Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Axel Lloyd · Jan 17, 2023

IFAC said:
Kipindi kile Russia walikuwa wanazidiwa manpower na Ukraine.

Askari wa kirusi waliokuwa deployed ni 250K ila Ukraine 1E6 sawasawa na ratio ya 1 Russian soldier kwa 4 manazi.

Sasa upepo umebadilika askari wa kirusi wameongezeka hivyo kubalance mzani.

Kumbuka kipindi kile walitaka kuingia Artemovisky kupitia Southern direction pekee ila Sasa wataivamia kupitia direction tatu ambayo ni South, West na East.

Kipindi kile barabara ya Siversk-Bakhmut ilikuwa chini ya Wanazi ila Sasa ipo chini ya Warusi.

Kipindi kile Soledar ilikuwa under control ya Ukraine ila Sasa Urusi kaibeba.

Kifupi wasipofanya withdrawal basi Ukraine ijiandae kupoteza askari wengi na mji Bado utatekwa.

Kumbuka ikianguka Artemovisky basi ujue Kramatorsk na Slovyiansk zipo hatarini maana umbali wake kutoka Artemovisky ni kilometer 40 au hazizidi 50.

Hii miji ilikuwa imejengewa ngome imara kwa muda wote wa miaka 8 au tuseme 9 ili kuzuia Donetsk Republic forces wasiweze kujitanua kuelekea Magharibi hivyo kuanguka kwake ni disaster kwa Ukraine army and Administration.

Kipindi kile Urusi ilikua imejikamilisha Kwa mavifaa yote,si ndege si Makombora si AD si mavifaru si ma APC lakini ikashindwa kuichukua,wakati huo Ukraine ikiwa dhaifu walichokua wanafanya ni kuretreat tu.

Kua na wanajeshi wengi ambao hawana vifaa muhimu hakukuhakikishii ushndi ingekua hivyo waarabu wangekua washaifuta Israel Kwa uso wa Dunia pale Middle east.

Kumbuka Kwasasa warusi wanachezea kichapo pale Kreminna,ikitokea Kreminna imeanguka bhas jua kuisupply Bakhmut ni shughuli maana Kreminna ni kama Supply Hub ya Urusi Kwasasa. Kreminna ikianguka Severodonetsk ijiandae. Hapo Kreminna warusi wameshaanza kupelekea reinforcement maana kuna taarifa majeshi ya Ukraine yameshaanza kuingia kwenye huo mji.

kp kipanya44 · Jan 17, 2023

mohamedidrisa789 said:
Kwa iyo ulikuwa unaongea vitu pasipo kujua.kenge mkubwa wewe[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

Wewe ndiye kenge unayeta kutuongopea kwamba bakhumut imezungukwa, kumbe unatupiga fix tu [emoji2]

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Axel Lloyd · Jan 17, 2023

IFAC said:
Mpaka mwezi wa tatu kutakuwa na Artemovisky Moja tu iliyo chini ya Urusi.

Tutakuwa tunaizungumzia battle of Kramatorsk au Slovyiansk

Mwezi wa tatu sio mbali nakutunzia hii comment.

Mwezi wa tatu tutakua tunazungumzia battle of Severodonetsk na Lysychansk.

kp kipanya44 · Jan 17, 2023

IFAC said:
Mpaka mwezi wa tatu kutakuwa na Artemovisky Moja tu iliyo chini ya Urusi.

Tutakuwa tunaizungumzia battle of Kramatorsk au Slovyiansk

Kuna wenzio walisema urusi atamaliza hii vita ndani ya siku tatu,tukawatunzia coment zao zikawaumbua hapa, hivyo jaribu kuwepo akiba ya maneno,

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Axel Lloyd · Jan 17, 2023

mohamedidrisa789 said:
Mwanamchi gani hao.ebu leta ushahidi wa maandamano ya kuonyesha hao wananchi.kama usipileta kuanzia leo nitakuwa nakuita shoga mgeni

Wewe njoo na majina yako yote maana hapa umefika Shekhe,hiyo battle tutapambana kisawasawa. Me Nitakuita tobo la pink.

The strike also led to a rare public display of grief in some cities, including in Russia's Samara region on the Volga River.

In a sign that criticism was being taken seriously, the influential head of Russia's state RT television channel Margarita Simonyan welcomed the army's promise that officials would "be held accountable."

"It is time to understand that impunity does not lead to social harmony. Impunity leads to new crimes. And, as a result, to public dissent.
Russia's Military Leadership Feels Pressure From Makiivka Fallout - The Moscow Times

Bray baba · Jan 17, 2023

kp kipanya44 said:
Kuna wenzio walisema urusi atamaliza hii vita ndani ya siku tatu,tukawatunzia coment zao zikawaumbua hapa, hivyo jaribu kuwepo akiba ya maneno,

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Wewe Dogo Ni matako Sana na akili zako zipo kwenye makalio ya nguruwe.

MWANAHARAMU · Jan 17, 2023

Axel Lloyd said:
Kipindi kile Urusi ilikua imejikamilisha Kwa mavifaa yote,si ndege si Makombora si AD si mavifaru si ma APC lakini ikashindwa kuichukua,wakati huo Ukraine ikiwa dhaifu walichokua wanafanya ni kuretreat tu.

Kua na wanajeshi wengi ambao hawana vifaa muhimu hakukuhakikishii ushndi ingekua hivyo waarabu wangekua washaifuta Israel Kwa uso wa Dunia pale Middle east.

Kumbuka Kwasasa warusi wanachezea kichapo pale Kreminna,ikitokea Kreminna imeanguka bhas jua kuisupply Bakhmut ni shughuli maana Kreminna ni kama Supply Hub ya Urusi Kwasasa. Kreminna ikianguka Severodonetsk ijiandae. Hapo Kreminna warusi wameshaanza kupelekea reinforcement maana kuna taarifa majeshi ya Ukraine yameshaanza kuingia kwenye huo mji.

Miji huwa inashikwa na vifaa au foot soldier?

Bakhmut ni heavier fortfied area pamoja na Soledar bila kuisahau Siversk ila nimekuoa maelezo kwa nini? Bakhmut ilishindikana?

Kreminma kwani Jeshi la Ukraine lipo kilomita ngapi kuuteka mji?

kp kipanya44 · Jan 17, 2023

IFAC said:
Halafu mwambie ni utaratibu wa kisoviet kubadilisha military kamanda.

Mwambie afuatilie Toka vita ya kwanza ya Dunia na ya pili jinsi walivyokuwa wanabadilisha na Bado wao huibuka washindi.

Ila kilichofanyika ni kumpa jenerali Gerasimanov kuwa kamanda mkuu ambayo Toka mwanzoni yule jamaa alikuwa chini yake hivyo hakuna jipya.

Hebu tupe mafanikio ya huyo jenelali wenu mnayemuita Armageddon, mbali na kulenga soft target kama miundombinu ya umeme na maji.., tuambie amelisaidia jeshi la Urusi kusonga mbele sentimita ngapi,

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MWANAHARAMU · Jan 17, 2023

kp kipanya44 said:
Kuna wenzio walisema urusi atamaliza hii vita ndani ya siku tatu,tukawatunzia coment zao zikawaumbua hapa, hivyo jaribu kuwepo akiba ya maneno,

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Kwanza Sina wenzangu humu

Mwenzangu ni mke wangu hivyo nakuomba urekebishe kauli na uombe radhi.

Tunza hii komenti mpaka mwezi wa tatu tutaizungumzia battle of Kramatorsk

mohamedidrisa789 · Jan 17, 2023

Axel Lloyd said:
Kipindi kile Urusi ilikua imejikamilisha Kwa mavifaa yote,si ndege si Makombora si AD si mavifaru si ma APC lakini ikashindwa kuichukua,wakati huo Ukraine ikiwa dhaifu walichokua wanafanya ni kuretreat tu.

Kua na wanajeshi wengi ambao hawana vifaa muhimu hakukuhakikishii ushndi ingekua hivyo waarabu wangekua washaifuta Israel Kwa uso wa Dunia pale Middle east.

Kumbuka Kwasasa warusi wanachezea kichapo pale Kreminna,ikitokea Kreminna imeanguka bhas jua kuisupply Bakhmut ni shughuli maana Kreminna ni kama Supply Hub ya Urusi Kwasasa. Kreminna ikianguka Severodonetsk ijiandae. Hapo Kreminna warusi wameshaanza kupelekea reinforcement maana kuna taarifa majeshi ya Ukraine yameshaanza kuingia kwenye huo mji.

[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787] upo ndotoni nini.kremina gani iyo unayoisema.habari ya kremina na stavote ilishakufa muda tu.au ulikuwa haupo duniani [emoji23][emoji23]

Axel Lloyd · Jan 17, 2023

IFAC said:
Miji huwa inashikwa na vifaa au foot soldier?

Bakhmut ni heavier fortfied area pamoja na Soledar bila kuisahau Siversk ila nimekuoa maelezo kwa nini? Bakhmut ilishindikana?

Kreminma kwani Jeshi la Ukraine lipo kilomita ngapi kuuteka mji?

Hizo ground forces bila vifaa dhabiti wanashikaje hiyo miji,au Kwa sala?!

Wewe unadhani kwanini Ukraine inaomba ipewe vifaru,APC,Stingers,ATGM Kwa ajili ya wanajeshi wake wa ardhini?!

Bugucha · Jan 17, 2023

Good evening friends
Yaani Ukraine imesema hakuna ADS inayoweza kuzui kh-22 missiles 🇷🇺🇷🇺🔥🔥🔥

HIMARS · Jan 17, 2023

Ukraine imeomba
IFV, Tanks, Artillery
Anahitaji Tanks 1000

Artillery ammo 1,000,000

Axel Lloyd · Jan 17, 2023

mohamedidrisa789 said:
[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787] upo ndotoni nini.kremina gani iyo unayoisema.habari ya kremina na stavote ilishakufa muda tu.au ulikuwa haupo duniani [emoji23][emoji23]

Embu amka haraka Sana utajikolea Shekhe

Ukraine wameshaichukua Dibrova wiki mbili zilizopita,Kuzmyne yote karibu inaenda kwa Ukraine.

1.Hii Ramani ya Kwanza ni wiki mbili zilizopita
KREMENNA AXIS /1515 UTC 3 JAN/ West of the P-66 HWY, RU forces have attempted to stage attacks at Ploschanka. Shelling continues along the line of contact, following heavy fighting near Dibrova on 1-2 JAN. FEBA assessed to be E of Dibrova.

2.Hii ni Ramani ya wiki hii
KREMINNA AXIS /1320 UTC 16 JAN/ RU forces conducted fire missions on Kuzmyne, indicating the presence of UKR forces. The Forward Edge of the Battle Area (FEBA) is assessed to extend from the center of Kreminna in a southern direction to the banks of the Sievro-Donets River.

Bugucha · Jan 17, 2023

Axel Lloyd said:
Habari za siku Mrusi wa Kibaigwa

HIMARS hazifanyi kazi mpaka itokee sherehe,waulize hawa vibaka wa Wagner kilichowakuta baada ya kuunguzwa na HIMARS, mbona nyie Makombora yenu mnarusha Kwa mwezi mara mbili halafu ndo mnataka mpigane na NATO[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Yesterday, a unit of Wagner soldiers is being targeted inside Soledar. Magyar's recon unit led a HIMARS strike onto an enemy positions after which two dozen Wagners died.

#Geolocation of the newest #HIMARS strike in #Soledar. @GeoConfirmed
JAGGA JAGGA!
48°41'19.2"N 38°03'13.0"E

Axel Lloyd · Jan 17, 2023

Bugucha said:
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Kwamba unataka kusema nini?!

Ukraine haina AD dhidi ya ballistic missiles na heavy missiles kama Kh-22 carrier killer ndio maana wameomba AD za west kama SAMP-T na Patriot zenye uwezo wa kutungua Makombora kama hayo.

MWANAHARAMU · Jan 17, 2023

kp kipanya44 said:
Hebu tupe mafanikio ya huyo jenelali wenu mnayemuita Armageddon, mbali na kulenga soft target kama miundombinu ya umeme na maji.., tuambie amelisaidia jeshi la Urusi kusonga mbele sentimita ngapi,

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Mafanikio kwa maana ipi?

The 13 · Jan 17, 2023

Mtoto wa nzi said:
Mwenzako kafa na medali ...wewe ukifa tutakutia gunzi au kipande Cha mkaa ....

Bro jiheshim

mohamedidrisa789 · Jan 17, 2023

Axel Lloyd said:
Embu amka haraka Sana utajikolea Shekhe

Ukraine wameshaichukua Dibrova wiki mbili zilizopita,Kuzmyne yote karibu inaenda kwa Ukraine.

1.Hii Ramani ya Kwanza ni wiki mbili zilizopita
KREMENNA AXIS /1515 UTC 3 JAN/ West of the P-66 HWY, RU forces have attempted to stage attacks at Ploschanka. Shelling continues along the line of contact, following heavy fighting near Dibrova on 1-2 JAN. FEBA assessed to be E of Dibrova.

2.Hii ni Ramani ya wiki hii
KREMINNA AXIS /1320 UTC 16 JAN/ RU forces conducted fire missions on Kuzmyne, indicating the presence of UKR forces. The Forward Edge of the Battle Area (FEBA) is assessed to extend from the center of Kreminna in a southern direction to the banks of the Sievro-Donets River.

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Umerishwa matango pori[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787].sio kila sehemu basi unapata taarifa ya kweli kuna vyanzo vya kuaminika.hiyo ni january 14

MWANAHARAMU · Jan 17, 2023

Axel Lloyd said:
Hizo ground forces bila vifaa dhabiti wanashikaje hiyo miji,au Kwa sala?!

Wewe unadhani kwanini Ukraine inaomba ipewe vifaru,APC,Stingers,ATGM Kwa ajili ya wanajeshi wake wa ardhini?!

Sala ndio nini?
Unadhani kwa nini Russia ilifanya partial mobilization ikiwa vifaa pekee unaweza hold ground?

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