Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Russia wakifanikiwa kuchukua hayo machimbo itakua ni pigo kwa Ukraine maana lazima wayatumie kuhifadhi silaha kama wanavyofanya kwenye kinu cha nyuklia cha Zaporizhzhia,na shida ni kwamba Ukraine hawana Bunker buster bombs ingekua Marekani hapo hata mkichukua machimbo anakuja na Massive Ordinance Penetrator ikiwa kwenye B-2 bomber mnazikwa humohumo chini.
 
Inaweza kuwa ndio sababu hayo majamaa ya Wagners yanafia hapo pamoja na kichapo yanachopewa lakini yanarudi hayakomi kwenye huo mji?
 
Inaweza kuwa ndio sababu hayo majamaa ya Wagners yanafia hapo pamoja na kichapo yanachopewa lakini yanarudi hayakomi kwenye huo mji?
Na ndio maana Ukraine nae hataki kuachia hayo machimbo yaende kwa Russia,last week Wagner walifika mpaka hapo Ukraine ikaleta reinforcement wakakimbizwa. Hali inayoendelea itabidi Ukraine ipeleke reinforcement za kutosha la sivyo itakula kwao
 
Soledar nafkiri ndio key ya bakhmut. Km wakiichukua soledar basi bakhmut itaanguka mapema sana

Sema hii battle ya bakhmut sio poa. Zinalia kwelikweli
Asee hiyo battle hapo ni kali haswa. Wagner sijui kwanini wamekomaa sana na hiyo sehemu. Ukraine akishinda hiyo battle hapo kwingine itakuwa ni kufagia tu.

Ngoja kifurushi kipya kifike tuone matokeo yake yatakuwaje.
 
Pro Russia bhana.

Kama watu walijua Russia ataivamia lini Ukraine watashindwa kuestimate waliokufa?
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KUJUA KUIVAMIA walijua na ndo maana waliwapa mafunzo Ukraine tangu 2014.
Ila hawakujua ni lini na mda gani wataingia Ukraine, hilo hawakujua 100%.
Au UNATAKA kupisha na hapo.
 
Hata Mimi nilipoona Russia anasogeza wanajeshi mpakani na Ukraine nilijua tu kinachofuata!
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Huyo Russia alikuwa anaogopa nini kuweka mambo hadharani kwamba anakwenda kuvamia Ukraine??..,jibu ni simple tu; alitaka awashtukize Ukraine Ili aweze kumaliza vita kirahisi kwa muda mfupi..,ni bahati mbaya sana aligonga mwamba katika hilo

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Duh, kumbe pale bakhmut na soleder kuna network ya underground tunnels, mita 100 chini ya ardhi, hadi vifaru vinatembea huko, no wonder kazi ya kuuchukua hizo miji imekuwa ngumu kama ilivyokua malioupol, [emoji848].
Sijui Putin anajisikiaje kuona anatumia nguvu nyingi kwenye "tumiji tudogo tu twa mpakani", wakati lengo lilikuwa ni kufanya legime change,na kisha kurudi Moscow na kuanza ku-control serikali ya mjini Kyiv kwa remote control..., kweli vita si lelemama

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Lengo kuu ni kukomboa Donbass, luhansk,,
Regime change watafanya wenyewe wa ukraine maisha yakiwatight.
 
Silaha kama hizo wangepewa Ukraine, wangepindua meza mapema sana
 
Pro Russia bhana.

Kama watu walijua Russia ataivamia lini Ukraine watashindwa kuestimate waliokufa?
Kuna mwanajeshi mmoja wa MAREKANI mstaafu

Douglas Abbott Macgregor is a retired U.S Army colonel and government official, He played a significant role on the battlefield in the 1990-91 Gulf War and the 1999 NATO bombing of Yugoslavia. His 1997 book Breaking the Phalanx established him as an influential if unconventional theorist of military strategy. He contributed to the US strategy in its 2003 invasion of Iraq.

Huyo colonel wa USA kasema Ukraine wamepoteza askari wanaweza wakawa zaidi ya 150,000.
 
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