LIVE Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

LIVE Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

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According to The Guardian, European countries are planning to deploy 120 fighter jets in the territory of Ukraine within the framework of the United Air Forces coalition in case of signing a peace agreement to protect the skies of Kiev, central and western Ukraine from Russian air attacks.

According to the supporters of the initiative created within the framework of the European unified defense air shield on the territory of Ukraine, it will be an air defense zone managed by the European Union, which will act independently of NATO and will prevent the attacks of Russian cruise missiles and drones on the cities and critical infrastructure of Ukraine.
Maana yake Russia nao akijibu kwa kuwatwanga, basi wasikimbilie kuililia NATO wala Marekani.

Hao jamaa wanarudia kosa lilelile lilosababisha vita hadi leo.

Nilidhani wanajifunza kitu, lakini ni wazi wanazidi kujifunga wao wenyewe.
 

US talks with Ukrainian opposition ‘alarming’ for Zelenskyy​


Reporting from Kyiv, Al Jazeera’s Assed Baig says it is concerning for Zelenskyy that the Trump administration is opening channels with Ukrainian opposition leaders.

“This will be alarming for President Zelenskyy’s administration,” Baig said. “As those relationships with the Trump administration sour, Trump officials seem to be looking to other people within Ukraine to talk to.”

Earlier, former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, an opposition leader, appeared to confirm talks with US officials, but he dismissed the idea of a wartime election to replace Zelenskyy.

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Duh!..
 
Iran imeipa Urusi drone na wenyewe imepewa ndege za su35 sasa niambie ninani kafaidika zaidi na hii biashara?
Win win situation...

Hizo Su-35 zilipotea kabisa kwenye anga la Ukraine.

Ila baada ya Marekani kusitisha msaada wa silaha huenda zikaanza kutamba tena.
 
Si ajabu Putin alikuwa akimweka mita 100 mbali naye kwenye ile meza ndeefu - kwa sababu ya unafiki wake.

Jamaa hana msimamo. Ana tamaa na ulafi, na pia mihemko mingi bila nguvu yoyote.

Ndiyo maana katimuliwa Afrika kwa kadhia kubwa.
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Win win situation...

Hizo Su-35 zilipotea kabisa kwenye anga la Ukraine.

Ila baada ya Marekani kusitisha msaada wa silaha huenda zikaanza kutamba tena.
Ok huu ndio ushahidi Sasa kua hii vita ilikua ni baina ya Urusi na USA indirect.ukraine walikua chambo TU.

Na kwa hiyo huu ndio ushahidi Tena kua Urusi haikusaidiwa na Iran Bali ni biashara ya win win situation.sasa niambie je win win situation kati ya USA na Ukraine ilikua wapi?
 

France to consider protecting European allies with its nuclear arsenal, Macron says​

By Joseph Ataman and Jessie Yeung, CNN
Updated 10:02 AM EST, Thu March 6, 2025
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France Televisions/Handout/Reuters
French President Emmanuel Macron warned that Europe was “entering a new era,” and that it would be “folly” to remain a “spectator” to the threat from Russia
ParisCNN —

France will consider extending the protection of its nuclear arsenal to its allies, French President Emmanuel Macron said Wednesday, while warning that Europe needs to be ready for the United States to not “remain by our side” in the Ukraine-Russia war.

“I’ve decided to open the strategic debate on the protection by our deterrence of our allies on the European continent,” he said in a live broadcast on his official social media channels, during which he stressed the need for Europe to continue assisting Ukraine and strengthen its own defense.

“Our nuclear deterrence protects us, it is complete, sovereign, French from end to end,” Macron said of France’s nuclear arsenal. “This protects us much more than many of our neighbors.”

“Whatever happens, the decision has always remained and will remain in the hands of the president of the Republic, commander of the military,” Macron added.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov accused Macron of posing a direct threat to Russia with his rhetoric.
“If he considers us a threat, he calls a meeting of the chiefs of general staff of European countries and Britain, says that it is necessary to use nuclear weapons, prepares to use nuclear weapons against Russia, this is, of course, a threat,” Lavrov said at a news conference on Thursday.

Macron also warned that Europe was “entering a new era,” and that it would be “folly” to remain a “spectator” to the threat from Russia.

“The United States, our ally, has changed its position on this war, is less supportive of Ukraine and is casting doubt on what will happen next,” Macron said, adding: “I want to believe that the United States will remain by our side, but we need to be ready if that were not the case.”

Although France remains committed to both NATO and its partnership to the US, it needs to “do more” to strengthen its own “independence in matters of defense and security,” Macron said.

He announced he would invite European leaders to a meeting in Paris next week to work on a plan to deliver a “durable peace,” which may include deploying peacekeeping troops to Ukraine “once peace has been signed” to prevent Russia from re-invading.

His comments come after Germany’s likely next chancellor, Friedrich Merz, advocated for talks with France and the United Kingdom - Europe’s two nuclear powers - to extend their nuclear protection.

But the current German chancellor Olaf Scholz urged for a “calm and wise approach,” telling reporters in Brussels on Thursday that Europe should not give up on US involvement in nuclear deterrent support.

“We are joined together with each other in NATO. There are very specific rules on this and what is particularly important is what we have in terms of nuclear sharing, which is organized in Germany. I believe that this should not be given up, that is the common view of all central parties in Germany,” Scholz said.

Macron has nodded to the idea before, telling Portuguese TV station RTP last month: “If my [fellow European leaders] want to proceed towards greater autonomy and a capacity for deterrence, well we must open that discussion.”

And on Monday, he told French newspaper Le Parisien, in comments confirmed to CNN by the Elysee Palace, that “Europeans who wish to deepen dialogue with us [on the question of nuclear deterrence] could … be involved with [the French military’s] deterrence exercises.”

The Wednesday speech came days after Macron met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and British Prime Minister Keir Starmer in a critical summit, following the disastrous show-down between Zelensky and US President Donald Trump in the Oval Office.

A small number of nations are working together on a plan to stop the fighting, which would then be presented to the US, Starmer said. Macron revealed more about the plan in an interview with French newspaper Le Figaro, saying that France and the United Kingdom have proposed a month-long limited ceasefire in Ukraine.
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Ukraine isingetoa zile silaha zake za nyuklia, isingevamiwa na huyu dictator.
 
Kwani walikua wanasaidiwa na USA?
Si tulikua tunaambiwa humu kua Ukraine inapigana peke yake?
Ya kwamba Ukraine ni tafu anamtoa jasho superpower wa mchongo Urusi?

Sasa Kiko wapi?
Hapana bana,Mimi sitaki kabisa kusikia kauli hiyo ya Zelensky kwamba bila USA itakua ni ngumu sana sana sanaaa kupigana na Urusi.
Humu jukwaani Kuna vijimtu vinajifanya vijuaji sana vilikua vinawalisha matango pori Pro UkraiNATO kua Urusi ni dhaifu na inapigana na Ukraine peke yake.
Sasa hebu ona kauli ya Zelensky yaani hawaamini hata wafadhiri wake wa Ulaya ambao kwa pamoja walikua USA,EU na west wengine.
Leo USA kajitoa zelensky hawaamini hata hao waliobaki akina Ulaya.
Tuliwaambia nyinyi Pro UkraiNATO hamkusikia Sasa mpokea misaada mwenyewe kaogopa.

Urusi wanaimba-
"Sitishwi na wowote",
"naulinda wangu moyo"
"Wamebaki viroboti"
Ukraine ni sawa na Uturuki hawaaminiki ndo maana ata EU walikataliwa kuwekwa sababu ya tabia zao mbaya
 
Wametoa silaha nyingi tu
Zenye thamani ya dola billion ngapi?
Kama mnajua North Korea katoa wanajeshi wangapi mnashindwa kujua wametoa msaaada wa dola billion ngapi?

France to consider protecting European allies with its nuclear arsenal, Macron says​

By Joseph Ataman and Jessie Yeung, CNN
Updated 10:02 AM EST, Thu March 6, 2025
2025-03-05t195617z-1483083052-rc277daasvly-rtrmadp-3-ukraine-crisis-france-macron.JPG

France Televisions/Handout/Reuters
French President Emmanuel Macron warned that Europe was “entering a new era,” and that it would be “folly” to remain a “spectator” to the threat from Russia
ParisCNN —

France will consider extending the protection of its nuclear arsenal to its allies, French President Emmanuel Macron said Wednesday, while warning that Europe needs to be ready for the United States to not “remain by our side” in the Ukraine-Russia war.

“I’ve decided to open the strategic debate on the protection by our deterrence of our allies on the European continent,” he said in a live broadcast on his official social media channels, during which he stressed the need for Europe to continue assisting Ukraine and strengthen its own defense.

“Our nuclear deterrence protects us, it is complete, sovereign, French from end to end,” Macron said of France’s nuclear arsenal. “This protects us much more than many of our neighbors.”

“Whatever happens, the decision has always remained and will remain in the hands of the president of the Republic, commander of the military,” Macron added.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov accused Macron of posing a direct threat to Russia with his rhetoric.
“If he considers us a threat, he calls a meeting of the chiefs of general staff of European countries and Britain, says that it is necessary to use nuclear weapons, prepares to use nuclear weapons against Russia, this is, of course, a threat,” Lavrov said at a news conference on Thursday.

Macron also warned that Europe was “entering a new era,” and that it would be “folly” to remain a “spectator” to the threat from Russia.

“The United States, our ally, has changed its position on this war, is less supportive of Ukraine and is casting doubt on what will happen next,” Macron said, adding: “I want to believe that the United States will remain by our side, but we need to be ready if that were not the case.”

Although France remains committed to both NATO and its partnership to the US, it needs to “do more” to strengthen its own “independence in matters of defense and security,” Macron said.

He announced he would invite European leaders to a meeting in Paris next week to work on a plan to deliver a “durable peace,” which may include deploying peacekeeping troops to Ukraine “once peace has been signed” to prevent Russia from re-invading.

His comments come after Germany’s likely next chancellor, Friedrich Merz, advocated for talks with France and the United Kingdom - Europe’s two nuclear powers - to extend their nuclear protection.

But the current German chancellor Olaf Scholz urged for a “calm and wise approach,” telling reporters in Brussels on Thursday that Europe should not give up on US involvement in nuclear deterrent support.

“We are joined together with each other in NATO. There are very specific rules on this and what is particularly important is what we have in terms of nuclear sharing, which is organized in Germany. I believe that this should not be given up, that is the common view of all central parties in Germany,” Scholz said.

Macron has nodded to the idea before, telling Portuguese TV station RTP last month: “If my [fellow European leaders] want to proceed towards greater autonomy and a capacity for deterrence, well we must open that discussion.”

And on Monday, he told French newspaper Le Parisien, in comments confirmed to CNN by the Elysee Palace, that “Europeans who wish to deepen dialogue with us [on the question of nuclear deterrence] could … be involved with [the French military’s] deterrence exercises.”

The Wednesday speech came days after Macron met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and British Prime Minister Keir Starmer in a critical summit, following the disastrous show-down between Zelensky and US President Donald Trump in the Oval Office.

A small number of nations are working together on a plan to stop the fighting, which would then be presented to the US, Starmer said. Macron revealed more about the plan in an interview with French newspaper Le Figaro, saying that France and the United Kingdom have proposed a month-long limited ceasefire in Ukraine.
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Ukraine isingetoa zile silaha zake za nyuklia, isingevamiwa na huyu dictator.
Tatizo proUkraine huwa mnapenda kujizima data. Hili jambo mbona kila siku huwa tunalieleza. Acha nijaribu kukukumbusha, ukikaza fuvu basi nakuacha kama ulivyo
1. Ukraine haijawahi kumiliki silaha za nyuklia bali silaha zilikuwa mali ya USSR
2. Bila Ukraine kukubali kurudisha silaha kwa mwenye nazo basi isingekubaliwa kuwa huru. Ukraine ilikubali kuzitoa hizo silaha siyo kwa kupenda bali kwa kuwa walitaka kuwa huru.
3. Hakuna mwanachama yeyote wa USSR aliyejutenga na urusi ambaye alibaki na silaha
 
Zenye thamani ya dola billion ngapi?
Kama mnajua North Korea katoa wanajeshi wangapi mnashindwa kujua wametoa msaaada wa dola billion ngapi?
Iran Katoa drones nyingi sana kwa Russia....huku North Korea akipeleka askari 11,000 wakapigane na Ukraine

 
Ukraine haijawahi kumiliki silaha za nyuklia bali silaha zilikuwa mali ya USSR
Ukraine ilikuwa sehemu ya USSR, hivyo pia ilikuwa na umiliki wa silaha hizo.

Bila Ukraine kukubali kurudisha silaha kwa mwenye nazo basi isingekubaliwa kuwa huru. Ukraine ilikubali kuzitoa hizo silaha siyo kwa kupenda bali kwa kuwa walitaka kuwa huru.
Hadi Leo inajuta kwa kutoa hizo silaha maana wangebaki nazo ndio wangekuwa huru
 
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