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Biden suggests Russia not behind Poland ‘missile strike’​

“Preliminary information” indicates the blast was not the result of a Russian attack, the US leader said
Biden suggests Russia not behind Poland ‘missile strike’

President Joe Biden makes a statement after a meeting of NATO leaders in Bali, Indonesia, November 16, 2022.

US President Joe Biden has said it is “unlikely” that a missile that hit Polish territory near the Ukrainian border, killing two people, was fired by Russia. He noted that the trajectory of the munition was inconsistent with an attack launched by Russian forces.
Speaking to reporters at the G20 summit in Bali, Indonesia on Wednesday morning following early consultations with NATO members, Biden was asked whether it was “too early to say whether this missile was fired from Russia.”
“There is preliminary information that contests that,” Biden answered, adding “I don’t want to say that until we completely investigate, but it is unlikely, in the minds of the trajectory, that it was fired from Russia. But we’ll see. We’ll see.”
The White House previously said Biden had convened an “emergency” roundtable among senior officials from NATO states, as well as Japan, to discuss the mysterious explosion in Przewodow, Poland on Tuesday. In a joint statement after the sit-down, the leaders said they agreed to “support Poland’s investigation” into the incident and would “remain in close touch to determine appropriate next steps.”
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It is unclear what action might be taken in response, as officials say that will be determined by the findings of their probe. However Warsaw previously suggested it could invoke NATO’s Article 4 provision, which requires the bloc’s 30 states to hold consultations if any member believes they are under military threat or wishes to discuss any other “issue of concern.” The measure is distinct from Article 5, a collective security guarantee that compels all NATO states to come to the defense of another member.
According to Reuters, Polish President Andrzej Duda said it is “highly probable” Poland would soon invoke Article 4, though added investigators currently lack concrete evidence pointing to any responsible party behind the blast.
While Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky wasted little time before pinning the explosion on Moscow, the Russian Defense Ministry issued a statement denying any responsibility, insisting that photos circulating in Polish media purporting to show missile fragments “have nothing to do with Russian weapons.” The ministry added that such allegations are “a deliberate provocation in order to escalate the situation.”
Hours after the blast on Tuesday, the US military said it could not corroborate claims of Russian involvement, apparently rebutting an earlier Associated Press report citing an unnamed US intelligence official who said a Russian missile had struck the Polish village
 
Mathanzua said:

Biden suggests Russia not behind Poland ‘missile strike’​

“Preliminary information” indicates the blast was not the result of a Russian attack, the US leader said
Biden suggests Russia not behind Poland ‘missile strike’

President Joe Biden makes a statement after a meeting of NATO leaders in Bali, Indonesia, November 16, 2022.

US President Joe Biden has said it is “unlikely” that a missile that hit Polish territory near the Ukrainian border, killing two people, was fired by Russia. He noted that the trajectory of the munition was inconsistent with an attack launched by Russian forces.
Speaking to reporters at the G20 summit in Bali, Indonesia on Wednesday morning following early consultations with NATO members, Biden was asked whether it was “too early to say whether this missile was fired from Russia.”
“There is preliminary information that contests that,” Biden answered, adding “I don’t want to say that until we completely investigate, but it is unlikely, in the minds of the trajectory, that it was fired from Russia. But we’ll see. We’ll see.”
The White House previously said Biden had convened an “emergency” roundtable among senior officials from NATO states, as well as Japan, to discuss the mysterious explosion in Przewodow, Poland on Tuesday. In a joint statement after the sit-down, the leaders said they agreed to “support Poland’s investigation” into the incident and would “remain in close touch to determine appropriate next steps.”
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It is unclear what action might be taken in response, as officials say that will be determined by the findings of their probe. However Warsaw previously suggested it could invoke NATO’s Article 4 provision, which requires the bloc’s 30 states to hold consultations if any member believes they are under military threat or wishes to discuss any other “issue of concern.” The measure is distinct from Article 5, a collective security guarantee that compels all NATO states to come to the defense of another member.
According to Reuters, Polish President Andrzej Duda said it is “highly probable” Poland would soon invoke Article 4, though added investigators currently lack concrete evidence pointing to any responsible party behind the blast.
While Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky wasted little time before pinning the explosion on Moscow, the Russian Defense Ministry issued a statement denying any responsibility, insisting that photos circulating in Polish media purporting to show missile fragments “have nothing to do with Russian weapons.” The ministry added that such allegations are “a deliberate provocation in order to escalate the situation.”
Hours after the blast on Tuesday, the US military said it could not corroborate claims of Russian involvement, apparently rebutting an earlier Associated Press report citing an unnamed US intelligence official who said a Russian missile had struck the Polish village
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Sasa kwanini wanaita kikao cha NATO?hawa jamaa kweli hawana kitu.
 
ITR said:
Usipaniki dada hilo la kukanusha limekaa kidpromasia zaidi maana dunia nzima ikiwemo washirika wake hawataki vita vienee maana ni hatari kwa usalama wa dunia, sasa akikili unataka washirika wake wamueleweje?

Hilo shambulizi wenda nimefanyika kimakosa au kwa makusudi kutuma ujumbe kwa Poland maana imekuwa ni nchi yenye kiherehere kuizidi hata Marekani.

Hakuna nchi isiyo jua ugumu wa vita na ndio maana hata akibainika Urusi amehusika NATO watatafuta kila namna kupindisha ili kuitoa Urusi kwenye hatia kuepusha vita na Urusi.
Hata Baiden ameshasema kuwa Urusi wenda hausiki hapo tiyari anawaandaa watu kisaikolojia ili kuitoa Urusi kwenye hatia ili kuepusha vita na Urusi.

Mtu mwenye uwelewa na vita na historia ya vita mbali mbali vya huko nyuma hawezi kuikejeri Urusi kisa tu kupata upinzani mkali nchini Ukraine.

Na isitoshe Ukraine anapokea misaada ya silaha za mabilion ya dora lakini ukifuatilia historia ya vita vya huko nyuma kuna nchi ndogo zimeshinda vita dhidi ya mataifa makubwa tena bila hata hiyo misaada kama anayopewa Ukraine.

Na ukiangalia kwenye historia ya vita ya nyuma utagundua kuwa hakuna taifa ambalo limeshindwa vita nyingi dhidi ya mataifa madogo na dhaifu kama Marekani.

Wengi Wanao idharau Urusi ni watu wenye uwelewa mdogo kuhusu medani ya vita na wenda wameanza kufuatilia siasa za kimataifa baada ya Urusi kuivamia Ukraine kiufupi ni vilaza.
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Hiyo paragraph ya mwisho ndiyo umeonyesha kiwango cha juu kabisa cha kupanic mpaka hata kuandika tu maneno ya kawaida kabisa unakosea mwanzo mwisho.
 
Bome-e said:
Ila Marekani huyo huyo anatoa silaha ambazo haziwezi kutua Moscow na anatoa maelezo kabisa kwamba anafanya hivyo kuepusha escalation of the war😃😃😃!
Sasa kati ya wewe na Biden,tukwamini nani?
NATO wa buza mnachekesha sana!
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Marekani kaiweza USSR aje ashindwe Russia? Taifa lililoanzishwa 1991 kama masalia ndio unataka lishindane na Marekani?

Yani Marekani itishwe na nchi iliyowahi tawaliwa na marais watatu tu tangu ianzishwe? Come on futa hiyo njaa kichwani
 
Tsh said:
Urusi hawezi tuma kombora kizembe hivyo kwenye nchi mwanachama wa NATO na kuua watu wawili kisa kutuma ujumbe. Angeamua angetuma ujumbe unaoeleweka sababu anajua ni nn maana ya vita vya moja kwa moja na NATO.

Haya mengine ni propaganda za mahaba uchwara tu huku Tanganyika.
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Warusi wa Mama Samia nyuzi joto la munkari wa vita limeshapanda kufikia 100 Centigrade,wao wanataka NATO ajibu mapigo [emoji23][emoji23]
 
T14 Armata said:
Marekani kaiweza USSR aje ashindwe Russia? Taifa lililoanzishwa 1991 kama masalia ndio unataka lishindane na Marekani?

Yani Marekani itishwe na nchi iliyowahi tawaliwa na marais watatu tu tangu ianzishwe? Come on futa hiyo njaa kichwani
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Sisi tusapiga Nato, tunasubiri majibu yenu.mchague vita au mfanye kama akijatokea kitu[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]



KENGE WA BLUE NYIE, [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]
 
1954 said:
Dada pamoja na Mimi binafsi mara nyingi kuheshimu comments zako lakini ni vema basi na wewe uwe makini kwa baadhi ya comments...Russia haijajihami kuhusu issue hiii.
.NATO wanajua ni Nani amerusha kombora Hilo ili kuitumbukiza NATO kwenye nuclear war...Biden asubuhi amesema wazi it is unlikely kombora limerushwa kutoka Russia...Trump amezungumzia namna USA inavyotaka kutumbukizwa kwenye nuclear war na uwezekano wa nchi nyingi kufutwa kwa kombira moja tu...Poland imesema haijui ni Nani amerusha...jamani tuache ushabiki ...tusishabikie mradi kushabikia..
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Pamoja na mimi kuheshimu sana pia comments zako na wewe pia ulipaswa kutazama hiyo comment nimeandika muda gani. Unaleta maelezo ambayo yametoka baadae sana,wakati najibu hiyo comment kulikuwa haya maelezo bado hayajatoka.Otherwise huwa una kupanic kwa aina flani hivi unaposomaga kile ambacho hupendi kukisikia japokuwa huwa unajitahidi sana kuficha kwa kutumia lugha ya staha.
 
ITR said:
Hayo mengine tuyaache tiyari mwanachama mmoja amesha pigwa tunahitaji kuona madege ya kimarekani unayo shinda humu unaya sifia yakipaa kwenye anga ya Urusi yakidondosha mabomu.
Ili tujue kweli kama Urusi ni super power wa mchongo au la.
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Hujui NATO inavyoendeshwa wala articles zake zilivyo. Haiendeshwi kama kilabu cha gongo kama kule ambapo yule mtu akikaa kwenye meza kubwa kama uwanja anaamua sasa tutimue mbio tulikopigisha kura na kudai ni sehemu yetu.

Stray missile haiwezi anzisha vita. Sio kombora la kwanza kudondoka Poland na linaweza lisiwe la mwisho. Hata ingekuwa limerushwa makusudi na matangazo juu bado isingeanzisha vita.

Turkey iliipiga ndege ya Urusi na rekodi ikatoa na rubani akafa ila wakaishia kufanya vikao. Juzi hapa Turkey ilizuia meli za kivita za Urusi kupita kwa zaidi ya miezi miwili. Wameufyata
 
FUSO said:
walipotea kabisa baada ya majeshi yako kufungasha pale Kherson, leo ni balaa ingawa hawajui kinachoendelea kwenye uwanja wa vita.

Ni sawa na wewe unagombana na mtu live afu yeye anatumia manati kulenga wana familia wako home na kuvunja madirisha, milango na kung'oa mita za umeme na maji. 😀 😀
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mohamedidrisa789 said:
Sisi tusapiga Nato, tunasubiri majibu yenu.mchague vita au mfanye kama akijatokea kitu[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]



KENGE WA BLUE NYIE, [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]
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Sisi tumeshatwaa ardhi yenu tunasubir majibu [emoji2957][emoji2957]
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