Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

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Ukiidaka tuu...inalipuka na hunter yko unapoteza mara 2

Si wanasema zililetwa mwanzo

Ukrainian officials say Russians sustaining heavy losses in three hotspots along the front lines​

From CNN's Tim Lister, Svitlana Vlasova and Olga Voitovych

Ukrainian officials say Russian forces have kept up their bombardments across Donetsk region, with more than 200 strikes against the Bakhmut area alone in the past 24 hours — but they claim the Russians are losing hundreds of men a day across the front lines.

The eastern city of Bakhmut remains "the focus of the enemy's main attack," according to Serhii Cherevatyi, the spokesman for the Eastern Grouping of the armed forces.

Cherevatyi said it was difficult to tell whether the intensity of Russian attacks around Bakhmut was waning because of factors such as weather, the rotation of units or reserves being brought forward by the Russians.

However, he said Russian tactics have remained the same with small tactical groups "trying to deplete our defenses." He said soldiers from the Wagner mercenary group are near Bakhmut, with Russian troops providing reinforcements where necessary.

“We knock them out. In fact, there will be no more Wagner fighters in a little while if they continue the same dynamics," Cherevatyi said.

Cherevatyi drew a distinction between the battle for Bakhmut and fighting elsewhere. He said further north, Wagner was less in evidence around Lyman and Kupyansk, where regular Russian forces, supported by the Luhansk militia, had made more than 400 attacks over the past day.

“The main task now is to withstand, to deplete the enemy's forces, while units are being trained both in Ukraine and abroad, equipped with new defense equipment, and coordinated,” Cherevatyi said.

In and around the town of Avdiivka, in the Donetsk region, intense Russian bombardments and air strikes continue against Ukrainian defenses.

"All the time we were in the city, there were explosions. We did not see a single building that was not damaged. Unfortunately, there are still civilians in Avdiivka. People live in basements," military spokesman Oleksiy Dmytrashkivskyi said.

But he said many of the civilians were unwilling to leave, especially the elderly, and there has been no electricity in the city since May last year.

Dmytrashkivskyi said that the Russians were trying to bypass the town “and these attacks are constantly accompanied by shelling. Yesterday the enemy managed 26 attacks and suffered quite significant losses.

More than 100 people were killed and more than 240 wounded,” he claimed. “During the day, they attack with the help of aircraft, artillery and manpower. They are suffering heavy losses in manpower and equipment.”

Wakati mwingine tuwe makini na baadhi ya habari hizi za kuchongwa na CNN akishirikiana na waandishi wa habari wa Ukraine yenyewe, kama ingekuwa ni kweli Jeshi la Ukraine linafanya vizuri kwenye vita hii iweje yena leo Jenerali wa jeshi la Kimerikani anaye heshimika sana ana jitokeza adhalani na kukiri kwamba Kiev may fall in 72 hours,repeat fall in 72hours hiyo ni kauli ya Generali sio yangu.

Inakuwaje sasa sisi watu baki ndio tujifanye we know better masuala ya vita kuliko Majenerali wa VITA!!

Propaganda nyingine zinashangaza sana - na wapo baadhi ya wana JF wanao support adithi hizi za kutunga utasikia kwamba "eti Putin anafanya ziara nchini mwake akiambatana na watu watatu wanao mfanana - hivi mwanajeshi mwenye cheo cha Ukanali kama Putin umuogope nani mpaka kifikia hatua na kuwa na his double au triple etc. Adithi za magharibi hasa za tabloid ni burudani tosha.

 

[Kakijana]

Sasa tunajadili mambo ya Marekani ama ulaya??

Mkuu wewe ni mbabaishaji sana.

 

[Lesedi2020]

Saiz ataishia kuonya tu Sasa marekani wa siku zile wa kubishana na Uganda?

Aiby numeona mimi
Marekani huyu huyu anae sifiwa kuwa super power leo hii anaishia kuonya kweli kila chenye mwanzo hakikosi mwisho😄😄

 

[Kakijana]

Kuna mahali nimeuliza swali ambalo nimejijibu? Ninachosema hayo matamanio yanawezekana lakini si rahisi kiasi baaadhi ya watu wanavyodhani. Kwenye kutoa mifano niliona mambo ya "Crypto currencies" yakitajwa lakini ni lazima ifahamike kwamba wanasiasa kwenye nchi nyingi sana wana hofu juu ya uimara wa mfumo wenyewe wa Cyrpto Currency.

Mabenki mengi ya serikali za ulimwengu wana hofu kubwa sana ya kusambaratika kwa uchumi wa dunia kama sehemu kubwa ya biashara itafanyika kupitia mfumo huo. Yale yale ya kusema kuwa Dollar haifanani na uchumi wa Marekani ndiyo yanaulizwa jinsi mfumo huo wa biashara utakavyoaminika na kudhibitika hata pia kwenye mambo kama ya utakatishaji fedha.

Crypto iko vizuri tuu mkuu..inatumika zaid individualy na kwa baadhi ya makampuni makubwa, Nchi km North korea ndio njia yake kuu ya international transaction, wana expert wazuri kwenye tech ya crypto maana ndio moja ya loophole survivng yao ilipo..

 

[umshana]

Mkuu labda nikuulize wewe kama wewe sera za mashoga(lgtb society) wewe binafsi unazichukuliaje...

Ni ngumu kuwa upande wa kitu ambacho huna element nacho...yaan 'bond' either physical or emotional...

Kama umeweza kumfuatilia Biden kiasi hicho naamini pia unajua mengi ya ulimwengu huu na nikwanini hadi wanatufikisha huku tunapolia napo sasa.. Sio kwa bahati mbaya kuwa tumefika hapa tulipo bali kuna waliotufikisha hapa kwa maslahi yao..
Na kama huyajui maslahi yao ila unaijua historia ya Biden basi taarifa zako unazoandika hapa itakua ni mihemko yako binafsi, ila km unayajua maslahi ya waliotufikisha hapa basi naamini una mawili kati ya wewe ni mnufaika na West wanachokifanya au wewe ni mbishi tuu kwakua una ile 'bond'

Baada ya hayo...ukisisitiza afrika tukatoka kwenye ukoloni mamboleo utakua umeokoa kizazi chako pakubwa kuliko hapa kilipo huko 'future time'
Hata kama west ndio wawezeshi wa maisha yako, wakikuachia ukawa huru basi utaweza kupigania kizazi chako cha baadae kikawa na nguvu kushinda hapa ulipo sasa..West sio watu wenye utu kwa race zingine tofauti na wao..labda km wewe ni race yao na upo hapa unapigania manufaa yenu ki-propaganda

Mkuu unauliza maswali ya ajabu kidogo. "LGBT society" - sidhani kitu kama hiki kianwezakana. Kila jamii inategemea kuzaa na kulea watoto - na watu hao hawazai. Ninavyojua wako kote duniani kama asilimia ndogo ya watu watu, labda %% 2-3? Ninawaona kama hao wote walio tofauti na "wastani" au "kawaida" - watoto wanazaliwa zeruzeru, vipofu, wenye vipaji vya pekee au wale wanaokosa uwezo fulani . Wako huntha wanaozaliwa na dalili ya jinsia zote mwilini, na wengine wanaojisikia kuwa na jinsia tofauti tangu utotoni.
Naona changamoto ya kila jamii kukubali na kuwapa nafasi watu wote wasio na tabia ya kuudhi wengine hata kama "si kawaida". Kwa macho ya dini nawaona wote kama sehemu ya uumbaji wa Mungu.
Ukiangalia historia ya binadamu, jamii tofauti zilikuwa na njia tofauti kushughulika changamoto hiyo. Kuna jamii ambako watu walifundishwa kuhofia walio tofauti na hata kuwaua (mfano kuua mapacha, au watoto walemavu), kuna jamii zilizokuwa tayari kuishi nao na kuwapa nafasi fulani. Mbinu hizo tofauti utaona kote duniani, kama ni Afrika au Asia au Ulaya au wapi.
Siamini ni kweli kwamba hao washoga hawakuwepo Afrika, walikuwepo na wako kama kila sehemu ya dunia.
Hasa katika majadiliano yetu kuhusu vita ya Ukraine sioni itasaidia kitu chochote kuingia katika kelele kuhusu "mashoga" au "nchi za lgbt".
Niliuliza wachache hapa wana sababu gani kuita viongozi au wanasiasa fulani kwa jina hilo - sijaona jibu (ila matusi hapa na pale...)

 

[Lesedi2020]

❗️Putin Invited To BRICS Summit In South Africa Despite Arrest Warrant

Russian President Vladimir Putin is invited to the BRICS summit in South Africa, despite his arrest warrant issued by the International Criminal Court, according to South African Foreign Minister Naledi Pandor.

According to her, the Russian leader is expected at the summit, which will be held in August, although the ICC warrant is "some cause for concern."

"In the past, I have repeatedly pointed out double standards in world problems. There are many other countries involved in conflicts, but none of them were interested in the ICC," she said.

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Aione kipanya hii
Au muandikie kwa kiswahili🤣🤣

 

[Labani og]

Kuna watu bado hawaelew maana ya hii SMO .......hii ni ku demilitarize ukrine plus ku buy time ili kuleta economic hardship Kwa EU

Ukibisha jibu swali hili

Kama hypersonic missile za Russia haziwezi kuwa intercepted.......kwanini asivunje ikulu ya zelensky na hizo missiles....ili kumfuta kabisa .......
.the answer is Russia anapigana friendly ili ku buy time[emoji1179][emoji1179][emoji1179][emoji1179][emoji1179]

Nukuu
Xi jinping: we're the one driving these changes
Putin: I agree

Je ni changes Gani hizo

 

[Lesedi2020]

Yaani Kuna nyingine amepeleka kwanza?

Tatuzo lipo kwenye lugha
Sometimes tumsaidieni kutafsiri yeye akiona habari hata face book anaeleta hivyo hivyo ilivyo hajui nini walichomainisha🤣🤣

 

[umshana]

Huyo ni mmoja wa Majenelali wachache kwenye jeshi la Merikani wenye akili iliyo tulia unlike Waziri wake wa Ulinzi na Blinken - hao akili zao fyatu kabisa, hawana habari kwamba Putin akihamua tu basi Kiev na puppet wao clown Zelensky may fall in just 72 hours!! Putin anawafanyia timing tu akisubiri an opportune time ya ku-spring up a MEGA surprise attack - they won't even know what hit them!

Waukraine wamshukuru Mungu kwamba Rais Putin ana ubinadamu SANA sana kwa kuwa anawachukulia Waukraine kama ndugu zake, kama angelihamua kutumia mbinu za Kimerikani za "shock and awe" nawahakikishieni hakuna Mu-Ukraine hata mmoja angepona na infrastructures zote za Ukraine zingekuwa reduced back to stone age era.

Mkuu umeamua kumsifu jenerali Mark Milley kwa sababu unapenda nukuu "Kyiv might fall in 72 hours"???? Samahani lakini unachekesha kidogo. Alichosema ilikuwa maoni yake kabla ya uvamizi wa Urusi. Sia sababu wala utaalamu wa kumpinga - nadhani kama Warusi wasingefanya makosa yale mapunbavu waliyofanya labda wangeweza!
Ila jenerali Milley anaendelea kuongoza jeshi la marekani hadi leo. Ukitaka kujua jinsi alivyoona mwendo wa vita, usiridhike na nusu setensi aliyosema kwenye Februari 2022.
Ungeweza kuangalia interview yake ya juzi hapa


Hapo anasema Urusi imeshadhindwa kutimiza malengo yake. Anataja sababu kama vile Urusi ilishindwa kutawala anga juu ya Ukraine, halafu mtindo wa uongozi upande wa Urusi ni bado ya zamani (amri kutoka juu) ilhali Ukraine imekabidhi maazimio mengi kwa makomanda uwanjani.
Sipendi kumsifu jenerali wa US lakini ukimpenda, basi sikilita anachosema.

 

[umshana]

Kuna watu bado hawaelew maana ya hii SMO .......hii ni ku demilitarize ukrine plus ku buy time ili kuleta economic hardship Kwa EU

Ukibisha jibu swali hili

Kama hypersonic missile za Russia haziwezi kuwa intercepted.......kwanini asivunje ikulu ya zelensky na hizo missiles....ili kumfuta kabisa .......
.the answer is Russia anapigana friendly ili ku buy time[emoji1179]

Mkuu unapata wapi picha kwamba "Russia anapigana friendly"????
Uharibifu kwenye nyumba za watu raia na mauaji kwenye miji ni "friendly"??

 

[Sigonella Island]

Mwanamgambo wa Ukraine akitoroka mapigano huku kaacha kende nyuma

 

[umshana]

Mwanamgambo wa Ukraine akitoroka mapigano huku kaacha kende nyumaView attachment 2563269

Mkuu mbona unakopi propaganda ya kijinga kabisa na kutuletea??? Hii ni picha kutoka China, si Ukraine.

 

[Kakijana]

Ndio tunajiuliza hayo majeshi yatavamia ardhi ya US ili kuleta Vita ?..Na kama ni hivyo, je yatavuka bahari au yatapitia mipaka ya Mexico na Canada ili kuifikia ardhi ya US ?

Kuna manyambizi ya kutosha, manowari za kitosha, kuna ma-icbm mkorea kaskaz ana mdude unatembea umbali wa kilomta 15k wakat kutoka US had kwke ni kilomita 11.5k uchina hvohvo mzigo wake unatembea kilomt 12k na kutoka us had uchina ni kilomita 11.6k sasa urusi si mdomo na pua kbs...visiwa vyake vinakaribiana na alaska kbs ht kilomita 100 nying..unahis Uk na visiwa vyake atasubutu atawazuia hao jamaa na icbm zao? Zikija usawa wa anga lako hata uzipasulie huko juu hyo uranium itakutesa japan cha mtoto
Sanasana Canada ndio atatoa msaada..japan hasubut ata kurusha bom la mkono...maana katopedo kamoja tuu kanainua bahar inaifunika japan kwa masaa mawili..maji yakiisha tunakuta samaki tuu wanakula watu..kama samaki watakuepo hai lkn..south korea ndio atataman ajigeuze jiwe la baharini asizamishwe..maana ni kakipisi ka muundo wa kigamboni hivi..huku na huku maji...australia nae hana jambo, kwanza anataka ajitoe chini ya ukoloni wa UK, wanaimba kila leo King Charles sio mfalme wao...why wanaish chin ya sheria za Uk?..
Mbinyo wa US unambana kwelkwel..na US alivyo mpiga dili anataka amuuzie Australia manyambizi 5, huku operation ni kulinda base za jeshi la AUKUS...US anawafanya wazungu waonekane wajinga kukithiri

 

[Kakijana]

Mkuu mbona unakopi propaganda ya kijinga kabisa na kutuletea??? Hii ni picha kutoka China, si Ukraine.

Mbona uko serious sana mkuu...kama vile hii ni kazi ya kulipwa..twende kwa fact na utani kiasi..kwani uliambiwa kazi ya mshahara hii mkuu..au mwenzetu unalipwa[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

 

[Kakijana]

Mkuu unapata wapi picha kwamba "Russia anapigana friendly"????
Uharibifu kwenye nyumba za watu raia na mauaji kwenye miji ni "friendly"??

Mkuu basi tufanye Urusi haimwezi Ukrain....ndio maana hashindi vita..unakisia nini km Urusi itashinda hii SMO kwa haraka?
West hawatagharamika kama sasa..
West wataamua kumwongezea chokochoko russia
West wataamua kuhamishia nguvu uchina, na uchina ataumia kwa vikwazo na uchumi utadorora asia nzima..
India atahadaika na gilba za US kumuandama mchina kwenye swala la mipaka yao ambayo haijakaa vizur..
Baada ya hapo hii SMO itakua kazi bure..isiyo ya mafanikio..na west watakua wameshinda na kuweka mizizi mikuu asia..

 

[umshana]

Mkuu basi tufanye Urusi haimwezi Ukrain....ndio maana hashindi vita..unakisia nini km Urusi itashinda hii SMO kwa haraka?
West hawatagharamika kama sasa..
West wataamua kumwongezea chokochoko russia
West wataamua kuhamishia nguvu uchina, na uchina ataumia kwa vikwazo na uchumi utadorora asia nzima..
India atahadaika na gilba za US kumuandama mchina kwenye swala la mipaka yao ambayo haijakaa vizur..
Baada ya hapo hii SMO itakua kazi bure..isiyo ya mafanikio..na west watakua wameshinda na kuweka mizizi mikuu asia..

Mkuu naona hatari ya Urusi kuporomoka. Kwa sasa si rahisi kuona jinsi watakavyomaliza. Putin aliongeza ugumu wa kupatana na Ukraine kwa kutangaza mikoa hii ya Ukraine kuwa sehemu za Urusi. Ukraine haitakubali kamwe (isipokuwa jeshi la Putin linafaulu kuteka Kyiv) na Putin hawezi kurudi nyuma. Zele ametangaza baada ya mauaji ya Bucha (kabla alikuwa tayari kupatana) anapaswa kupata kila kitu pamoja na Donbas na Krim.
Kwa hiyo ama Urusi anafaulu kushinda kabisa (ambayo sioni) au Urusi inapigwa hadi inapaswa kukubali aondoke.
na hapa naona hatari ya kuporomoka kwa Urusi (Medvedyev mwenyewe alisema vile). Hii ingekuwa hali ya hatari kwa Asia ya Kati.
Au wataendelea kuchinjana hadi kuchoka kabisa pande zote?

 

[T24]

Mipasho inaendelea

 

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Mkuu naona hatari ya Urusi kuporomoka. Kwa sasa si rahisi kuona jinsi watakavyomaliza. Putin aliongeza ugumu wa kupatana na Ukraine kwa kutangaza mikoa hii ya Ukraine kuwa sehemu za Urusi. Ukraine haitakubali kamwe (isipokuwa jeshi la Putin linafaulu kuteka Kyiv) na Putin hawezi kurudi nyuma. Zele ametangaza baada ya mauaji ya Bucha (kabla alikuwa tayari kupatana) anapaswa kupata kila kitu pamoja na Donbas na Krim.
Kwa hiyo ama Urusi anafaulu kushinda kabisa (ambayo sioni) au Urusi inapigwa hadi inapaswa kukubali aondoke.
na hapa naona hatari ya kuporomoka kwa Urusi (Medvedyev mwenyewe alisema vile). Hii ingekuwa hali ya hatari kwa Asia ya Kati.
Au wataendelea kuchinjana hadi kuchoka kabisa pande zote?

Unawaza ujinga wenzako toka smo inaanza walisema urusi inaanguka kiuchuni mpaka leo urus inapanda kiuchuni

Russia sio zimbabwe kwa hakika

Russia hakuna maandano
Ila ulaya yapo kila kona
Kisa au sababu ni uchumi tu kwenda yombo

Urus juzi katia kiberit drone ya super power
Mpaka saiv kimya

Na jana amepitisha drone zake eneo ambalo liko chini yake usa na ameambiwa alipue aone
Watu wanafanya trip daily na hakuna cha kumfanya

Russia sio zimbabwe
Akili zenu za kinyumbu pelekeno hukoo

 

[Extrovert]

Kinzhai ilienda 136 meter deep hapo lazima USA atiye adabu wanasema komandoo wengi wa America walifukiwa ndani, maiti zinasafilishwa kimya kimya kwenda Marekani.

Hii mbona kama Nuclear kabisa, 🤣

 

[Sigonella Island]

Mkuu mbona unakopi propaganda ya kijinga kabisa na kutuletea??? Hii ni picha kutoka China, si Ukraine.

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The head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the US Armed Forces, General Mark Milley, called Volodymyr Zelensky's goals, including the return of Crimea to Ukraine, "maximalist" and "extremely difficult" to achieve militarily.

Also today it became known that Kyiv refuses to negotiate peace even with its Western patrons, if they do not include Crimea.