Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Wanaanza kushtakiana! Je Kizhal ni taka? Watengenezaji wake ni wasaliti?? Au mfumo wa Putin unaunda ugumu wa kusema ukweli na badala yake kutangaza mafanikio bandia?



newsweek.com
Kinzhal Missile Makers 'Deceived' Putin, Says Ukrainian Ex-Intel Chief
The developers of Russia's hypersonic Kinzhal (Dagger) missile program "deceived" Russian President Vladimir Putin, according to the former chief of Ukraine's foreign intelligence service.
Mykola Malomuzh, who led Ukraine's foreign intelligence service until 2010, told Ukrainian media that the developers had touted the missile as a "superweapon," but that its effectiveness had failed to live up to the hype. Its capabilities have also been questioned by Western analysts.
This comes after the Kremlin said earlier in May that three scientists who worked on the Kinzhal missile system's development faced "very serious accusations," but declined to provide further information at the time.
In an open letter published online, the colleagues of Anatoly Maslov, Alexander Shiplyuk and Valery Zvegintsev protested the arrests of "three outstanding aerodynamic scientists."
Russian MiG-31 Jets with Kinzhals

Russian MiG-31 supersonic jets carrying hypersonic Kinzhal (Dagger) missiles fly over Red Square during the Victory Day military parade in Moscow on May 9, 2018. The missiles have been touted as impossible to intercept by Russia but Kyiv said it has shot down several of the hypersonic weapons this month.Kirill KUDRYAVTSEV/AFP via Getty Images
The letter from the members of Siberia's Khristianovich Institute of Theoretical and Applied Mechanics in the city of Novosibirsk said the three men had been arrested on suspicion of high treason. Shiplyuk was arrested in August 2022 and Maslov was detained by Russian authorities back in June, according to Russian state media.
Zvegintsev's arrest wasn't previously reported, but took place on April 7, according to Reuters, citing local media.
Separately, Russian physicist Dmitry Kolker, another scientist from Novosibirsk who was arrested in Siberia last summer on treason charges, reportedly died from terminal cancer in Moscow after being transported from his hospital bed by the Russian security service.
"The whole society was shocked and outraged" by his death, the open letter said.
The Kinzhal hypersonic missile system has been touted by Putin as "unrivaled in the world." Russia has said the air-launched missile, also known by its NATO designation of "Killjoy," can accelerate to ten times the speed of sound and has a range in excess of 2,000 kilometers, or 1,250 miles. However, Western experts have questioned the Kinzhal's capabilities, and its designation as a hypersonic weapon.
Earlier this month, Ukraine's military said it had successfully shot down six Kinzhals fired in an overnight barrage. Kyiv had previously said it had intercepted a Kinzhal using a U.S.-made Patriot air defense system, which Russia denied.
Malomuzh said the scientists were arrested after a Kinzhal strike failed to cause the damage it was expected to.
The Kinzhal's developers "clearly positioned" the Kinzhal to be a "superweapon that does not exist," Malomuzh said in an interview published on Monday, adding they "actually deceived Putin."

Reports of intercepted Kinzhal strikes show the attacks "ended in complete failure," Malomuzh told Ukrainian outlet TSN. "Therefore, the fate of these Daggers' developers will also end in complete failure, because they undermined the strategic basis of Russia's combat capability," Malomuzh added.
Newsweek has reached out to the Russian Defense Ministry and the Khristianovich Institute for comment via email.
In their open letter, the three scientists' colleagues said they "know each of them as a patriot and a decent person who is not capable of doing what the investigating authorities suspect them of."
"We are not only afraid for the fate of our colleagues," the open letter continued. "We just do not understand how to continue to do our job."
The Kinzhal was unveiled back in 2018 by Putin as part of a package of advanced weapons, and Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said in August 2022 that the missile had shown off its "brilliant characteristics" in Ukraine.
A truly hypersonic missile would be very difficult for air defenses to intercept, military expert David Hambling previously told Newsweek, but stressed that "all the indications are the Kinzhal is simply an air-launched ballistic missile" with a limited course-correction capacity.

(labda ni kweli kwamba fizikia inaunda matatizo ya kusahihisha mwendo wa roketi ikiwa na kasi kubwa sana???)
 
Mfumo wa S 350 wa urusi Unafanya kazi pale pale ukrine


Zile taka taka za patriots hazisikiki[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


The S-350 Vityaz, which entered service with the Russian armed forces in 2019, is capable of effectively destroying both ballistic and aerodynamic targets.
Russia's S-350 Vityaz surface-to-air missile (SAM) system shot down Ukrainian aircraft in the special operation zone in fully automatic mode, without the participation of an operator, a well-informed source told Sputnik.
The source said that “for the first time in the world the Vityaz performed the fully automated detection, tracking and destruction of Ukrainian air targets in combat; the surface-to-air missiles downed several Ukrainian warplanes and unmanned aerial vehicles.”
 
HIMARS said:
Huko Black Sea kumbe kuna Meli imepigwa afu watu kimya

Crimea bridge naona iko kwenye zoezi maana moshi umetanda
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Na hii umeiona kabla hujapost mkuu?👇 🇸🇮🔥

RU MOD:

"This morning, the Ukrainian Armed Forces unsuccessfully tried to attack the Black Sea Fleet's 'Ivan Khurs', which performs security tasks for the 'Turkish Stream' and 'Blue Stream' gas pipelines in Turkey's economic zone, with three unmanned boats.

All the enemy's gunboats were destroyed by fire from the Russian ship's weapons, 140 kilometers northeast of the Bosphorus. The 'Ivan Khurs' continues to carry out its tasks."
 
Ukraine's casualty data remains Zelensky's biggest secret - French edition of Valeurs Actuelles “However, from 40 to 60% of Ukrainian military personnel who were trained in France in 2022 no longer get in touch. We think that most are silent, because they have already died in battle, ” says the source of the publication.
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Funds from the sale of Zelensky's nationalized apartment in Yalta will be directed to the needs of the NVO “Zelensky’s apartment will be privatized and put up for sale. Then the auction procedure, sales - and the money will go primarily to the needs of the SVO, the families of the dead, the families of the mobilized. Such a social aspect of politics,” said Vladimir Konstantinov, Speaker of the State Council of the Republic of Crimea, on the air of the Rossiya-24 TV channel.
 
Labani og said:
Mfumo wa S 350 wa urusi Unafanya kazi pale pale ukrine


Zile taka taka za patriots hazisikiki[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


The S-350 Vityaz, which entered service with the Russian armed forces in 2019, is capable of effectively destroying both ballistic and aerodynamic targets.
Russia's S-350 Vityaz surface-to-air missile (SAM) system shot down Ukrainian aircraft in the special operation zone in fully automatic mode, without the participation of an operator, a well-informed source told Sputnik.
The source said that “for the first time in the world the Vityaz performed the fully automated detection, tracking and destruction of Ukrainian air targets in combat; the surface-to-air missiles downed several Ukrainian warplanes and unmanned aerial vehicles.”
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Hakuna tena kidudu kinacho itwa patriots kwenye nchi inayo itwa Ukraine ishaenda na mma kama Bakhmut
 
kp kipanya44 said:
[emoji298][emoji298]Russia has struggled to maintain discipline in its army during the whole war in Ukraine, but its issues "have highly likely worsened" since October 2022 following the first wave of mobilization, U.K. Defense Ministry reported on May 24.

Learn more: UK Defense Ministry: Russia struggles to improve its military discipline issues

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"The whole war".

Jombaaa... hii sio "war". Hii ni Special Military Ops.
 
jameshyela said:
Ukraine's casualty data remains Zelensky's biggest secret - French edition of Valeurs Actuelles “However, from 40 to 60% of Ukrainian military personnel who were trained in France in 2022 no longer get in touch. We think that most are silent, because they have already died in battle, ” says the source of the publication.View attachment 2633517View attachment 2633518
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Mon cher, c'est tres vrai - lakini itabadilisha kitu? Kila upande ina siri hiyo, sivyo?
 
Kimbukiko said:
Marekani katengeneza ,kajaribu , kamiliki na hata kutumia nukes kabla hata Russia kujua nuclear ni nini .
Hawa wanaotishia nukes ni wendawazimu wasiojua wanaloongea ,na watu wasije wakafikiri Kuna nchi itatumia nukes Kwa purpose ya kivita tena ulimwengu huu , kuna mikataba kibao ya kimataifa na mutual assured destruction , ukitumia nukes , retaliation ni immediately na swiftly ,unafutwa kwenye ulimwengu huu
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Huo ni mtazamo wako, hakuna mktaba unaofuatwa linapokuja swala la maslahi ya nchi, Marekani kila wakati anavunja. Israel ndo kabisa . SASA hiyo mikataba inamhusu Mrusi na mchina tu na waafrika waarabu au?
 
Driver proffesional said:
Hakuna tena kidudu kinacho itwa patriots kwenye nchi inayo itwa Ukraine ishaenda na mma kama Bakhmut
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Rusheni tena kinzhal muone zinakaangwa angani mbona tok siku ile mliporusha 6 hamjarusha tena ninaibu tupu na wale scientists wa hypersonic waliokamatwa ninkwajili gani hahhaha aibu yenu aisee.
 
usheni tena kinzhal muone zinakaangwa angani mbona tok siku ile mliporusha 6 hamjarusha tena ninaibu tupu na wale scientists wa hypersonic waliokamatwa ninkwajili gani hahhaha aibu yenu aisee.
Kwanza inashangaza warushaji hawaja rusha sita pili waambieni akina baiden na wenzie walete zile chumachuma zao alafu uone kama hazitarushwa

Nakusalimia kwa jina la Bakhmut
 
vunjo said:
Rusheni tena kinzhal muone zinakaangwa angani mbona tok siku ile mliporusha 6 hamjarusha tena ninaibu tupu na wale scientists wa hypersonic waliokamatwa ninkwajili gani hahhaha aibu yenu aisee.
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Kwanza inashangaza warushaji hawaja rusha sita pili waambieni akina baiden na wenzie walete zile chumachuma zao alafu uone kama hazitarushwa


Tatu nakusalimia kwa jina la bahkmut bwana vunjo
 
umshana said:
Prigozhin anatabiri kipindi kigumu kwa Urusi... "Tuko sasa katika hali ambako tunaweza kupoteza Urusi. Tunahitaji kuanzisha sheria za kijeshi, kuita wananchi jeshini tena. Tunapaswa kuhamisha nguvukazi yote kwenda uzalishaji wa risasi. Tunapaswa kuacha barabara mpya, miundombinu mpya, lazima tufanye kazi kwa vita pekee. Urusi inahitaji kuishi kwa muda kama Korea Kaskazini, kufunga mipaka yote, kurudisha vijana wetu kutoka ng'ambo na kuchapa kazi ili tusipoteze nchi yetu!"

"Kuishi kama Korea Kaskazini" ni lugha ya kutisha ! (si kwa Ukraine, bali kwa Warusi wengi...)

Kuhusu hali ya jamii ya Urusi alisema: "Hii inaweza kuisha katika mapinduzi kama 1917; wanajeshi wakitangulia halafu wakifuatwa na familia zao".

Ingekuwa vema kama angekuwa nabii kweli, ila nahofia uzembe unaweza kudumu kuliko hofu ya Prigozhin (na matumaini ya wenine..)


news.yahoo.com
Yevgeny Prigozhin, the founder of the Wagner Group PMC, has said that Russia should prepare for a heavy war, introduce martial law and announce new waves of mobilisation, as well as "close all borders", as in North Korea, in order to not lose the country.
Source: Meduza citing Yevgeny Prigozhin in an interview with a pro-Kremlin political technologist, Konstantin Dolgov
Quote: "We are now in a state where we can simply lose Russia. Therefore, we must introduce martial law, we must announce new waves of mobilisation, we must transfer everyone we can to the ammunition production.
We must stop spending money on nothing, stop building new roads, new infrastructure facilities and work only for the war.
Russia needs to live like North Korea for a certain number of years, to close all borders, stop playing nice, take all our offsprings from abroad and work hard. Then we will see some results."
Details: Prigozhin responded with outrage that Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu's "son-in-law walks around aimlessly, while his daughter’s opening Kronshlot forts" instead of spending money on ammunition.
According to him, "children of ordinary people return in zinc coffins, torn to pieces" due to the so-called "special operation", while the children of the elite show off their luxurious and carefree lives.
Quote: "This split may end, as in 1917, in a revolution, when first the soldiers will stand up, and then their loved ones will stand up.
And you shouldn’t think that there are [just] hundreds, there are tens of thousands of the relatives [whose loved ones] have been killed [in the war – ed.]. There will probably be hundreds of thousands. We will not get away with this. And everything will end with the fact that it will be the St Bartholomew's Day massacre in one moment. The luxurious life of the scions will end on people’s pitchforks.
I recommend to the elite of the Russian Federation: collect your kids, b**ch, send them to war, and when you go to their funeral, when you start burying them, people will say, ‘Now everything is fair’."
More details: The founder of the Wagner Group does not believe in such an optimistic scenario of war started by Russia as Europe and America getting tired of the "Ukrainian conflict", and then China sitting everyone at the negotiating table and "agreeing that everything we have already grabbed [the Russians in Ukraine – ed.], is ours, and everything that was not grabbed is not ours".
According to Prigozhin's pessimistic scenario, Ukrainians are given missiles, they prepare troops, continue the offensive and try to counterattack.
Quote: "Perhaps, the counteroffensive will be successful somewhere, they will restore the borders to [the way they were in] 2014, and this can easily happen. They will attack Crimea, will try to blow up the Crimean bridge, cut off the supply routes. Therefore, we need to prepare for a heavy war."
Background: Yevgeny Prigozhin, known as Putin's chef, supported the war launched by the Kremlin against Ukraine and sent mercenaries of the Wagner Group to the front. However, he regularly criticises Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu and Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, Gerasimov.
On 14 April, Yevgeny Prigozhin advised the Russian authorities to declare the so-called "special military operation" over and concentrate on consolidating its hold on the occupied territories of Ukraine.
On 20 May, Prigozhin announced the complete capture of Bakhmut and the transfer of this Ukrainian city to the hands of Russian regular troops. He is planning to withdraw the Wagner Group soldiers from the front line for approximately two months for recovery.
The Ukrainian authorities assure that the fight for Bakhmut continues. The city was very badly destroyed as a result of attacks and assaults by the Russians.
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Bado mnamsikiliza Prigo? Hamkomi??
 
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