LIVE Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

LIVE Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

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⚡⚡The Russian army’s combat losses in Ukraine from February 24, 2022 to May 2, 2024 amount to about 470,870 invaders, including another 1,030 troops killed or wounded in action in the past day.
The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine said this in a post on Facebook, according to Ukrinform.

The Ukrainian defenders have also destroyed 7,332 enemy tanks (+20 in the past day), 14,096 armored combat vehicles (+29), 12,044 artillery systems (+20), 1,053 multiple launch rocket systems, 784 air defense systems (+4), 348 aircraft, 325 helicopters, 9,561 unmanned aerial vehicles (+23), 2,126 cruise missiles, 26 warships/cutters, 1 submarine, 16,224 motor vehicles (+49), and 1,988 special equipment units (+8).
 
French President Emmanuel Macron said he would consider sending troops to Ukraine in the case of a Russian breakthrough at the front or if Ukraine requested it, in an interview with the Economist published on May 2.

Macron added that such conditions did not currently exist.

In March, Macron called Russia's invasion of Ukraine "existential" for France and the rest of Europe. Later, Macron said he would not rule out the possibility of sending Western troops to Ukraine.

Macron reiterated this sentiment in his interview with the Economist, saying that Europe's "basic condition" of security depends on its ability to avoid defining concrete red lines.

"If Russia wins in Ukraine there will be no security in Europe," he said.

Kyiv has not appealed to the West to send its troops to Ukraine, instead asking for increased arms supplies to help Ukrainian soldiers fend off Russian aggression.

In a novel comparison, Macron said that France had sent troops to aid African nations in the Sahel when they had asked for help.

The French president also said Europe cannot always rely on the U.S. for defense and must learn to "get ready to protect ourselves."

The interview came ahead of a visit to France by Chinese President Xi Jinping in May. Macron is expected to try and convince Xi to use his influence over Russian President Vladimir Putin to seek an end to the full-scale war in Ukraine.

In recent months, Macron has become an increasingly outspoken advocate of European defense, championing increased defense production and military aid for Ukraine.
 
kp kipanya44 said:
French President Emmanuel Macron said he would consider sending troops to Ukraine in the case of a Russian breakthrough at the front or if Ukraine requested it, in an interview with the Economist published on May 2.

Macron added that such conditions did not currently exist.

In March, Macron called Russia's invasion of Ukraine "existential" for France and the rest of Europe. Later, Macron said he would not rule out the possibility of sending Western troops to Ukraine.

Macron reiterated this sentiment in his interview with the Economist, saying that Europe's "basic condition" of security depends on its ability to avoid defining concrete red lines.

"If Russia wins in Ukraine there will be no security in Europe," he said.

Kyiv has not appealed to the West to send its troops to Ukraine, instead asking for increased arms supplies to help Ukrainian soldiers fend off Russian aggression.

In a novel comparison, Macron said that France had sent troops to aid African nations in the Sahel when they had asked for help.

The French president also said Europe cannot always rely on the U.S. for defense and must learn to "get ready to protect ourselves."

The interview came ahead of a visit to France by Chinese President Xi Jinping in May. Macron is expected to try and convince Xi to use his influence over Russian President Vladimir Putin to seek an end to the full-scale war in Ukraine.

In recent months, Macron has become an increasingly outspoken advocate of European defense, championing increased defense production and military aid for Ukraine.
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Hivi zaidi ya vita zake kuteka makoloni France alishashinda vita gani na taifa linalojielewa. Hitler tu na bangi zake ndani ya wiki 6 tu tayari alikuwa kasha iteka Ufaransa, Ubelgiji na Uholanzi leo Macron anamtisha Putin😀😀. Mi nadhani aingie tu front kama ndani ya mwezi Surovikin hatakuwa anajenga Defensive Lines kuizunguka Paris.
 
France hawezi kupeleka regular troops hapo Ukraine.

Sababu ni rahisi sana.

Kitendo cha kufanya hivyo, kinabadili rules of the game.

Ina maana North Korea au Iran au Iraq au China au South Africa etc na wao rasmi wanaweza Sasa kupeleka vikosi vyao vikapigane vita upande wa Russia.

Na hapo hapo UNSC haitakuwa na cha kufanya maana rules ndio zimeshabadilika.

Kwa kifupi itakuwa na catastrophic kwa nchi ya Ukraine.
 
a4afrika said:
Binafsi huwa nasema, Kama Sisi ndio Watu, basi wao sio watu. Na kama wao ndio watu, basi sisi sio watu.

Kiumbe kisicho na AIBU ni kiumbe cha kipuuzi kuliko vyote. Hata mbwa hujishtukia anapfanya kosa, sio wazungu.
Anaweza kumuwinda mtoto wako amuue, akimkosa atakuja kwako kukulalamikia kwamba mwanao amemkimbia alipotaka kumuua, akitarajia umpe ushirikiano.

Ni mafala sana.
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Ebooo!
 
Wameingia

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Nilijua tu Ukraine ni kama nyama inayoiva kwa moto mdogo taratibu kwa muda mrefu katika oven, lazima nyama ya aina hii itakuwq laini na kuiva vyema.

Hatimae imekuwa, Ukraine imeshindwa vita, kelele kila kona kuinusuru kwenye hatari, Pope anasema wakubali, France inasema inatuma askari, Us hapo juzi bungeni walikuwa wakipiga kura kuisadia dola bilioni 61 na tayari zimewafikia, hii si ishara nzuri.

Silaha za NATO zinazidi kukaangwa, kibaya zaidi silaha za bei nafuu kama drones za lancet na shahed zinafanya uharibifu mkubwa wa silaha za NATO zenye gharama za mabilioni.

Kama lancet drone ni dola 35K lakini ni moja ya silaha inafanya maajabu.

Iran ina silaha za bei nafuu wanazotengeneza wao ambazo zina madhara. Hawa jamaa walijikita zaidi kutengeneza makombora ya masafa marefu yenye usahihi katika shabaha, pia walijikita sana kutengeneza drones za gharama nafuu za masafa marefu na zinazopiga kwa usahihi mkubwa wa shabaha.

Ndio maana wamepeleka drones hizi Russia ambapo ni tishio.

Waliona hawana haja ya kuwa na ndege kama F-16 au F-22 kwa mamilioni ya dola huku kuna missiles na drones zitakazoweza kufanya maajabu yale yale kwa gharama nafuu , ambapo fighter jets ingeweza fanya. Sasa hapo mjanja nani? Nchi kama Iran kwa uwezo wa tech walipofikia hawashindwi kutengeneza ndege kama F-22 Raptor.

Russia na Iran wanafahamu siri hii, ni ngumu kukabiliana na nchi inatumia drone iliyofungwa engine ya pikipiki ya kichina na inapiga silaha zako za gharama.
Utaumia tu, tumeshuhudia pale Gaza vijana wana rocket za kienyeji wanapiga merkava tanks yenye gharama karibu bilioni 8.




NATO ndio bado wana ushamba kushindanisha silaha zao kwa gharama kubwa huku zinapigwa kila siku vitani na kuleta hasara kubwa. Lockheed Martin ni wafanya biashara, Boeing ni wafanya biashara. Wanapotengeneza silaha za gharama ndivyo wanaingiza faida kubwa.

Gharama NATO wanayotumia kupambana na Russia ni kubwa lakini bado Ukraine inazidi kumalizwa.

Pia France kusema itapeleka jeshi ni unafiki tu, nchi za NATO zimepeleka askari wengi tu Ukraine lakini wanakaangwa kila leo.

Hivyo hii vita si kama tuifikiriavyo, matarajio ya NATO kummaliza Russia katika nguvu za kijeshi wakijua atatumia Sukhoi jets na kila aina ya silaha za gharama kuipiga Ukraine mambo yameenda tofauti.
Hizo hypersonic tu Russia anazipiga pale inapohitajika tu.

Hii vita NATO itaaibika sana.
 
goswe said:
⚡ "If you can't give enough weapons to Ukraine, how are you gonna win against China" - Kuleba
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Amekosa shukrani huyu

Ishu iliyopo sio "enough weapons". Ishu ni air superiority

Juzi hapa Russia ametoka kuangamiza silaha kule Odessa, hizi za kifurushi cha $61bil. Pia akapiga train iliyokuwa inaleta silaha.

Sasa kwa namna hii concept ya enough weapons inatokea wapi?

Russia ameshafunga anga kwa satellites na ana monitor every movement. Mkileta silaha anajua movements zake. Sasa hapo unatarajia nini?
 
Nkuba25 said:
Amekosa shukrani huyu

Ishu iliyopo sio "enough weapons". Ishu ni air superiority

Juzi hapa Russia ametoka kuangamiza silaha kule Odessa, hizi za kifurushi cha $61bil. Pia akapiga train iliyokuwa inaleta silaha.

Sasa kwa namna hii concept ya enough weapons inatokea wapi?

Russia ameshafunga anga kwa satellites na ana monitor every movement. Mkileta silaha anajua movements zake. Sasa hapo unatarajia nini?
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Hatari sana mkuu
 
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