doctrine ya USSR/Russia. Majeshi kama British au Israel wenye population ndogo na wanaotumia gharama sana kufundisha wanasisitiza kuepuka kupoteza wanajeshi kizembe. Ukimcheki Marshal Zukhov au Marshal Rokossovsky wa Russia na Field Marshall Montgomery wa Britain kwenye WW2 utaelewa kwanini Russia ilipoteza wanajeshi wengi mno kuliko wenzake

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Ngoja tusubiri tuone ni kipi kitaendelea.

T14 Armata said:

Sasa hivi ni zamu nyingine tena ya artillery kuonyesha umuhimu wake vitani. Muda wa vifaru ushaisha na usitarajie tank battle yoyote maana hatukuipata hata moja Ukraine ilikuwa inatumia anti tank missiles, artillery na mines

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Inaonesha intelligence ya Nato na Us inawasaidia sana Ukraine.

Kuna uwezekano hadi january Ukraine akawa keshavuka dniper river

The 13 said:

Russia washa kimbia huko View attachment 2411628

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Msisitizo uzingatiwe hapo "the only regional centre they had captured since invasion began".

Sasa hivi watakuja na kisingizio gani baadae hasa yule msemaji wao

HIMARS said:

Inaonesha intelligence ya Nato na Us inawasaidia sana Ukraine.

Kuna uwezekano hadi january Ukraine akawa keshavuka dniper river

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Lawama ziende hasa kwa huyu bwana RQ-4 Global Hawk kutoka kwa Northrop Grumman. Kila muda hizi drones zinazunguka Black sea kuchungulia eneo la vita na ndani kidogo ya Russia. Bahati nzuri zinakuwa kwenye anga la kimataifa hivyo kuzishambulia unanunua kesi kwa Marekani

T14 Armata said:

Lawama ziende hasa kwa huyu bwana RQ-4 Global Hawk kutoka kwa Northrop Grumman. Kila muda hizi drones zinazunguka Black sea kuchungulia eneo la vita na ndani kidogo ya Russia. Bahati nzuri zinakuwa kwenye anga la kimataifa hivyo kuzishambulia unanunua kesi kwa MarekaniView attachment 2411661

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Ila juzi kati kabla drone hazijashambulia sevastopol, paliwa na RC Joint rivert ya UK maeneo ya Blacksea.

Something fishy going on [emoji1787]

[emoji635] The owner of PMC "Wagner" Prigozhin, who previously criticized the command of the Russian army for retreating from Liman, today supported the decision to leave Kherson.

“The decision to withdraw troops from the right bank of the Dnieper is not an easy one, but it speaks of the readiness of the command to take responsibility for the lives of soldiers. The withdrawal of troops with minimal losses is Surovikin’s achievement, which does not do honor to Russian weapons, but emphasizes the personal qualities of the commander, who acted like a man who is not afraid of responsibility, ”said Prigozhin.

Ajabu na Mzee wa kukinukisha Kadyrov nae kasifia uamuzi huo... Nini kinaendelea [emoji41]

[emoji635] Kadyrov - about leaving Kherson:

Surovikin saved a thousand soldiers who were actually surrounded. After weighing all the pros and cons, General Surovikin made a difficult but right choice between senseless sacrifices for the sake of loud statements and saving the priceless lives of soldiers.

Kherson is a very difficult area without the possibility of a stable regular supply of ammunition and the formation of a strong, reliable rear. Why was this not done from the first days of the special operation? This is another question. But in this difficult situation, the general acted wisely and far-sightedly - he evacuated the civilian population and ordered a regrouping.

The fact that Kherson is a difficult combat territory was known to everyone from the very first days of the special operation. The soldiers of my units also reported that it was very difficult to fight in this area. Yes, it can be kept, it is possible to organize at least some supply of ammunition, but the cost will be numerous human lives. And this forecast does not suit us.

Therefore, I think that Surovikin acted like a real military general, not afraid of criticism.

Posted by Ukrainian [emoji1]

#Layout
Everyone knew about the Kherson offensive, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have the result, of course, there are losses, some have more, some have less.

Everyone is interested in another question.
Is this a trap for the Armed Forces of Ukraine or is it a drain of territories?

If the territory on the right bank is drained, then this will hit the image of the RF Armed Forces hard. Of course, no one after that will want to work with them and believe them that they are here “forever”.

Someone deliberately monotonously discredits the image of Russians? Of course, this works in favor of the SBU.

This too, was posted by Ukrainian!

#behind-the-scenes_rumors
On the sidelines, everyone understands that if the Russians merge Kherson, then everyone has a question, what next?

Well, Ukraine will get Kherson, and if Western funding is not increased for Ukraine, then the Office of the President will not be able to self-sustain its own existence.

Zelensky's only trump card is to try to rock Russia from within to the Maidan. If it doesn't work out, will you have to invent another Butch?

Everything is very difficult for Bankova. The Kherson case is not as simple as it might seem at first glance.

SHORT AND CLEAR. SLAVA UKRAINE [emoji1255][emoji1255][emoji1255]

[emoji635][emoji1255][emoji779][emoji779]️Advisor to the President of Ukraine Mikhail Podolyak said that part of the Russian troops remain in Kherson, and additional Russian forces is being drawn to the region “Ukraine does not pay attention to Russian statements, words and actions are different, our armed forces are working according to their plan - reconnaissance, risk assessment, effective counterattack. As long as the Ukrainian flag does not fly over the city of Kherson, there is no point in talking about the retreat of Russia” [emoji2398]

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Intuition said:

Mimi ni pro-russia lkn kwa jinsi ninavyoona Russia hajui anataka nini huko Ukraine.Haijalishi Russia alikua anauhalali au hana uhalali wa kuivamia Ukraine.Russia ilipaswa kusimamia mtazamo wake na kama ni vita then ingepigana serious war, sio unapigana siku mbili- unakaa wiki hueleweki unataka nini.Mwenzako anakuotea..then unapiga tena kwa pupa then unatulia.Umeingiza watu mpaka Kiev pale, vijana wamekufa..then ghafla tu unasema unakaribisha matashi mema..unarudisha wanajeshi nyuma kabisa.

Kremlin pale naona ni kama CCM tu..watu wamekula wameshiba, hawajui na hawajali nini wafanye.Hii kutokua na msimamo wa kisiasa pia nafkiri kunawaathiri hata makamanda...hawajui kesho yanatoka matamko yapi...

Huwezi ukawa vuguvugu ukashinda..ni either baridi au moto...matokeo sio juu yako..

Pili Russia hawaishi maneno yao...na ndo kinawapa Ukraine kiburi..na nchi hata ambazo mwanzoni ziliogopa kutoa msaada Kiev sasa zinatoa kwa nguvu zote, sababu wameona anaeogopwa hajui kama anaogopwa.

Russia haishindi hii vita..huko mpakani kutakuwa na chokochoko kwa miaka kibao mbeleni...PUTIN anasitasita sana na maneno mengi.

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Same here

Mmeshaanza kupiga ramli kwamba ni mtego. Russia kashatega mitego mingap ya namna hii tangu kaanza ki retreat kule snake island na Kharkiv?

wapi papaa wa harmagedon

Mrengwa wa kulia said:

wapi papaa wa harmagedon

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[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]na alikuja kwa mbwembwe,alidhani anapigana na wavaa kobazi wa Syria