Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Kavinsky said:

safi,
angalau upo wewe unayekuja na fact kuliko huyo jamaa niliye m'quote'. Kaja na taarifa ya uwongo kutetea na wenzake wenye mahaba mbele wamemsapoti.
binafsi hufuatilia taarifa toka vyanzo vyote west na east. Most of russian media ni state-owned.
Media huru zililazimika kufunga shughuli baada ya ile sheria ya march.
je uliwahi kusikia maandamano ya ndani ya urusi kupitia rt au tass?
uchumi wa urusi ume decline, je umesikia cost of living crisis kupitia hizo media kama unavyosikia crisis ndani ya western?
kulikuwa na anti war protest ndani ya urusi,je ulipata habari hizo via rt or tass?
Je hii inamaanisha hali ndani ya urusi ni shwari kabisa?
hiyo ya kutoa resource kutoka sector nyingine ni nadharia kweli kwa sababu hatujui kabisa yanayoendelea ndani ya urusi kwa sababu hakuna uhuru wa media.

-sawa mfumo wa swift umezuiwa lakini kama bado unaweza kuendelea kufanya biashara kama anavyouza mbolea afrika kwa nini asiuze na mafuta?

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Tupo pamoja,
Idea ya Freedom of press ni mtambuka. Inategemea unaangalia kutoka angle ipi. Mm naamini hakuna media ambayo ni walau 60% free. Ni either inasave purpose kwa maslahi ya serikali, vikundi vya watu fulani wenye mamlaka nyuma ya mamlaka tunazozijua na agenda fulani, corporations, etc.

Kama ambavyo Russia wanaficha maandamano ya watu wao ndivyo west pia wanaficha maandamano ya watu wao wanaopinga NATO na vita! Baadhi ya vyombo vya habari vilivyokuwa na mtizamo tofauti kuhusu hii saga vilifungiwa huko west pia kwenye mitandao yao ya kijamii.

Hakuna serikali duniani itayoruhusu habari mbaya isiyozitaka ziachiwe kwa public kwa kigezo cha uhuru wa habari. Mifano ipo mingi ya kina Assange na wiki leaks.

My point exactly ni kwamba vikwazo havijafua dafu na mfano mzuri ni huo wa swift. haumfungii mtu Swift unless una lengo la kumcripple asifanye biashara za kimataifa. Otherwise kwa nini umfungie Swift ilhali bado unampa nafasi ya kutrade international!? Ukiona mtu kafungiwa Swift lkn bado kwenye international trade yupo jua basi hiyo njia ya kumfungia swift imefeli/haijazaa matunda! Hao wafanyabuashara wa TZ walioagiza hiyo mbolea wameilipia kwa namna gani ikiwa swift urusi haifanyi kazi!? Au walibeba pesa wakapeleka au wamepewa bure!? Urusi ametafuta namna za kubypass hicho kikwazo cha swift na amefanikiwa kwa kiasi kikubwa. Huo ni mfano mmojawapo unaoonesha namna vikwazo (vyote) vilivyobuma. Walitaka kuisusia gesi lkn Ameuza gesi zaidi, wamesusia mafuta lkn bado anayauza, wameweka price cap lkn bado anauza kwa bei yake, wamemfungia swift lkn bado anafanya biashara kimataifa, walitaka watu wamtenge na kumsusa lkn ndio kwanza kina Wang Yi wanasema uhusiano umezidi, walifunga makampuni yao yamechukuliwa na warusi nk. Nk.

Tukisema vikwazo vimebuma hatumaanishi havikuwa na impact kbs bali havikuwa na impact kusudiwa walau hata kwa nusu.

Urus na ukrain ni ndugu wale inashangaza kuona wanauana wenyewe kwa wenyewe

Kavinsky said:

safi,
angalau upo wewe unayekuja na fact kuliko huyo jamaa niliye m'quote'. Kaja na taarifa ya uwongo kutetea na wenzake wenye mahaba mbele wamemsapoti.
binafsi hufuatilia taarifa toka vyanzo vyote west na east. Most of russian media ni state-owned.
Media huru zililazimika kufunga shughuli baada ya ile sheria ya march.
je uliwahi kusikia maandamano ya ndani ya urusi kupitia rt au tass?
uchumi wa urusi ume decline, je umesikia cost of living crisis kupitia hizo media kama unavyosikia crisis ndani ya western?
kulikuwa na anti war protest ndani ya urusi,je ulipata habari hizo via rt or tass?
Je hii inamaanisha hali ndani ya urusi ni shwari kabisa?
hiyo ya kutoa resource kutoka sector nyingine ni nadharia kweli kwa sababu hatujui kabisa yanayoendelea ndani ya urusi kwa sababu hakuna uhuru wa media.

-sawa mfumo wa swift umezuiwa lakini kama bado unaweza kuendelea kufanya biashara kama anavyouza mbolea afrika kwa nini asiuze na mafuta?

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Sawa tumekubali, basi tunaomba ututajie vyombo huru vya habari kutoka West.

Naona kichapo kinatembezwa mpaka Moscow [emoji16][emoji1787][emoji28][emoji2]

kp kipanya44 said:

[emoji1255]as of now, there are no signs that #China will agree to send any #weapons to the #RussianFederation.[emoji298]View attachment 2532998

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China ana vingi vya kupoteza ikiwemo Taiwan kutambuliwa kama Nchi

[emoji298][emoji1255]During his nightly address on Feb. 27, President Volodymyr Zelensky stressed the critical importance of modern combat aircraft for Ukraine's defense and said that the country's allies need to move past their taboo on supplying aircraft to Ukraine.

Zelensky referenced today's drone attack on Ukraine to further his point. Only 11 out of the 14 drones launched by Russia were successfully shot down. Furthermore, three workers from the State Emergency Service in Khmelnytskyi sustained injuries and two lost their lives[emoji298][emoji298]

Meckyrich said:

Russia wamesema wanakuja na Sanctions ambazo zitaharibu uchumi wa US & Canada. Russia soon itatangaza sanctions, ameacha warukeruke yeye atatupa jiwe gizani. Uzuri wa Russia huwa hatabiriki kila kete anayogusa ni yamoto. Tuendelee kunywa soup nyama ziko chini.

Wale LGBTQ Uganda sio sehemu salama tena.

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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 🤣 🤣 Mwamba katuliza akili anakuja na Kristapen kwa ajili ya Gaidi namba moja ulimwenguni.

Extrovert said:

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Zele anasema Russia anapiga kipigo kibaya sana bhakmut kwamba wanajeshi wake kukaza ni swala ambalo ameliita la kishujaa sana. Hii ina maanisha hata angekuwa ni yeye angekimbiza kipele chake fasta sana nje ya uwanja wa mapambano.

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Yaani Kuna Video moja Mpaka Niliwaonea Huruma
Yaani Jamaa wamezungukwa Kwenye Pango Lipo chini ya Jengo lililo Fumuliwa Sasa Kila Upande Vitu Vinalia Juu Ndege
Mjeda Anarekodi Huku Kamasi Zinamtoka Anasema Hali nimbaya
Adui Yupo kila Kona Anakuja kwa Kasi
Mashambulizi Mwanzo Mwisho Hajamaliza Kitu Kikatua Puuu .
Nadhani Simu waliokota Wagner

MOTOCHINI said:

Yaani Kuna Video moja Mpaka Niliwaonea Huruma
Yaani Jamaa wamezungukwa Kwenye Pango Lipo chini ya Jengo lililo Fumuliwa Sasa Kila Upande Vitu Vinalia Juu Ndege
Mjeda Anarekodi Huku Kamasi Zinamtoka Anasema Hali nimbaya
Adui Yupo kila Kona Anakuja kwa Kasi
Mashambulizi Mwanzo Mwisho Hajamaliza Kitu Kikatua Puuu .
Nadhani Simu waliokota Wagner

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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Nitumie hio video mzee nishushie na Guiness Smooth

HIMARS said:

China ana vingi vya kupoteza ikiwemo Taiwan kutambuliwa kama Nchi

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Na isingekuwa hivyo angekuwa anmeshatuma zamani,sema hii vita ya Ukraine na urusi imemfanya china kuwa makini sana katika nyendo zake!!

[emoji298][emoji1255]One in three Ukrainian refugees in the European Union ultimately wants to return home. At the same time, a similar proportion would like to remain in their host countries, according to a new survey released on Feb. 28 by the EU Agency for Fundamental Rights (FRA).

The online poll was conducted between August and September 2022, with 14,685 Ukrainian refugees taking part. The participants are now living in ten EU countries (Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, and Spain).

According to the survey, only a third of respondents have a paid job, and 79% said they faced financial challenges[emoji298][emoji298]

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[emoji1255][emoji298]Russian officials are promoting an information operation that falsely frames Russia’s war in Ukraine as existential for Russia, the Insitute for the Study of War wrote in its latest update.

During an interview with TV channel Rossiya-1 on Feb. 26, Russian dictator Vladimir Putin said he did not know if "such an ethnic group as the Russian people can survive in the form in which it exists today" if the West succeeds in "destroying the Russian Federation and establishing control over its fragments," the ISW reported in its update. [emoji298][emoji298]

kp kipanya44 said:

Naona kichapo kinatembezwa mpaka Moscow [emoji16][emoji1787][emoji28][emoji2]View attachment 2533002

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Hamna shambulio lililofanyika.

[emoji298][emoji1255]The destruction wrought by the Kremlin’s illegal and barbaric war in Ukraine is senseless and will require hundreds of billions of dollars of reconstruction.

Conferences, such as the one held in Lugano in July 2022, commit to supporting Ukraine’s reconstruction process and ambitions; the G7 has repeatedly affirmed its support for Ukraine’s “repair, recovery and reconstruction,” seeking to coordinate international partners and international organizations and financial institutions; international private sector investors have started to sift for opportunities; and Ukrainian civil society organizations, notably the RISE Ukraine coalition, are undertaking tireless work to make “the reconstruction a model of integrity, sustainability and efficiency.”[emoji298][emoji1255]

"Sio kila tunachoambiwa tuseme ndio tu" alikika mwanjeshi wa Ukraine huko bakhamut.


Inaoneka jamaa anapingana na kamanda wake

iron curtain said:

Hizo fedha kama moto wa mabua dk zero kwisha,wazilete Tena zingine hizo hazitoshi .URUSI shida silaha analamba na hata fedha pia, kesho Tena utasikia US katoa $8bilion

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Hizi billion ni za mchongo kama za Mo Dewji tu pale Simba 🤣🤣🤣

Jana walichinjwa zaidi ya mia Tano 🥱🥱🥱🥱

Kichapo kinaendelea [emoji91][emoji91][emoji91][emoji123][emoji1255][emoji123][emoji1255]



#[emoji298][emoji298] In the past 24 hours, Ukraine’s Air Force has launched three strikes on enemy clusters. The Ukrainian missile and artillery units hit one Russian personnel cluster, one ammunition and military equipment cluster, and two air defense missile system positions.

Chibolo said:

Urus na ukrain ni ndugu wale inashangaza kuona wanauana wenyewe kwa wenyewe

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Wanaouawa pale ni machoko ya Nato yanayopambana kwa kivuli cha Ukraine.

Russia anabonda jamani tuache utani, kile kipigo hapo Bahmut sio mchezo. Mtu anabondwa mpaka unamuonea huruma.